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Nmap too!If I may be excused for pimping my project too, we are seeking summer developers for the Nmap Security Scanner. Last year's program was a lot of fun, and we accomplished some really cool projects. This year we have made a new list of project ideas, including:
- Create a new graphical frontend and powerful results viewer
- Generate graphical maps from the Nmap XML output (you can take inspiration from projects like fe3d and Cheops/Cheops-NG).
- Create a web interface for scanning your networks and reporting the results.
- Become a performance Czar, whipping out your profilers and introducing your own algorithms to make Nmap run even faster while using fewer resources.
- Create a brand new interpretation of the venerable Netcat and Hping utilities.
- Add scripting/module support to Nmap so it can be used for vulnerability assessment or more intrusive application discovery.
I think those are some of the coolest projects, though the page lists others (and is always growing as I get new ideas). And don't forget, you can always propose any new idea you come up with -- don't feel limited to that list.
And while we hope you consider Nmap, remember that you can increase your odds by applying to multiple projects. I've seen some pretty cool ideas from the other organizations.
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Nmap too!If I may be excused for pimping my project too, we are seeking summer developers for the Nmap Security Scanner. Last year's program was a lot of fun, and we accomplished some really cool projects. This year we have made a new list of project ideas, including:
- Create a new graphical frontend and powerful results viewer
- Generate graphical maps from the Nmap XML output (you can take inspiration from projects like fe3d and Cheops/Cheops-NG).
- Create a web interface for scanning your networks and reporting the results.
- Become a performance Czar, whipping out your profilers and introducing your own algorithms to make Nmap run even faster while using fewer resources.
- Create a brand new interpretation of the venerable Netcat and Hping utilities.
- Add scripting/module support to Nmap so it can be used for vulnerability assessment or more intrusive application discovery.
I think those are some of the coolest projects, though the page lists others (and is always growing as I get new ideas). And don't forget, you can always propose any new idea you come up with -- don't feel limited to that list.
And while we hope you consider Nmap, remember that you can increase your odds by applying to multiple projects. I've seen some pretty cool ideas from the other organizations.
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Re:Smithy Code?
Oh, come on, name me one major hollywood movie with more realistic IT in it.
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Traffic Comparable in Some RespectsDigg has an obsession with Alexa stats that has lead many Digg users to install Alexa for the sake of adding to the view count for Digg.
That may be, but the site popularity is comparable in at least some metrics. For example, a Digg link can generate more traffic to target sites than even the notorious Slashdot Effect. For example, the big Nmap 4.00 release was covered by both Slashdot and Digg. According to my referrer logs, Slashdot delivered a respectable 4,934 hits, while Digg brought more than twice as many (11,349). An article in Heise.De generated more traffic than either of them.
Of course there could be other explanations for these results. Maybe it is just more evidence for the sterotype that Sladhot readers don't RTFA. And I realize there are many other variables involved -- but the results surprised me.
-Fyodor (still a loyal
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Traffic Comparable in Some RespectsDigg has an obsession with Alexa stats that has lead many Digg users to install Alexa for the sake of adding to the view count for Digg.
That may be, but the site popularity is comparable in at least some metrics. For example, a Digg link can generate more traffic to target sites than even the notorious Slashdot Effect. For example, the big Nmap 4.00 release was covered by both Slashdot and Digg. According to my referrer logs, Slashdot delivered a respectable 4,934 hits, while Digg brought more than twice as many (11,349). An article in Heise.De generated more traffic than either of them.
Of course there could be other explanations for these results. Maybe it is just more evidence for the sterotype that Sladhot readers don't RTFA. And I realize there are many other variables involved -- but the results surprised me.
-Fyodor (still a loyal
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Nmap project was a great success
What will GOOG do to stop the same outright shambles this time round?
The page you linked to says nothing about outright shambles. He specifically says "I don't want this post to be seen as bashing either SoCcers or mentors". The page offers some excellent comments and suggestions for 2006, and I'm glad to see that Google is listening (Chris responded in the comments). Some of the suggestions are also meant for us mentors. The Nmap project is proud to have been invited to participate in SoC again for 2006, and we are looking forward to it!
You can call it "outright shambles" if you want, but all the emails I have from participants talking about how much they learned and enjoyed the program speak otherwise. And was it valuable to the Nmap project too? Take a look at their efforts and decide for yourself:
- Doug Hoyte nearly tripled the size of the version detection database, and added OS/device type/hostname detection using the version detection DB. He made numerous other improvements as well.
- Zhao Lei added more than 350 OS detection fingerprints to Nmap, bringing the total to 1684. He also helped design a 2nd generation OS detection (stack fingerprinting) system.
- Adriano Monteiro designed and implemented an advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer named UMIT (screenshots).
- Ole Morten Grodaas designed and implemented another advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer (its nice to have choices in open source!) named NmapGUI. Details and download here)
- Chris Gibson has written a sweet little network tool named Ncat, which takes the venerable Netcat in an interesting and extremely useful direction with features such as connection brokering, socks proxying, and much more.
- Paul Tarjan added the runtime interaction feature to Nmap. While Nmap is running, you can now press 'v' to increase verbosity, 'd' to increase the debugging level, 'p' to enable packet tracing, or the capital versions (V,D,P) to do the opposite. Any other key (such as enter) will print out a status message giving the estimated time until scan completion.
They did much more -- these are just some of the highlights. So I, for one, am looking forward to continuing these outright shambles again this year! But at the same time, there is always room for improvements . So I appreciate Gerv's constructive criticism.
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Nmap project was a great success
What will GOOG do to stop the same outright shambles this time round?
The page you linked to says nothing about outright shambles. He specifically says "I don't want this post to be seen as bashing either SoCcers or mentors". The page offers some excellent comments and suggestions for 2006, and I'm glad to see that Google is listening (Chris responded in the comments). Some of the suggestions are also meant for us mentors. The Nmap project is proud to have been invited to participate in SoC again for 2006, and we are looking forward to it!
You can call it "outright shambles" if you want, but all the emails I have from participants talking about how much they learned and enjoyed the program speak otherwise. And was it valuable to the Nmap project too? Take a look at their efforts and decide for yourself:
- Doug Hoyte nearly tripled the size of the version detection database, and added OS/device type/hostname detection using the version detection DB. He made numerous other improvements as well.
- Zhao Lei added more than 350 OS detection fingerprints to Nmap, bringing the total to 1684. He also helped design a 2nd generation OS detection (stack fingerprinting) system.
- Adriano Monteiro designed and implemented an advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer named UMIT (screenshots).
- Ole Morten Grodaas designed and implemented another advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer (its nice to have choices in open source!) named NmapGUI. Details and download here)
- Chris Gibson has written a sweet little network tool named Ncat, which takes the venerable Netcat in an interesting and extremely useful direction with features such as connection brokering, socks proxying, and much more.
- Paul Tarjan added the runtime interaction feature to Nmap. While Nmap is running, you can now press 'v' to increase verbosity, 'd' to increase the debugging level, 'p' to enable packet tracing, or the capital versions (V,D,P) to do the opposite. Any other key (such as enter) will print out a status message giving the estimated time until scan completion.
They did much more -- these are just some of the highlights. So I, for one, am looking forward to continuing these outright shambles again this year! But at the same time, there is always room for improvements . So I appreciate Gerv's constructive criticism.
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Nmap project was a great success
What will GOOG do to stop the same outright shambles this time round?
The page you linked to says nothing about outright shambles. He specifically says "I don't want this post to be seen as bashing either SoCcers or mentors". The page offers some excellent comments and suggestions for 2006, and I'm glad to see that Google is listening (Chris responded in the comments). Some of the suggestions are also meant for us mentors. The Nmap project is proud to have been invited to participate in SoC again for 2006, and we are looking forward to it!
You can call it "outright shambles" if you want, but all the emails I have from participants talking about how much they learned and enjoyed the program speak otherwise. And was it valuable to the Nmap project too? Take a look at their efforts and decide for yourself:
- Doug Hoyte nearly tripled the size of the version detection database, and added OS/device type/hostname detection using the version detection DB. He made numerous other improvements as well.
- Zhao Lei added more than 350 OS detection fingerprints to Nmap, bringing the total to 1684. He also helped design a 2nd generation OS detection (stack fingerprinting) system.
- Adriano Monteiro designed and implemented an advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer named UMIT (screenshots).
- Ole Morten Grodaas designed and implemented another advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer (its nice to have choices in open source!) named NmapGUI. Details and download here)
- Chris Gibson has written a sweet little network tool named Ncat, which takes the venerable Netcat in an interesting and extremely useful direction with features such as connection brokering, socks proxying, and much more.
- Paul Tarjan added the runtime interaction feature to Nmap. While Nmap is running, you can now press 'v' to increase verbosity, 'd' to increase the debugging level, 'p' to enable packet tracing, or the capital versions (V,D,P) to do the opposite. Any other key (such as enter) will print out a status message giving the estimated time until scan completion.
They did much more -- these are just some of the highlights. So I, for one, am looking forward to continuing these outright shambles again this year! But at the same time, there is always room for improvements . So I appreciate Gerv's constructive criticism.
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NMAP that distribution site, bitches
So, when al-Queda distribution centers uses Microsoft
.... come on. Seriously, if the guy was functioning in a "hacker" way ..... hehe... stupid
sudo nmap -sS -oO -P0 www.alaflam.net
Password:
Starting nmap 3.75 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-03-26 20:50 EST
Interesting ports on ip-140-154-146.phx.extremezone.com (64.140.154.146):
(The 1651 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT STATE SERVICE
21/tcp open ftp
25/tcp open smtp
80/tcp open http
135/tcp open msrpc
139/tcp open netbios-ssn
443/tcp open https
445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
1025/tcp open NFS-or-IIS
1026/tcp open LSA-or-nterm
1027/tcp open IIS
3372/tcp open msdtc
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Re:i'm a unix sysadmin, here's my top ten listoops, forgot nmap and poke.
poke is a shell function I wrote, as I needed to test network capability in a place that blocked ICMP traffic. It returns true when it can make a connection, or false otherwise. You may wish to add reporting; just uncomment the second line.
poke() {
Also please note that I purposefully left anything that is in standard installs (yes, Redhat fails to install cvs and vim-enhanced in its "server" config).
echo X |telnet -e X $1 80 >/dev/null 2>&1
#[ $? = 0 ] && echo connected to $1 || echo failed to connect to $1 >&2|false
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Re:Is scanning a network illegal?You can argue me all you want, but just try nmaping fbi.gov and then you can explain it to the FBI and the courts when they knock on your door.
I'm in the UK, they'll need long arms to knock on my door
:)
[root@ArMaDillo]#nmap -P0 -A www.fbi.govStarting nmap 3.50 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-03-02 02:37 GMT
Interesting ports on 194.217.240.73:
(The 1655 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION
22/tcp open ssh Akamai-I SSH (protocol 1.99)
80/tcp open http AkamaiGHost (Akamai's HTTP Acceleration/Mirror service)
443/tcp open ssl/http AkamaiGHost (Akamai's HTTP Acceleration/Mirror service)
500/tcp open isakmp?
Device type: general purpose
Running: Linux 2.4.X|2.5.X|2.6.X
OS details: Linux Kernel 2.4.18 - 2.5.70 (X86), Linux 2.4.20 (Itanium), Linux Kernel 2.4.3 SMP (RedHat), Linux 2.6.0-test5 - 2.6.0 (X86)
Uptime 24.941 days (since Sun Feb 5 04:04:03 2006)Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 78.020 seconds
Buggers must get DDoS'ed quite a bit, they're using Akamai's caching network. Nice the see the feds supporting Linux
:)The point remains though, that I've still done nothing illegal, either here or there. If I so choose, I can do an nmap run on mod.gov.uk (the Ministry of Defence), mi5.gov.uk (the Security Service) or sis.gov.uk (the Secret Intelligence Service). There can be no crime in requesting standards-compliant information from a public-facing machine. Sensitive information will not be on those machines and should not even be accessible from them.
The really important stuff shouldn't even be on a networked computer.PS - www.sis.gov.uk is running Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer on Linux and doesn't seem to care who knows it
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Re:No signed source code?Would be nice if he signed the tarball with a pgp key.
He did. See Verifying the integrity of Nmap downloads.
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Comparison to NessusMy favorite part of the release announcement actually relates to Nessus:
A popular open source security scanner recently went proprietary, complaining that their community never contributes much. We are sorry to hear that, but happy to report that the Nmap community is as vibrant and productive as ever! We would like to acknowledge and thank the many people who contributed ideas and/or code to this release (since 3.50). Special thanks go out to Adam Kerrison, Adam Morgan, Adriano Monteiro Marques, Alan Bishoff [ huge list goes on and on
... ]So if Nessus can't get enough help, maybe that says more about how they run the project than their suggestion of an open source community of leeches who don't contribute back.
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Re:I can speak to this
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Article Summary is WrongRoland's article summary is wrong. He says that the algorithm "promises to reduce energy consumption -- and electricity bills -- by as much as 30 percent", but the article states that "When the thermostat settings are adjusted in an optimal fashion, the result is a 25 percent to 30 percent reduction in peak electrical demand for air conditioning.". So extra cooling before peak hours certainly reduces your peak AC usage, but you won't reduce your total electrical consumption much. Unless your utility charges you less for non-peak usage (some do), then the article states that you may get "about $50 in annual savings per 1,000 square feet of building space". In other words, your total electrical usage stays basically the same.
-Fyodor
Version 3.95 of the Free Nmap Security Scanner is now available. -
Article Summary is WrongRoland's article summary is wrong. He says that the algorithm "promises to reduce energy consumption -- and electricity bills -- by as much as 30 percent", but the article states that "When the thermostat settings are adjusted in an optimal fashion, the result is a 25 percent to 30 percent reduction in peak electrical demand for air conditioning.". So extra cooling before peak hours certainly reduces your peak AC usage, but you won't reduce your total electrical consumption much. Unless your utility charges you less for non-peak usage (some do), then the article states that you may get "about $50 in annual savings per 1,000 square feet of building space". In other words, your total electrical usage stays basically the same.
-Fyodor
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Re:Does anyone know...
This looks like it isn't v accurate but
fortress:/home/oztiks# nmap -O -P0 -p 25-26 mail.hotmail.com
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-01-14 02:42 EST
Warning: OS detection will be MUCH less reliable because we did not find at lea st 1 open and 1 closed TCP port
Interesting ports on mail.hotmail.com (65.54.244.40):
PORT STATE SERVICE
25/tcp open smtp
26/tcp filtered unknown
Device type: general purpose
Running (JUST GUESSING) : Cray UNICOS 8.X (91%)
Aggressive OS guesses: Cray UNICOS/mk 8.6 (91%)
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Strictly software...Watch out, since this is heavily sysadmin biased...
- Slackware Linux. Still the best after all this time.
- OpenBSD. Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out there trying to get you.
- OpenSSH. Because you just can't use plain text telnet anymore.
- Rsync. Just because.
- GNU Screen. Triple your terminal productivity. Now with minty-fresh taste!
- GNU Wget. Because you have better thing to do than watch over a download.
- Vim.Because Emacs is for losers.
- Nmap. Look at 'OpenBSD' above.
- IPTables. Lock that machine down, admin boy.
- pf. I said, lock that machine down , admin boy!
Of course, number 11 is Google, Google, and Google. But that's neither software nor open-source. -
Re:must be more zero tolerance
Starting nmap 3.83.DC13 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-01-07 00:06 EST
Interesting ports on 66.144.97.98:
(The 1665 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
PORT STATE SERVICE
80/tcp closed http
110/tcp open pop3
Interesting. Look like they just shut down HTTP.
Guess they are waiting for this to blow over.
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Re:Alright, Names Do Matter
'Go to the menu, select "Multimedia" then "Movie Player"'
More like "$ vlc". Like it or not, the command line is the most important part of taking full advantage of using a Unix-like operating system. It's the coolest of all features; for example, day to day file operations doesn't take half the time you'd need for drag'n'drop. And besides, it's intelligent. -
Failed my check
$ nmap windows2k
Starting Nmap 3.95 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on windows2k:
(The 1662 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
135/tcp open msrpc
139/tcp open netbios-ssn
445/tcp open microsoft-ds
Since actually using windows requires this kind of setup, and closing these ports usually breaks things like outlook and filesharing, I'd say in such cases, windows is still a security failure. At least until the netbios protocol stack gets fixed or removed which seems unlikely.
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airforce and cyberspace?
mig@rub:~$ nmap f16-1024.airforce.gov
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-12-09 14:59 CET
Interesting ports on f16-1024.airforce.gov (12.34.56.78):
(The 1649 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT STATE SERVICE
25/tcp open bombs
53/tcp open nailgun
80/tcp open mavericks
139/tcp open nukes
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.293 seconds
mig@rub:~$
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Re:GPL resistance?
Fyodor (author of NMAP) posted about Nessus going closed source in the nmap-hackers mailing list some weeks ago. It seems that Teenable's main point is not GPL-resistance from the enterprise customers, but rather the fact that there has been almost zero code contributed to Nessus, and that by providing its source, they were helping a lot of companies that could be classified as their competitors. I, for one, can see their point, even if I am a strong advocate of free software (free as in FSF, not OSF).
However, as has already been stated, that does not mean this is the end of free Nessus -- it will still be free, except we no longer will be able to look under the hood. Since many of us automate Nessus directly through the command line client and parsing of NBE files, I believe that this will impact very little even power users.
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nmap results
192.50.74.27
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:49 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 192.50.74.27 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 38.322 seconds
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195.200.183.229
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:51 PST
Interesting ports on 195.200.183.229:
(The 1661 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
80/tcp open http
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 62.432 seconds
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200.218.224.224
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:53 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 200.218.224.224 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 39.839 seconds
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202.123.223.148
I killed the process after 2 minutes.
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210.109.194.231
I killed this one too.
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211.155.246.38
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 10:01 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 211.155.246.38 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 38.386 seconds
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Okay, I'm stopping there. I was under the impression that I'd be seeing some open ports. I can only verify port 80 on ONE of those so far.
How OLD are those entries? Why does it appear that the problem, if it ever existed on those machines, has been cleared already? -
nmap results
192.50.74.27
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:49 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 192.50.74.27 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 38.322 seconds
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195.200.183.229
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:51 PST
Interesting ports on 195.200.183.229:
(The 1661 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
80/tcp open http
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 62.432 seconds
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200.218.224.224
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:53 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 200.218.224.224 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 39.839 seconds
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202.123.223.148
I killed the process after 2 minutes.
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210.109.194.231
I killed this one too.
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211.155.246.38
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 10:01 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 211.155.246.38 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 38.386 seconds
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Okay, I'm stopping there. I was under the impression that I'd be seeing some open ports. I can only verify port 80 on ONE of those so far.
How OLD are those entries? Why does it appear that the problem, if it ever existed on those machines, has been cleared already? -
nmap results
192.50.74.27
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:49 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 192.50.74.27 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 38.322 seconds
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195.200.183.229
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:51 PST
Interesting ports on 195.200.183.229:
(The 1661 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
80/tcp open http
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 62.432 seconds
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200.218.224.224
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:53 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 200.218.224.224 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 39.839 seconds
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202.123.223.148
I killed the process after 2 minutes.
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210.109.194.231
I killed this one too.
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211.155.246.38
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 10:01 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 211.155.246.38 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 38.386 seconds
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Okay, I'm stopping there. I was under the impression that I'd be seeing some open ports. I can only verify port 80 on ONE of those so far.
How OLD are those entries? Why does it appear that the problem, if it ever existed on those machines, has been cleared already? -
nmap results
192.50.74.27
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:49 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 192.50.74.27 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 38.322 seconds
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195.200.183.229
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:51 PST
Interesting ports on 195.200.183.229:
(The 1661 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
80/tcp open http
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 62.432 seconds
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200.218.224.224
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 09:53 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 200.218.224.224 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 39.839 seconds
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202.123.223.148
I killed the process after 2 minutes.
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210.109.194.231
I killed this one too.
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211.155.246.38
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-11-08 10:01 PST
All 1663 scanned ports on 211.155.246.38 are: filtered
Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 38.386 seconds
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Okay, I'm stopping there. I was under the impression that I'd be seeing some open ports. I can only verify port 80 on ONE of those so far.
How OLD are those entries? Why does it appear that the problem, if it ever existed on those machines, has been cleared already? -
Three considerations
#1. Sites vs servers.
Netcraft states they count the sites while they don't mention whether they count 2nd level domains (foo.com), 3rd level domains (www.foo.com, support.foo.com) or what else. They just say they "received responses from 74,409,971 sites" while not defining what a site actually is.
#2. Growth.
There has been a growth of about 3.73% in the number of (so called) web sites. There must be some hidden winner(s). That is, there must be some group of web servers that is getting the great part of the growth all at once! Netcraft is failing to mention who they are!
#3. Webserver (or website) identification.
It's all but trivial to identify web servers. Are they using some special tool like amap and nmap or just looking at the server response content? How accurate this identification can be? -
Open source network analysis tools
What tools and methods are the best practice when trying to use Linux and Open Source to analyze and fix a network?
These are some of the tools to consider, in no particular order:
- Nagios
- Snort
- ethereal
- dsniff (not updated in ages)
- ncat
- nmap
- nessus v 2 (or one of the forks of version 3)
- SARA
You'll have to read the descriptions to decide which ones to try. -
top 75 list
More tools than you could learn in a reasonable timeframe can be found here: http://www.insecure.org/tools.html
I would have posted sooner, but T-Mobile's data coverage has been spotty since Wilma hit. Still no power or fuel, but at least I can can get my geek-fix now. :) (at least until my battery dies) -
Advance Chapter: Nmap Reference Guide
The Nmap Network Scanning book isn't yet complete, but I have decided to release one of the most important chapters in advance online. That is this Nmap Reference Guide, which will become the new man page. It is rewritten from scratch to be much more comprehensive and detailed than the previous version, and better organized as well. It can be read top to bottom or used as a quick reference to look up that obscure scan type you are considering. Let me know if you have any suggestions for improving it. I'm also looking for translators (the previous man page is available in nine languages. If you are interested, send me mail with your target language. That way I can send you the source file (DocBook XML) to translate rather than the HTML/Nroff which is auto-generated. That will also prevent the case of several people duplicating effort by translating to the same language. I was planning to announce this tomorrow, but since the book seems to be mentioned at the top of Slashdot right now anyway, I just scrambled to put it up.
And now for the goods. Here is the HTML Nmap Reference Guide. Or you can download the Nroff (man page) form here. Enjoy!
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Advance Chapter: Nmap Reference Guide
The Nmap Network Scanning book isn't yet complete, but I have decided to release one of the most important chapters in advance online. That is this Nmap Reference Guide, which will become the new man page. It is rewritten from scratch to be much more comprehensive and detailed than the previous version, and better organized as well. It can be read top to bottom or used as a quick reference to look up that obscure scan type you are considering. Let me know if you have any suggestions for improving it. I'm also looking for translators (the previous man page is available in nine languages. If you are interested, send me mail with your target language. That way I can send you the source file (DocBook XML) to translate rather than the HTML/Nroff which is auto-generated. That will also prevent the case of several people duplicating effort by translating to the same language. I was planning to announce this tomorrow, but since the book seems to be mentioned at the top of Slashdot right now anyway, I just scrambled to put it up.
And now for the goods. Here is the HTML Nmap Reference Guide. Or you can download the Nroff (man page) form here. Enjoy!
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Advance Chapter: Nmap Reference Guide
The Nmap Network Scanning book isn't yet complete, but I have decided to release one of the most important chapters in advance online. That is this Nmap Reference Guide, which will become the new man page. It is rewritten from scratch to be much more comprehensive and detailed than the previous version, and better organized as well. It can be read top to bottom or used as a quick reference to look up that obscure scan type you are considering. Let me know if you have any suggestions for improving it. I'm also looking for translators (the previous man page is available in nine languages. If you are interested, send me mail with your target language. That way I can send you the source file (DocBook XML) to translate rather than the HTML/Nroff which is auto-generated. That will also prevent the case of several people duplicating effort by translating to the same language. I was planning to announce this tomorrow, but since the book seems to be mentioned at the top of Slashdot right now anyway, I just scrambled to put it up.
And now for the goods. Here is the HTML Nmap Reference Guide. Or you can download the Nroff (man page) form here. Enjoy!
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Advance Chapter: Nmap Reference Guide
The Nmap Network Scanning book isn't yet complete, but I have decided to release one of the most important chapters in advance online. That is this Nmap Reference Guide, which will become the new man page. It is rewritten from scratch to be much more comprehensive and detailed than the previous version, and better organized as well. It can be read top to bottom or used as a quick reference to look up that obscure scan type you are considering. Let me know if you have any suggestions for improving it. I'm also looking for translators (the previous man page is available in nine languages. If you are interested, send me mail with your target language. That way I can send you the source file (DocBook XML) to translate rather than the HTML/Nroff which is auto-generated. That will also prevent the case of several people duplicating effort by translating to the same language. I was planning to announce this tomorrow, but since the book seems to be mentioned at the top of Slashdot right now anyway, I just scrambled to put it up.
And now for the goods. Here is the HTML Nmap Reference Guide. Or you can download the Nroff (man page) form here. Enjoy!
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Advance Chapter: Nmap Reference Guide
The Nmap Network Scanning book isn't yet complete, but I have decided to release one of the most important chapters in advance online. That is this Nmap Reference Guide, which will become the new man page. It is rewritten from scratch to be much more comprehensive and detailed than the previous version, and better organized as well. It can be read top to bottom or used as a quick reference to look up that obscure scan type you are considering. Let me know if you have any suggestions for improving it. I'm also looking for translators (the previous man page is available in nine languages. If you are interested, send me mail with your target language. That way I can send you the source file (DocBook XML) to translate rather than the HTML/Nroff which is auto-generated. That will also prevent the case of several people duplicating effort by translating to the same language. I was planning to announce this tomorrow, but since the book seems to be mentioned at the top of Slashdot right now anyway, I just scrambled to put it up.
And now for the goods. Here is the HTML Nmap Reference Guide. Or you can download the Nroff (man page) form here. Enjoy!
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Advance Chapter: Nmap Reference Guide
The Nmap Network Scanning book isn't yet complete, but I have decided to release one of the most important chapters in advance online. That is this Nmap Reference Guide, which will become the new man page. It is rewritten from scratch to be much more comprehensive and detailed than the previous version, and better organized as well. It can be read top to bottom or used as a quick reference to look up that obscure scan type you are considering. Let me know if you have any suggestions for improving it. I'm also looking for translators (the previous man page is available in nine languages. If you are interested, send me mail with your target language. That way I can send you the source file (DocBook XML) to translate rather than the HTML/Nroff which is auto-generated. That will also prevent the case of several people duplicating effort by translating to the same language. I was planning to announce this tomorrow, but since the book seems to be mentioned at the top of Slashdot right now anyway, I just scrambled to put it up.
And now for the goods. Here is the HTML Nmap Reference Guide. Or you can download the Nroff (man page) form here. Enjoy!
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Obligatory
I was going to ask what he thought of nmap porn, but then I realized the link I was using was from nmap's own site! Apparently they condone this sort of thing.
Come on, Fydor, admit it. Like most of us, you don't really care about coding, you just do it to get girls. -
How Secure is MI6 Site?
Running nmap I detected that the Site might be running on an Microsoft Xbox running Debian Linux 2.4.20 (90%), here is the complet result, and *yes* they have only port 80/tcp open, just in case -:) Starting nmap 3.70 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-10-16 21:34 CDT Warning: OS detection will be MUCH less reliable because we did not find at least 1 open and 1 closed TCP port Interesting ports on www.mi6.gov.uk (194.61.189.14): (The 1659 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) PORT STATE SERVICE 80/tcp open http Device type: general purpose|broadband router|router Running (JUST GUESSING) : Linux 2.4.X|2.6.X|2.5.X (95%), Siemens embedded (90%), Conexant embedded (89%), Draytek embedded (89%), FreeSCO Linux 2.0.X (89%) Aggressive OS guesses: Linux 2.4.16 - 2.4.18 (95%), Linux 2.4.18 - 2.4.20 (x86) (95%), Linux 2.6.0-test5 x86 (95%), Siemens Speedstream 2602 DSL/Cable router (90%), Microsoft Xbox running Debian Linux 2.4.20 (90%), Conexant ADSL Router (89%), Draytek Vigor 2200e DSL router v2.1b (89%), FreeSCO 0.27 (Linux 2.0.38) (89%), Linux 2.2.16 (89%), Linux 2.4.18 (x86) (89%) No exact OS matches for host (test conditions non-ideal). Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 68.875 seconds
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Re:Maybe we can see...How well an OSS product fares as a closed source product. Bets are on: better or worse a year from now?
It will be interesting to see what happens with it. I'm betting that someone picks up the GPL code and forks the project. Where will they be when that happens?
This was voted the number one security tool on insecure.org. I would almost count on seeing it fork...
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Re:Maybe we can see...How well an OSS product fares as a closed source product. Bets are on: better or worse a year from now?
It will be interesting to see what happens with it. I'm betting that someone picks up the GPL code and forks the project. Where will they be when that happens?
This was voted the number one security tool on insecure.org. I would almost count on seeing it fork...
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Moral of this Story and Nmap Response
I responded for the Nmap Security Scanner project yesterday. We aren't planning to follow suit. Nmap has been GPL since its release more than 8 years ago and I am happy with that license.
I agree that this is not a good trend, and the question is how to reverse it. It is important to note a key reason Renaud gave: the lack of community involvement. It is easy to take the open source tools we depend on for granted, and forget that open source is a two way street. The bazaar model doesn't work so well with everyone taking and not contributing back. In the Nessus response, I suggest a few ways that programmers and non-programmers can support projects they use and enjoy. Rather than mope over the loss of open source Nessus, we can treat this as a call to action and a reminder not to take valuable open source software such as Ethereal, DSniff, Ettercap, gcc, emacs, apache, OpenBSD, and Linux for granted.
Meanwhile, I know at least one group of experienced open source programmers that is preparing to announce a new open source vulnerability scanner project or Nessus fork. It would be encouraging for such a fork to succeed.
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Moral of this Story and Nmap Response
I responded for the Nmap Security Scanner project yesterday. We aren't planning to follow suit. Nmap has been GPL since its release more than 8 years ago and I am happy with that license.
I agree that this is not a good trend, and the question is how to reverse it. It is important to note a key reason Renaud gave: the lack of community involvement. It is easy to take the open source tools we depend on for granted, and forget that open source is a two way street. The bazaar model doesn't work so well with everyone taking and not contributing back. In the Nessus response, I suggest a few ways that programmers and non-programmers can support projects they use and enjoy. Rather than mope over the loss of open source Nessus, we can treat this as a call to action and a reminder not to take valuable open source software such as Ethereal, DSniff, Ettercap, gcc, emacs, apache, OpenBSD, and Linux for granted.
Meanwhile, I know at least one group of experienced open source programmers that is preparing to announce a new open source vulnerability scanner project or Nessus fork. It would be encouraging for such a fork to succeed.
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What a waste of time
TTL based routing analysis (traceroute), whois retrieval and plain DNS lookups, is that all? And not even a rundown of the nmap commandline, just nslookup(.exe) and tracert(.exe).
Where is all the other TTL based stuff like, oh I don`t know figuring out what packet filters ("firewalls" for the mysticism fans) are dropping along the way? What about OS fingerprinting, simple googleing, what about DNS zone transfers, how about looking for published traffic graphs? How about simply connecting and letting something (mail, or webserver) give you its information?
kids these days can`t stalk a mainframe walking down a shopping mall.
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Nmap Project Resultssuch a great idea but no content on their site re: the actual work. They should have paid someone $4500 to maintain their summer of code page!
Yeah, for a $2 million dollar project it was ridiculously understaffed on the Google side. But Googlers like Chris DiBona and Greg Stein worked extraordinarily hard to keep things flowing relatively smoothly. So it still turned out to be a huge success for Nmap and most/all of the other participating projects. Thanks, Chris and Greg!
So what did we (Nmap project) accomplish in those two months? The sponsored students and their credentials/projects are listed here. Much of their work can be found in Nmap 3.90, which was released on Thursday. SoC changes include:
- Doug Hoyte nearly tripled the size of the version detection database, added OS/device type/hostname detection using the version detection DB. He made numerous other improvements as well.
- Zhao Lei added more than 350 OS detection fingerprints to Nmap, bringing the total to 1684. He also helped design a 2nd generation OS detection (stack fingerprinting) system.
- Adriano Monteiro designed and implemented an advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer named http://sourceforge.net/projects/umit">UMIT (screenshots).
- Ole Morten Grodaas designed and implemented another advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer (its nice to have choices in open source!) named NmapGUI. Details and download here)
- Chris Gibson has written a sweet little network tool named Ncat, which takes the venerable Netcat in an interesting and extremely useful direction with features such as connection brokering, socks proxying, and much more.
It has been a crazy two months, but I'm very pleased to see so much accomplished! If you're using an older version of Nmap, you really should consider upgrading to 3.90 to see the difference.
Cheers,
Fyodor
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Nmap Project Resultssuch a great idea but no content on their site re: the actual work. They should have paid someone $4500 to maintain their summer of code page!
Yeah, for a $2 million dollar project it was ridiculously understaffed on the Google side. But Googlers like Chris DiBona and Greg Stein worked extraordinarily hard to keep things flowing relatively smoothly. So it still turned out to be a huge success for Nmap and most/all of the other participating projects. Thanks, Chris and Greg!
So what did we (Nmap project) accomplish in those two months? The sponsored students and their credentials/projects are listed here. Much of their work can be found in Nmap 3.90, which was released on Thursday. SoC changes include:
- Doug Hoyte nearly tripled the size of the version detection database, added OS/device type/hostname detection using the version detection DB. He made numerous other improvements as well.
- Zhao Lei added more than 350 OS detection fingerprints to Nmap, bringing the total to 1684. He also helped design a 2nd generation OS detection (stack fingerprinting) system.
- Adriano Monteiro designed and implemented an advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer named http://sourceforge.net/projects/umit">UMIT (screenshots).
- Ole Morten Grodaas designed and implemented another advanced Nmap GUI and results viewer (its nice to have choices in open source!) named NmapGUI. Details and download here)
- Chris Gibson has written a sweet little network tool named Ncat, which takes the venerable Netcat in an interesting and extremely useful direction with features such as connection brokering, socks proxying, and much more.
It has been a crazy two months, but I'm very pleased to see so much accomplished! If you're using an older version of Nmap, you really should consider upgrading to 3.90 to see the difference.
Cheers,
Fyodor
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Re:Tripwire?No, tripwire was commercially developed, and though it was licensed for free academic use (including source) commercial users were expected to pay for it for a number of years now.
I just checked their website and didn't even see the ASR (Academic Source Release) Tripwire version on the website, so it may be gone entirely now. I am sure you can find it out there on the net, but it's not licensed for free commercial usage.
AIDE was developed to get around that, some years ago.
For a good reference list:
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Nmap?
Too bad they don't have Nmap support. Ha!
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Don't forget the other projects
Google did bring in some $90000 worth of support through their Summer of Code project.
Not to mention the remaining 1.91M they spent on other projects. FreeBSD just one of about 40 projects mentoring 400 students. The Nmap Security Scanner project is mentoring 10 of them, who have already produced great work! A list of their credentials and projects is available here. I'll give an update on their progress at my Defcon Presentation this Friday at 10AM.
Meanwhile, many of the other SoC mentors have posted details on the projects being worked on. For example,
Cheers,
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Don't forget the other projects
Google did bring in some $90000 worth of support through their Summer of Code project.
Not to mention the remaining 1.91M they spent on other projects. FreeBSD just one of about 40 projects mentoring 400 students. The Nmap Security Scanner project is mentoring 10 of them, who have already produced great work! A list of their credentials and projects is available here. I'll give an update on their progress at my Defcon Presentation this Friday at 10AM.
Meanwhile, many of the other SoC mentors have posted details on the projects being worked on. For example,
Cheers,
Fyodor @ Insecure.Org -
Nagios, Mon. et al.
You need to develop a strategy that includes network monitoring, penetration testing, and watching the security lists or sites.
For a network monitor, Nagios (http://www.nagios.org/ is popular, but I like Mon (http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/admin/mon), because of its simplicity.
Once you start watching, you realize that you get attacked so much that you quickly scale back the sensitivity. In the end, the monitor becomes a forensics tool, or a way of verifying that it's not an attack that's causing whatever problem you're having.
Acquire skill with Nmap (http://insecure.org./ Learn how to know what the bad guys know about you. Google yourself and your network, to see what dangerous information is out there about you and your network. Try to render that information obsolete.
Read up at http://sans.org/ or maybe a CERT advisory list.
You can spend minimal time on any of this or all of your waking hours.
But it's great getting paged that a server is offline before anyone else (like the client) knows about it.