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  1. Agreement from Alan Cox by The+Pim · · Score: 4 · on Is Netscape's Code Falling Apart At The Seams?
    Alan Cox noted this aptly a few months ago:

    The evidence from the MS world is that buffer overflows are the _least_ of your worries in a component based environment. Complete inability to build a coherent security model combined with people who wave their arms around when asked hard questions about it are most of the problem.

    Nobody in the windows world is much into buffer overflows right now, you dont need them to tear apart a windows system. There's a lesson there for gnome.

    http://www.uwsg.iu.e du/hypermail/linux/kernel/0007.3/1305.html

  2. Re:Now, where does 2.2.18-pre stand ? by Rhys+Dyfrgi · · Score: 2 · on Linux 2.2.17 Released
    Yes, it is, according to Alan Cox's release notes.

    First line, "Ok Linux 2.2.17 official is now out. This is the same as 2.2.17pre20 without the -pre20 id string"
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  3. What's in it: Alan's release notes by Booker · · Score: 5 · on Linux 2.2.17 Released
    Here is Alan's official release notes for this kernel. "Holy Penguin Pee" among other things. :)

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  4. no, Linux does not have zero-copy sockets by cpeterso · · Score: 4 · on 986MB/s With BSD And Gigabit Ethernet

    From the linux-kernel list:

    David Miller: "make no mistake, for transmit we will at some point have a zero copy scheme available. And you can be certain that when it does happen, the end to end latency will not suffer like it does on other systems for the cases where zero copy makes no sense at all."

    Linus Torvalds: "So don't fall into the trap of thinking that zero-copy is always obviously a win. It isn't."

    Ingo Molnar: "zero-copy makes a RL difference only in a small part of those uses. I very much dislike zero-copy-maniac designs which give up just about everything to get nice bandwith numbers."


  5. no, Linux does not have zero-copy sockets by cpeterso · · Score: 4 · on 986MB/s With BSD And Gigabit Ethernet

    From the linux-kernel list:

    David Miller: "make no mistake, for transmit we will at some point have a zero copy scheme available. And you can be certain that when it does happen, the end to end latency will not suffer like it does on other systems for the cases where zero copy makes no sense at all."

    Linus Torvalds: "So don't fall into the trap of thinking that zero-copy is always obviously a win. It isn't."

    Ingo Molnar: "zero-copy makes a RL difference only in a small part of those uses. I very much dislike zero-copy-maniac designs which give up just about everything to get nice bandwith numbers."


  6. no, Linux does not have zero-copy sockets by cpeterso · · Score: 4 · on 986MB/s With BSD And Gigabit Ethernet

    From the linux-kernel list:

    David Miller: "make no mistake, for transmit we will at some point have a zero copy scheme available. And you can be certain that when it does happen, the end to end latency will not suffer like it does on other systems for the cases where zero copy makes no sense at all."

    Linus Torvalds: "So don't fall into the trap of thinking that zero-copy is always obviously a win. It isn't."

    Ingo Molnar: "zero-copy makes a RL difference only in a small part of those uses. I very much dislike zero-copy-maniac designs which give up just about everything to get nice bandwith numbers."


  7. Nice to See by rockwall · · Score: 4 · on The History of UNIX

    Hey, as far as I'm concerned, anything that reminds us of our roots -- computing or otherwise -- is great. An "easy-to-use" OS is a fine solution to a real-world problem, but imagine the ideal: everyone is able to use a real OS because everyone has a grounding in computers and how they work. At the very least, entertaining and interesting histories such as this are a step in the right direction.

    Here are a couple other histories of Unix; check 'em out. Learn something. Return to your roots.

    http://crackmonkey.org/unix.html
    http://www.uwsg.iu.ed u/usail/external/recommended/unixhx.html
    http://www.hsrl.rutgers.edu/ug/uni x_history.html

    A quick final note, but if there's one thing I love about Unix histories, it's the explanation factor. I mean, every time I run across something completely inexplicable (to me, anyway) it's always nice to eventually discovered exactly why its implementation was so inscrutable. At least there was a method to the madness. Usually. :)

    yours,
    john

  8. Greased Weasel by artdodge · · Score: 2 · on Linux 2.4.0 Test2 Almost Ready for Prime Time
    This reminds me of the the now famous 1.3.51 and 2.1.129 kernel announcements, aka the "Greased Weasel" releases.

    Not to be confused with 2.2.2pre4, the "Almost-valentines day", aka "horny greased weasel", aka "Presidents Day" release.

  9. OpenBIOS is the new name of GNU BIOS by QBasic_Dude · · Score: 1 · on Linux BIOS

    From the Linux-Kernel Archive:

    OpenBIOS Mailing List (was: GNU-BIOS mailing list)

    Dave Cinege (dcinege@psychosis.com)
    Tue, 17 Feb 1998 02:37:59 -0500

    I changed the name simply because I like this better (and GNU doesn't really fit in the context of a BIOS, don't ya think??)

    SOOOOO if you are one of the late comers trying to get on the GNU-BIOS list, and it is bouncing, this is why. To subscribe send mail to: openbios-request@linkscape.net
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    To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu

  10. Re:I hate to say it... by eMBee · · Score: 3 · on Alpha Release Of Red Hat's Itanium Distro
    some links:
    linuxdev.net about the ottawa linux symposium mentioning linux on merced
    a comment on the linux kernel list regarding SCO Unix running on IA-64 as early as 1997
    and of course you should check out the Linux on IA-64 project homepage.

    greetings, eMBee.
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  11. Doesn't look like it (for USB anyway) by nicktamm · · Score: 2 · on Logitech QuickCam USB Support For Linux?

    According to this post on the linux-kernel mailing list, Logitech doesn't want to release the information necessary to make a driver. But, there is hope, since Logitech has been known to do the right thing before.

  12. CAVE at Indiana U. by Skwirl · · Score: 1 · on U.S. Army Developing Prototype Holodeck

    There's been another CAVE in the computer sci. dept at Indiana University--Bloomington for several years now. Here's their homepage: http://avl.iu.edu/index.html You can even take tours. woohoo!

  13. Open source: We love it. by Q*bert · · Score: 1 · on Ask Slashdot: Does your Employer have an OSS Policy?
    I work for Indiana University's Unix Workstation Support Group. As you can imagine, we use a lot of open-source software. There's no official policy about it, but the unwritten practice is to use it whenever possible. We compile OSS packages for all the operating systems we support and distribute them on our FTP site. Also, we support Linux. (In fact, I'm the lucky Linux support specialist. ;) ) Ah yes, and many of our campuswide production servers run Linux. ;)

    In October, I'm going to work for Vovida, which not only uses open-source software but makes it, exclusively. If you're interested in Linux telephony, you should check them out.

    Beer recipe: free! #Source
    Cold pints: $2 #Product

  14. Digital Capture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Transcript of CNN Linux bit
    I'm not interested in the video, but I would really like a sound clip of Linus saying, "Because their operating systems really suck."

    Is there anyone who can produce such a gem? Reply by mail if you like!

    Many thanks,
    Quinn Weaver http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/Quinn

  15. Digital Capture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Transcript of CNN Linux bit
    I'm not interested in the video, but I would really like a sound clip of Linus saying, "Because their operating systems really suck."

    Is there anyone who can produce such a gem? Reply by mail if you like!

    Many thanks,
    Quinn Weaver http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/Quinn

  16. If you're going to San Jose, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Several LinuxWorld Expo Notes
    Be sure to wear a penguin in your hair,
    And if you're going to San Jose,
    Spring '99 will be a teach-in there! ;)

    I live in Indiana, so I can't help out with the big stuff, but I will be bringing at least a fifth of tequila. I presume you don't need a liquor license to just give it away. ;)

    Rock on, Rob! I'll see you in San Jose.
    Quinn Weaver http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/Quinn

  17. If you're going to San Jose, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Several LinuxWorld Expo Notes
    Be sure to wear a penguin in your hair,
    And if you're going to San Jose,
    Spring '99 will be a teach-in there! ;)

    I live in Indiana, so I can't help out with the big stuff, but I will be bringing at least a fifth of tequila. I presume you don't need a liquor license to just give it away. ;)

    Rock on, Rob! I'll see you in San Jose.
    Quinn Weaver http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/Quinn

  18. Less dependence on Microsoft? Hmmmnn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on European OSS Advantage?
    I really, really disagree with that part. In my experience (I lived in Spain for a year and visited some hackers in the Netherlands), European users, and developers are much more dependent on Microsoft. Understandably, Unix is just too hard for them to learn because of its English-centric nature. Note that this is less true in the countries of Northern Europe, where English is understood well by many. Nonetheless, I found that Linux is very little known in Europe in general; many people I met expressed frank disbelief that I could run it on my laptop or--gasp!-- get paid to support it full-time. They thought it was just an academic OS used for classroom-teaching purposes. As to open source . . . damn. Most simply didn't care about it. Yes, Europe is more socialistic than America, but it's also--and by the same token-- less fiercely devoted to the idea of individual liberty. Most people I met, including erudite developers and system administrators, said, "If it works and MS will do the work of maintaining it, why should I care if I have the source code?" Keep in mind that Europeans have been having American products shoved down their throats since before World War II. Maybe they're used to it.

    Those of you who are from Europe--especially Spain!-- I'd like to hear what you think about all this. Once again, I realize that the situation in Northern Europe is a lot better than that in the Mediterranean and Eastern parts of the continent. Let's face it, Northern Europe is far more progressive and outward-looking than the rest of the continent, and often more so than America! However, I stand by my assertions when it comes to the rest. This is a really interesting issue. If someone has matices (nuances) to add or contradictions to register, please post!

    Quinn Weaver http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/Quinn

  19. Less dependence on Microsoft? Hmmmnn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on European OSS Advantage?
    I really, really disagree with that part. In my experience (I lived in Spain for a year and visited some hackers in the Netherlands), European users, and developers are much more dependent on Microsoft. Understandably, Unix is just too hard for them to learn because of its English-centric nature. Note that this is less true in the countries of Northern Europe, where English is understood well by many. Nonetheless, I found that Linux is very little known in Europe in general; many people I met expressed frank disbelief that I could run it on my laptop or--gasp!-- get paid to support it full-time. They thought it was just an academic OS used for classroom-teaching purposes. As to open source . . . damn. Most simply didn't care about it. Yes, Europe is more socialistic than America, but it's also--and by the same token-- less fiercely devoted to the idea of individual liberty. Most people I met, including erudite developers and system administrators, said, "If it works and MS will do the work of maintaining it, why should I care if I have the source code?" Keep in mind that Europeans have been having American products shoved down their throats since before World War II. Maybe they're used to it.

    Those of you who are from Europe--especially Spain!-- I'd like to hear what you think about all this. Once again, I realize that the situation in Northern Europe is a lot better than that in the Mediterranean and Eastern parts of the continent. Let's face it, Northern Europe is far more progressive and outward-looking than the rest of the continent, and often more so than America! However, I stand by my assertions when it comes to the rest. This is a really interesting issue. If someone has matices (nuances) to add or contradictions to register, please post!

    Quinn Weaver http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/Quinn

  20. No Subject Given by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Compaq Denies Being a Microsoft Victim

    ``If there were insufficient customer demand for a different operating system for personal computers, Compaq would consider licensing that operating system,'' Rose said. Aha, that explains the problem. There is sufficient demand for Linux on Compaq computers, so they don't ship Linux. Now, if there were insufficient demand, they'd have Linux boxes out the door in a jiffy! ;)
    Quinn Weaver http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/Quinnbr (still having account problems ;( )

  21. No Subject Given by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Compaq Denies Being a Microsoft Victim

    ``If there were insufficient customer demand for a different operating system for personal computers, Compaq would consider licensing that operating system,'' Rose said. Aha, that explains the problem. There is sufficient demand for Linux on Compaq computers, so they don't ship Linux. Now, if there were insufficient demand, they'd have Linux boxes out the door in a jiffy! ;)
    Quinn Weaver http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/Quinnbr (still having account problems ;( )