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I heard someone say that "Nobody ever made statues of committees".

Well, there was that whole Iwo Jima thing.

Here's a perfect example of what I mean: iwo_jima_crop. Take a look at the 4th picture, compare it to the 5th one, and read the text. See? The "intended layout" was modified on purpose. Twice, actually, if you condider that the whole picture was staged in the first place (as per the same page).

Yeah, Americans would never stoop so low - they gloriously reenact the photo op. Much more honest that way.

"[...] a 3,300-foot-high column of steam rising from the Pacific Ocean off the island of Iwo Jima. The vapor was reported Saturday after Japanese troops stationed on the small island observed the massive cloudy plume rise from the sea [...]"

Wait. Didn't we kick them off Iwo Jima? What are they doing back there? Didn't we leave a flag?

Those sneaky Japanese...

Indeed, very correct. Here's the pictures, for contrast:

The first picture. Note the tiny flag, and the pretty bad angle. Not a very cinimatic shot (though, personally, I think the soldier holding the gun in the bottom right gives a feel of danger to the picture, as he appears to be "on guard" and defending the position).

Here is the changing of the flags...

The second shot that everyone knows very well. Obviously, a very different feel to the picture.

Indeed, very correct. Here's the pictures, for contrast:

The first picture. Note the tiny flag, and the pretty bad angle. Not a very cinimatic shot (though, personally, I think the soldier holding the gun in the bottom right gives a feel of danger to the picture, as he appears to be "on guard" and defending the position).

Here is the changing of the flags...

The second shot that everyone knows very well. Obviously, a very different feel to the picture.

Indeed, very correct. Here's the pictures, for contrast:

The first picture. Note the tiny flag, and the pretty bad angle. Not a very cinimatic shot (though, personally, I think the soldier holding the gun in the bottom right gives a feel of danger to the picture, as he appears to be "on guard" and defending the position).

Here is the changing of the flags...

The second shot that everyone knows very well. Obviously, a very different feel to the picture.

It's not just associated with valour and giving ones life for "liberty".

It's a direct reference to a specific photograph of Iwo Jima. It is also associated with WWII. Landover Baptist might have a problem with the daemons, but the rest of the world might have a problem with the association with the US military.

Plus, it really is a crappy logo. It's a cute cartoon, and I appreciate its sentiment, but it's not going to get used in any magazine article on NetBSD, though. Not nearly as cool as Hexley, the Darwin logo. (He's a platypus wearing a daemon costume. Get it? Isn't he cute! If he weren't so dark skinned, they'd use him in magazines *everywhere*.)

...that someone found the devil offensive, and then double "Huh?" when they said it wasn't the devil, but the pose.

So in case you had absolutely no clue wtf they're talking about, here is the original picture, which is of the 28th marine regiment raising the american flag atop mt suribachi on february 23, 1945.

My personal opinion? Keep the deamon, lose the pose. The logo *is* too complex, as a logo. And no need to step on anyone's toes over the look-a-like pose. But the daemon is cool. Geez, you see much worse things in kid's shows these days. you have to be a real wuss to get offended by that one.

Kjella

Of course the accidental picture was the one that became famous.

For those that aren't making the connection, the famous photo and a number of others taken at the time are here. There was a stamp made of it too. And it was made into a statue for the Marine Corps War Memorial.

nope. this one [netbsd.org] looks like this [tamu.edu].

Oops, cultural references are always a problem if you don't share the culture.

Actually, it's modelled quite literally after this photo. I think I've seen that photo before (of course), but I didn't associate it with WWII at all.