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Re:It is a huge problem.
It's called pyramid contracting http://labor.net.au/news/1113193724_8739.html. What happens quite simply is company A puts in the lowest bid knowing full well they will never pay out one cent in liabilities, they do this by subcontracting to company B. Company B then arranges all the labour contracts through subsidiary company C. Company C now contracts out upon an individual basis to each and every company that represents each individual employee who must take full liability for all the actions of the individual employees company.
So no training trigger happy thugs are given free licence to go 'individually' bankrupt without affecting the profit of the head company in the slightest.
Now that can even be further manipulated into the corporations advantage. The worst, the most egregious and violent individuals will be reserved for revenge attacks upon the enemies of the corporation (whether direct or temporarily paid to be), they will be let loose upon those enemies to kill, main and brutalise. For which they will be convicted but there are plenty more where they came from and it won't cost the corporation one cent.
Guess who ends up paying, c'mon guess who foots the bill when those individual labour companies go bankrupt on the very first civil suit, your guessed it, the people who let the contracts. Privatisation of profits equals socialisation of losses.
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Re:Typical hypocritical, divisive crap from The Ag
We're not highly unionised, no. I know of 1 particular workplace that IS highly unionised, but they'd be the odd ones out.
IT workers certainly aren't conscious of being a part of the working class. They make the common mistake of considering themselves to be somehow above the working class, probably due to their income. My income, for example, is quite good. My working conditions are even better - I have a very supportive employer, and upper management even look kindly upon my activism, for example in the antiwar movement. In my current position, therefore, I don't see how a union would directly benefit me. HOWEVER, I realise that I may not be in my current position forever. I may not even be in the IT industry. My relationship to the union and other IT workers, and all workers in general, is one of solidarity. I stand alongside them in their struggles for better conditions, and in particular in defense of the new IR laws which come into effect in July.
This stance - of solidarity instead of just self-interest - is the stance that IT workers haven't yet taken on, hence the terribly poor union membership. Of course, there are other reasons why people have abandoned the unions or not turned to unions in the 1st place. I certainly have no illusions about them being a particularly progressive force. Their support of the Australian Labor party despite decades of 'economic rationalism' under Hawke & Keating is enough to send people away in droves ...
The last comment is about you 'never been approached to join' a union. In places like IT call centres, I can imagine a union representative turning up and making a sales pitch. In other areas - for example in our company where there are only 2 IT workers - it simply is not feasible for union reps to tour every single company looking for members. The IR laws also further hinder union access to workplaces, making the likihood of you being approached even less. This doesn't, however, preclude you from approaching them . As the Howard government and successive Labor governments increase the attacks on our 'way of life', I expect more people will be forced to take a more militant stance and actively seek out their union in seach of a method of defense. -
Re:Where do you get this stuff?I think (and hope) that that spirit is still alive and well in the Australian pysche. If it is, the Australian people - the ones who actually have to live under these stupid laws that - and I quote here (Just ask any aussie) "those stupid blooody pollies $Direction(up|down|over) there in Canberra".
What we do, see, is just ignore the law altogether - we did it with the copyright on videos - there is no "fair use" in the australian copyright laws - timeshifting is illegal. But does anybody pay any attention? No. In fact, we get our public figures - or a certain segment of our public figures pretty much advocating civil disobedience. Back then, it was Simon Townsend who stood up on the ABC and said (and this is a quote) "the law is an ass", during a show he had for a season or two Friday nights (because most Doctor Who stories around the time were four chapters which took up Monday to Thursday), when he gave this rather impassioned speech about copyright laws in Australia and how it was illegal to tape show for watching later. He was practically exhorting us to go out and breach these (quote) "foolish" laws. Those of you who don't remember Simon, he was a bit like Mr Rogers, only with more giggling. There was also a bloodhound involved.
With a comment from an earlier poster about the passing of Australia's version of the new anti-terror and sedition laws in mind, there was recently a show put together by Andrew Denton and Wendy Harmer, chock-full and brimming over with fine black Australian satire, sedition and treason. Deliberately so, as the show was intended as a protest against the new laws.
Here's an interesting bunch of comments to a story in the Sydney Morning Herald. See how many people are ready to put up their hands and say "Here we are, breaking the law. Whatcha gunna do?"
Remember the filtering measures that are already supposed to be in place, courtesy of Senator Richard Alston? What happened to them?
And finally, there's those rabble-rousing commie lefties right where they always have been - there at the helm of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Believe it or not, it was our very own comrade Rampaging Roy Slaven who gave this year's post-prandial wallopping at that glittering industry shindig, the annual Andrew Ollie Media Lecture. Towards the end of his speech - it's a cracking good one too, go and have a read of it, it's really long - he pointed out that...ABC TV has...managed to survive with its current affairs programs intact, loathed by Labor and Coalition alike, as it should be. And as it should be, it still strives to put forward an alternative view. So that when the commercial media is dictated to by myopic intrusive ownership and ill-informed populism, is forced through thoughtless need to make irresponsible programs that lack both style and substance, caresses inflammatory and cheap, nasty demagoguery that seeks to marginalize the already marginalized, that describes the world in simple terms, provides simple solutions to complex problems and is purely a servant to fiscal outcomes, then the ABC will always seem to aggravate, annoy and frustrate and it's precisely when the ABC is doing this that it is serving its charter"
And the head of the ABC agreed with him! Said that the ABC's job was to cause discomfort to the comfortable, or some such seditious nonsense. There's already
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Re:Moon kooks...
> A one week cruise
... represent an acceptable risk for career astronauts.
> Builders .....would probably like to see the tools and procedures proven where
> there is at least some hope of recovery to Earth
Builders on Earth are bad enough at taking basic precautions such as sun blocking cream or wearing a the right sort of shirt - what makes you think they'll go to the effort on another planet? -
It's not the opposition searching for his email
The original submission is wrong. It's not the opposition party that's searching for his email address (duh, they work in the same building for *#(%'s sake!), it's the Labor Council of NSW, that represents unions in Australia - that is searching for his email address. The page offering the reward of AU$100 worth of Linux merchandise and a case of Coke (to geeks nonetheless!) says it all.
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It's not the opposition searching for his email
The original submission is wrong. It's not the opposition party that's searching for his email address (duh, they work in the same building for *#(%'s sake!), it's the Labor Council of NSW, that represents unions in Australia - that is searching for his email address. The page offering the reward of AU$100 worth of Linux merchandise and a case of Coke (to geeks nonetheless!) says it all.
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The Actual Challenge Details
Bah! Only worth doing for the case of Coke and AUD$100 of linux merchandise. Like they will listen. Info can be found on the challenges official web site Where's John? -
Australian IT-related unions
In Australia, the Australian Services Union provides some basic union services to IT workers, however, as the name suggests, they cater more for call center personnel and office equipment repairers, and I don't believe they have representatives in any programming shops. The New South Wales government recently established the IT Workers' Alliance, which should better cover programmers and engineers.
Those with a university degree could also ask APESMA for legal advice or employment updates.
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Who do you trust?
Disclaimer: I don't live in the US, so I've got a little safe distance from many of these US issues (for now: Australia looks set to become a suburb of the US any day now...).
Anyway, I think the issue with FBI surveillance is not so much that we're concerned about Them spying on Us, and finding out all of Our secrets: after all, if that were the only problem, then some of you would be quite right, and we needn't worry if we're not doing anything wrong.
No, the worry is more about who's monitoring and what they're doing with it. Can the watchers, given this degree of access to our private communications, *really* be trusted to be as dispassionate and unbiased as we hope?
The problem with *any* abrogation of authority, surveillance, administrative or enforcement powers is that they then have the ability to use if for their purposes. Okay, rooting out terrorists is a worthy aim, but can we trust that they'll stick to that? Do we know that *Their* definition of "terrorist" matches *Ours*?
My definition of terrorist includes stuff like "blowing up as many people as possible". How do I know that theirs *doesn't* include stuff like "belongs to a subversive organisation like Amnesty International"?
Check this article on the work of the NSA during the cold war. I'm tempted to buy the book, depressing as it may be, but I'm not sure how much of it hasn't already been covered in the selection of Chomsky books on my shelves. The NSA *may* have been protecting what they thought of as American freedoms, but if those schemes were enacted, how many Americans (and others) would have suffered? Is *that* justifiable?
And as for the "who's a terrorist" question, well, how about the Reclaim the Streets crowd? How about Women in Black, recent nominees for a Nobel Peace Prize? When the definition of "terrorist" stretches that far, how many of us are innocent?
Given that there are at least 2 countries right now who are using the "War on Terrorism" excuse to launch a greater offensive against their enemies, I'm not overly confident that this surveillance would be used *solely* to find and bring to justice those guilty of the Spetember 11th bombing. Anyone criticising current US government policy could be considered a suspected terrorist. Anyone protesting the indefinite detention of material witnesses could be considered a terrorist. What then? Who's made any safer by this, and who suffers?