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RTS Games
Glest - A free 3D RTS game. To download for Linux, you'll have to go onto the forums, and get the loki installer, or you can use add/remove. Find the loki installer at: http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=87
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Re:ya but
( I can't remember if UT'99 has one also...?)
Epic was cool enough to do the linux port as soon as they released the windows version. They later had Loki maintain the port. I liked it better than the windows version because you could even play online without having to keep the CD inserted.Here's one place to get it. That link also has a download for an installer of the bonus packs.
The original Unreal Tournament is still a blast to play, and it'll run great even on something as old as a TNT2 video card.
Also, the original Unreal can be played if you have Unreal Tournament installed.
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Re:reinvigorate the PC games market my ass...
If you're willing, would you be willing to list them?
DOOM III (with linux binary download),
Castle Wolfenstein (with linux binary download).
The others I bought from tuxgames http://www.tuxgames.com/. They are more expensive and they take a week to deliver to the USA. I'm hoping they open a USA shop soon. I bought from them this year:
Heretic II,
Rune,
Soul Ride (my kids say it sucks),
Airport tycoon,
Myth II,
Heavy Gear,
I plan on buying a few more after Christmas. Wine works well for me for two out of three legacy Windows games.
I enjoy Starcraft and Warcraft II, but Diablo II doesn't work under my Wine config. All my DOS games work fine under DOSBOX http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1
My laptop can't handle extreme graphic requirements and I can play only so much mahjong :).
When I'm on the road with my laptop (P3, neo-magic chipset), I play Heroes III (loki games, discontinued), Wesnoth http://www.wesnoth.org/, and the stock KDE/Gnome games. Try here for some addition freeware games: http://liflg.org/?catid=6. I enjoy Glest and Warzone 2100.
Of course when I'm on the road I'm supposed to be working, but thats why I refused a company laptop and use my own :)
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Re:Not practical or profitable to develop for Linu
I'm not picking a fight, but I have a couple of issues with your post. First, I spent over $500US in the last seven months on Linux games. I think this is profitable for someone. When Win95 came out there was a transition. People didn't rush out to buy native Win95 versions of thier DOS games.
There are too many Linux distributions, none of which have a big enough of the Linux market to be considered the de facto standard Linux distribution to develop for and build a customer service department to support.
I bought just about every port that Loki did and I didn't have any problems playing them on on any >= 2.4 kernal version SuSE, RedHat or Ubuntu. Instead of a customer service department, how about a good technical support forum? The Linux Standards Base is your friend.
Finally, once you manage to get things working on a couple distributions, a new release comes out that invalidates your existing application. And in another 6 months another release of Linux is going to come out and invalidate your work again. A developer has a hard time keeping his game working under one distribution from one version to the next. Now multiply that by 10-20 for the most popular Linux platforms each releasing new versions every 6 months.
See above. All my Loki games have worked since SuSE 6.4/RedHat 7.0. As a user space game programmer why should you care about kernal changes. Just code to SDL/OpenGL (Both are backwards compatible).
Game applications are the most strenous and sensitive to the capabilities of the platform. Windows is pretty standard with DirectX. On Linux you don't know what's going to work; the very philosophy of choice with Linux translates to everyone's machine is just different enough in a way that makes developing a game for Linux a real frustration.
Thats nonsense. Code for the lowest good versions of SDL and OpenGL. You will be suprised on how many different distributions of Linux it will run on.
Shipping source code to your customers and expecting them to build it every time they upgrade their machine or switch distributions isn't a solution.
I have purchased over 20 commercial Linux games, none came with source. Are you trolling? You have never purchased/installed a native Linux game yet your an authority on shipping source with a Linux game? I call bullshit.
I buy my Linux games from here: http://www.tuxgames.com/ (No I'm not affilated with the site).
Check out the loki games from here, http://liflg.org/, pay special attention on how the installer works. You can get the installer sources for free from here: http://www.lokigames.com/development/setup.php3
As a Windows developer, you can always code your game/application to work with wine. http://www.winehq.com/ It seems to work OK for Google http://earth.google.com/earth4.html.
Your post does disgrace Interplay, SirTech, MindScape, SSI, Origin and many other great gaming companies from the 80s/90s that did (Intel/Non-Intel CPUs/OSs) cross-platform games.
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Re:Linux useability?
Valid points, all of them. Correct me if wrong, but system 9 users complained when they had to switch to OSX and Windows 3.x users complained when they switched to 95. Windows 9x users complained when they switch to a NT based system.
Eclipse... yeesh. I know it's supposed to be good, and it might be a fine Java IDE, but my multiple attempts at trying to get it to do PHP ended in failure, and on the one success... deep disappointment. My experience with Zend Studio on Windows has spoiled me, apparently.
Use Bluefish. Eclipse sucks for PHP. Did you buy the Zend license? What Web server did you use for PHP hosting? I couldn't get II's or Apache (multiple versions) too work across multiple versions. Personally I thought the cost was too much for what it did.
Games, too, like it or not. No, I'm talking about native games. None of this fiddling with WINE or Cedega. Video drivers (at least the proprietary ATI) are much more of a hassle to get working in Gentoo and even Ubuntu than is honestly necessary.
I love the occasional game too after 10 hours of coding. I used to bitch at ATI but with the last two Linux versions they have released, I can't complain anymore. The drivers work just as well as the nVidia drivers on my wife and sons computers. The next time you try Linux download alot of Free games here: http://liflg.org/. Wine should only be used on games you already own.
Thanks for the response,
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Time to Push for a few things
1. better Cedega Support - http://www.transgaming.com/
2. native installers - http://liflg.org/
3. Greater development in the SDL world
4. Push for support of
http://www.happypenguin.org/
http://www.linux-gamers.net/
http://www.icculus.org/ -
Re:Wrong solution
Im often reminded of Loki's work, a large portion of which was run from http://www.lokigames.com/ , and all the installer work thats been done -- http://www.liflg.org/.
Its proven that Games run natively in linux fine. UT2004 clearly proved this. I still support Transgaming in their aims, but ultimately, for PCgamers , its native installers that we need to support, not wrappers to emulate the envoirnment. -
Re:Are they really?
I did manage to get cedega to run Call of Duty perfectly from within a 32bit chroot, but in the end it was easier to just boot to a minimal 32bit Hoary for games. I don't think they are doing anything wrong really, nothing in the GPL says you have to provide easy to install free binaries. There's probably a
.deb floating around on P2P if you want to try before you buy ;)
I found that http://www.liflg.org/ is very handy for getting win32 games installed also.
Yeah, totem sucks, I've not seen it work yet. You may also want to run: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
if you have trouble with DVDs.
Good luck, glad to help.
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It's better now than it's EVER been.
Gee whiz folks, we've got UT2004 with a NATIVE PORT, we've got Doom 3 with a NATIVE PORT (excellent port thank you ID), HL2 plays under Cedega (you need a brute of a CPU tho.) Lots of games with nice installers: Check out http://liflg.org/ for installers for the best games.
People cry that it's too hard to get your video to work; I'm really sorry you were too cheap to get the GeForce Go 5200 and got the Intel "Extreme" integrated graphics and now your pixel shader games look crappy. Nevertheless, UT2004 and the UT2004 DEMO play under linux with the DRI drivers.
Stop complaining, Loki is gone, but http://icculus.org/ is still around, and several of those guys WORKED for loki. If you want it EASY, you want GAMES then either USE WINDOWS or buy an X-Box. If you prefer Linux and are willing to expend the time and energy (and reap the rewards of what you learn) then USE LINUX and play the games that work well, there are a bloody AWFUL lot of games that work, work well and aren't that difficult to set up.
Take a little time, subscribe to http://www.transgaming.com/, make a little donation to http://liflg.org/, buy products from http://www.nvidia.com/ and shut up & enjoy the games! -
It's better now than it's EVER been.
Gee whiz folks, we've got UT2004 with a NATIVE PORT, we've got Doom 3 with a NATIVE PORT (excellent port thank you ID), HL2 plays under Cedega (you need a brute of a CPU tho.) Lots of games with nice installers: Check out http://liflg.org/ for installers for the best games.
People cry that it's too hard to get your video to work; I'm really sorry you were too cheap to get the GeForce Go 5200 and got the Intel "Extreme" integrated graphics and now your pixel shader games look crappy. Nevertheless, UT2004 and the UT2004 DEMO play under linux with the DRI drivers.
Stop complaining, Loki is gone, but http://icculus.org/ is still around, and several of those guys WORKED for loki. If you want it EASY, you want GAMES then either USE WINDOWS or buy an X-Box. If you prefer Linux and are willing to expend the time and energy (and reap the rewards of what you learn) then USE LINUX and play the games that work well, there are a bloody AWFUL lot of games that work, work well and aren't that difficult to set up.
Take a little time, subscribe to http://www.transgaming.com/, make a little donation to http://liflg.org/, buy products from http://www.nvidia.com/ and shut up & enjoy the games! -
loki installers for linux gamersThese guys can help install games from their original cd onto linux.