Free, not Pay per month, and as long as I have played it, only 2 spots of down time in 6 months. I guess WoW has many things one upped on GW, but still.
First off, I think its a lot less likely for Larry and the rest of the Big O to consider something like Ubuntu. While one might assume that the Big O would go and consider the purchase of an OS , Ubuntu would clearly not be in this list of options. Theyd be more likely to purchase Redhat or as previously stated Novell. It would give Enterprise entry for thier products (Siebel and Peoplesoft included), into areas that they dont already have a wide presence into. To purchase Ubuntu wouldnt give clear liscense to this issue. Ergo Redhat, Novell, and even Mandriva become more likely targets merely because of their already existing corporate presence.
To the fact that Ubuntu is for newbs, I feel very less likely that this is the case. Rather a distribution attempting to cover feasiblity to a wide range of users , not just beginners. That be said, Imexius is correct in my quoting.
Support standpoint, we at the ubuntuforums find the support of ATI cards to be very frustrating. Their drivers dont work , and when they do, its spotchy at best.
This is probably the largest complaint we get on the Ubuntu Forums and the UDSF(http://doc.gwos.org/ in the way of graphics cards. I think I even remember being told at one point that ATI is so driven on DirectX development that they likely dont care much about developing Open Source Drivers, or even a decent working Proprietary driver.
What would be at best to do then, is to port concepts of CNR into Synaptic or other such interface. What Carmony doesnt understand is , how can you do this without charging money, which is his ultimate aim. This is not whole disimiliar to Apple's woes about releasing some of its code to the Open source community (rightly so, OSx86 popped up pretty quick). If Carmony released CNR code to the FOSS community, Id back him. But not at a charge to his benefit.
KingBahamut, Ubuntuforums.org
Or at least a few of us did. I know I did. Carmony's ideas are grandiose and thoughtful, but they arent thought out properly. Right down to his inclusion of Doomsday (game dev yagisian noted that the game was not for commercial distribution, and Carmony had to turn around and eat his own words, something I personally loved to see). The idea of including CNR , a pay as you go service, into a fairly all inclusive project like Ubuntu would be at best asinine.
What I find interesting in this is, I remember a story a ways back that stated that MSN Search was giving preferential treatment to search done against sites that run IIS by default. 35 million websites are a big thing to go against in the variation when you can only prefer 15 million of them in your top results. That cant possibly mean that MS think it can take away the market share on Search....Something I believe that Ballmer stated is a part of 4 Hallmarks that was next going to be focused on by MS in general (Server clustering, Appliances, Web Hosting and SaaS -- Software as a Service).
A Razer Chameleon and an Elumix Black. Was going to go with the Logitec Mouse....but the Razer looked nicer and IMHO the buttons were easier to get to.
It is easy to admit that their attempt at assessing the GPL as unconstitutional makes sense. Most Propreitary(sp? dont want to get hit by the grammar nazi) software developers consider GPL to be an infection. If they GPL a small portion of their code, even if they want to, they have to be extremely cautious as not to infect the rest of their code with GPL.
Did SCO do this?
Would not suprise me in the slightest bit. Again, yet another sign that blowhards like McBride are just trying to ride the wave for whatever money they can get out of their failing business.
I found myself asking -- What is the status of businesses that use SCO Unixware? It cant be that much.
I seem to remember that Novell was responsible for the sale of Unixware back in '95. This involved something of the vacinity of 6 million or something shares in the company , SCO. Odd almost to remember this in light of Novell's turn to Linux as its primary source of income.
Regardless, it seems unlikely that Unixware is used as commonly in business as it might seem.
If my identity were meant to be anything other than public, and my age meant to be any other than a reflection of my age ( ancient by most accounts ), then I would likely care.
But it isnt. I doubt many if any care about who I am or why. Call it the fatalist in me. I have no delusions about the concept of how to attain my identity or any other for that matter. But in the Land I grew up in a man meets those who speak on him with even terms. Not shrouded by something or hiding behind something. Am I saying thats what your doing now, no. Its your choice, but a Man has the right to know who hes speaking to. If in fact that is why you have deluded in supplying other information in regard to me, then you have half my respect.
The power of a man isnt said in what he can say about others, but what he can say about himself.
Thats the kind of respect that anyone person would ask, would they not?
Entirely your choice Duff, didnt say everyone should ditch the idea of being a manager, only said I couldnt do it. I often liken this opinion to something LE said a number of years back.
"When I started Oracle, what I wanted to do was to create an environment where I would enjoy working. That was my primary goal. Sure, I wanted to make a living. I certainly never expected to become rich, certainly not this rich. I mean, rich does not even describe this. This is surreal."
Go take your management position, go make more money. Or do something you love and make a mark for yourself.
Rather resent this statement. I do keep up with the current tech. I dont worry about wether xorg runs or not, nor do I concern myself with other such things. My father has been in the industry since 1973, and rather than take a management position , He still writes code. I know many many people that are in IT that do the same. Its not about money, its about what your willing to do for the money you get. And how productive you are. If thats what you feel you need to do, then do it. I respect that. Im just saying I could never do it. Its not about maturity, its not about money, its about doing what you love. If you are passionate enough, then you succeed.
Yes Im Passionte. Yes Im a Geek.
And yes, I still read my child a story at bed time. And Mountain bike a number of miles 2 times a week. And Go out with my wife on a fairly consistent basis to dinner in a nice restaurant.
and I still make consistenly higher raises in money a year.....and Im not management material.
hmmmm....its easy to say we dont have the cojones to ask the proper questions....but you dont have the brass balls to speak your name publically. That says alot.
Hmmm..well there is a trade off here. I feel that MS has done wonders for the client side of things. They cant very well rule the server market in my opinion, never will. But what they did for ease of use of the enduser , taking aside all the vulnerabilities and shortcomings otherwise , was tremendous. However I disaggree with your statement that Linux made MS better....I think that MS made Linux better....Userability and accessibility of the user has greatly increased over the successive releases of X envoirnments (Gnome and KDE specifically).
That all be said, I think its a testament to your statement -- a techie going into management. That to me is a person who wants to disavow responsibility as it were, and let others worry about it. I could never be a manager, it would take me away from what I love the most, development and integration. I think there are a lot of self professed geeks that would aggree with me on this point.
I suspect that this is largely the case because Ballmer is a nubmers man. Hes not a Technologist. Whenever you put an Accountant into that type of position thats typically the sort of behavior you get.
All Ballmer is doing is repeating information that was given to him. Hilf comes across as a lot more even. That I do aggree with.
Id liken the experience to what happened with Eisner at Disney. He too was a numbers man, not someone tied closely to the real people that run the business....
Longhorn will just in turn be the next in a long line of mistakes.
Bill Gates on the other hand has donated billions of dollars to curing third world hunger and AIDs through the Bill and Malinda Gates foundaton. In this sense he is continueing the work that *saints* such as Mother Thersa performed. Bill Gates, Microsoft and Windows form what could be considered a contemporary "Holy Trinity".
Spoken like a truely blind Microsoft folder. Dont let Mark Shuttleworth here you say those words. The millions that he just throws at good and just causes , Ubuntu linux included, to help benefit those in third world countries would all be in vain. Of course...let Gates donate millions of dollars to charity, maybe it will make up for the fact that he peddles his 200 dollar equivalent OS in countries where the userbase cant even think about spending that kind of money. Is that why XP - Lite exists......for a measly 90 dollar equivlency. Why bother when you can acquire a good stable Linux system for 0$. In starving 3rd world countries, Free is a lot more economical and cost effective than 90$. Your talking like a blind follower if you believe for an instant that Gates really does care about the humanitarian causes you think hes so supportive of.
Shuttleworth hard at work and much more a humanitarian than Gates will ever be.
Sanctity = 1. Holiness of life or disposition; saintliness. 2. The quality or condition of being considered sacred; inviolability. 3. Something considered sacred.
MS product is neither Holy nor Sacred. It is capable of much Violation, Destruction and Harm, ergo your statement, while very child-like in nature ( probably some poor unconstituted 12yo inacapable of popping the own zits off his face, gets his momma to help him. Or some severely clouded homophobe that actually wants to get in the hindquarter so hard he can taste it) , is also severely "skewed" shall we say.
Simplify - Why buy a product that requires me to go out and buy other products to install on it, and thus requiring more products to purchase to make it work.
So, I advise you go back into your Mom's basement and grab your XP machine, grip it tight, and be happy....because with an attitude like yours thats all the sanctity and simplification your ever going to get in your life.
Taking your ritilan twice a day is a lot better than not taking it at all.
"If in my lifetime the problem of non-free software is solved, I could perhaps relax and write software again. But I might instead try to help deal with the world's larger problems. Standing up to an evil system is exhilarating, and now I have a taste for it." -- RMS.
Ill harp M$ all I want, and I call it an evil system and just like Stallman, I have a taste for it too.
Yo buss dis....be that MS would try to interoperate properly in de envoirnment wit all viable candidates othuh than itself.
That bein said, no interoperability dat MS has evuh had wuz all dat great. SFU 3.0 wuz in my opinion a failua on de case uh MS. Samba wuz jus so much easiuh on Windows as an OS, thus negatin netwukin viability, an shit. Same wit Novell (old novell) an' Apple. Perhaps MS be goin to fix deir minds, it seems logical dat dey would. uh course, if dat went down, den Tridge wouldnt has much to do....=) Sheeit, don make me shank ya jess like mammy.
a product for the consumer that wouldnt force the consumer to go out and spend more money , in excess of 1000$ in nessecary software (Symantec , Mcaffee, MS Office, Entertainment software and Games, AntiSpyware, Disk Cleanup utilities, etc etc etc) , then I wouldnt feel so bad about spending 200 bux on a legit copy of Microsoft product.
I laud MS attempt to try to catch pirates of their OS, but....Too little Too late. Should have done this YEARS ago. Their numerous failed attempts at stopping piracy have failed...I dont see this as an end to it.
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Free, not Pay per month, and as long as I have played it, only 2 spots of down time in 6 months. I guess WoW has many things one upped on GW, but still.
First off, I think its a lot less likely for Larry and the rest of the Big O to consider something like Ubuntu. While one might assume that the Big O would go and consider the purchase of an OS , Ubuntu would clearly not be in this list of options. Theyd be more likely to purchase Redhat or as previously stated Novell. It would give Enterprise entry for thier products (Siebel and Peoplesoft included), into areas that they dont already have a wide presence into. To purchase Ubuntu wouldnt give clear liscense to this issue. Ergo Redhat, Novell, and even Mandriva become more likely targets merely because of their already existing corporate presence.
To the fact that Ubuntu is for newbs, I feel very less likely that this is the case. Rather a distribution attempting to cover feasiblity to a wide range of users , not just beginners. That be said, Imexius is correct in my quoting.
Support standpoint, we at the ubuntuforums find the support of ATI cards to be very frustrating. Their drivers dont work , and when they do, its spotchy at best.
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http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148531
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122094
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148415
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141090
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137343
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76147
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75001
This is probably the largest complaint we get on the Ubuntu Forums and the UDSF(http://doc.gwos.org/ in the way of graphics cards. I think I even remember being told at one point that ATI is so driven on DirectX development that they likely dont care much about developing Open Source Drivers, or even a decent working Proprietary driver.
There have been a few Petitions to do so
http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.htm
http://www.petitiononline.com/ati3/petition.html
And countless others. The community asks, almost begs, and all ATI does it laugh.
Its sad, really sad.
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
What would be at best to do then, is to port concepts of CNR into Synaptic or other such interface. What Carmony doesnt understand is , how can you do this without charging money, which is his ultimate aim. This is not whole disimiliar to Apple's woes about releasing some of its code to the Open source community (rightly so, OSx86 popped up pretty quick). If Carmony released CNR code to the FOSS community, Id back him. But not at a charge to his benefit. KingBahamut, Ubuntuforums.org
Or at least a few of us did. I know I did. Carmony's ideas are grandiose and thoughtful, but they arent thought out properly. Right down to his inclusion of Doomsday (game dev yagisian noted that the game was not for commercial distribution, and Carmony had to turn around and eat his own words, something I personally loved to see). The idea of including CNR , a pay as you go service, into a fairly all inclusive project like Ubuntu would be at best asinine.
KingBahamut
Forum Moderator - ubuntuforums.org
Um...Ubuntu.
What I find interesting in this is, I remember a story a ways back that stated that MSN Search was giving preferential treatment to search done against sites that run IIS by default. 35 million websites are a big thing to go against in the variation when you can only prefer 15 million of them in your top results. That cant possibly mean that MS think it can take away the market share on Search....Something I believe that Ballmer stated is a part of 4 Hallmarks that was next going to be focused on by MS in general (Server clustering, Appliances, Web Hosting and SaaS -- Software as a Service).
I got used to it after a while. That keyboard moves really fast, its built like a laptop keybaord or at least thats what it feels like. The other one I have is this one -- https://store.frogpad.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD &Product_Code=FPWHUSB20R&Category_Code=ALL&Store_C ode=FrogStore
That one took a lot of getting used to , but once I got to it, worked like a charm, great gamer keyboard.
A Razer Chameleon and an Elumix Black. Was going to go with the Logitec Mouse....but the Razer looked nicer and IMHO the buttons were easier to get to.
http://www.razerzone.com/
http://www.eluminx.com/product.asp?pid=5
Both seem to suit me just fine.
It is easy to admit that their attempt at assessing the GPL as unconstitutional makes sense. Most Propreitary(sp? dont want to get hit by the grammar nazi) software developers consider GPL to be an infection. If they GPL a small portion of their code, even if they want to, they have to be extremely cautious as not to infect the rest of their code with GPL.
Did SCO do this?
Would not suprise me in the slightest bit. Again, yet another sign that blowhards like McBride are just trying to ride the wave for whatever money they can get out of their failing business.
I found myself asking -- What is the status of businesses that use SCO Unixware? It cant be that much.
I seem to remember that Novell was responsible for the sale of Unixware back in '95. This involved something of the vacinity of 6 million or something shares in the company , SCO. Odd almost to remember this in light of Novell's turn to Linux as its primary source of income.
Regardless, it seems unlikely that Unixware is used as commonly in business as it might seem.
Helps to know to whom im speaking.
If my identity were meant to be anything other than public, and my age meant to be any other than a reflection of my age ( ancient by most accounts ), then I would likely care.
But it isnt. I doubt many if any care about who I am or why. Call it the fatalist in me. I have no delusions about the concept of how to attain my identity or any other for that matter. But in the Land I grew up in a man meets those who speak on him with even terms. Not shrouded by something or hiding behind something. Am I saying thats what your doing now, no. Its your choice, but a Man has the right to know who hes speaking to. If in fact that is why you have deluded in supplying other information in regard to me, then you have half my respect.
The power of a man isnt said in what he can say about others, but what he can say about himself.
Thats the kind of respect that anyone person would ask, would they not?
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Entirely your choice Duff, didnt say everyone should ditch the idea of being a manager, only said I couldnt do it. I often liken this opinion to something LE said a number of years back.
"When I started Oracle, what I wanted to do was to create an environment where I would enjoy working. That was my primary goal. Sure, I wanted to make a living. I certainly never expected to become rich, certainly not this rich. I mean, rich does not even describe this. This is surreal."
Go take your management position, go make more money. Or do something you love and make a mark for yourself.
Rather resent this statement. I do keep up with the current tech. I dont worry about wether xorg runs or not, nor do I concern myself with other such things. My father has been in the industry since 1973, and rather than take a management position , He still writes code. I know many many people that are in IT that do the same. Its not about money, its about what your willing to do for the money you get. And how productive you are. If thats what you feel you need to do, then do it. I respect that. Im just saying I could never do it. Its not about maturity, its not about money, its about doing what you love. If you are passionate enough, then you succeed.
Yes Im Passionte. Yes Im a Geek.
And yes, I still read my child a story at bed time. And Mountain bike a number of miles 2 times a week. And Go out with my wife on a fairly consistent basis to dinner in a nice restaurant.
and I still make consistenly higher raises in money a year.....and Im not management material.
hmmmm....its easy to say we dont have the cojones to ask the proper questions....but you dont have the brass balls to speak your name publically. That says alot.
Hmmm..well there is a trade off here. I feel that MS has done wonders for the client side of things. They cant very well rule the server market in my opinion, never will. But what they did for ease of use of the enduser , taking aside all the vulnerabilities and shortcomings otherwise , was tremendous. However I disaggree with your statement that Linux made MS better....I think that MS made Linux better....Userability and accessibility of the user has greatly increased over the successive releases of X envoirnments (Gnome and KDE specifically).
That all be said, I think its a testament to your statement -- a techie going into management. That to me is a person who wants to disavow responsibility as it were, and let others worry about it. I could never be a manager, it would take me away from what I love the most, development and integration. I think there are a lot of self professed geeks that would aggree with me on this point.
I suspect that this is largely the case because Ballmer is a nubmers man. Hes not a Technologist. Whenever you put an Accountant into that type of position thats typically the sort of behavior you get.
All Ballmer is doing is repeating information that was given to him. Hilf comes across as a lot more even. That I do aggree with.
Id liken the experience to what happened with Eisner at Disney. He too was a numbers man, not someone tied closely to the real people that run the business....
Yes, Johnny, there is a reason not to love MS.
Apple is going to put an Intel Chip into a system and sell it....Didnt they say that would never happen?
The Eagles got back together.....Did they say that was never going to happen?
Longhorn will just in turn be the next in a long line of mistakes.
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Bill Gates on the other hand has donated billions of dollars to curing third world hunger and AIDs through the Bill and Malinda Gates foundaton. In this sense he is continueing the work that *saints* such as Mother Thersa performed. Bill Gates, Microsoft and Windows form what could be considered a contemporary "Holy Trinity".
Spoken like a truely blind Microsoft folder. Dont let Mark Shuttleworth here you say those words. The millions that he just throws at good and just causes , Ubuntu linux included, to help benefit those in third world countries would all be in vain. Of course...let Gates donate millions of dollars to charity, maybe it will make up for the fact that he peddles his 200 dollar equivalent OS in countries where the userbase cant even think about spending that kind of money. Is that why XP - Lite exists......for a measly 90 dollar equivlency. Why bother when you can acquire a good stable Linux system for 0$. In starving 3rd world countries, Free is a lot more economical and cost effective than 90$. Your talking like a blind follower if you believe for an instant that Gates really does care about the humanitarian causes you think hes so supportive of.
Shuttleworth hard at work and much more a humanitarian than Gates will ever be.
http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/index.php?o
Next thing you do is tell me that President Bush is really actually doing a good job.
Sanctity =
1. Holiness of life or disposition; saintliness.
2. The quality or condition of being considered sacred; inviolability.
3. Something considered sacred.
MS product is neither Holy nor Sacred. It is capable of much Violation, Destruction and Harm, ergo your statement, while very child-like in nature ( probably some poor unconstituted 12yo inacapable of popping the own zits off his face, gets his momma to help him. Or some severely clouded homophobe that actually wants to get in the hindquarter so hard he can taste it) , is also severely "skewed" shall we say.
Simplify - Why buy a product that requires me to go out and buy other products to install on it, and thus requiring more products to purchase to make it work.
So, I advise you go back into your Mom's basement and grab your XP machine, grip it tight, and be happy....because with an attitude like yours thats all the sanctity and simplification your ever going to get in your life.
Taking your ritilan twice a day is a lot better than not taking it at all.
Screw M$.
Software should be free and non-proprietary.
"If in my lifetime the problem of non-free software is solved, I could perhaps relax and write software again. But I might instead try to help deal with the world's larger problems. Standing up to an evil system is exhilarating, and now I have a taste for it." -- RMS.
Ill harp M$ all I want, and I call it an evil system and just like Stallman, I have a taste for it too.
1. better Cedega Support - http://www.transgaming.com/
2. native installers - http://liflg.org/
3. Greater development in the SDL world
4. Push for support of
http://www.happypenguin.org/
http://www.linux-gamers.net/
http://www.icculus.org/
Yo buss dis....be that MS would try to interoperate properly in de envoirnment wit all viable candidates othuh than itself.
That bein said, no interoperability dat MS has evuh had wuz all dat great. SFU 3.0 wuz in my opinion a failua on de case uh MS. Samba wuz jus so much easiuh on Windows as an OS, thus negatin netwukin viability, an shit. Same wit Novell (old novell) an' Apple. Perhaps MS be goin to fix deir minds, it seems logical dat dey would. uh course, if dat went down, den Tridge wouldnt has much to do....=) Sheeit, don make me shank ya jess like mammy.
a product for the consumer that wouldnt force the consumer to go out and spend more money , in excess of 1000$ in nessecary software (Symantec , Mcaffee, MS Office, Entertainment software and Games, AntiSpyware, Disk Cleanup utilities, etc etc etc) , then I wouldnt feel so bad about spending 200 bux on a legit copy of Microsoft product.
I laud MS attempt to try to catch pirates of their OS, but....Too little Too late. Should have done this YEARS ago. Their numerous failed attempts at stopping piracy have failed...I dont see this as an end to it.