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What I found on the other hand was the Distro Taste Test - Linux & Beer - have a look :)

Ok, you were thinking about apt-get. I think you missed my point: apt is a suite of tools and libraries, and apt-get is only one frontend. Talking about "apt" being hard to use simply doesn't make sense; it's like saying that "libc is hard to use", or "ext2 is hard to use".

Non-console frontends to apt exist; for instance, synaptic is said to be good by people who have used it (ie, not me :-) ).

Daniel

while you're waiting for mozilla to build, I've installed mozilla.

and openoffice, gnome, KDE, a pile of audio editing utilities, and the latest security updates. that would take you somewhere around 3 days, even with your 'optimized' kernel and build chain, wouldn't it?

and then your oc'ed CPU burns up somewhere around the time mozilla finishes building, and you visit the benchmarks to prove that gentoo presents no performance benefits over debian and mandrake.

I mean, gimme a break here. Gentoo is slow especially for compiling stuff!

Test 3 : Kernel Compile

The same 2.4.21 source was copied to all machines and compiled using the same options. However, it should be noted that the Debian system used gcc 3.3.1 whilst the Mandrake and Gentoo installations used gcc 3.3.2 .

Results:

Debian
7m 28s

Mandrake
7m 49s

Gentoo
9m 40s

I did some followup on the article and the result is in this month's linmagau:

The article "What if the CIO doesn't know if they're running Linux?" is online now.

(PS. If this is familiar, I also noted this under the article Real NTFS.SYS under Linux.)

This is funny, Serendipity is at it again. I just wrote an article on linmagau.org about the idea of introducing Samba and OSS into the Enterprise.

I suggested a Koppix-like CD and proposed a name: Sambix.

The article "What if the CIO doesn't know if they're running Linux?" is online now.

5. Just a side note, Fedora isn't exactly the examplar of Linux's efficiency and performance. Go Gentoo!

Tests don't show any significant benefit for Gentoo versus binary packaging.

Please read the second to last line.

t's possible to run serious production servers that need recent-version daemons using Gentoo defaults for compile options and with a nicely-rationalized /etc/*/ tree for the configuration options. If you want to accomplish the same with Debian you're going to have to custom-compile your major daemons, and deal with much more of a mish-mash of init and conf stuff.

Mind you, Debian is good if you want a server that's not cutting-edge, that's real stable, and that doesn't do much that's fancy. But Gentoo is less trouble and performs better if you have clients who you've sold on using today's technology, rather than that of several years ago.

Oh, and desktops in particular run much better when the stuff is compiled for your specific hardware

and the feel of responsiveness is a major factor in making power desktop users feel comfortable and happy

Adabas is just a database backend and not very important, though I admit it would be nice to bundle one of the existing open source backends just to remove the need to fetch and install one.

Backends that are currently supported by both StarOffice and OpenOffice include MySQL, Postgress, and any data source exposed by ODBC 3.0, JDBC, ADO, dBase, or if you want to go low tech flat CSV files.

When most people say they want an Access-like tool, they mean a frontend, something that OpenOffice and StarOffice already have.

To help you out, the main database section of OpenOffice.org has atips and tricks section.

Then, there are the forums that have some very interesting threads on the subject...

...such as this handy little link

Does it seem strange to anyone else that in the linked photo gallery, the only picture with a female has been viewed 3 times more than any of the other pictures?

Sheesh.

I guess there's just not much scenery to show off at distro day.

Does it seem strange to anyone else that in the linked photo gallery, the only picture with a female has been viewed 3 times more than any of the other pictures?

Sheesh.

I guess there's just not much scenery to show off at distro day.

Yes, but gentoo is slow

As far as installation time goes, well, that varies ;-)

One of the earlier articles covers running the basic installer, but you may have trouble getting to it right now since the linmagau server is slashdotted:

http://www.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&nam e=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=46&pag e=1

As for time to invest in updating security patches etc, that depends which distro (Stable, Testing, Unstable) you go with. For a server, use Stable. Then as long as you have security.debian.org in your sources.list (the default if you use the Woody installer) and do a regular "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" you'll be set as far as security patches are concerned.

For Testing and Unstable the situation is slightly more complex, but for a server they are irrelevant unless you start doing things like backporting recent packages - not something you are likely to do until you learn more about Debian.

I'm intending to do a future article on the process Debian use for security patches, advisories etc. It's in my TOC on www.debianuniverse.com anyway ;-)

Also covered in this article at linmagau.
Slackers at The Age are always behind the curve.
Jabber rocks....

Also covered in this article at linmagau.
Slackers at The Age are always behind the curve.
Jabber rocks....

was the results of the poll linked from the left hand side of the page. These indicate that the vast majority of people want either Hard copy of music only, or freebies only - indicating very little interest in Pay-per-Play and other forms of chargeable online music.

The results of the poll can be found here