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Re:Right.
You are only protected again unreasonable searches.
Uh, yes. And how do we determine if a search is unreasonable? We make the searchers present their case to a court to obtain a warrant.
Do you realy think that the cop who pulls you over for having tinted windows or doing a rolling stop at a 4 way stop sign and ends up searching your car went through the process to get a warrant?
If the law were followed, yes. The "Carroll doctrine" is highly refined bullshit that's led to pretext stops - "driving while black" and the like.
You want to search my car? Let's wait while you make your case to a magistrate. It's the 21st century, with modern communications technology it shouldn't take fifteen minutes. If it takes hours, I'll wait: freedom sometimes occasions inconveniences.
Do you really think they got a warrant to hand cuff you and search your pockets when they arrest you for looking stupid in public?
I'm not aware that "looking stupid in public" is a crime. Now, if I'm arrested because the cops have probable cause - sound reason to believe that I've criminally caused injury - then while I'm in their custody a search incident to arrest is permissible. But that's very limited to a scope that prevents destruction of evidence and to prevents access to a weapon, it doesn't allow them to go fishing for evidence. They're basically just taking custody of the stuff on my person along with my person.
You don't want a cop to stop and think if he is going to goto prison if he shoots the guy who just slit your wifes throat and has turned the knife on you. After all, he would probably stop killing people after he kills you so would the cop be justified in shooting them before he kills you.
Every person has the right - indeed, the obligation - to use reasonable force to respond to a clear and present danger of a heinous crime. Cops do not need and should not have any additional protection in this regard; if it's not legal for me to shoot you, cops shouldn't be shooting you either.
What the does this have to do with the lawless behavior of LEOs who perform warrantless searches, or of legislators who pretend to "authorize" them? Not a damned thing.
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Re:While we're at it...Lets ban children from watching, listening to, or reading the news. There are all kinds of accounts of anti-social behaviors contained in the news. Shouldn't we be "protecting the children" from that too? Or from reading the bible.
Violence: "And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel." (Judges 19:29)
"Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David's hand. Then David ran and stood over the Philistine and took his sword and drew it out of its sheath and killed him, and cut off his head with it." (1 Samuel 17:50-51)
"And I will set My jealousy against you, that they may deal with you in wrath. They will remove your nose and your ears; and your survivors will fall by the sword. They will take your sons and your daughters; and your survivors will be consumed by the fire." (Ezekiel 23:25)
"And when Herod saw that he had been tricked by the magi, he became very enraged, and sent and slew all the male children who were in Bethlehem and in all its environs, from two years old and under...." (Matthew 2:16) Suicide: "Then said Saul unto his armourbearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and thrust me through, and abuse me. But his armourbearer would not; for he was sore afraid. Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it.
"And when his armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his sword, and died with him." (I Samuel 31:4-5) Sex: "Let your fountain be blessed, and rejoice in the wife of your youth, as a long hind and a graceful doe, let her breasts satisfy you at all times." (Proverbs 5:18-19)
"Your stature is like a palm tree, and your breasts are like its clusters. I said, 'I will climb the palm tree. I will take hold of its fruit stalks.' Oh may your breasts be like clusters of the vine and the fragrance of your breath like apples." (Song of Solomon 7:7-8)
"Now when evening came David arose from his bed and walked around on the roof of the king's house, and from the roof he saw a woman bathing; and the woman was very beautiful in appearance. So David sent and inquired about the woman. And one said, 'Is this not Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?' And David sent messengers and took her, and when she came to him, he lay with her; and when she had purified herself from her uncleanness, she returned to her house. And the woman conceived, and she sent and told David, and said, 'I am pregnant.'" (2 Samuel 11:1-5) Incest: "And Lot went up to Zo'ar, and dwelt in the mountains, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zo'ar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
"And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
"Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
"And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
"And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
"And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
"Thus were both daughters of Lot with child by their father." (Genesis 19:30-36) Sources:
Ban the Bible?
Saving our children from the bible
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Re:Libraries
I'm not getting over on anyone, I'm being gotten over by being successfully intimidated. I sometimes volunteer at a local volunteer-run bookstore where people can browse, borrow or buy books from publishers like Soft Skull Press, Autonomedia, South End Press etc.
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Re:Makes me laugh.Agreed, that after a little research it does appear that there is a defacto power (though absolutely no right) for a jury to disregard the law and apply their own brand of mercy.
"These constitutional rules, in combination, give a criminal jury the inherent discretionary power to "decline to convict." and insure that such "discretionary exercises of leniency are final and unreviewable." McCleskey v. Kemp, 481 U.S. 279, 311(1987). ".
However, in terms of duty:nullification poses a threat to the process by which existing jurisprudence is vindicated. This threat was addressed by Justice Harlan in 1895 in Sparf v. United States. There the Supreme Court held that it is the duty of a jury in a criminal case to apply the law as given to it by the trial court. This decision set a precedent that has been followed to the present
However, this duty is mostly unenforcable once the verdict is rendered. I would suggest that it does seem that the "unwillingness to inquire into jurors' motivations during or after deliberations" has abated:California Supreme Court unanimously backed a Santa Clara County judge's actions in dismissing a juror who expressed the opinion in the jury room that statutory rape shouldn't be a crime.
Under California's 1998 "snitch" rule, judges routinely order jurors to inform the court if a juror is not applying the law during deliberations.
"Jury nullification is contrary to our ideal of equal justice for all and permits both the prosecution's case and the defendant's fate to depend upon the whims of a particular jury, rather than upon the equal application of settled rules of law," Chief Justice Ronald M. George wrote -
Paladin PressThough not specifically an example of the federal government abridging Constitutionally protected free speech, if they look the other way and let the courts abridge the free speech, then it is just as bad. Case in point. Look at advertisements for Paladin press these days. They have none of the cool books they used to advertise.
Paladin stood by the fundamental principle of the First Amendment -- that all books, no matter how unsavory the subject matter, are protected.
But it turns out that they were wrong...
see: http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/FirstAmend.htm
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Re:We are lucky,
Actually, I put the blame for Columbine on the drugs those 2 were taking...intereesting article on the subject here.
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Books they'd LOVE to trace
I'd like to see them try to subpeona the records of Loompanics Unlimited. They've got the best selection of underground/subversive books I've ever seen, and have been around more than 20 years.
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Anarchist's CookbookI came across a copy of The Anarchist's Cookbook in a tourist bookshop at Ghiradelli Square, filed under "'60s nostalgia".
You can still get such things from Loompanics.
Al-Queda has demonstrated that they already know how to build bombs. And this info has been available for years. It's not a big deal at this point.
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Other dream homes....
Loompanics Unlimited, that sterling source of all that They don't want you to know, has a section of books on these kinds of things. My favorite is this one. I want a decommissioned nuclear submarine I can berth at Manhattan! Then I can live "in" the East Village (where I live now - been interesting) and get away from it all.
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Other dream homes....
Loompanics Unlimited, that sterling source of all that They don't want you to know, has a section of books on these kinds of things. My favorite is this one. I want a decommissioned nuclear submarine I can berth at Manhattan! Then I can live "in" the East Village (where I live now - been interesting) and get away from it all.
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Other dream homes....
Loompanics Unlimited, that sterling source of all that They don't want you to know, has a section of books on these kinds of things. My favorite is this one. I want a decommissioned nuclear submarine I can berth at Manhattan! Then I can live "in" the East Village (where I live now - been interesting) and get away from it all.
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Re:Forget your little dot-bomb thinkgeek world.
If you want to simplify things, I strongly suggest this book.
It's basically an outline of different strategies to cut down on unnecessary expenses, and still live life to the fullest.
Some of the strategies given might seem a little extreme (at least, if you don't compare them to this guy), but most of the suggestions are simple, make life more enjoyable, and the savings add up. -
Re:an interesting correlation....
Also, does anybody know how this works in physical print?
In the US, at least, freedom of speech is valued enough that pretty much anything is allowed to be printed. A good example would be Loompanics who published such things as the original Anarchist's Cookbook, and other devious materials.
I think that the linking is a sub-issue raised by this case. The real debate is about whether or not code is speech. If Kaplan thought that all computer code counted as such, then it would be free and under the same provisions as Loompanic's mischevious manuals, or books on illegal drugs like PIHKAL. (try Erowid for more info.) However, he is clearly of the opinion that the source code is not speech like a book, but is something else (or more likely Kaplan is not computer-savvy enough to grasp the difference between source code and an actual program).
If I was as cynical now as I was in high-school, I would add: Big business won even though they weren't actually right. Welcome to America.
peas,
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Strong Language - Posting DeCSS as Assassination!I found Kaplan's opinion strongly worded, to say the least. He starts out by equating programming as speech to political assassination as speech.
I understand the limitations on "calls to action" like incitement to crime or yelling fire in a crowded theater. But if that's the basis for eliminating the First Amendment as protecting DeCSS, there's a contradiction between that and the protection that Loompanics books get, which include guidelines on credit fraud, making and using explosives, manufacturing illegal drugs, escaping from jail, etc. Posting DeCSS isn't an incitement to commit crime anymore than posting a description of how to make a submachine gun is - what the user does with the information is the user's responsibility, not the information's.
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Banning books on making bombs: Not in USA.Note that it is quite legal in the USA to sell books on making bombs. Loompanics has a few of them on sale that you can buy right now, including "MIDDLE EASTERN TERRORIST BOMB DESIGNS". The Feds once tried to shut down Loompanics, and were rudely shot down by a Federal court.
What is NOT legal is selling a book that advocates USING one of those bombs. Speech which has the purpose of inciting to violence is not protected speech, the courts have ruled. Speech which merely shows how to make an instrument of violence, on the other hand, is protected. Given this, it's hard to see how, considering that the judge has basically concluded that code is speech, he could conclude that code can be banned... it does not, after all, provide an incitation for violence, it merely gives the "blueprint" for a "copyright bomb".
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Re:Why more connected?
I hope this is a troll that I'm falling for.
The web is supposed to be linked together. That's why you put something on the web instead of publishing it in a 'zine or a book or any other form of printed materials. Just because you don't want or need one click access to relevent information doesn't mean that it shouldn't be there. Would you still visit slashdot if it didn't link to the articles it talked about? Would suck be any good without links?
I'm not arguing for linking to random information just because you can, but informative linking is why hypertext has the hyper.
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