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sounds like salvia to me

because alaska has the highest per capita broadband pentration in the world. this company owns 75% of the alaskan cable market and has cable modem access on almost all of that. the same company has a network for hooking up schools to the internet -- even in the most remote villages.

industry here is not suffering, either. my friends in the construction business are hopping as always, and with GW in the white house, we all expect ANWAR to get opened up Real Soon Now.

and the only real agriculture we have is big cabbages and good weed.

i don't mean to go off here, but hey, most alaskans get tired of the misconceptions.

Then I'd just have to update the blocked list with whatever it turned out they were hitting the most.

You should try growing some reed canary grass (Phalaris arundinacea), which looks like ordinary grass, but has DMT in it. DMT is a hallucinogen related to magic mushrooms and more distantly to LSD. Read the FAQ at Lyceum.org

Expresso is a dictionary accepted variant. Funny enough, they don't think ficking is a word.

this posting on slashdot is pretty disturbing. i know we all suspected that the editors rarely read the links they post in any detail, but i would never have expected this kind of sloppy journalism. i know slashdot is hardly the New York Times, but this is bad, even for slashdot.

it's funny how people are willing to instantly believe something if it fits nicely into their point of view, wether there's proof or not. it's pretty obviously that Taco dislikes Apple, and he patently (hah) despises patents. when the two are put together, it's just so overwhelmingly good news, why even bother to follow the link?

for some reason i was reminded of the infamous "LSD user blinded by staring at the sun" hoax that went around a long while ago. the story spread like wildfire, and morphed the details each time. every major news outlet (the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, Newsweek and Time Magazine among others) reported this horrible story about four "normal" college kids that were perminantly blinded while "holding a religious conversation with the sun."

the whole story was found to be a hoax constructed by a Dr. Yoder from the Institute of the Blind in Pennsylvania, who admitted he had made up the story "because I am concerned about the illicit use of LSD and other drugs."

so how is it that all these reputable news outlets all published the same obviously false article? because it nicely fit the popular opinion of the editors and readers

so i suppose if this can happen to the most established news outlets, then we shouldn't really expect any different from slashdot. if you ever thought slashdot was a better breed than your mainstream media, what the hell were you thinking? at any rate, i think the moral here is this: remember that slashdot is ignorant and biased as any other media outlet. don't let the fact that it generally supports your views to cloud your own judgement.

(ps: Apple isn't quite as "evil" as you think they are, despite what slashdot feeds you)

- j

Erowid and The Lycaeum are in danger every time that bitch from California introduces another unconstitutional law against disseminating drug information.

And now, 10 years later, I have done alcohol, marijuana, LSD, and MDMA, (I am also now a smoker, which is something I tremendously regret), and I feel I am no worse off for it. Until I came to college, I had an incredible lack of proper information on the subject and wouldn't have been much more cautious about trying different substances.

The thing I see as the greatest problem with D.A.R.E. is the downplaying of the dangers of alochol, since they are mainly concerned with preventing underage drinking. In fact, however, alcohol is much worse for the human body than a lot of other drugs. It's simply been grandfathered into our society because it's been around for so long. I believe that if people were simply given decent information on these substances (At sites such as Erowid.org and lycaeum.org (Lyceaum is much larger but poorly organized, Erowid is beautifully organized and a great place to start for real information on drugs)) that we would see an increase in "soft" drug use, but also a decease in hard drug use.

Of course, my personal belief is that the US should legalize ALL drugs, not just some. They should also retract any and all laws that govern crimes against ones self. (ie- Some state just recently outlawed sex toys.. what a complete load of BS). What people do in their own homes should be up to them. Granted, there should be laws governing their actions while on these substances (ie- things similar to drunk driving laws).

The results of making these drugs legal would mean 1) An increase in the quality of street drugs (which has been a problem with MDMA) 2) Would lead to a decrease in price 3) would eliminate the crime associated with illegal drug trafficing 4) Would create a new source of revenue for the US government, or the drug companies, while eliminating the need to spend trillions on the "War against drugs" 5) Would result in an overall more informed populace.

Of course we all know how wonderfully draconian the US government loves to be when deciding what its citizens are and aren't allowed to do to themselves. Isn't it a great society we live in? (Well, it's pretty decent, not great though, but it's the best the human race has come up with so far)

Heroin is actually one of the safer drugs out there. The dangers posed by heroin use are completely a product of the drug war and the black market that it creates.

Sure, you can get addicted, but addiction itself is not inherently dangerous, as long as you have a reliable and pure source of the drug -- something which is not possible in the current legal and political climate.

Just consider how heroin addicts are treated -- with methadone. Methadone is an opiate, just like heroin and binds to the same receptors (so you can't any effects from heroin). The only difference is that it doesn't make you FEEL GOOD. You're still addicted, but not to herion -- to a socially acceptable drug, one that doesn't make you FEEL GOOD and one that you can obtain a pure and reliable supply for under the pretense of "treatment."

For more information check the lycaeum, or better yet, try Pharmacotheon by Jonathan Ott.

tterb, Lycaeum volunteer.

The problem with this is that:

1. The horror stories are representative of a small portion of the population that uses drugs, and, concerning the softer drugs,
2. It is baseless propaganda

This, in its own way, is not a good thing. Many of my friends who did graduate D.A.R.E. and became potsmokers and acidtrippers and rollers know just enough about the chemicals they put in their bodies to believe that, instead of being completely and utterly detrimental to their entire life, these drugs are almost completely safe.
So while they now know that marijuana is non-habit forming, they may not know that those who smoke risk a greater chance of neck and throat cancer, along with everything that smoking a cigarette might cause (although since many potsmokers smoke much less marijuana than cigarette smokers, they don't stand as high a risk).
While LSD is practically impossible to overdose on (as is marijuana), and in its pure form does not cause nerve damage, it can cause psychological damage in those who are not prepared for it (i.e. taking a much larger dose than they are mentally capable of handling).
MDMA, or ecstasy, is quite probably linked with minor to significant nerve damage, as well as forms of depression in heavy users.

The problem is not just in the way the D.A.R.E. instructor groups all drugs into one category. It is also the drug laws that persist in the United States. The instructor can't rightly say to a room of fourthgraders that marijuana and LSD have little to no eventual consequences and then reaffirm that they are illegal. The D.A.R.E. program is just a proponent of the U.S.'s draconian antidrug laws.

For the D.A.R.E. program to be viable, it must first be truthfully informative. If children were to get viable and honest information on the various substances out there, as well as methods of using them responibly, drug use may go up, but I believe that hard drug use will go down. But for the D.A.R.E. program to teach children honest information about the drugs out there, the ill-informed and unjust drug laws in the United States would have to be overturned. And that is something I (regrettably) don't see happening anytime soon.

For an extensive database on the different drugs out there, try lycaeum.org and erowid.org. Both are highly informative and lycaeum.org contains the largest trip report database on the web.

The problem with this is that:

1. The horror stories are representative of a small portion of the population that uses drugs, and, concerning the softer drugs,
2. It is baseless propaganda

This, in its own way, is not a good thing. Many of my friends who did graduate D.A.R.E. and became potsmokers and acidtrippers and rollers know just enough about the chemicals they put in their bodies to believe that, instead of being completely and utterly detrimental to their entire life, these drugs are almost completely safe.
So while they now know that marijuana is non-habit forming, they may not know that those who smoke risk a greater chance of neck and throat cancer, along with everything that smoking a cigarette might cause (although since many potsmokers smoke much less marijuana than cigarette smokers, they don't stand as high a risk).
While LSD is practically impossible to overdose on (as is marijuana), and in its pure form does not cause nerve damage, it can cause psychological damage in those who are not prepared for it (i.e. taking a much larger dose than they are mentally capable of handling).
MDMA, or ecstasy, is quite probably linked with minor to significant nerve damage, as well as forms of depression in heavy users.

The problem is not just in the way the D.A.R.E. instructor groups all drugs into one category. It is also the drug laws that persist in the United States. The instructor can't rightly say to a room of fourthgraders that marijuana and LSD have little to no eventual consequences and then reaffirm that they are illegal. The D.A.R.E. program is just a proponent of the U.S.'s draconian antidrug laws.

For the D.A.R.E. program to be viable, it must first be truthfully informative. If children were to get viable and honest information on the various substances out there, as well as methods of using them responibly, drug use may go up, but I believe that hard drug use will go down. But for the D.A.R.E. program to teach children honest information about the drugs out there, the ill-informed and unjust drug laws in the United States would have to be overturned. And that is something I (regrettably) don't see happening anytime soon.

For an extensive database on the different drugs out there, try lycaeum.org and erowid.org. Both are highly informative and lycaeum.org contains the largest trip report database on the web.

I "graduated" from DARE the first year it came out. Granted it has changed since then, but when I look back at it, the majority of things tought were either outright lies or didn't work.

My mother (Hi mom) was on the local DARE board, then finally quit and told me she didn't think it was doing any good.

(People in gerneral and) Teens are going to do drugs if they want to. Nothing is going to change that. They will overdose on heroin and die, get drunk and drive and die, get addicted to tobacco at age 14, etc.

Trying to force them to do otherwise will make some want to do it even more. I don't see programs like DARE or 'get tough on crime' doing anything to help, but rather I think education is the key. Sites like Erowid or Rhodium can do more good through education than fear-mongering can do.

[OT - Am I a felon for linking those sites?]

The drug analogy has already been discussed, so both these posts are redundant.

There are plenty of sites that deal with drugs: www.erowid.org and www.lycaeum.org are good examples, as well as the many sites that report on Ectasy pill testing such as www.dancesafe.org and www.bluelight.nu.

None of these sites will tell you "all the great places to grab some dope or pickup som". iSONEWS will not tell you where or how to download CD images.

The comparisions extend even further--the Ecstasy drug testing sites will tell you which pills have DXM or other harmful chemicals, and iSONEWS will often report on any releases that have bad cracks or install problems.

Umm, you mean sites like erowid.org, the lycaeum, dancesafe, and bluelight, just to name a few? Yeah, heaven forbid we put unbiased information on drugs on the net so that people can make informed decisions for themselves rather than having the governments FUD shoved down their throats.

Perhaps you also want to be upset about books like Pihkal, which has trip reports and labratory sythesises for hundreds of drugs? What about books like Total Synthesis which give detailed instructions for the synthesis of amphetamines? Yeah, better make those illegal, too.

For the record, I could care less about making illegal substances in my bathtub, but I think it's my right to read how they are made should I choose to put them in my body.

Shayne

i have always like the Lycaeum for stuff like this. It's also got some funny anecdotes about specific drugs including Caffeine, for interested parties.


FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network

well more news for the druggies, tobacco could make you vomit without nausea, you might be terribly surprised if you cook and dose your nutmeg as a fool, and coffeine could get you dancing on the freway in a traffic
don't miss their Report Collections. crazy stories if you can skim skim some junk. (well, It includes accounts from people of various ages and backgrounds, aims to give a picture as complete as possible.) Enjoy.

well more news for the druggies, tobacco could make you vomit without nausea, you might be terribly surprised if you cook and dose your nutmeg as a fool, and coffeine could get you dancing on the freway in a traffic
don't miss their Report Collections. crazy stories if you can skim skim some junk. (well, It includes accounts from people of various ages and backgrounds, aims to give a picture as complete as possible.) Enjoy.

well more news for the druggies, tobacco could make you vomit without nausea, you might be terribly surprised if you cook and dose your nutmeg as a fool, and coffeine could get you dancing on the freway in a traffic
don't miss their Report Collections. crazy stories if you can skim skim some junk. (well, It includes accounts from people of various ages and backgrounds, aims to give a picture as complete as possible.) Enjoy.

well more news for the druggies, tobacco could make you vomit without nausea, you might be terribly surprised if you cook and dose your nutmeg as a fool, and coffeine could get you dancing on the freway in a traffic
don't miss their Report Collections. crazy stories if you can skim skim some junk. (well, It includes accounts from people of various ages and backgrounds, aims to give a picture as complete as possible.) Enjoy.

Everyone should check out the resources available at places such as:
Erowid
The Lycaeum
Ecstasy.org
Dancesafe

To those that think drugs are evil, remember Prozac, Ritalin, the heart medicine you take, the pills your grandmother takes every day, and then think about just how much you actually know about the things you put in your body daily.

Do your research -- Enjoy drugs w/peace of mind.

-Kabloona
"We can't stop here, this is bat country!"

I encounter a lot of people on a daily basis who are either grossly misinformed or genuinely ignornant of how cannabis became illegal in the US.

What's my canned response? "Go read the Whitebread Speech." It's opened a lot of eyes.

Ha Ha Ha, you're a misinformed idiot (like the guys on capitol hill) How active is cocaine when taken orally? How much would be needed to excite the dopamine transmitters and whatnot? I'm sure it would be much more than the 200mg a pill of MDMA is. Oh yeah, Cocaine lasts about twenty minutes, one exposure when masked by the stimulant properties of MDMA cannot lead to addiction. Hmm, let me think..this sounds like those stories of E laced with heroin..something that is virtually inactive at the doses required to fit in a pill when taken orally. Are you pulling these facts out of your ass..are you getting this information from drugfreeamerica.org-clearly a non-biased website. Try actually learning about drugs (it doesn't have to be first hand) through books (oh wait, congress is going to take away those rights..I can't wait to see kids at parties drinking too much water or mixing MDMA with alcohol because they cannot get any information.) Why shouldn't we regulate the recreational drug phenomonon--because the Goverment is run by a bunch of Puritanical Christians and Idealistic Liberals? God, this makes me sick.. Oh yeah, if it weren't for websites such as erowid and lycaeum two of my friends would have been seriously hurt when they drank a vile of acid...wanna know why? Because I learned that Chlorpromazine Maleate is an anti-psychotic and that thorazine (which I had supplies of) would also help to bring them back to ground zero. Would this law also ban sites whose intent is to help others (i.e. needle exchange sites with tips on how to safely inject)? Instead of sweeping the drug "problem" under the tables and ignoring the fact that they exist, I would propose that we the american people legalize our rights to property and capitalize on our ability to treat our bodies as our own temples..to injest whatever we like, no matter how harmful the government says..god..I'm sure whoppers and big macs contribute to more deaths than all illegal drugs combined. What were there? like 5 deaths in the US last year in which *only* MDMA was involved.. what 100 in which the stupid (I say stupid because they are uninformed..cause they didn't read up) and mixed alcohol or other drugs with their e.. Oh and lets see..how many deaths occur each year to alcohol poisoning, driving under the influence of alcohol? Who are we going to believe? An oppressive government and its propaganda spreading "education campaigns? (DARE,DRUGFREEAMERICA, NIDA,DEA) or those researchers who present only the facts? (the late Dr. Saunders, the folks at MAPS.org) The choice isn't hard.. I personally would like to choose facts over fiction. Sincerely everyones with peace love unity and respect, Josh

Back around 1991 or 1992 I setup what I believe is was the first drug information site on the internet using the University of Washington's publically accessable FTP server. The information in that site was incorporated into hyperreal and from there into lycaeum and erowid. I've authored texts on how to Synthesize MDMA and Synthesize LSD.

I would just like to know how we're supposed to have discussions about heavy metal contaminants in methamphetamine synthesis or chromates in methcathinone if we can't discuss how those drugs are actually manufactured? What is different about me reading about how to synthesize drugs on the net and going down to the medical and chemistry libraries at my local university and reading about them there? The latter information is necessary for professionals and scholars to be able to intelligently discuss issues surrounding the synthesis of illegal drugs. Why are people on the net being singled out for exclusion and not being allowed to access this information?

If this law passes I plan on putting up a site which contains exactly the same kinds of information that you can get from the journal of forensic science or journal of medicinal chemsitry but violates the law by including information on the synthesis of illegal drugs (just like those journals do).

This proposed law is blatantly unconstitutional and Diane Feinstein can kiss my ass.

This means that I can't even publish them in my home computer, because it is connected to the Internet through our university. (I'm actually not even allowed to give user accounts to non-university people - which would clearly mean also family members...on a Windows machine there obviously wouldn't be such restrictions...)

Since I had no other server in Finland where I could relocate the drugs information pages, they now reside at Lycaeum.

The university apparently is allowed to censor the publications of its students and researchers, and of persons who pay money for their Internet connection.

I have met similar problems as an administrator of ftp.funet.fi, one of the historically most significant FTP servers. It is maintained by FUNet (Finnish University Network). They also banned keeping drugs information there. ftp.funet.fi is funded by the Ministry of Education, and the administrators feared of cuts in funding, if it were to become public knowledge that the MoE is funding drugs information.

Disclaimer: I am personally not a user of any illicit drugs, nor do I recommend their use to anyone. I might personally have some interest in medical use of marihuana, and perhaps also in recreational use of marihuana and some other drugs. I definitely think that the current prohibition laws of many drugs are bad, because they themselves make drugs much worse thing than they would otherwise be.

Censorship is baad, o'kay?

That said, I heartily endorse the PF method. Check out Rhodium's website. Nice formulas and experiences. Or The Hive for fun info about MDMA, AKA ecstacy, AKA Adam.

No government can own your mind. See that it is kept free.

blessings,

That said, I heartily endorse the PF method. Check out Rhodium's website. Nice formulas and experiences. Or The Hive for fun info about MDMA, AKA ecstacy, AKA Adam.

No government can own your mind. See that it is kept free.

blessings,

may i just point out that this response is the very reason that this drug literature MUST exist on the Internet.

Person A claims to have the recipe to make opium. it all sounds very legitimate.

Person B points out that it is only one type of rare poppy that works. where is he finding this information? why lycaeum.org, one of the very sites that the government is attempting to make illegal.

you have to understand that "drug manufacture" rumours are spread all the time. most of them are completely wrong, and unfortunately, many are extremely dangerous if one were to actually try them. though you may argue that the original mis-information could have come from another Internet site, i have found that it is more likely to hear incorrect information through word-of-mouth.

drug information, no make that all information must be free, so that people can make informed, rational decisions.

i know this from real experience. i can't tell you the number of times i've heard people passing dangerous, no, deadly information of how to manufacture MDMA (ecstasy). in fact, a friend of mine was going to attempt to manufacture MDMA based on the directions that he had heard word-of-mouth. he later consulted the Internet, and learned that the method he had learned was in fact a hoax, and ran a very high chance of causing an explosion.

in the end, he found a correct method, and in fact manufactured MDMA sucessfully. that is why he is currently serving jail time, but that's another matter all togther. the fact remains that he would probably be dead right now if it weren't for free drug information on the Internet.

but even if you don't agree with me, and you are so much against drug use that you refuse to even consider the alternatives, consider this:

thistime the government's destruction of free speech does not affect you. however if you let the trend continue, someday it will, and you will be powerless to stop it.

- j

for two reasons.

1) I am a drug using geek. I think it's pretty hypocritical for people to be "anti-drug" and then go out and get hammered on a saturday night. Yes, we geeks really care! Why? Because there is a substantial cross section of geek culture that also participates in recreational drug use. Be that Alcohol, Marijuana, Mushrooms, or whatever. The anti-anti-drug movement has come so far, why stop fighting? Anyone who agrees with me needs to show their true colors and say something about it!!

2) Most importantly, this is a freedom of speech issue. It's illegal to own fireworks where i live, yet you can find all sorts of information about making them and using them on the internet. Why aren't sites like these being banned? Marijuana is legal in several countries around the world (Most noteably, the city of Amsterdam). There is even a bill to allow cultivation there. So - what's the difference between fireworks and drugs? Simple - drugs are unpopular so the politicians think they can get a bill passed to censor sites like the Lycaeum. IT'S STILL CENSORSHIP!!!

I don't care if you're a geek, a hippy, or a fundamentalist christian....this isn't just a drug issue. If you don't fight censorship wherever it rears its ugly head - you'll find that, when it comes time for you to be censored yourself, there's no one left to fight!


FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network

or here: The Lycaeum.

Ephedrine is many things to many people, from 'herbal ecstacy' to decongestant to study aid. It's basically an oral form of adrenaline. The Lycaeum has a FAQ which is very informative.

Ephedrine is many things to many people, from 'herbal ecstacy' to decongestant to study aid. It's basically an oral form of adrenaline. The Lycaeum has a FAQ which is very informative.

It is easier to understand the proliferation of messages that communicate ideas that are contrary to the intent of their proliferators (in other words, people think they're spreading legitimate information but in fact are talking crap) if you see these communications as the result of natural selection rather than conscious creation.

It's the same principle that has allowed us to make much more sense out of the natural world by trying to understand it as the product of evolution, rather than trying to interpret it as the residue of God's Plan.

It is easier to understand the proliferation of messages that communicate ideas that are contrary to the intent of their proliferators (in other words, people think they're spreading legitimate information but in fact are talking crap) if you see these communications as the result of natural selection rather than conscious creation.

It's the same principle that has allowed us to make much more sense out of the natural world by trying to understand it as the product of evolution, rather than trying to interpret it as the residue of God's Plan.

Government doesn't like people with sensitive information doing drugs, because it turns out that (this way, not the reverse) people involved in espionage have a very high propensity, statistically, towards being involved in drugs.

For all other purposes, though, chemical drug testing (urinalysis, hair tests, and so on) is just stupid. Impairment testing is the only sensible option.

http://www.yahooka.com/
http://www.hightimes.com/
http://www.lycaeum.org/
http://marijuana.newscientist.com/
http://www.hemp.net/~ramus
http://www.druglibrary.org/ schaffer/History/whiteb1.htm
http://www.s ptimes.com/News/72699/TampaBay/Stakes_high_in_man_ s_.shtml
http://www.dqc.org/~james/
http://www.november.org/
http://www.pdfa.net/
http://mall.turnpike.net/~jnr/think.htm

The Internet has always produced an overwhelming riot of new connections and fantastic stimulation; it was created in the wake of the Sixties by a bunch of longhairs, among others. Check the Lycaeum for the identity of the plant teacher that our neighbors to the South call "San Ysidro"! ;)

-A very anonymous coward; we're still a very medieval mob, after all :(

And ayahuasca.lycaeum.org is my other site which is a repository for Ayahuasca and Yage info.

* Bi-polar syndrome ("emotional rollercoaster")

A form of depression. As the name indicates, the syndrome consists
of alternations between mania (happiness) and depression (sadness), with
no obvious reason for the cycling up and down. The period of cycling varies
from days to minutes, with the amplitude of the effects eventually dying
down to zero within two weeks or so. Unfortunately, there isn't much one
can do about it except wait it out and enjoy the fun parts, but maybe just
being aware that the depression is chemically induced and will end may help.
Oddly enough, unlike other post-trip phenomena, it appears that this
syndrome does not correlate with dose and this may well happen even
after a non-spectacular low-dose trip.