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That doesn't change the fact that he governed while a majority voted against him.

Uhm... that's almost a given event in any plurality voting system.

If it's imperfect and you believe it should be changed, please feel free to argue for that. To claim it is "illegitimate", however, is simply wrong.

If that happens then the House reps each gets a vote, in several states they don't even have to vote for the candidate the people of the state they represent voted for

Yes. This is the fall-back position in the event of a candidate not getting a majority of electoral votes: the US House of Representatives holds a vote. Unfortunately, your understanding is faulty, and the vote goes to one vote per state with the individual state delegations deciding by whatever means they choose (vote, cards, dice, drunken brawl, what have you) how their state's ONE vote shall go.

Again, is it perfect? No. Could it be amended? Probably. Will it likely be anytime soon? Probably not.

I usually feel very close to the Green Party. I like their stance on many issues (not least the environment!), but the American Green Party insistence on using IRV disappoints me a lot.

We do need a better voting method like Approval and Condorcet, but Instant Runoff Voting is not a good system.

Unfortunately, Cobb puts politics before policies, nice talk before issues. When told about the problems with IRV, he replied that good luck, go out and organize, but IRV is the only alternative voting method that has a base of support, so that what he's going to push.

That's why I ended up endorsing Libertarian candidate Badnarik instead, because Badnarik supports Approval (so he told Slashodt last week).

I usually feel very close to the Green Party. I like their stance on many issues (not least the environment!), but the American Green Party insistence on using IRV disappoints me a lot.

We do need a better voting method like Approval and Condorcet, but Instant Runoff Voting is not a good system.

Unfortunately, Cobb puts politics before policies, nice talk before issues. When told about the problems with IRV, he replied that good luck, go out and organize, but IRV is the only alternative voting method that has a base of support, so that what he's going to push.

That's why I ended up endorsing Libertarian candidate Badnarik instead, because Badnarik supports Approval (so he told Slashodt last week).

Whatever your opinion after either set of debates, why not express your opinion like you never have before...

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

Whatever your opinion after either set of debates, why not express your opinion like you never have before...

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

Whatever your opinion after either set of debates, why not express your opinion like you never have before...

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

Whatever your opinion after either set of debates, why not express your opinion like you never have before...

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

Whatever your opinion after either set of debates, why not express your opinion like you never have before...

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

Well, this article submission was too much (or not enough) pro-whomever for their taste:

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

Well, this article submission was too much (or not enough) pro-whomever for their taste:

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

Well, this article submission was too much (or not enough) pro-whomever for their taste:

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

Well, this article submission was too much (or not enough) pro-whomever for their taste:

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

Well, this article submission was too much (or not enough) pro-whomever for their taste:

In the weeks leading up to the Presidential elections, many Slashdot users as well as some third party candidates (Badnarik) have advocated the use of better voting systems such as Instant Runoff Voting, Approval Voting and Condorcet Voting. There is a new web site which has just started a worldwide campaign to promote such alternatives, and it has just come up with an unexpected endorsement for the US 2004 election. What's much more interesting is a new service which is, as far as I am aware, unique on the web: a MOD of the popular software phpBB allows users not only to post messages like on any other Bulletin Board, but also to create their own polls, with their own choice of candidates, using a variety of voting methods. Users can thus create their own polls, cast their ballots and talk about the results all in the same forum.

American voters should use this unique opportunity to cast the alternative ballot that they will not be able to cast in November, and maybe also create new polls corresponding to other local elections in their states. It would be very interesting to see what the result would be if voters were given the opportunity to voice their true preferences.

IRV is certainly not the best solution.

For other alternatives such as Approval and Condorcet, look here.

Also, you don't need to wait for Kerry/Bush to get elected to cast a Condorcet or Approval ballot!.

IRV is certainly not the best solution.

For other alternatives such as Approval and Condorcet, look here.

Also, you don't need to wait for Kerry/Bush to get elected to cast a Condorcet or Approval ballot!.

You can vote right here, using Approval voting.

There are more Condorcet and Approval polls going on here.
(register)

More about alternative election methods will be posted in the next few weeks here

You can vote right here, using Approval voting.

There are more Condorcet and Approval polls going on here.
(register)

More about alternative election methods will be posted in the next few weeks here

You can vote right here, using Approval voting.

There are more Condorcet and Approval polls going on here.
(register)

More about alternative election methods will be posted in the next few weeks here

You can vote right here, using Approval voting.

There are more Condorcet and Approval polls going on here.
(register)

More about alternative election methods will be posted in the next few weeks here

I do wonder whatever happened to that one guy who wanted to fork Gentoo... did he ever follow thru with his plans?"

He has attracted many people who now are part of a growing community (358 members so far)... That probably will get bigger once a first release comes out.

What I like the most about this new, as yet unnamed distro, compared to Gentoo, is that it is on the path of becoming a truly democratic " distro (a la Debian) with the tools to achieve the goal.