Domain: mozdev.org
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Re:"Lost"
What about when I'm viewing Fark in Moz and middle-clicking (open in new tab) links at a furious pace? Or, even worse, using mouse gestures to drag over 5-10 links and simultaneously open them all in new tabs? In the particular case of Fark, the initial request for each link will go through the fark.com domain (for nav statistics, I suppose), but is immediately forwarded on to another domain.
Really, I guess those requests could be handled at 1 second or, preferably, user-specified intervals. I can't imagine viewing the requested documents (more likely images, if we're being honest here) at a faster pace, anyway. -
Re:Better fix
I understand the joke. The problem is that its just not funny anymore... (although it used to be three years ago)
I haven't had any rogue ActiveX controls even attempt to infect my system since I started running Mozilla
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Re:Active content..."How about encouraging users to use browsers that don't suck [mozilla.org]?"
Sometimes encouragement is not necessary. I installed mozilla on my sister's machine, changed the IE link on the desktop to link to mozilla (but still with the blue 'e' icon) and installed an IE-lookalike skin on mozilla and she hasn't noticed the difference yet. (It's been about a month now.)
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Re: Spellchecker that actually works for Win32
This was posted to the SpellChecker Email List last night (14 Nov 2002). After 2.5 months without a spellchecker for Mozilla on Win32, someone finally released one that works. See http://mozillacafe.org/MozSpell_1.2f_w32.xpi.
Just in case anyone wondered, using the spellchecker from spellchecker.mozdev.org has not worked for Win32 nightly builds, Mozilla 1.1 or 1.2b releases since the end of August. The spellcheck.xpi from Netscape 7 may work for these Linux builds but does not work for Win32. -
Re: Spellchecker that actually works for Win32
This was posted to the SpellChecker Email List last night (14 Nov 2002). After 2.5 months without a spellchecker for Mozilla on Win32, someone finally released one that works. See http://mozillacafe.org/MozSpell_1.2f_w32.xpi.
Just in case anyone wondered, using the spellchecker from spellchecker.mozdev.org has not worked for Win32 nightly builds, Mozilla 1.1 or 1.2b releases since the end of August. The spellcheck.xpi from Netscape 7 may work for these Linux builds but does not work for Win32. -
Re:Mozilla mail / browser
I haven't really tried it, but check out the banner-ad blocking project on MozDev. And banner filtering systems are bad for sites that rely on income from advertising. Plus, it's pretty easy to ignore banner ads (as opposed to popups, which are quite in-your-face; for these, you have a good reason to block them)
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Re:zilla
The most important part of an email is the subject line. Think about it.
When you're done, check out http://spellchecker.mozdev.org/. It's not as active as it could be, and one day it might even be part of the main source tree. Then we might get spellchecking for input forms on web pages. -
Spellchecker for Mozilla
I use Mozilla for my mail. I installed a spellchecker I believe from Mozdev. It's pretty good and can be found here
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you need a Bigger agenda to give you direction
For example, Try joining the Rebel alliance in a fight against the evil empire. Sure, you want to make money and have skills that are in demand, but it's a big world and in the computer universe you are here as much as you are in Khatmandu. and we are talking about the future here right?
Head over to Mozilla.org and scope out the Mozilla Hacker's Getting Started Guide . the Mozilla community works inside of a tool they've created called Bugzilla which is just so great other projects have started using it. Bugzilla lets you follow anyhing you're interested in and even follow around other coders to see what changes they're making. I myself am something of a bugzilla Lurker watching features I'm interested in, it's like the celebrity coders show. The animal book people have done a great thing and open sourced Creating Applications with Mozilla which seems to sum things up pretty good and gets updated frequently as readers point out errors and such. Using the Mozilla environment is great for apps that run anywhere (mostly anywhere) and you can jump in to Mozilla at many different levels javascript to C code. you could create browser addons like those at Mozdev.org or standalone applications. Best of all, when Mozilla and it's Kindred have 80% of the worldwide browser market and IE is only a bit player, you can tell people that you've been a Mozilla Hacker sice 2002 and it isn't new for you.
Help us Obi Wan, you're our only hope...there's more to a job skill than the money you make with it.
May the Source-Force be with you!
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you need a Bigger agenda to give you direction
For example, Try joining the Rebel alliance in a fight against the evil empire. Sure, you want to make money and have skills that are in demand, but it's a big world and in the computer universe you are here as much as you are in Khatmandu. and we are talking about the future here right?
Head over to Mozilla.org and scope out the Mozilla Hacker's Getting Started Guide . the Mozilla community works inside of a tool they've created called Bugzilla which is just so great other projects have started using it. Bugzilla lets you follow anyhing you're interested in and even follow around other coders to see what changes they're making. I myself am something of a bugzilla Lurker watching features I'm interested in, it's like the celebrity coders show. The animal book people have done a great thing and open sourced Creating Applications with Mozilla which seems to sum things up pretty good and gets updated frequently as readers point out errors and such. Using the Mozilla environment is great for apps that run anywhere (mostly anywhere) and you can jump in to Mozilla at many different levels javascript to C code. you could create browser addons like those at Mozdev.org or standalone applications. Best of all, when Mozilla and it's Kindred have 80% of the worldwide browser market and IE is only a bit player, you can tell people that you've been a Mozilla Hacker sice 2002 and it isn't new for you.
Help us Obi Wan, you're our only hope...there's more to a job skill than the money you make with it.
May the Source-Force be with you!
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More porn-related addons for Mozilla
Pornzilla Modifications - stealth profiles, image zoom, view (but don't download) all linked images, go to next/previous thumbnail gallery or image.
Leech - download all links from a page that have an extension in your list of extensions to download. The author didn't figure out how to send referrers with the requests, which is annoying because many porn sites require a correct referrer header, but there are several workarounds included with Leech. -
Re:Like they would tell.
No matter if they have, no true Mac user would ever say so, and you know it.
No, sometimes simple Aqua dialog boxes seem slower than a comparable interface in MSWin or KDE or Gnome (even Enlightenment). However, I'm noticing that the slow ones are Carbon based, and I *suspect* that it is legacy event-loop code for MacOS-9 yielding for the cooperative-multitasking OS compatibility. Other things, like ChimChim, exceed your expectations.
The thing I can say about MacOS-X is that it is comparable to the performance of my Athlon 1600, but it runs at 667MHz for 4-5 hours untethered. If I wanted blistering fast at all costs, I'd skip the MSWin crap, and run Solaris 9 on a Sun Blade 2000 dual 1GHz UltrasparcIII. THOSE puppies are FAST! You wouldn't know you're running crappy sloppy over-inherited over-threaded Java classes for your app's GUI interface.
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mod this up
Use the Useragent Toolbar for Mozilla and set it to show you as being on Internet Explorer on WinXP for when you come across these sites which hate Leenooks and Netscape.
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See this [mod up]
"that string would be: tSi Mozilla/5_EXPERIMENTAL (AOS4.1 ALPHA; PPC)"
It's probably a fake. The Useragent Toolbar makes it easy to fake UAstrings in Mozilla. I spoofed a UA that I was on Mosaic 0.x on SunOS once... and gave a webmaster quite a fright
I'm not saying there isn't some hacked together port of Mozilla for AmigaOS out there, after all someone set up this page, which has been there for a while and therefore lends me to the idea that someone out there is having a go at it. -
See this [mod up]
"that string would be: tSi Mozilla/5_EXPERIMENTAL (AOS4.1 ALPHA; PPC)"
It's probably a fake. The Useragent Toolbar makes it easy to fake UAstrings in Mozilla. I spoofed a UA that I was on Mosaic 0.x on SunOS once... and gave a webmaster quite a fright
I'm not saying there isn't some hacked together port of Mozilla for AmigaOS out there, after all someone set up this page, which has been there for a while and therefore lends me to the idea that someone out there is having a go at it. -
Re:The one thing it doesn't do
I've never walked into a Fortune 500 company and seen Mozilla running on a PC. Never.
Maybe they were all using the IE Theme.
-Chris
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Re:How about https?
if you have that problem, you might be interested in just changing your user agent string.
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Entering HTML in a form
What you're looking for is over here.
Of course, it's a proprietary solution. A much better option is to implement a similar editing tool in JS/DOM that works in both Moz and IE6+ (Maybe Opera 7 if it actually includes some respectable DOM support) -
Platform
Mozilla is a platform. It's possible to write all the GUI stuff with XUL and encapsulate C++ code in components that would be called from the GUI.
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Opera's appearanceI've tried Opera on Windows 2000 Pro, FreeBSD 4.6 and NetBSD 1.6
.. when I used it on *BSD, only the linux version was available and it had a really 'chunky' appearance which didn't match the rest of the KDE environment (the default one or the themes I tried). I know they have 2 versions of the browser available : a statically linked QT one and a dynamically linked one. I've tried both but no luck. Other than that it's a great, fast browser which I'd definetly like to purchase.That being said, as each day passes it's going to be harder and harder to pry Mozilla from my cold dead hands, especially with such great add-on software.
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Re:Why I won't switch from IE (yet).
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Re:Why I won't switch from IE (yet).
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der...
of course that link should be this one for GoogleBar....
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Re:Missing the most important feature...
... or try the Googlebar.
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Re:Reopen tabs onload
For Mozilla, try the multizilla extension. It also has some miscillaneous tab enchancments that are god like
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Re:Why I won't switch from IE (yet).She was talking about the Google toolbar, and not searching Google. It appears that the current Mozilla Google toolbar does not contain the useful "highlight and jump to first occurance" feature that the IE Google toolbar contains (the little highlighters with words next to them on the right).
Personally, I find that I can't live without my mouse-gestures, so I wind up using Mozilla as may daily browser now; plus when I tried the Google toolbar I didn't find it to be that useful.
As an endnote, I tried installing the Googlebar on my copy of Mozilla 1.2 beta, and it didn't work. Although it appears that in the process of uninstalling it I screwed something up, so I'm going to get to reinstall Mozilla anyway (yay...).
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Google toolbar for MozillaSecondly, I don't know about this Google toolbar replacement thing. Google is pretty much my sole search engine, though I wouldn't mind having dictionary and translate buttons. I'm not convinced that Phoenix's replacement can compare (Mozilla's couldn't.)
I don't know what Phoenix has built in, but a Google Toolbar clone for Mozilla is available here.
From the web page: The Googlebar project was initially created to address the widespread desire in the mozilla community for the Google toolbar to support Netscape 7/Mozilla [...]. Our current release emulates all of the basic search functionality of the toolbar
Judging from the screenshots they look quite similar.
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Google toolbar for MozillaSecondly, I don't know about this Google toolbar replacement thing. Google is pretty much my sole search engine, though I wouldn't mind having dictionary and translate buttons. I'm not convinced that Phoenix's replacement can compare (Mozilla's couldn't.)
I don't know what Phoenix has built in, but a Google Toolbar clone for Mozilla is available here.
From the web page: The Googlebar project was initially created to address the widespread desire in the mozilla community for the Google toolbar to support Netscape 7/Mozilla [...]. Our current release emulates all of the basic search functionality of the toolbar
Judging from the screenshots they look quite similar.
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Shunning the Mac...
For some moronic reason, they're not porting Phoenix because they think that Chimera is supposed to be the one and only "lite" browser for OS X.
However, there were already Galeon and K-Meleon for Linux and Windows, so why are they working on and releasing Phoenix at all?
Anyway, some guy did a quick and dirty 'port' of Phoenix to OS X - he changed two line of code, then built it. Almost too easy; maintaining an OS X port would be trivial.
I really do wonder why the Phoenix project leaders have been so insistent on shunning the Mac... -
Re:Convince Me
I assume you have never used tabbed browsing. Once you are used to it, you don't want anything else.
Especially when tabs are comined with mouse gestures, things become interesting, since you only have to move your hand a little bit to open a tab, close a tab or go to another tab. -
broken link, fixed link..
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Re:Look at them go!
What a fast release cycle this has, certainly compared to Mozilla!
Phoenix is young and moving fast. The release cycles have averaged a couple weeks. Development is progressing really fast, though. That's because XUL is an extremely easy and fast environment in which to build applications and the two or three developers building Phoenix are the top XUL hackers on the planet (the guys that invented XUL). The Mozilla application framework has also seriously matured, making it much easier to build these kinds of appa. Scores of great reusable widgets, an awesome rendering engine, a top notch neyworking library, and a great security library give you all the pieces you need to assemble a variety of web-enabled apps. Check out mozdev.org for dozens of great XUL-based projects.
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Googlebar for Mozilla/Netscape 7
googlebar
I tried it on Phoenix 0.2 and it worked. Not sure if it will on the newer versions. I heard there are problems with installing it on certain platforms as well. -
Re:Missing the most important feature...
...Google toolbar! I'm helpless without it.
You get one built in and you can populate it with about 150 additional search engines by going to mozdev.org and installing additional mycroft plugins (they're very tiny, give it a try).
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Re:OT: Mozilla has no up button
I suggest you install Diggler if you want to navigate to parent directories.
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Re:So this doesn't have a pretty GUI?
I am not running IE on RedHat Linux (although as a web developer I wish that I easily could). It is just a Mozilla theme. It may be downloaded here: http://themes.mozdev.org/themes/ie.html
The only memory intensive applications I use are Mozilla, OpenOffice & the Gimp. Performance is not an issue (on my Pentium III 450 MHz with 384 MB RAM). Services such as Apache and MySQL also run well.
The way it looks is purely for aesthetic reasons. Something new and different. Something fun to play with, whilst learning where to put themes/skins, how to tweak them, etc. -
My bank works fine... now
CIBC (Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce) had some issues for a long time and I was quick to blame it as being their fault. However, after many months, someone commented on the CIBC bug in Bugzilla that it was working in a newer version of Mozilla. So, as it turned out, it was actually a problem in Mozilla's SSL support, not in CIBC's site. Go figure.
And for everyone who is complaining that Mozilla can't change the useragent... Yes it can. You can either set the following pref in your prefs.js:
user_pref("general.useragent.override", "fake agent string");
Or install the following toolbar widget thing to change it on the fly (very handy!):
UABar -
Re:Who cares what they say they support?
Might be useful: user-agent masquerading in a simple to use toolbar for mozilla
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PGP use not hard to achieve
It should be relatively easy to get people to start using PGP to encrypt all of their internal e-mails. So long as you can switch everyone to Mozilla or Netscape as their e-mail program of choice, then the Enigmail plugin makes using GPG or PGP encryption a breeze, and it can be easily set up to automatically ask for your password every time. That would be the only difficult part: Getting people to choose decent passwords and remembering them...but if you're in IT, you've faced that problem before.
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Re:anyone else experiencing this problem?
Use Pie menus. Up & right, then down closes the current tab.
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Re:Question about typeaheadfind
Whilst it's great that stuff like this is being implemented, is anyone actually working on making a point and click interface to active/deactivate functionality rather than having to get users to resort to deleting or editing files?
Get multizilla. Besides a great tabbing interface, it gives you a quick option button that opens a menu containing "open preference editor", where you can edit all user preferences with a mouse click. -
Re:Link prefetching
Yes, that would be a nice feature. You can also accelerate your pr0n browsing with mouse gestures. For instance, the Right-Up-Left gesture over one or more links (read "thumbnails") will open all those links in new tabs. Very nice.
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Re:My Review
Hiyas, Pave! Good trolling!
Folks, this is a rip of the preface of the book.
Have a look for yourself and then mod this troll down. -
Re:Current Applications?
You can browse different categories of Mozilla projects at MozDev.
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Online book
In true open source fashion, the book is also available in online form at http://books.mozdev.org/chapters/
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Re:Don't click on Slashdots book link
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Re:Don't click on Slashdots book link
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Re:Employ him!
your internet browser turns into a pacman clone
Not that that would be too particularly innovative. -
Re:MozillaPeople responding seem to be missing a crucial point: I am not talking about a web application here. I am talking about using the mozilla framework to develop a local application. This is actually how Mozilla, including Mail, Messenger and Composer, is developed.
If you haven't looked at it closely, don't knock it. Take a look at Creating Applications with Mozilla, from O'Reilly (of course.)
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PGP support in Windows mail clients
I'm on some mailing lists where people like to GPG (GNU's PGP clone) sign email, and our LUG have had a couple of GPG keysignings.
So, being a OSS supporting Windows user, I thought I'd try this out.
My normal mail client is Outlook Express (don't complain, when used by someone with a clue there's no more security risk than with any other mailer), and the method that PGP plugs into Outlook Express is digusting. There's a GPG Outlook Express plugin that suffers from the same problem. Basically, when a message windows is loaded, the decoder automatically copies all the text from the window into a buffer, runs the text through PGP, and then pastes the results back into the window. In the case of the version of PGP I tried, in 8pt font.
This also doesn't help when you have a Windows mailer that doesn't support MIME types correctly (Evolution especially likes to send mail with the PGP block as an 'attachment', which basically means your message appears blank in OE with two attachments). No PGP verification there.
I hear Outlook isn't much better; Outlook's IMAP support isn't as polished as OE's, and I guess they don't really want to make it better at the expense of Exchange licenses.
What's the answer? Enigmail. You have to use Mozilla Mail, of course, but that's something that can be adjusted to (and if it's too hard to adjust, it can be customized in XUL of course.) But it seems to be the only way to get correct behaivour for PGP email verification in Windows. And it's all OSS, too.
That said, it didn't handle decryption at all. But I was running a beta on a nightly with a 2 day old GPG build, etc. You get what you pay for.
What would I like to see happen? Outlook Express to become a bit more modular, with actual support for PGP (even the free PGP Home edition would be better than nothing). Or Mozilla Mail evolve a little bit more so I can tolerate using it as my mail client ;)