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Mozilla 1.2 Beta Released
nberardi writes "Mozilla 1.2 Beta is out. Typeahead now works on Mac and Java now works on Jaguar. On Linux, the classic theme now picks up GTK native theme. See the release notes for more info."
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If only there was a theme that used the OS native widgets, without the ugly 'classic' icons...
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Note that if you're using the pinstripe theme, you've got to use the one made for nightlies.
I don't know why.
First thing I noticed.
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seems to mean that if you're reading page 1 of a multi-page article, page 2 will be loaded in the background. nice!
Mozilla's binaries still depend on gtk 1.x, however when compiling from source you can tell it to use gtk2. I don't know how stable that is, though...
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Type ahead find is great. Been using it since Moz 1.2 alpha. The neat thing is that you can type a search phrase, and you can search again with ctrl-G. My only suggestion would be to have type ahead and find searches appear in a history combobox in the find window.
Type ahead find works on Mac Mozilla and works correctly with IME.
Linux Mozilla (in the Classic theme) will pick up the native GTK theme and HTML form controls now pick up the native theme on winXP.
Mozilla now supports link prefetching; see the Link Prefetching FAQ for details.
Mozilla Mail includes a new "filter after the fact" capability so users can create a filter and then run that filter on already downloaded mail. Filter logging has also been implemented.
A long requested feature, show toolbars as text/icons/both, has been implemented.
You can launch the browser with a bookmark group as your start page. This loads several pages into tabs at startup.
Java compatability with Mac OS 10.2 (Jaguar) has been repaired.
Wow. Do we REALLY need a story every time a new Mozilla comes out?
The text/icons/both thing should have been done LONG ago.
TWW
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XFT support on Linux! Now we can get cool anti-aliased fonts on Linux!
You must compile from source with --enable-xft and need fontconfig & xft2 package from www.fontconfig.org and of course freetype2 from www.freetype.org
Great thnx to Chris Blizzard for this!
Oh btw now HTML for controls & scrollbars use your native GTK theme widgets when classic theme is chosen.
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Moz 1.2 works like a champ on my iMac under Jaguar. 1.1 was a little sluggish, but 1.2 seems to have corrected that and then some. Startup times are now nearly as fast as IE 5.2.2, and Moz is and hopefully will continue to be much less crash prone than IE. This is in and of itself amazing, considering it is 1.2 BETA.
Great job to all who work on this effort. It is much appreciated by many in the computing field.
Cheers!
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moz development has been considered sluggish by many a few months ago... now that they have the infrastructure right, they do release early and often. Nice :)
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Too bad I'm still stuck to 1.0.1-r1 on my gentoo distro...
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1.2 is really worth installing just for the Type-Ahead Find feature. It's one of those "how did I ever manage without it" features, and a punch in the stomach of anyone who says free software isn't innovating. This feature almost obsoletes the use of a mouse while surfing (well, almost). You see a link you want to follow, called "Click here". So you type "cl", and that link is marked. Now press enter to follow it. So simple, yet so efficient.
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One question I have though - does it support GTK 1.2, or 2.0 (including the anti-aliasing fonts feature)?
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Some of the themes I tried with GTK and Mozilla this morning crashed Mozilla on startup. Others were okay. I guess there are still a few bugs to work out there.
Remember all those offline browsers and 'modem accelerators' that sucked up your modem bandwidth by downloading contantly, spidering every link on every page you visited?
While the Mozilla project is an incredible piece of work, I have to question this feature. It appears that they've designed it so that a page designer or webmaster decides what is appropriate for prefetching or not. Still, if used inappropriately, this feature could lead to more information being transmitted across the internet that is either discarded or unwanted. In a worst-case scenario, an inexperienced web designer might routinely run into his bandwidth cap or unintentionally force users who have bandwidth caps to exhaust their allowance.
If you can only download 3GB per month over your cable modem, do you really want the designer of a page deciding that your browser needs to spend time downloading ads or useless images?
For some people, this could be really useful. For others, it could be a real pain. Team-Moz, if you have any consideration at all, please adjust the default configuration of Mozilla so that this feature is turned OFF.
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Get the latest nightly build here!
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With the two rapid releases of Phoenix and Mozilla, with Netscape (the browser) being pushed by AOL, and with Chimera popular on the Mac, IE may have more users, but aside from being more stable and configurable, Moz is now steadily heading for a 1-1 user:browser ratio. Hopefully, this will result in an extremely customized browsing experience.
May we never see th
XT??? HELLO???
everyone forgot about Xt which works beautifully, and decided to make their own widget sets. this is really annoying when trying to embed Xt stuff into applications that use gtk or qt.
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user_pref ("accessibility.typeaheadfind", false);
Or, to remove it completely, find all files in your installation subdirectories that match *typeaheadfind*, and delete those files.
Whilst it's great that stuff like this is being implemented, is anyone actually working on making a point and click interface to active/deactivate functionality rather than having to get users to resort to deleting or editing files?
If it's already there, for gods sake, why on earth do they insist on giving you these contrived instructions on how to deactivate it?
If the aim of Mozilla is to get a sizeable userbase and encourage developers to avoid writing for IE only then the first thing they should do is make it easy for the common computer user to do this sort of stuff without having to resort to editing text files.
Once they have to do that, then you lose and IE will continue to reign.
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Ok, I've endured not being able to access the BBC site since it crashes my machine everytime. Now I can't access 'My Yahoo' anymore. Was able to up until today. (I can still access www.yahoo.com).
I'm guessing the problem is java related. Can anybody else access MyYahoo running Mozilla? Does this beta resolve some of the issues with java crashing the Mozilla browser?
Since Phoenix (my default browser, as Mozilla is a hog) is built from the Mozilla tree, its latest nightly also has the GTK look. Time to rpm -e galeon.
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open up 3 tabs, right click on the 2nd tab (middle one) and choose 'Close other tabs' in the menu. for some reason, it doesn't seem to work anymore.
oh well, im going back to Mozilla 1.1
So what happens when the greedy web master decides to add "rel=prefetch" to his tags for banners?
Joseph?
In fact, the bugzilla item which typeahead find sprang from was named "implement typeahead find (like Emacs isearch)".
and only if explicitly specified, and if nothing else is going on (i.e. if you have an active download, prefetch is disbabled).
Startup time was a few seconds, compared to the minute+ for earlier versions, and it feels really smooth and much more Mac-like.
Is the text anti-aliasing non-native, though? What I'm typing now in this edit box looks really fuzzy.
Thanks to the Mozilla Mac team for making things work this well. I remember back in the M13 days, when not only did startup take 5-10 minutes (with everything as proportionally slow) but the developers didn't even think there was a problem! I'm going to stick with this for a few days and see if it replaces IE in my daily use.
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
When will native widgets find thier way to the Windows versions?. Currently, I moved to Phoenix 0.3 because the Mozilla interface seems to lag on my hardware ( P2-366, 160MB ).
Great feature, but if its use becomes widespread, look for more of your favorite sites to buckle and fold under financial pressure from the increased consumption of bandwidth.
They're releasing slower now, a lot slower. It's just more people care about it. Back in the milestone days you'd get a new release every month or so, now it's about every 2-3 months.
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Look this Bugzilla Bug 70812 [meta] mozilla stops accepting keyboard input...
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70812
Its Target Milestone is 1.0.1, but nothing has changed in 1.2 beta. What a mess.
I really like the typeahead find. The great thing is that not only can it apply to links (just by typing) but it can also apply to text across the page just by typing "/" before you type what you are looking for, with Accell-G going to the next match.
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definately the fastest build i've used to date. running on mac os x jaguar. get it if you don't got it already.
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Works fine for me with the new release. PS my yahoo looks good as well. NB I do not really use it but it recognizes me and everything :)
Here are the instructions
I have it working with Mandrake 9 and Mozilla 1.0.
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The binary of Mozilla that you have supports antialiasing right now.
.ttf's in the directory "~/.fonts".
Go here and follow the instructions near the top of the page. Provided you have a recent version of FreeType2 on your system and some TrueType fonts for it to find (you have to uncomment a line or two in your unix.js file and tell it where to look), you'll be using antialiased fonts in no time. It looks great, and I wish they'd do it by default. One other thing--you may want to set unhinted to "false", as fonts appear to render better that way. Experiment with your system, though.
I've gotten this to work with the latest Mozilla and an otherwise fresh install of Redhat 8, plus a few
In fact, the Mozilla UI redesign project, Phoenix, is planning to have fewer options (in the UI) than Mozilla, rather than more. Instead they will focus on making Phoenix "do the right thing" out of the box.
Too many options just confuses ordinary users. Of course, that is only true for options in the UI. You can have as many options in obscure text files as you want, only nerds are going to see those.
In my opinion they should have a "Super advanced options" button hidden somewhere, which gave an UI for all the options, for nerds only. Like the customize fascility in Emacs.
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Chimera's great, I use it, but it has zero speed advantage over OmniWeb. Nil. Goosegg. And in my opinion, OmniWeb looks better.
OmniWeb wouldn't know a cascading style sheet if it jumped up and bit it on the ass. I constantly find errors in its interpretation of stylesheets. I find OmniWeb's rendering to be substandard compared Chimera. Save the 25 bucks and use Chimera.
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Hi guys, Does anyone know how much memory this will take to run on OS X Darwin ? I have heard that Mozzilla is huge on OS X and I am concerned. Thanks.
Still digging, but it won't even start? Sheesh.
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This is a really good point. If you land on a malicious website, they could make you download extra stuff you don't know about anyway.
I don't know if the banner companies actually uses referer, but if not checking for it might be an easy way for them to combat such abuse.
I don't think that's very fair to say. Note, that this bug has at least 8 bugs that are dependencies for this to be fixed. It's called a missed goal. It happens from time to time.
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ping -f 255.255.255.255 # if only
Alright alright, if you really want to disable it, the way to do it is described here. Requires some prefs.js entry though.
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Put the URL into another browser window and jump directly.
WTF?
Absolute statements are never true
I really have to say that I find the recent development of Mozilla very inspiring as it brings completely new, unique features to the users. First came integrated popup and advertisement blocking. A simple but effective feature. Then came Type Ahead. Then came link prefetching. Now, in what time span?
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I don't know about you, but at least my opinion is that the browser software has suffered from some serious stagnation during the past years. Since Internet Explorer 4.0 and its CSS and "DHTML" (mostly Javascript+CSS) support, I haven't seen much development in the browsers at all. Opera was innovative with mouse gestures, but I think the browser that truly turns this stagnation of browser features that's often limited to things like "slightly better CSS support", etc is Mozilla. I'm not even sure how it's possible for the team to bring so many new features in such a short time. Is it a side effect from being open source with browser enthusiasts working on it day and night? Is it "just" because a very flexible and well written code base? An efficient organization of the mozilla developers? A combination?
IMHO, the changes in Mozilla from a late version such as 1.0 are surely larger (at least more useful) than the changes since Internet Explorer 4.0. Each new version is right now bringing lots of new features. Perhaps that will change in the future, but I'll enjoy it while it lasts for sure.
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I know iCab has this feature already, for about 3 or 4 releases now. I also thought it was really slick, until I saw the first patch release to keep it from pre-fetching "logout" links. (Oops.) It seems like Mozilla has circumvented that problem, by requiring the designer to provide the hints. OTOH, iCab did have a GUI to [dis|en]able this feature. I think Mr. Clauss would do well to see how this feature goes over with the Mozilla crowd, and incorporate the "hinting" idea if it works. Pre-fetch with good hints would be a boon to my wife and I - we only have 56k at home. I would hope that I could add rel="prefetch" to A tags as well as LINK tags, too.
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I noticed pre-caching when I read the release notes last night. In my opinion it is a major security danger.
A lot of police investigations go by the browser cache to see where you have browsed. Now you are giving control over to the cache to someone else.
It would be simple to put a link in the page source to some kiddie porn or other illegal information. You would never see the link on the page and would have no way of knowing what had been inserted in your browser cache until the police inform you of how long you are going to be in jail. Sure, it is possible that the police won't use the browser cache as proof of guilt (don't bet on it), but that requires a lot of trust. And if they want to be technical about it, it is technically illegal to possess that information, no matter how it was acquired.
And the gain isn't at all proportional to the risk. No pre-caching is done except on sites specifically engineered for it. That means next to none.
Maybe delaying a release and all new features for a short time to fix existing bugs would be worth it. My $.02.
After 5 years of using Eudora I switched over to Mozilla. I really like the mail program and had the quick launch on. However, when the program crashed one day, I started it up again and couldn't access my mail, my settings, anything. I found out there were many people in the same situation as me on the newsgroup.
Trying to get the mail back is a royal pain in the ass, there is no tool for it, you have to edit all the text by hand and try and figure out what the files are supposed to be like. Right now I can't access all that mail and have gone back to Eudora. I just don't have the time to spend the hours and hours to learn how to recreate all these setting files from scratch.
My personal suggestion: wait until there is a better mail recovery option for it, or know exactly what files you need to back up and do it often. Mozilla mail is not ready yet and it was a costly lesson not just for me but for many others.
> > Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled.
> WTF?
The war Bugzilla vs Slashdot sadly had this unfortunate outcome. We will have to live with it. But I'm sure you'll find a way to circumvent the problem. But then again, you're circumventing Bugzilla's access protection and you'll surely be a DMCA case.
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I couldn't find it in the release notes but until Mozilla implements NTLM it's a no go in a lot of organizations who rely on it for promptless authentication of users. There was mention in the past that it was being worked on but nothing so far...
You can share bookmarks amoung all your installs of Mozilla, Phoenix, and probably other Gecko browsers (untested). All you do is add the following command to your prefs.js file:
o okmarks.html");
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.file", "C:\\Documents and Settings\\userdude\\Application Data\\Mozilla\\Profiles\\default\\wx4vqyna.slt\\b
In addition, you can share plugins by adding the following line to your environment. Her is an example of what I did on my Windows box:
MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH = "C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\Share\Plugin" (in Environment Variables on Win2k)
Really helps so you don't have to redo plugins all the time and you can share one bookmark file for all!
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It is way faster than 1.0 on my Linux box. Great!
Well, this is almost true,
please vote for this bug (99 votes so-far, lets make it 100)
so that me and anyone else who uses microsoft proxy server 2 or any NTLM authenticating proxy can use mozilla. (this is probably a few million people, and a lot of corporations)
This bug has been there since 2000-01-11, and won't make 1.2, hopefully it'll make 1.3 alpha 1!!!
thank God the internet isn't a human right.
i tried to find a way to move my mozilla mail and adress book from mozilla to evolution (now the default mail app in redhat 8.0) and could not find a way to do it.
most of the websites about migrating to evolution discuss windows/outlook, or windows/mozilla, not linux/mozilla.
I guess since it's open source I should get off my ass and write a conversion script?
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If you don't believe GUI innovation happens, imagine if X had an enforced toolkit. It would be Athena, in black and white, with this 1-bit color so written into it that it would be impossible to remove, and everybody would marvel at the fact that you could set it to inverse video and all applications would agree. And defenders would claim that the fact that only the middle mouse button makes the scrollbars move was a *feature*. And any intelligent people would be laughing X off the planet!
Meanwhile, despite it's problems and pretty stupid design even for when it was invented, X is able to replicate interfaces designed 15 or more years after it was invented. This is because of the one intelligent decision they made, which was to keep the GUI widgets out of it!
Now X has problems. There really should be high-level graphics, at least similar to PostScript. Though also complex, it is far less complex than toolkit interfaces, and perhaps more importantly the set of graphics calls needed has been pretty stable for about 20 years. It may even make sense to add calls to "draw a nice raised box" or "clear this to the flat background color" which would do about 99% of what people want "themes" to do.
Also there is a bit of "toolkit" inside X: the "window manager" (even though a seperate process, but the communication protocols are there, and I know for a fact that it takes more code to communicate with the window manager than it would take to draw the window borders and handle moving and raising the windows myself). This also needs to be removed.
But I am serious that putting any kind of "toolkit" interface into the system in a very very bad idea.
That's been outstanding for most of a year now, which is inexcusable for a major bug that causes data loss and crashes. The Mozilla team still has way too many "don't do that" items in the release notes.
Unless this thing gets cleaned up, it's never going to get market share. Adding additional features of very marginal utility won't help. Could AOL use Mozilla as their standard browser? No way. It's got to just work.
Is this a new W3C standard? I wasn't able to find any references from the page you pointed to or from a quick search on google.
So is this an implementation of an existing W3C standard or is it an example of an evil browser deliberately breaking standards compliance?
Mmmm.. Donuts
It sounds good in theory, but once you use you realize that pages have far more links than you thought. A typical page can have 20 or 50 links, only 2-4 of which you would be interested in prefetching. Just look around on this page for a good example. It ends up furiously downloading pages, movies etc for as much as your connection can bear, and it's not good for anyone.
The Mozilla approach could actually work. If any designers ever decide to use it.
No, this is a different thing. This just uses FreeType2, not XFT2. XFT2 support was only checked in last week, so there's no way you have it working with Mozilla 1.0.
XFT2 renders slightly differently from FreeType2 (XFT2 renders better, IMHO), and, for those with LCD screens, supports subpixel antialiasing, which Mozilla's Freetype2 does not. Fontconfig allows different programs to use the same configuration, too, unlike Mozilla's Freetype2 support.
To get something done, a committee should consist of no more than three persons, two of them absent.
Maybe I'm missing the standard for it (I'm not on the bleeding edge of things), but I was looking at the HTML 4.01 link rel types and can't find "preload". Fortunately, according to the FAQ, "next" will do just fine.
This is a not nit-pick, but with all the touting of how 100% standards compliant Mozilla is, I'm wondering what the philosophy is on extending the standard, if "preload" isn't in some later HTML standard that I don't yet know about us.
This now concludes our broadcast day.
Is it just me, or does typeahead find have some really strange behaviors? I just d/led 1.2beta and I'm trying it out, and it seems like typeahead find successfully finds about half the occurrences of word patterns, and I can't even figure out if this is detereministic or not. For example, in the article here, I tried to find "moz" and kept pressing F3 to cycle and it was missing quite a few occurrences of the word "Mozilla" which is all over that page. Is there something I'm missing about how this feature is supposed to work?
Last I heard, the general Mozilla project attitutde about documenting the preferences was that if you don't know what they are, you shouldn't mess with them. As a highly techincal user, I myself would beg to differ. Failing to document all of these options in one place is a cop-out, and their excuse is pure arrogance.
If I'm wrong about this, and there is complete documentation on all the prefs files, I'd love to know about it.
Wow, someone got Linux/Mozilla running on their Atari Jaguar?
Makes sense, what with the way people tinker with their Dreamcasts and X-Boxes...
Score:4 for *that*? I mean, I thought it was kind of cute or I wouldn't have written it, but...
Moderation on Slashdot is a little whacky.
Oh, what really gets my goat is when I post to some post saying "this post deserves to be modded up", and some whimsical moderator mods the "mod up" post up *instead of the parent*. I remember getting a Score:4 saying that the parent post (Score:1) should be modded up.
May we never see th
I agree that Chimera ("Navigator," officially) is a terrific Mozilla browser for OS X, but we have a lot of choices these days.
Chimera is still pretty sparse on features. I use the nightlies, and run into a fair number of buggy builds. But it's quick, and sure looks like an OS X app. I use it far more than anything else.
KevinG, the guy who did the Pinstripe skin for Mozilla, was nice enough to compile Phoenix 0.3 for OS X. It's just an experiment, not part of the regular project. But damn if it doesn't work, and it has some very cool features. Even *more* OS X choices:
http://www.kmgerich.com/misc.html
This OS X build introduced me to Phoenix, which is now running on my Linux box. Kevin's page says his OS X build requires Jaguar, but I'm using it with 10.1.5 just fine.
Mozilla 1.2b feels very stable on OS X. It's not as fast as Chimera, nor is it as consistent with the Mac human interface standards. But it doesn't suck, and some users like working from within a suite. I know plenty of OS X guys who are more comfortable with Mozilla's mail than Mail.app. It's a matter of preference.
To me, Netscape 7.0 is heavy and gaudy. It has a spellcheck app, however, and isn't a bad choice for those who rely on the Netscape/Mozilla suite for email.
As for Omniweb, it's a great browser. A few more features than Chimera in its current state of development, though don't think it renders as well. Speed is a toss-up.
Every OS X user's needs are different. It's a great time to explore the platform, however. There's a browser for everyone. Run whatever you prefer, and support the community which surrounds it.
Thanks to all the developers who make my online experience more enjoyable. Your work isn't taken for granted.
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Leech seems to install properly only if you run it as root. (It wanted my to have write access to /usr/local/mozilla/chrome dir.)
It doesn't work as a user. Weird.
1.0.1 and 1.2 are different branches. See the Mozilla roadmap.
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I care very little about how a product looks...
I care quite a lot about how a product WORKS.
The stuff Pinkerton and the other Mac guys are doing is really great, but i'm very disappointed that Mozilla has decided to not offer TalkBack support (crash reporting) under OS X.
:-/
Now, every time the browser crashes (not very often, mind you), i just say, "Well, that will never be fixed." and restart it.
Bleh.
Moderators need an additional choice: "Karma Whore" for people who cut-and-paste articles as their comments!
Or maybe more general idea can work better: language extension mechanism, like PostgreSQL has got. So, developer will add their languages as they like.
Less is more !
I wonder if GTK Mozilla is GPLized or not. Any idea?
Less is more !
Does typeahead work on FreeBSD?
and no user interface to turn it off. Hey, doesn't anybody on the Mozilla project use a modem? This is so boneheaded. Sure it's a cool feature, but to have it set as a default? What are they thinking?
I'd love to know how to get it working for Linux. I tried suggestions found in bugzilla, but no dice in 1.1.
.8 or so...
In my office, I can't hear the PC beep. I'd like it to work through the speakers, if possible.
Otherwise, I've not had complaints, and I've been using Moz since
There also appears to be a View Selection Source option now. So I can highlight a section of a document and view just that HTML source -- very handy for development.
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The scrolling behavior of the arrow and page up/down keys seems to have changed too.
Used to be able to simply scroll through the page with these keys (nicer than having to keep a hand on the mouse while reading).
Now these keys seem to behave differently depending on where you are within a page. Sometimes it seems to move a 'paragraph' at a time. Sometimes a line at a time. Sometimes scrolls from the 'banner' section at the top directly to the bottom with 1 down-arrow.
What's up with this, and can I disable it without losing type-ahead find?
Posted from my Android phone. Oh, I can change this? There, that's better...
Is there any way to import Chimera bookmarks (XML) into Mozilla (HTML)? I did the obvious (Import bookmarks from mozilla and selected my bookmarks.xml file from the Chimera path) but that didn't work...
TIA
Eric
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Wow! Who knew that old Atari console could one day run Java? This is kinda like the C# port I'm working on for the TI-99/4A.
You'd think they should have found time to replace that awful (windows) splashscreen by now? :)
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Is Mozilla working on a print preview funciton in the mail program?
How can I find out?
They already have one for the browser and I think it would be really handy.
According to this document: The latest documentation of netscape prefs can be found here.
Unfortunately, according to the release notes, they still stubbornly refuse to use CSS stylesheets that aren't served with a mime type of text/css if you're rendering a "strict" main document. That's lovely for supporting standards compliance, I'm sure, but alas I still can't see the information on a vast number of web sites out there, from major companies to user pages on some popular ISPs who should know better. This is a Very Bad Thing, and whichever overly petty member of the development team chose to do it (and it must have been an active decision) should perhaps consider that this is not the way to gain a user base.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
If you just start typing "moz...", typeahead will only find text that's part of a link. If you type "/moz..." instead, it will find any text. (Apologies if you already knew this.)
I installed XUL Planet's Preferences Toolbar on Mozilla, but the next time I installed a new version, it was gone and I had to reinstall it. I know that you can install plugins into your ~/.mozilla directory so that upgrading the browser doesn't require reinstalling the plugins, but is it possible to do this for chrome-like things (like the aforementioned Preferences Toolbar)? I've highly customized the toolbar, as well, and I don't even know where that configuration gets saved. Thanks.
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http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/
Looks like rel="next" links are already taken care of. That teaches me to read more carefully next time.
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It took 15 minutes for *that* post to get modded up. I give up.
May we never see th
Other common linktypes not mentioned there include "Search", "Author"/"Made" and "Icon"/"Shortcut Icon".
There's a bug for blocking plugins from various sites. See bug number 94035 on bugzilla.mozilla.org (no link as bugzilla does not allow ./ linking)
If the iframe has a CSS property of display:none, or visibility:hidden then Mozilla will not load the content of that iframe until the display property changes to something that is visible.
IE loads the content of the iframe not matter what the CSS properties are.
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The Mozilla approach already works on many documents on the web that have "rel=next" link tags -- especially documents generated from structured markup (DocBook, other SGML). If you're using Mozilla 1.2 beta, you can try it on various W3C recommendations or the GTK programmer's reference, and thousands of other structured documents on the web.
I forgot to mention, the Mozilla "Site Navigation bar" (accessible from the View->Show/Hide menu) also adds functionality for documents with link tags like those mentioned above.
Maybe with 1.2 I'll actually be able to get the Java plugin working with Linux Mozilla under FreeBSD. I tried two different java runtime environments; not only could they not be found by anyone but root (even with world r-x perms), but neither worked-- one tried to create a window that was 4000x3000 pixels when I loaded a page with a java app that created a new window, the other just hung. (And before you ask, yes I followed all the instructions.)
Would it be too much to ask for to have a few of the very common plugins like java to be loaded & shipped by default? I'd rather have multiple JREs around than be scratching my head trying to get mozilla and java to talk to each other.
At least mafia-owned pizzarias make excellent pizza. Compare to Bill Gates.
Yay! Now I just have to wait only 9 months for all of these cool features! B-)
I have 3656.9 Bogomips. How many Bogomips do you have?
Oct 17, 2002:
First goatse.cx link modded informative.
Christopher Blizzard has been releasing xft2-patched binaries of Mozilla for some time. They are available here. You're absolutely right that the new XFT2 font-architecture renders better. I'm using it in a patched Mozilla 1.0 right now, and the font quality rivals Windows. The quality of the old FreeType code was not too great.
"Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it."
--Henry David Thoreau
How many posts?
3.
You can trust me, I'm the official score keeper.
if you have redhat 8.0, and don't want to get your hands dirty,
here are Redhat 8.0 RPMS for binaries with Xft2 already compiled in
LISP??? Are you INSANE???
RH8.0's Mozilla 1.1 uses the GTK2.0 theme(Aqua:-)).
How about a option where you right click on any person's picture and one of the choices is "view naked." If you choose this it will automatically do a google search for naked pictures of that person (in a tabbed window).
the "group" as a homepage. i open slashdot, linuxtoday, and google news... click "use current group" and now when i open mozilla it pops open three tabs each with one of my favorite sites.
Very cool. Phoenix, when will you have this? (Please, please, please put it in!)
What comes first, finding a teacher or becoming a student?
Read the FAQ 'n manual, please. It prefetches pages mentioned in the <link rel="next" tag also, which many pages have had for (internet) ages.
CowboyNeal for president!
"Hit any user to continue."
Ok, so i just installed those RPMS and all i can say is..
BEAUTIFUL!!
i highly recommend all RH8.0 users to upgrade your mozilla to the above link. you won't regret it!
this clearly is a bad feature. So how in the world do you turn it off?? I could not click through you link: bugzilla reports links from slashdot are disabled. WTF???
ustr: Managed string API with ave. 44% overhead over strdup(), for 0-20B
It's not that big of a deal. Bugzilla just doesn't want to be Slashdotted, since actual people need to use the site. It's still easy enough to copy and paste a Bugzilla url if you really want to see it.
We have Opera 6.1 B1 for Linux to download, now also Mozilla 1.2 B. Leaves little time to play with Phoenix 0.3!
Rapidweather's Linux Screenshots.
If you have a GTK desktop then Mozilla 1.2 will just match the current GTK gui (a few bugs notwithstanding) in Classic. You don't need to do anything.
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You don't have anything close to it written/extended with JavaScript. The language is really very weak in all its parts: OOP, typing, macros, reflection.
Java is not a choice: too heavy, still too buggy. But the most important it's a compiler. The extention language must be able to interprete the source code directly. Besides, JVM is a proprietary property, it cannot be distributed with free software, especially it's compiler.
As alternative to Lisp (which is really not for everybody - it's only for educated persons) I see Python. Are you happy with Python? Some high-order programming, scripting interpreter, optional bytecode compilation is available, fast enough especially in scripting, general purpose language, popular in several OS distributions (i.e. Gentoo). So, Python? :)
Less is more !
Link prefetching: I need to turn that off. Every page I go to has lots of links, and this will slow things down to be "prefetching" links I may never need.
am i the only mozilla user left who thought that pre-download image management - "ask me before downloading an image" in preferences/images - was one of mozilla's best features? no web bugs, no third-party banner ads, total control... it got axed as the "fix" to bug 110112, because of crashes on multiple confirmation dialogues, and despite repeated pleas (vote for bug 146513!), it's still on the wontfix list.
:)
i'm still running 1.0.1 build 20080808, since that's the last build that still had image confirmation, and so far none of the nifty new features, appealing as they are, have been worth giving it up. anybody want to start a write-in campaign?
(i know, "send code" - but i'm a networking geek, not a Real Programmer. i don't have enough coding clue to even understand the code involved, let alone to try to make changes.)
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What could be nice is to be able to "draw" a shape on the screen (think marquee select in gimp/photoshop) and every links within the shape loads in a new tab...
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
It is just another release of some unimportant software.
I don't like big words..., does that make me anti-semantic?
To whoever might want to use it:
" Is there a preference to disable link prefetching? Yes, there is a hidden preference that you can set to disable link prefetching. Add this line to your prefs.js file located in your Mozilla profile directory: user_pref("network.prefetch-next", false);
"
no pre 1.2b-branch themes work.
there are only a small number (growing by the day) of compatable themes.
don't get a theme that doesn't specifically list support for 1.2b
Use my userscript to add story images to Slashdot. There's no going back.
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