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Re:Even better, try Adblock Plus instead
Adblock plus has been on https://addons.mozilla.org/ for a while now. You are right. Adblock Plus + Adblock Filterset G rocks.
I looked at Yahoo the other day without it and I though I would go blind. -
Re:or, the results of...
And, is anyone else sick of the un-"stoppable" macromedia flash ads that suck up cpu and battery life? I see one now on
/. from Neumont University... and it's using 50% of my 1.6GHz cpu, and I can't turn it off.... Fuck Neumont! Fuck Flash ads!You're not the only one. An increasingly large number of us are doing something about it. When Flash ads started making noise, that was it. "If I want your website to make noise, I'll lick my finger and squeak it accross the screen." Check out Flashblock. Want to see the flash? Click the icon and it loads. Don't? Just look at all the icons of flash files not loaded. You can add entire domains to your whitelist if you need.
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Even better, try Adblock Plus instead
Download it here: http://p2.forumforfree.com/adblock-plus-05111-rel
e ased-vt352-adblockplus.html
This is truly the reason why I gave up IE and went whole-hog to Firefox. This plugin can be coupled with another, Filterset.G (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.ph p?id=1136), to get automatic updates of add blocklists. It also supports whitelisting, something the stock Adblock does not. It also blocks flash ads.
With Adblock Plus and Filterset.G, it's a rare page that I have to view that has any ads on it at all. And it's as easy as loading two plugings. These are the first two things I put into Firefox when I load it.
Flashblock is great but it only blocks Flash. Adblock Plus does that one better by blocking Flash ads and not other bits of Flash. Highly recommended. -
Re:or, the results of...
Get firefox. Then get this: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.ph
p ?id=433&application=firefox
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Re:What about IE?
Too bad that use IE. T.T
Perhaps you should check out the Firefox toolbar. It's available from: http://www.mozilla.org/ I've found that it makes my IE sessions much faster with fewer crashes. Kudos to Microsoft!! -
Firewall this...
Funny, funny. I'm blocked by Websense from downloading this extension - or any Firefox extension from addons.mozilla.org here in the bowels of Iraq.
But obviously I can still post to /. Someone has some incredibly skewed priorities. -
Re:NYTimes Article AccessYou must be using IE....I believe that this browser correctly renders
<sarcasm>
tags. Because it seems you missed the ones in my post above.... -
Re:Patch released!
Sigh, yet another case of the cure being worse than the disease. I happen to enjoy having some free memory to use for other applications. Running a web browser that has ambitions of being an application environment just doesn't appeal to me.
Of course, you could also use the one browser that's been innovating the field. Running Opera is like seeing the features that Mozilla will steal five years from now. -
Firefox
What's the problem with IE7? You can solve the problem by not using IE7 at all. You can install Firefox in every machine in your company, regardless it's Windows, Linux, Mac or whatever. Even more, you can use Mozilla as a framework to deploy a webapp (including XUL) as it were a binary app. And I think there's a project called MozRunner to allow distributing a plain AJAX webapp as it were a binary app, no need to run Mozilla/Firefox at all.
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Re:coral cahced
I wonder when slashcode is going to support inserting
The Slashdot Firefox extension, as mentioned above, does this, with the option to have any of Coral Cache, Google Cache, and MirrorDot links added after each link in a Slashdot story. .nyud.net:8090 to all post links automatically?
It has a few other features, with lots more planned for v 1.2. -
Re:That's nice
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Re:Not likely
Actually it's a pleasant surprise to me, as the W3C has historically focused on hypertext documents and has done almost nothing to improve the state of the art of web applications.
*cough* *sputter* *gag*
Hello? DOM? Document Object Model? The enter API that makes complex web applications possible?
We're talking about a feature introduced in 1999 that has almost universal support already.
Mozilla implemented it for Mozilla 1.0 and Netscape 7. Safari implemented it in OS X 10.3. Opera added support in version 8.0. Microsoft may have implemented it years ago, but the rest of the market hasn't wanted it standardized until recently. Ergo, it wasn't. Those of us who wanted that functionality used hidden iframes instead.
Maybe they can even get around to completing standardization of the form.* API (from Netscape 2.0) one of these days!
I supposed next you're going to demand NS4 layer support? It should go well with the "blink" tag support that I'm sure you're going to request. What are you thinking? The W3C would bust your kneecaps if they caught you using the form.* API!
Three words: Document. Object. Model. You're supposed to be grabbing everything through the DOM, not through Javascript. That's why Netscape's latest specifications for JavaScript 1.5 removed all those web apis. This brings it in line with the ECMA-262 specification. You are coding your Javascript to the ECMA-262 specification, right? Otherwise, you're just creating "legacy" coding problems for yourself that won't port to all current and future browsers.
For someone who thinks Netscape sucks, you sure are married to it. :-P -
Re:Not likely
"Your browser does not support this application.
Please download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/."
oh great, so we've replaced OS-specific software with browser-specific software. -
Re:How soon to version 3.0?
If you look at the release roadmap it looks like they should not have bumped 1.1 to 1.5 and thus 1.5 to 2. The change between 1.5 and 2 is going to be nearly all bugfixes and interface changes, but no underlying upgrade. Then, we'll all-of-a-sudden leap from 2.0 to 3.0 in six months, with the major change being the Gecko upgrade. IMHO, the Gecko upgrade should have signalled the shift from the 1.x series to the 2.x series. The change in Gecko from 1.5 to 2.0 was only from 1.8 to 1.8.1. Silly. That six month leap from 2.0 to 3.0 is not legit.
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Not likely
AjaxWrite to "Compete" with MS Word
Not if he doesn't learn a lot more about the DOM, and fast.
I was all ready to complement the AjaxWrite team on having finally delivered the first online wordprocessor with full font-sizing abilities. Then I realized something: There are only 7 font sizes. The same 7 that are supported by every rich text editor in existance. Why only seven? Because those seven are built into the rich text editing component that's included with Mozilla and IE. If you want to allow arbitray font sizes, you have to delve down into the DOM and start some complex tweaking.
All AjaxWrite has done is hide these facts by assigning standard font sizes. Anyone with the right info could replicate this "feat" pretty easily.
Sorry, nothing to see here.
The bright side is that his app supports the Microsoft DOC format. How well it supports it is an open question, but he probably is using a library like POI to do the heavy lifting. Nothing wrong with that, but also nothing ground-breaking. I imagine that many users will drop this tool as soon as they realize they can't properly match font sizes.
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Re:Wait a minute...
Memory leaks? What version of Firefox did you use? I've never had any problems with it since version 1.5. Try the Mozilla Suite if Firefox doesn't work for you, or maybe the W3C's own Amaya. . .
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Re:I hope they don't change the tabs too much
Some of the tabbing issues being addressed are actually big fat bugs, such as what happens when you open too many tabs in one window (which I do all the time...
:-P ). E.g. see Bug 221684: When opening too many tabs you can't move to them with the mouse ("X" button and tabs overlap) for a prime example. This case simply wasn't handled at all gracefully in the GUI -- tabs just "run off" of the right side.
Tho I am curious to play with the alpha to see what other changes might be in store. Who knows, maybe I'll get to go do some damage in Bugzilla? 8-) -
Re:My favourite bug...
There's more in only-gecko-doesn't-support-that -basic-thing-for-years-now category: meet lack of soft hyphen support [9101].
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Re:How soon to version 3.0?
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/roadmap.h
t ml According to their roadmap, they think they might be moving on to working on v3 by the first quarter of 2007 which, if they kept their current pace, would put the alpha and beta releases of FF 3.0 out around a year or so from now. -
Known Issues
History and Bookmarks:
- There are significant issues with the user interface, including the history/bookmarks manager, the personal toolbar, the bookmarks menu, the bookmarks add/properties dialog, and livemarks. Many operations cause assets or other warnings, not everything updates properly, some operations don't work or are disabled.
- Can't export to bookmarks.html.
- Livemark loading locks up the browser.
- No sidebar-like functionality yet.
- Viewing all history is slow if you have a lot.
- All bookmarks with the same URI will have the same title/properties.
- The first run may take a few seconds to import the data from Firefox 1.0/1.5. There is no progress UI for this.
Extensions:
- When moving to Bon Echo from an earlier version of Firefox, some of your Extensions and Themes may be disabled. This is not an issue, but it may appear to be one (hence its listing here). For rationale, see "Extension and Themes" above.
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Re:XForms support?
I'm not sure if it will be in the standard distribution, but the Mozilla XForms Extension works nicely for simple applications. Personally, I'm keeping my eye on this extension, but I'm building my XForms applications with Orbeon Presentation Server, which translates XForms to HTML forms on the server side.
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Re:Will Firefox 2.0 support the latest standards?
It will not. 2.0 is about non-rendering features.
Because of the huge changes going on in the Gecko rendering engine the Gecko team needs more time to work on it. 3.0 with the new Cairo-based Gecko 1.9 is scheduled for Q1 2007. See the Mozilla Wiki for more information.
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Re:what's really new?
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Re:ACID 2
Firefox 2.0 is based off the 1.8 Gecko branch, just like Firefox 1.5 was. 1.5 uses 1.8.0, 2.0 will use 1.8.0.1, 3.0 will use 1.9. There shouldn't be much difference in terms of rendering pages between 1.5 and 2.0.
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Re:XForms support?
Why don't you use the plugin http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xforms/
Because the use of XForms that I have in mind requires that no additional plugins or other software installs are required for the user. I can require the browser, but it has to be a vanilla install. Think non-technical users with pretty much non-existant IT support. -
Re:That's all?
It will be much more than that when Firefox 2 actually makes it out to the world. This is a very early build and according to the Roadmap, it will be released near the third quarter of 2006. I'm guessing it will actually be a little later than that. I also found this Feature Brainstorming page, which seems to be closer to what's being planned for 2.0. I see a lot of new stuff.
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Re:That's all?
It will be much more than that when Firefox 2 actually makes it out to the world. This is a very early build and according to the Roadmap, it will be released near the third quarter of 2006. I'm guessing it will actually be a little later than that. I also found this Feature Brainstorming page, which seems to be closer to what's being planned for 2.0. I see a lot of new stuff.
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My favourite bug...
Bug 9458 (referrer block for links from slash), "Implement inline-block in layout" hast its 7th birthday coming up.
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Re:XForms support?
Why don't you use the plugin
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On my Windows Mobile 2003SE I use:
On my Windows Mobile 2003SE I use:
- CAB Installer: you can select where install programs
- GSPlayer: Simply audio player for Pocket PC
- Mozilla Minimo: web browser
- Opera for windows mobile: web browser
- TCPMP: media player
- Total Commander: file manager
- Vbar: task manager
- WiFiFoFum2: the best WiFi scanner and war driving software for Pocket PC
- PocketPuTTY: ssh access
- .NET VNC: VNC viewer
I will suggest also a daily visit :) to this great website: FreeCABs (Your Link to Free PPC Software which can be installed without a PC connection) -
Re:Less and less relevant?
I'll go further and say Vista is even more relevant than Windows XP, and Windows 2000.
Microsoft has had 10 very long years to think about the internet. Vista is what they've come up with as a result of it. Developer's of .NET will know that Vista is the part of a larger design. Vista is the first OS release that is part of Microsoft's .NET initiative, which is to evolve the internet into a transport for technologies designed and/or inspired by Microsoft. Vista's support of XAML is a very major feature to be released with Vista, many have overlooked it and do not understand it's ramifications.
Many will scoff at this but, we are approaching the end of HTML's reign over the internet. HTML is simply not a rich enough medium to deliver the complex user experience people want. AJAX is a symptom of this, it's just yet another attempt to hack out a solution to the many architectural flaws of HTML as an application development platform. HTML was never designed to be used for what people do with it today, it's evolved organically, and like most things which have been designed organically it's simply not an elegant solution.
Many things have been developed to superceed it.... Macromedia Flash, W3C's SVG, Mozilla's XUL. All these technologies offer similar features to Microsoft's XAML, slick, vectorised graphical interfaces, designed to scale up/down for tomorrow's display devices. What these technologies don't have which XAML does is the full power of direct-x and all the resources and security features packed into the Microsoft .NET framework behind it. It will offer a very seductive and compelling experience for users. It will also seduce those wanting to deliver content to the net with Microsoft's Expression suite of products, enabling graphical artists to work seemlessly with developers.
XAML downloads in a browser, it's somewhere between a web form and a windows form. If all Microsoft's dreams come true, decades from now much of the content you'll see on the net will be in XAML. Vista is the first step to realising this dream. -
Firefox calendar extension; Sunbird issues
For what it's worth (probably not much!), there is already an extension to integrate the calendar into Firefox. It's based on the 0.2 codebase, but that's not necessarily a bad thing at the moment. I've been running Sunbird 0.2 for months now with only a few minor problems. The various releases and nightlies I've tried of the new codebase have all either had bad crashing problems or data loss issues. I'm really looking forward to these getting resolved; there are some great new features in the Sunbird 0.3 releases!
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Re:Sunbird?
Whoops. I clearly misread the Sunbird and Calendar pages http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/. Apologies, all. In the second section, I quote:
Calendar vs. Sunbird
Calendar is the calendar extension for Mozilla products such as Mozilla Firefox,Mozilla Thunderbird, Seamonkey and the Mozilla Application Suite.
Sunbird is the standalone form of the calendar extension, which means that it doesn't need one of the above mentioned applications to run. Sunbird and Calendar use the same base code so their functionality is virtually the same and they share the same bugs and bug fixes. Some features currently depend on the underlying product:
and, further down the same page:
Tuesday, March 14th, 2006:
The Calendar team is proud to announce the first official release of the new Lightning extension: Lightning 0.1 for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X. This is a major milestone on the road to an integrated calendar for users of the award-winning mail-client Mozilla Thunderbird. Thanks go to all developers, testers and other supporters of the project. -
Calendar vs. Sunbird
It may be confusing but there are some differences between calendar and Sunbird. As explained here,
Calendar is the calendar extension for Mozilla products such as Mozilla Firefox,Mozilla Thunderbird, Seamonkey and the Mozilla Application Suite.
Sunbird is the standalone form of the calendar extension, which means that it doesn't need one of the above mentioned applications to run. Sunbird and Calendar use the same base code so their functionality is virtually the same and they share the same bugs and bug fixes. Some features currently depend on the underlying product:
Open URL works only on Mozilla Firefox., Seamonkey and the Mozilla Application Suite.
Email alarm works only in Mozilla Thunderbird, Seamonkey and the Mozilla Application Suite. -
SunbirdWhat, so this is sunbird, but as a Thunderbird extension? It looks the same.
What do I gain (or lose) using the extension instead of the Sunbird client?
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Re:Sunbird?
Go to http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
You'll find out they haven't forgot Sunbird. It seems Lightning is 'Sunbird within Thunderbird'. Correct me if I misunderstood :-) -
Re:Ajax is a flash in the pan
Mozilla took the XUL path, but that won't work for cross-browser applications.
I like to think that someday Mozilla will release a XUL plugin that will fix that. And actually there is alredy something on the way, take a look at XUL Runner for example.From the site:
XULRunner is a single installable package that can be used to bootstrap multiple XUL+XPCOM applications that are as rich as Firefox and Thunderbird.
So, yes... I can picture a future where XUL has replaced all this AJAX stuff. -
Re:Features and more from the status meeting
I find the session saver in Tab Mix Plus to be more robust than the session saver in Session Saver. YMMV.
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Re:No doubleclick.net with DNS blackholing / Adblo
I strongly recommend the Adblock Plus extension for Mozilla Firefox, together with the Adblock Filterset.G Updater extension. The dynamic duo has kept my web browsing experience fast and clean ever since I discovered them.
With the advent of these powerful and extensive adblockers (supports regular expressions!), and the ease of installation and usage, it makes me wonder how online advertisers could survive... -
Re:No doubleclick.net with DNS blackholing / Adblo
I strongly recommend the Adblock Plus extension for Mozilla Firefox, together with the Adblock Filterset.G Updater extension. The dynamic duo has kept my web browsing experience fast and clean ever since I discovered them.
With the advent of these powerful and extensive adblockers (supports regular expressions!), and the ease of installation and usage, it makes me wonder how online advertisers could survive... -
You're right, but...
[JavaScript is] just not the right language for writing full-featured applications. It's barely even object oriented, weak typed, etc. And debugging it is a disaster.
Actually, EMCA Script is perhaps one of the most object-oriented languages in use today. Absolutely everything is an object and there are no primatives. And as for debugging, Venkma is probably one of the most powerful debugging environments I have ever used for any language or platform?
As for your comment regarding Java Applets, it is really a matter of ubiquity. Every browser (for our intents and purposes) has ECMA Script support. However, not all of them have the Java Runtime Environment plug-in.
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Re:Metrics
My problem is not with ads, but with the ton of scripts and *annoying* ads that many sites use. Sometimes the page simply wont because an adserver somewhere is bogged down. That earns an adblock.
What you need is Firefox with the NoScript extension. Its default is to disallow all javascript, and you can selectively whitelist sites allowed to execute Javascript, without allowing the advertisers on that site to run their scripts. All the annoying pop-ups and pop-under ads are now gone.
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The Official News Release from Mozilla News
In view of the following news released on the developers site, I think we can all take a deep breath and recognize that this was entirely overblown, and probably didn't really deserve to be mentioned on slashdot at all. Yet, anyway. If it actually was the newsworthy event originally claimed, then yes, deffinitly, but it's just alpha1, and not even a complete one, from the sounds of it.
Taken directly from mozillanews
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Code Freeze for 2.0 Alpha1 this Thursday at 11:59PM PST
As discussed at the BonEcho status meeting today we will be doing a 1.8 branch code freeze on Thursday March 16, 2006 at 11:59PM PST in preparation for a Alpha 1 release next Tuesday.
If you are trying to get a bug landed for Alpha1 please be sure to set the target milestone as follows:
Firefox product: Firefox 2 alpha1
Toolkit/Core products: mozilla1.8.1alpha1
Ben G and Schrep will organize a quick triage session to stay on top of these bugs Weds/Thurs.
The Alpha1 is primarily designed to test the places backend. The UI is not anywhere near final and mind the standard disclaimers about how it's alpha software and is thus buggy - so use at your own risk.
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Branch numbers are becoming very confusingIf you look at the trunk directory, you see that the packages are still numbered as 1.6a1 even though the dragbar says Alpha 2. Even more confusing, the build id in the About dialog says: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20060318 Firefox/1.6a1.
I get the impression that there are several main development branches running, not just the usual current branch/last branch/trunk trio.
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Already done
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Alternatives to Opera
The other Free Software options:
http://www.konqueror.org/
http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/
http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/
http://www.caminobrowser.org/
And the non-free ones, like Opera is...
http://www.apple.com/safari/
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Re:Whoa Mozilla
Well, I'd like to see microsoft offer Nightly builds of the latest checkins
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Re:Looking forward to it
There are several extensions for gestures in Firefox. These aren't extra programs that have to run in the background. For what it's worth, extensions are primarily why I haven't looked back at closed-source browsing.
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Re:Looking forward to it
There are several extensions for gestures in Firefox. These aren't extra programs that have to run in the background. For what it's worth, extensions are primarily why I haven't looked back at closed-source browsing.
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Re:Looking forward to it
There are several extensions for gestures in Firefox. These aren't extra programs that have to run in the background. For what it's worth, extensions are primarily why I haven't looked back at closed-source browsing.