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Re:Use AdBlock Plus
Wokrs fine for me. WinXP/sp2, Ff 1.5.0.1, AdBlock 0.5.3.42
There are several addon filtersets for AdBlock. I wonder could they be the problem. e.g. "AdBlock Filterset.G Updater" - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=1136
P.S. Thou I recall spotting report on Bugzilla report about Ff crash related to AdBlock. I thought it was fixed in 1.5 - it seems not. Bug like that: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31650 7 -
Re:Pardon?
My favorite method in mozilla is the kungFuDeathGrip();. I have no idea what it does thou, but it sounds awesome.
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Re:Opera doesn't suckthanks. That's the sweetest extention:
Tab Mix Plus completely enhances Firefox's tab browsing capabilities. It includes such features as duplicating tabs, controlling tab focus, tab clicking options, undo closed tabs and windows, plus much more. It also includes a full-featured session manager with crash recovery that can save and restore combinations of opened tabs and windows.Taken from here
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Re:Opera doesn't suck
Firefox also has the ability to re-open closed tabs. There's several extensions that handle it of which the best, in my opinion, is Tab Mix Plus v0.3.0.2. It also includes SessionSaving in it as well. It's the power extension of tab control.
You can pick it up here: Tab Mix Plus - Firefox Extension
Generally, if there's a feature that you can come up with someone can make an extension for it. Sometimes it's a bit too difficult to to implement some ideas though.
The one thing I really wish Firefox had was the ability to scale both text and graphics smoothly and quickly like Opera does. That is truly a useful feature and why I think Opera is the best browser for lower end computers.
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Re:Before you start bitch about Firefox memory lea
Yes, must have been a bitch to use.
http://www.mozilla.org/unix/gtk-embedding.html
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Re:Link?You can follow the link in my
.sig, sign up for the game and look at the dynamic map in the info menu. But here's the text:
You seem to be using IE as a web browser. The dynamic map will not work
with IE, including the AOL version. This is due to IE being buggy.
The dynamic map is proper CSS 2.0 and even verifies without warnings
as HTML 4.01.
We suggest that you upgrade your browser to something like
Mozilla or Opera
or any other modern, standards-complient browser. We recommend Firefox, the
most recent Mozilla browser:
If you are, in fact, using one such and have just configured it to identify
itself as MSIE, or if you insist to see how IE mangles proper Internet
files, go ahead, but don't complain. -
Re:Link?You can follow the link in my
.sig, sign up for the game and look at the dynamic map in the info menu. But here's the text:
You seem to be using IE as a web browser. The dynamic map will not work
with IE, including the AOL version. This is due to IE being buggy.
The dynamic map is proper CSS 2.0 and even verifies without warnings
as HTML 4.01.
We suggest that you upgrade your browser to something like
Mozilla or Opera
or any other modern, standards-complient browser. We recommend Firefox, the
most recent Mozilla browser:
If you are, in fact, using one such and have just configured it to identify
itself as MSIE, or if you insist to see how IE mangles proper Internet
files, go ahead, but don't complain. -
Re:Google Fanboyism at it's whackiest
Flashblock for Firefox will not show flash objects.
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=433
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Re:Ahh... what a relief...
I invite you to find this many bugs in Firefox 1.5 beta 2
But that's not really a fair comparison. Firefox has a huge advantage, just because of the way open source software works. People were downloading Firefox 1.5 source and nightly builds long before it hit release candidate or beta status, so a fair number of bugs never survived to be shown in the beta. Microsoft doesn't get the same opportunity to find this stuff ahead of time, so they have to deal with a bug report zerg rush when they actually release a beta. Or a beta preview.
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Re:I'm not impressed so far
Luckily, like many previous Mozilla versions, it also comes with the "Modern" theme, which is easily selected.
This of course goes well with the Modern icon pack. Firefox has "always" had big memory leaks, as far as I've noticed, and Firefox has always had the "bug" where the page rendering is coupled to the entire UI. Firefox is unusable when it takes a half-second or more to switch between a 'relatively' large (cough, 20) number of tabs, and can take thirty seconds or more to load a plugin like Shockwave or Java, even on a fast machine. Then there are all of the security issues with Firefox, like that they're more or less supporting spyware tracking, nevermind the issue where it ignores most Java security; it's the only browser I've seen anymore which actually gets affected by Java Viruses, even Internet Explorer (6 SP2 or better) won't. They also tend to have a policy of inserting code which may not be stable, and may not be in the best interest of...anyone.
Also, it's not incompatible with particularly useful extensions. Even ForecastFox and Reminderfox work, as do EnigMail nightlies, Adblock (and Adblock Plus with automatic filter update extensions), Googlebar, StumbleUpon, even the web developer toolbar, and various tab browsing functionality can be replicated with Nightly builds of Multizilla. The only thing I can't easily replicate on SeaMonkey is GreaseMonkey (ironically). Ancient versions depend on Mozilla 1.7 or so, newer versions want Firefox 1.5, though I'm told there'll be a Seamonkey-compatible sometime soon.
And while Firefox may have originally been meant to "trim the fat" of Mozilla, the per-tab usage of SM vs. Firefox isn't a substantial difference (about 30MB difference on 100 tabs, which at that point is a drop in the bucket), and Mozilla/SeaMonkey also include the email client (which only adds about 4MB, compared to 40+ for Thunderbird, and 60+ or so for Outlook 2003), and can rack up more savings the more you use it to replace other things, like IRC client and Calendar (which now has a working version for Seamonkey). It also tends to render pages faster, with less CPU time, and less CPU time used for 'idle pages'. I can't count the number of times I've had to kill Firefox and restart it because some random tab or another started using 100% CPU time, even when it wasn't the active one. Animated GIFs also made the browser crazy (though I was getting that as late as December or so, before Firefox was finally purged permanently from my machine). Between SeaMonkey and Miranda, I save about 150MB of memory and a lot more CPU power compared to using other (standard) possible combinations of applications. -
Re:I'm not impressed so far
Luckily, like many previous Mozilla versions, it also comes with the "Modern" theme, which is easily selected.
This of course goes well with the Modern icon pack. Firefox has "always" had big memory leaks, as far as I've noticed, and Firefox has always had the "bug" where the page rendering is coupled to the entire UI. Firefox is unusable when it takes a half-second or more to switch between a 'relatively' large (cough, 20) number of tabs, and can take thirty seconds or more to load a plugin like Shockwave or Java, even on a fast machine. Then there are all of the security issues with Firefox, like that they're more or less supporting spyware tracking, nevermind the issue where it ignores most Java security; it's the only browser I've seen anymore which actually gets affected by Java Viruses, even Internet Explorer (6 SP2 or better) won't. They also tend to have a policy of inserting code which may not be stable, and may not be in the best interest of...anyone.
Also, it's not incompatible with particularly useful extensions. Even ForecastFox and Reminderfox work, as do EnigMail nightlies, Adblock (and Adblock Plus with automatic filter update extensions), Googlebar, StumbleUpon, even the web developer toolbar, and various tab browsing functionality can be replicated with Nightly builds of Multizilla. The only thing I can't easily replicate on SeaMonkey is GreaseMonkey (ironically). Ancient versions depend on Mozilla 1.7 or so, newer versions want Firefox 1.5, though I'm told there'll be a Seamonkey-compatible sometime soon.
And while Firefox may have originally been meant to "trim the fat" of Mozilla, the per-tab usage of SM vs. Firefox isn't a substantial difference (about 30MB difference on 100 tabs, which at that point is a drop in the bucket), and Mozilla/SeaMonkey also include the email client (which only adds about 4MB, compared to 40+ for Thunderbird, and 60+ or so for Outlook 2003), and can rack up more savings the more you use it to replace other things, like IRC client and Calendar (which now has a working version for Seamonkey). It also tends to render pages faster, with less CPU time, and less CPU time used for 'idle pages'. I can't count the number of times I've had to kill Firefox and restart it because some random tab or another started using 100% CPU time, even when it wasn't the active one. Animated GIFs also made the browser crazy (though I was getting that as late as December or so, before Firefox was finally purged permanently from my machine). Between SeaMonkey and Miranda, I save about 150MB of memory and a lot more CPU power compared to using other (standard) possible combinations of applications. -
Re:"Quick Tab"
It seems like just yesterday I was looking through the tabbed browsing section of Mozilla Update and found yet another extension that looks almost identical.
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Sunbird Calendar Works with Seamonkey
There is a version of the Sunbird calendar that integrates with Seamonkey here. I installed it and now there is a calendar button on all my Seamonkey apps.
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Re:Page thumbnails
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Reveal is another Firefox Quick Tab option
Along with the currently existing Foxpose mentioned above there is also the currently existing Reveal
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Re:Preview tab is sweet
Also, note that I never claimed MS was innovating, simply that IE7 tabs would be superior to those in FF.
Perhaps out of the box but FF has extensions to make it much better. If you digg tabbed browsing, you should check out following extensions (these have overlapping features so you might want to select only a few):
- Showcase
- Reveal
- foXpose
- Tab Catalog
- Tab Sidebar
- Tabnail
- Tab Mix Plus (doesn't display preview but this is a valuable extension for tabbed browsing)
On the other hand, if you don't like tabbed browsing, that's okay too. There's an extension to totally disable tabbed browsing in Firefox.
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Re:Preview tab is sweet
Also, note that I never claimed MS was innovating, simply that IE7 tabs would be superior to those in FF.
Perhaps out of the box but FF has extensions to make it much better. If you digg tabbed browsing, you should check out following extensions (these have overlapping features so you might want to select only a few):
- Showcase
- Reveal
- foXpose
- Tab Catalog
- Tab Sidebar
- Tabnail
- Tab Mix Plus (doesn't display preview but this is a valuable extension for tabbed browsing)
On the other hand, if you don't like tabbed browsing, that's okay too. There's an extension to totally disable tabbed browsing in Firefox.
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Re:Preview tab is sweet
Also, note that I never claimed MS was innovating, simply that IE7 tabs would be superior to those in FF.
Perhaps out of the box but FF has extensions to make it much better. If you digg tabbed browsing, you should check out following extensions (these have overlapping features so you might want to select only a few):
- Showcase
- Reveal
- foXpose
- Tab Catalog
- Tab Sidebar
- Tabnail
- Tab Mix Plus (doesn't display preview but this is a valuable extension for tabbed browsing)
On the other hand, if you don't like tabbed browsing, that's okay too. There's an extension to totally disable tabbed browsing in Firefox.
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Re:Preview tab is sweet
Also, note that I never claimed MS was innovating, simply that IE7 tabs would be superior to those in FF.
Perhaps out of the box but FF has extensions to make it much better. If you digg tabbed browsing, you should check out following extensions (these have overlapping features so you might want to select only a few):
- Showcase
- Reveal
- foXpose
- Tab Catalog
- Tab Sidebar
- Tabnail
- Tab Mix Plus (doesn't display preview but this is a valuable extension for tabbed browsing)
On the other hand, if you don't like tabbed browsing, that's okay too. There's an extension to totally disable tabbed browsing in Firefox.
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Re:Preview tab is sweet
Also, note that I never claimed MS was innovating, simply that IE7 tabs would be superior to those in FF.
Perhaps out of the box but FF has extensions to make it much better. If you digg tabbed browsing, you should check out following extensions (these have overlapping features so you might want to select only a few):
- Showcase
- Reveal
- foXpose
- Tab Catalog
- Tab Sidebar
- Tabnail
- Tab Mix Plus (doesn't display preview but this is a valuable extension for tabbed browsing)
On the other hand, if you don't like tabbed browsing, that's okay too. There's an extension to totally disable tabbed browsing in Firefox.
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Re:Preview tab is sweet
Also, note that I never claimed MS was innovating, simply that IE7 tabs would be superior to those in FF.
Perhaps out of the box but FF has extensions to make it much better. If you digg tabbed browsing, you should check out following extensions (these have overlapping features so you might want to select only a few):
- Showcase
- Reveal
- foXpose
- Tab Catalog
- Tab Sidebar
- Tabnail
- Tab Mix Plus (doesn't display preview but this is a valuable extension for tabbed browsing)
On the other hand, if you don't like tabbed browsing, that's okay too. There's an extension to totally disable tabbed browsing in Firefox.
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Re:Preview tab is sweet
Also, note that I never claimed MS was innovating, simply that IE7 tabs would be superior to those in FF.
Perhaps out of the box but FF has extensions to make it much better. If you digg tabbed browsing, you should check out following extensions (these have overlapping features so you might want to select only a few):
- Showcase
- Reveal
- foXpose
- Tab Catalog
- Tab Sidebar
- Tabnail
- Tab Mix Plus (doesn't display preview but this is a valuable extension for tabbed browsing)
On the other hand, if you don't like tabbed browsing, that's okay too. There's an extension to totally disable tabbed browsing in Firefox.
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Re:Preview tab is sweet
Also, note that I never claimed MS was innovating, simply that IE7 tabs would be superior to those in FF.
Perhaps out of the box but FF has extensions to make it much better. If you digg tabbed browsing, you should check out following extensions (these have overlapping features so you might want to select only a few):
- Showcase
- Reveal
- foXpose
- Tab Catalog
- Tab Sidebar
- Tabnail
- Tab Mix Plus (doesn't display preview but this is a valuable extension for tabbed browsing)
On the other hand, if you don't like tabbed browsing, that's okay too. There's an extension to totally disable tabbed browsing in Firefox.
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Re:"Quick Tab"
The best bit really is that if the browser does crash (and unfortunately, it does at times), when you restart you are pretty much exactly where you left it, including history, so you can use that back button. The only issue you will have is if the site you were browsing has sessions, then it won't necessarily 'just work' - you'll have to log in again. I love that - I've got Session Saver for FireFox. It can save multiple windows of multiple tabs as "one session" and then save multiple sessions - i love it.
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Re:"Quick Tab"
Or you may try the Reveal extension.
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foXpose
There is a firefox extension that provides a similar feature to Quick Tabs called foXpose
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foXpose anyone?
They tried to outdo Firefox tab browsing with a feature call Quick tab which shows thumbnail view of all open tabs in a single window.
Yeah, but we already have foXpose for Mozilla Firefox. Kazehakase also has something similar. It's really nothing new. -
"Quick Tab"
They tried to outdo Firefox tab browsing with a feature call Quick tab which shows thumbnail view of all open tabs in a single window.
This can be accomplished in Firefox by using the foXpose extension. -
Re:1.5 wasn't so good.
You can try the 1.5.0.1 nightlies, which are supposed to contain a lot of crash fixes and other major bugfixes. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/ni
g htly/latest-mozilla1.8.0/
I used to get occasional crashes starting with the Deer Park builds before it was called 1.5, but they seemed to go away completely after I installed the flashblock extension and disabled java. Lots of flash ads across several tabs is a recipe for disaster. There's still a Linux-only tab dragging bug (drag doesn't end when button is released) that annoys me in 1.5, but I feel it beats the a Linux-only performance bug that annoyed me in 1.0. -
Re:drag&drop reordering of tabs....
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Re:drag&drop reordering of tabs....
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Re:Is it compatible with extensions and plugins?Perhaps.
Part of the install docs say that you should uninstall older Mozillas, and delete the older install directory, if you used extensions (they note the spell checker as one). They also caution: "Do not install over an old Mozilla version." (They have it in bold, too.)
Apparently, you can have the older version co-existing with SeaMonkey, (not a surprise) so you can still use the old extensions with the old version.
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Re:Compilation instructions?
Ignore the AC that replied to you, those instructions are not any good for building any Mozilla release be it SeaMonkey, Firefox, Thunderbird or others.
Use the following links.
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Build_Documen tation
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Category:Buil d_Documentation
For help
http://irc.mozilla.org/
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=42 -
Re:Compilation instructions?
Ignore the AC that replied to you, those instructions are not any good for building any Mozilla release be it SeaMonkey, Firefox, Thunderbird or others.
Use the following links.
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Build_Documen tation
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Category:Buil d_Documentation
For help
http://irc.mozilla.org/
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=42 -
Re:Compilation instructions?
Ignore the AC that replied to you, those instructions are not any good for building any Mozilla release be it SeaMonkey, Firefox, Thunderbird or others.
Use the following links.
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Build_Documen tation
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Category:Buil d_Documentation
For help
http://irc.mozilla.org/
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Re:Am I just confused?
Unfortunately, Mozilla is a trademark and the Mozilla Foundation does not let them call it Mozilla Suite, so it is now SeaMonkey.
Actually, according to the Mozilla trademark policy, Seamonkey is one of their trademarks anyway.
I also suggest people read that policy in general, as there's a good chance most people are technically breaking it already. Put that ® or (TM) next to Mozilla® Thunderbird(TM) recently? (Mozilla is a registered trademark of the Mozilla Foundation. Thunderbird is a trademark of the Mozilla Foundation.)
(Yes, I know I'm being a bit excessive, but if you follow it to their exact spec, that's what you get.) -
Re:ACID2 test? Not even close.
Firefox is quite near of passing it, however
I mean, this looks much better than IE
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28948 0 for the bug -
Re:ACID2 test? Not even close.
Firefox is quite near of passing it, however
I mean, this looks much better than IE
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28948 0 for the bug -
Re:Does anyone know if they fixed the chatzilla bu
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Re:Does anyone know if they fixed the chatzilla bu
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Re:Yay!
Now, if people would start making themes for mozilla again. The default and the ones I have found are butt ugly.
There are a bunch here:
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Re:ACID2 test? Not even close.
IE7 doesn't render http://www.mozilla.org/ correctly. The monitor on the RHS keeps moving around independent of the image on the screen when you refresh.
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Re:Live Bookmarks When?
However, I am disappointed that there seems to still be no support for "live bookmarks" (RSS feeds in bookmark form). That is the killer feature that made me switch from the Mozilla suite to Firefox. Are there any plans to implement this handy functionality in Seamonkey?
The bug for this is bug 240393 (copy paste link, as
/. referers are blocked) and doesn't have any activity. If a developer who cares about this steps up to the plate, it could be in soon, but otherwise I wouldn't expect it for a while.However, turning the mailnews client into a feedreader, similar to Thunderbird (both using Myk Melez's ForumZilla extension as a starting point) is being worked on in bug 255834 (idem), and is targetted for SeaMonkey 1.1, to be released late this year. It would've been in SeaMonkey 1.0, but unfortunately the lead Thunderbird dev didn't want this code to be shared, so extra effort had to be spent to fork it between the SeaMonkey and Thunderbird trees.
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Re:Live Bookmarks When?
However, I am disappointed that there seems to still be no support for "live bookmarks" (RSS feeds in bookmark form). That is the killer feature that made me switch from the Mozilla suite to Firefox. Are there any plans to implement this handy functionality in Seamonkey?
The bug for this is bug 240393 (copy paste link, as
/. referers are blocked) and doesn't have any activity. If a developer who cares about this steps up to the plate, it could be in soon, but otherwise I wouldn't expect it for a while.However, turning the mailnews client into a feedreader, similar to Thunderbird (both using Myk Melez's ForumZilla extension as a starting point) is being worked on in bug 255834 (idem), and is targetted for SeaMonkey 1.1, to be released late this year. It would've been in SeaMonkey 1.0, but unfortunately the lead Thunderbird dev didn't want this code to be shared, so extra effort had to be spent to fork it between the SeaMonkey and Thunderbird trees.
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Re:first look - running dialogue
Built-in phishing protection = good
Actually, it's horrible. It submits every URL you try to access to MS for verification. Same with the Google toolbar in fact, except the latter is even worse because it submits it over an unencrypted connection. These anti-phishing efforts break the current semantics of the web. These efforts are seriously misguided and truly disheartening, particularly when there are perfectly good anti-phishing tools that do things right. -
Re:When will lightning strike?
The front page hasn't been updated, but if you dig a little deeper, they claim version 0.1 will be released next month. Unfortunately, they seem to be moving at a crawl, and they don't have any immediate plans to integrate PDA synchronization. I don't think SeaMonkey will be any kind of threat to Microsoft until they can pull it all together.
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Re:When will lightning strike?
Lightning is still being worked on, and progress is happening, as detailed in the calender weblog http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar/. The project page itself is here http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Lightning. It's good to see progress happening - for those of us using Thunderbird in a work environment I think it's obvious that a Lightning style integrated calender will be an important part of mozilla's mix - those that currently use outlook won't easily switch to Thunderbird due to loss of functionality.
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Re:For those of us who don't follow mozilla.org...
s/Chocolate Sex/Sexual Chocolate/g
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Pssh. You call that life-like?
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Re:Firefox extensions?
Do Firefox extensions work with SeaMonkey?
Some do, some don't. It mostly depends on how much effort the extension developer put into his work. A lot of basic extensions should be completely compatible between the two programs, with only needing to use a different installation system, and most of those will indeed have versions for both. A lot of other extensions depend on Firefox specific UI / code, and probably won't (if they even make sense at all in the SeaMonkey/Mozilla world), unless the developer cared, or got lots of requests from people to make the extension compatible. You can browse the Mozilla/SeaMonkey extensions at addons to see what's there.