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This patch is in violation of the MPL. It has the MPL license removed from:

http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/toolkit/mo zapps/downloads/content/nsHelperAppDlg.js

Which is in violation of clause 3.5

The update thingy also tells me that 1.0 PR is available and I should download it. The only problem is that I am already running 1.0 PR

I ran into this same problem with the update under Linux. MS Windows users won't run into it since they are running as local Admin or have write permissions to the firefox directory. When I ran it as root, it worked fine so I take it the update needs to write to the root firefox directory it probably then updates your firefox profile. As a normal user you cannot run the update and it never writes to your profile. I think it was just a poor update design for this one update. Hopefully the firefox team will fix it or fix this issue for future updates.

You could grab the latest firefox tarball from here and just untar it into your current firefox installation folder and restart.

Last I heard (I live just south of NASA, and I miss watching the shuttles go up), the return to space launch has been pushed out 2-3 months to May or June of 2005. It may even be pushed out to July depending on lanuch conditions.

Source (caution: may have popups, so use protection).

This source code is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Afghanistan (Taliban controlled areas), Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including Denied Parties, entities on the Bureau of Export Administration Entity List, and Specially Designated Nationals).

How realistic is it to keep this code away from these contries, and, more important, how fair is it to do so? Could the mozilla 1.0 code be significant for the international security? Or is it just paranoid? Why is a web browser dangerous?

And, what about IE?

Does accessing http://ftp.mozilla.org/ hang a very long time for you before showing anything? If so, you have IPv6 enabled in your distribution and have your firewall rules set to drop IPv6 connections. Disabling IPv6 in your distribution should fix the long wait when connecting. Here are SuSE's instructions to disabling IPv6 (hopefully they should work on other distributions also).

I wonder if you are having the same problem I did in SuSE Linux where if I had IPv6 enabled in the distro while simultaneously having firewall rules that dropped IPv6 connections, any attempts to make IPv6 connections ("ftp.mozilla.org" resolves to an IPv6 address) would hang for a very long time before falling back and resolving their IPv4 address and finally connecting. Does connecting to http://ftp.mozilla.org/ hang for a very long time for you before displaying anything?

I'm just curious if anybody knows how long this patch took to be released.

I'm just curious if anybody knows how long this patch took to be released.

They still have yet to fix a much more serious bug.

Just because most of us don't live in South America doesn't mean it isn't huge problem.

You must not be aware that the mozilla foundation has put out a bounty where they reward security researchers $500 for finding critical remotely-exploitable vulnerabilities and reporting them.

What you're seeing are the results of this program.. people are finding bugs, submitting them, and the bugs are being fixed before blackhats can exploit them.

This is a very wise decision on the part of Mozilla considering how close they are to a v1.0 release.

Goddamn. The things people do to run Windows... It makes me glad I use Linux.

I'll have to check that out, along with the sites you mentioned. I do a lot of web design myself, and I've found the W3C's site to be a pretty helpful reference for what I do, but I'm always interested in learning more from additional sources. Incidentally, another helpful tool when doing CSS is the EditCSS extension for Mozilla Firefox. It can save some time in trying to get everything looking just right.

This is only a minor setback. First, Web access to Hotmail through Outlook Express is the ONLY reason people like me are using OE in the first place. Now Hotmail is cutting off my last link to using them over Yahoo or Gmail.

This is a major boon for Thunderbird and projects like Yahoo Pops, where Yahoo mail free customers can configure Outlook Express or another superior mail client to HTML Parse their mail to and from a free web account that has a well known instant messanger associated with it.

Known vulnerabilities in Mozilla.

These would be numbers 83 and 89 on that list.

Actually Firefox is about starting with the bare essentials (no bloat) and then giving you the option of adding all the bloat you want.

I have a mere 72 extensions installed. And I love it. :-)

Have you tried some of the extensions to FireFox such as adblock or everybody's favourite: the Google bar? If you do any webwork then the Web Developer plugin is sure handy. If you haven't given FireFox a try recently I suggest you do and try some of the plug-ins a try too. If only I could figure out how to get that gestures plug-in to work...

Mind you, while I love using FireFox on Windows, on Linux I use Konqueror on KDE for the same reason you use Epiphany on Gnome.

Have you tried some of the extensions to FireFox such as adblock or everybody's favourite: the Google bar? If you do any webwork then the Web Developer plugin is sure handy. If you haven't given FireFox a try recently I suggest you do and try some of the plug-ins a try too. If only I could figure out how to get that gestures plug-in to work...

Mind you, while I love using FireFox on Windows, on Linux I use Konqueror on KDE for the same reason you use Epiphany on Gnome.

Have you tried some of the extensions to FireFox such as adblock or everybody's favourite: the Google bar? If you do any webwork then the Web Developer plugin is sure handy. If you haven't given FireFox a try recently I suggest you do and try some of the plug-ins a try too. If only I could figure out how to get that gestures plug-in to work...

Mind you, while I love using FireFox on Windows, on Linux I use Konqueror on KDE for the same reason you use Epiphany on Gnome.

Have you tried some of the extensions to FireFox such as adblock or everybody's favourite: the Google bar? If you do any webwork then the Web Developer plugin is sure handy. If you haven't given FireFox a try recently I suggest you do and try some of the plug-ins a try too. If only I could figure out how to get that gestures plug-in to work...

Mind you, while I love using FireFox on Windows, on Linux I use Konqueror on KDE for the same reason you use Epiphany on Gnome.

Stupid javascript-based links so that you can't read multiple messages if different tabs on Firefox.

Ah, but you can. The Hotmail Tabs extension adds just what you're looking for. One more reason that Firefox is the best browser ever.

Whats wrong with Thunderbird?

check your browser settings, i seem to remember IE having this ability on its own. and i know i've seen a plugin for moz somewhere.

Perhaps you are thinking of Internet Keywords:

How does it work?

The Location bar (Bugzilla component Browser:Location Bar) takes user input and converts it into a URL. If the user provides an absolute URL, the browser will get that page. In practice, this is very rare, so the URL bar uses a series of smart parsers to convert the user-typed string to a complete URL and retrieve the guessed page. The details of this URL resolution process are beyond the scope of this document. Suffice to say, this works most of the time.

Internet Keywords supplements the URL bar parsers in some cases. For example, words with spaces will go directly to Internet Keywords. Also, Domain Guessing is replaced by Internet Keywords. For example, "mozilla" will not be expanded to "http://www.mozilla.com"

Internet Keywords is turned via: (pref("keyword.enabled", true), which can be set in Preferences | Navigator | Smart Browsing | Internet Keywords.

If so, the URL bar sends the text to the keyword: protocol handler, which sends the text to the Internet Keyword server, by URL encoding the string at the end of the keyword URL set in: (pref("keyword.URL", )

The server response is displayed as the page, which could be anything, but usually are one of two things:

1. A re-direct to the "correct" page that the server thinks you wanted
2. A page.

I haven't used it, but it looks interesting.

Install Firefox and apply an IE-like skin - of course after testing that your webapps will still work. The security record of Firefox is not perfect, but it's a heck of a lot better than that of IE. If you prefer to pay money for security and support, you can always go for Opera instead.

Besides, if you're working in a company of 50 000, I'm sure you have a proper rollout-tool!

Actually, with the User Agent Switcher extension, I've been able to set my UA string to "Internet Explorer 6" and get to almost all of the sites I regularly browse to that claim that they require IE. Many sites claim that they require IE, but they don't really.

For those sites that really DO require IE (and for testing purposes, since I'm a web developer at work and, sadly almost all of our customers still use IE), I use the IE View extension.

Actually, with the User Agent Switcher extension, I've been able to set my UA string to "Internet Explorer 6" and get to almost all of the sites I regularly browse to that claim that they require IE. Many sites claim that they require IE, but they don't really.

For those sites that really DO require IE (and for testing purposes, since I'm a web developer at work and, sadly almost all of our customers still use IE), I use the IE View extension.

Mozilla, never heard of it. I'll make a note of it.

Search Bugzilla for open "Tech Evangelism" bugs (listed under the "Product" selectbox). I see 2389 right now.

... what, no firefox link? here you go you lazy slashdot editors:

Firefox, the greatest browser EVER!

Nope. :)

You don't! http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

Aint Mozilla under the Mozilla Public License? Don't this basicaly prevent you from making a closed source version based upon anything under MPL (which mozilla is)? OK, they could make a patch set and their own binaries, but do they intend to have an OSS (no, not free software because mozilla ain't free) browser? sadly, I doubt it.

Things licensed as Open Source do better on "just the facts" vs hype. Maybe it's because their audiences would take them to task if they did otherwise, but description of things such as GCC, Wikipedia , the Linux kernel, the GIMP, to name just a few, are completely factual. Not entirely free of marketing but tolerable are the Linux site's description of Linux, OpenSSH, bzip2, Project Gutenberg, and an XWindows organization X.org.

Particularly note Wikipedia and Google. The description of Wikipedia was made and chosen by the users. I can't think of a better testament that what users really want is just the facts. And Google understood that the last thing a person wants to do when anxious to find something quick is be forced to wait for a bunch of pointless graphics and generic ads to load. Really aggravating when on dial-up. Before Google, I got to where I knew just when to hit the stop button when loading Yahoo's main search page so I'd get the text input line and search button and miss all the extra crap they used to put on their main page.

Of course open source isn't totally above marketing. FreeBSD, Mozilla Firefox, KDE, Apache, OpenOffice all lay it on. They can point to all kinds of statistics to justify their hype, but the hype is still irritating when it catches my attention. These are easy to accept in spite of the marketspeak because I've heard from elsewhere that they're good.

Bad though some of those are, Microsoft is worse. Maybe what MS does should be called extreme marketing? In a few moments of searching, I was unable to find even a badly overblown description of just what Windows XP or MS Office is and during the search was wading through hype about MS's latest whatever: "Try the new digital music experience from Microsoft. You'll love it!"

As for throwing out the baby with the bathwater, I will spend a little time trying not to do that, but when it does happen I hope it clues the promoters in to realizing they made the waters too murky. Accepting something in spite of murk is not the way to persuade them to clean up. I like to tell them about it too. You never know when commentary might actually be heeded. I'm sorry if a good thing gets short shrift, but when time is limited, books will be judged by covers. People are often asked to try to word emails so spam filters will pass them. I feel I'm not asking too much of marketing to do the analogous.

XUL is a great concept, but it will be a while before it's ready to develop decent apps in.

At the moment, there are bugs preventing things as simple as an itunes style datasheet - where you can click in a field and an editbox appears for editing. Even the nearest workaround has a bug attached to it.

XUL's a great theory, but if it were as great as the hype machine says it is, we'd be seeing a crapload more XUL apps by now.

checkout http://wiki.mozilla.org/XULDev?NeilsWishlist to see some of the things XUL needs to be ready for the primetime.

Firefox > Firebird
It's not even called Firebird anymore. You should really give some newer builds a try, like the Firefox 1.0 Preview Release.

Firefox != Mozilla
Firefox is much faster than Mozilla, don't bitch about speed if you choose to try the bloated version only and opted to skip the lightweight, streamlined product.

Thunderbird : Mozilla Mail :: Firefox : Mozilla Browser
And just in case you need a superior email client, give Thunderbird a try.

Firefox > Firebird
It's not even called Firebird anymore. You should really give some newer builds a try, like the Firefox 1.0 Preview Release.

Firefox != Mozilla
Firefox is much faster than Mozilla, don't bitch about speed if you choose to try the bloated version only and opted to skip the lightweight, streamlined product.

Thunderbird : Mozilla Mail :: Firefox : Mozilla Browser
And just in case you need a superior email client, give Thunderbird a try.

Firefox > Firebird
It's not even called Firebird anymore. You should really give some newer builds a try, like the Firefox 1.0 Preview Release.

Firefox != Mozilla
Firefox is much faster than Mozilla, don't bitch about speed if you choose to try the bloated version only and opted to skip the lightweight, streamlined product.

Thunderbird : Mozilla Mail :: Firefox : Mozilla Browser
And just in case you need a superior email client, give Thunderbird a try.

Um...where were you last week? http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vul nerabilities.html#mozilla1.7.3 It's time to patch that Mozilla browser - now!

May want to look at this (in particular the last comment):

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226572


Interesting eh?

Was my post informative? Help me get a free flat screen by completing 1 silly little offer. I need one to go with my free iPod.

Firefox already does that. (Well, it doesn't exactly track you, and it only displays relevant ads if you want it to.)

Why do this? They should just add to the **better** browser (mozilla.org)

Does the source code count if I download it and build my own binary?

They have an RSS feed, so if you have your shiny new mozilla 1.0PR, then you can easily make it a live bookmark.

Just click on the lightning bolt in the bottom left corner of the browser. It's really neat :)

Sorry to all of those who have been using RSS feeds forever.. I just got hooked :)

I'm on FF 0.8 ... Debian Unstable

LOL! Kernel 2.0.40 still the default too? Hahahaa

Download the installer and install it to your home directory for now if you want. Then in 2007 when the deb's come out, you can keep your profile, and just delete the directory you install it to.

Mozilla Firefox is a counter-example to your claim.

Interesting project, although I think building a lean browser from the ground up is the better approach compared to trying to strip the bloat off Mozilla.

I think that anyone who has ever built a rendering engine capable of displaying even 95% of today's websites would beg to differ with you. Mozilla's Gecko rendering engine is the most capable standards supporting code available. Minimo is an attempt to get that rendering engine leaned down some and running on small devices.

I've spent some time testing Minimo on an iPaq and it rocks. It can handle just about any web page you throw at it, like Mozilla and Firefox, and it fits in your pocket :-)

--Asa

That would be bug 231062. Currently stuck, and I assume help would be welcome. Looks like they want to use WiX for it but can't find people who would be able to write up the needed files.

(That link to mozilla isn't gonna work; drag it to the tab bar please.)

It's Minimo.

Interesting project, although I think building a lean browser from the ground up is the better approach compared to trying to strip the bloat off Mozilla.

Saves so much inks when printing directions.

Camino is a damn sleek alernative to Firefox for OS X. It doesn't have as many features or extensions like Firefox, but its minimalism is quite appealing.

Do you have a reference to this intention?
First sentence