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1 Million Firefoxes in 4 Days
Dodger73 writes "The Mozilla guys would have liked to reach 1 Million downloads of the Firefox 1.0 pre-release version within ten days of its release. After four days, the download counter now shows 1,006,060 downloads, surpassing the 10^6 mark more than twice as fast as they desired! Congratulations!"
How about adding a few more downloads?! Get it here.
Tabbed windows, 1. Everything else, 0.
Love the Third Amendment?
Most of the people who suddenly downloaded the update were probably already using a prior version of Firefox. I would seriously doubt that this represents anything like 1 million new users.
True 1 million is 1 million, but I for one downloaded it at home, and twice at work. Once for the windows box, and once for the linux box.
Saying "I'll probably get modded down for this", is a magnet for my -1 mod token. I hate to disappoint.
behold the power of wget and a script. Lets you really rack up the ol' hit counter.
Display some adaptability.
I nagged some dude at work who brought his XP box to work to hook into the DSL and get his M$ updated to
also download Firefox, so that was 1 more, anyway.
sweet. firefox has got to be by far the coolest, most "right on" web browser i've ever used. I tried using IE the other day at work. *cringe* i missed my firefox. it's not surprise that so many people in the downloading public obviously agree.
:) thought i'd share. ;)
way to go firefox team.
ps: speaking of firefoxes.. i got some booty last nite
http://www.digifuzz.net
No prize for the 1 million-th downloader? Such as a cool firefox t-shirt?
I installed Firefox for the first time yesterday. It worked pretty well! I wish I could uninstall Internet Explorer using a program like XP Lite. My concern is that I would not be able to use Windows Update. If Firefox could run Windows Update I would remove IE permanently.
I suspect that most of the downloads were made by the existing Firefox users who wanted to upgrade to the new version.
What we need is some way to get 1,000,000 new Firefox users and increase Firefox's numbers at the expense of MSIE.
This will encourage (or perhaps even force) shoddy web designers to design more standards-compliant sites and make life a lot easier for designers who already do. If only IE7 supported the Mac version of MSIE...
Mission accomplished. Now we can all stop bothering...
I like the new find bar on the bottom of the window... way better than it poping up.
Ambient [Servlet Based Webapp Engine]
Well I think they deserve the attention. About a week ago I wined about things I thought Firefox and Thunderbird could not do, but I switched and I must say it's far better than I expected. This is a great browser. I especially like the way almost everything is configurable. I think I'll stick to this for a long time to come.
-- Cheers!
The Power of a half decent image editor...
Hell on my mirror it's been downloaded 1.2 billion times, but you can't see the image because it's being blocked by adblock....
I just hope this leads web-developers to eventually test and validate their pages with something else than IE.
I am always so annoyed with the "Your browser is not supported" mesage...
Reporter: "Mr. Gate$, what do you think of Firefox?"
Gate$: "I think its a myth. There are foxes and then there are foxes. There is no such thing as a Fire fox. And now if you'd excuse me, there is a Long Horn up my ass, I have to go see someone abt it."
Copies are spread through many other sources so the actual amount of downloads is probably much more than the download counter indicates!
Congrats Firefox!
Things that impressed them the most over their first ~5 mins.
1. Tabbed Browsing
2. Ability to set multiple pages as home pages.
3. Sleek look.
4. Small download size.
I guess the popup blocker didn't make as much of an impact because of 3rd party blockers/etc that they had installed and functional.
Go Firefox!
An Indian-American Hindu committed to non-violent thought/speech/action alarmed by the global explosion of radical Islam
The layout issue for slashdot is STILL present in this version (the linked version of Firefox, XP SP2).
Someone said it was fixed somewhere - I don't seem to have got that.
Firefox 0.8 had only 3 million downloads in 4 months and with only 100 hours more than a million downloads of 1.0PR!
The community must spread this kind of initiative to other projects.
Okay, I probably downloaded it more times than was really necessary, but they were all for different computers. Two for Win98, one for Win95, and one for MacOS X.
Something I don't think has been promoted enough is that Firefox works brilliantly on older computers. I've got an old Win95 machine that I use for when I need to use Microsoft Office (OpenOffice.org is great, but sometimes I need the real MS thing), and was trying to update the IE 4 that it's currently stuck with. Is it possible? I've no idea. I was bounced around various Microsoft download pages, unable to find something that suited Windows 95 - all the system requirements for newer versions of IE given were at least Win98...
Contrast this with Firefox. Visit the Mozilla site, and it guesses which version of Firefox you should need from the User-Agent string of your existing browser. Big link on front page, click on it to download, and minutes later you're in a new browser.
There are many, many older computers around, and before not it was too easy to get stuck with an out-of-date browser. There were alternatives, but Firefox has become the easiest of the lot - it's incredibly simple to upgrade to something secure and modern. It's brilliant!
Tedious Bloggy Stuff - hooray?
That's 1,000,000 potential people annoyed with Slashdot's dodgy rendering in Firefox.
Surely somebody here could fix it?
Well I downloaded it and then cut it to a cd to pass on to a friend so make that 1,006,061 downloads!
What vulnerability are you talking about? Last one I remember was the shell:// thing, but that was a long time ago.
And since the good guys cannot always win (unless you live in an hollywood movie), it is time to prepare a nice chroot jail in which to run our beloved browser (and maybe the mail client as well).
Ciao
----
FB
what about you guys
The lunatic is in my head
Okay, I admit it. I downloaded 999,942 of those copies. I was stress testing the download mirrors they've passed. They can survive a good slashdotting.
I've already stress tested the websites of Mono, OpenOffice, Debian, Gentoo, Mandrake, Fedora, SuSE, and other open source apps. They all pass too.
You don't honestly think that open source is that popular, do you?
(Okay, sacrasm aside, yes, there are multiple downloads. In your case, you had three downloads for two computers, but I think this is the exception. One download can serve more than one computer and in an office or "sneaker net" setting, that's the most likely outcome)
Hmm, that's funny, cause I'm running two copies of it and it hasn't crashed on me yet. One on my machine and one on my girlfriend's.
/. user that actually has a g/f!
Yes, a
Is it just me, or does this release seem buggier than 0.9.3? I've have it crash a few times in the last few days, and I've noticed a few popups getting through. 0.9.3 worked flawlessly for me. Anyone else noticing problems? I do like the RSS integration, although the new Find dialog I'm still getting used to. Also, they got rid of my alternate stylesheet icon for sites that only have two choices ("No Style" and the default one), so now I have to go to View -> Page Style to get it). :(
by pro-life I suppose you mean 1000+ American kids and 22,000 innocent Iraqi's killed in Iraq? Great dumbass...
A woman has the right to do whatever she wants with her body.
I can't believe noone mentioned Kevin Karpenske who kindly donated the firefox.com domain to the mozilla guys.
Kudos to Kevin for demonstrating a great deal of kindness in supporting our favourite browser..
groklaw, wired and slashdot. The holy trinity of work based time wasting.
...how many box with XP preinstalled sold during september?
The important thing is that people are now realizing that they actually have a choice. That's the first step.
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
Unless you mean you're a pirate and got some buried treasure. Which could mean the same thing, since pirates are kinda in the Navy.
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
... they won't REALLY have hit the big time with Firefox until they get sued by SCO!
"He who throws mud, loses ground." - proverb
This is the real kicker that helped me convert a LOT of people over to Firefox - and these are people who honestly couldn't give a stuff about computers, let alone web browsers! The ability to right-click and remove an entire advertising server in one go really put a fire under the rollout. We (in the IT dept) have had calls from loads of people to come and install "that cool web browser thing that stops adverts" since it appeared.
;-)
Whilst installing/configuring Firefox, we also usually find spyware all over the place due to the users trying to use shite-ware browser bars etc to stop adverts (in reality they just end up with more). On one PC, as soon as IE was launched there were popups with porn ads all over the screen - how the guy managed to get any work done I'll never know... maybe he didn't, come to think of it
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
Here is a script I made to install firefox(one for thunderbird and sunbird too)1.0PR or Nightly on linux.It really easy to use.
d &name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=26413&foru m=11&start=0
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloa
From the author's page:
I once had a signature.
I've been looking at ways to automatically deploy it using MSI files, and switch the default browser to it across the company network.
Even though I limit peoples permissions they still get spyware. When things get bad especially for people who need admin access to their machines for legacy apps, I have to reinstall Windows2k. Not fun.
Wait till we get version 1.2 or something, and people can confidently install it in the corporate.
Then start counting.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
ok, so my first cup is still brewing.
... ;D
still i had to actually stop and think when i saw that 10^6. that's _ten_ million, isn't it?
now awaiting that first cuppa so i can restart thinking
I am kind of puzzled by why Mozilla FireFox is hip.
As a user of Mozilla regularly since Version 1.6 (I'm running 1.7.3 right now), Mozilla has pretty much most of the more useful features in FireFox, especially the tabbed browsing windows and popup blocker. And I do like Mozilla 1.7.3's excellent mail and news reader, too.
I really wonder what their counting method is. I imagine they just look in the web server logs and see how many people downloaded the different binary packages and add them together. But what about people like me who emerge -u firefox? Do we get counted?
1 million is great, and like every poster here has said. The count isn't close to accurate. So let us now aim for 2 million!
The GeekNights podcast is going strong. Listen!
And an order of magnitude more Iraqis...
"That's 1,000,000 potential people"....one day i hope to be a person but i think i will always be a kinetic robot....do you think firefox could help me?
stendec@gmail.com
You, sir, are using Win95 and Win98.
You are wrong here my friend!
Now if you had complained about the lack of a DOS version, that would have been an other story.
Dean: "Take back your country"
Firefox: "Take back the web"
Now all we need is for an RPM of 1.0pr to appear in the Fedora update repository, which does not seem to have happened as yet.
I guess this is the first time where posting a torrent would probably get flamed .
:(
BTW, I did my part, downloaded FF for the first time and after a few key plugins were installed, I was sold. Good-bye Opera
MOD PARENT DOWN.
Referral link tracking whore.
the image one like the jpeg in IE one
I thought you was trolling until you mentioned George Bush, now I know you was trolling. ;)
Jonathanjk.com
on three different computers in three different locations. soon to do some more...
I downloaded it 4 times. 1 for my office comp, 1 for my mac, one for my home pc and one for my girlfriends pc.
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I'm running on a lousy P2 (451 MHz) and 256 RAM at home... working up the cash to build a new compy with an Athalon, but 'till then this is all I've got. Anyway, I've been using Firefox for the past three releases,and I've only had one problem with it: it runs nicely once it's open, but it takes forever to do so. I'm wondering if this is just inherent in Firefox, if it's going to be fixed in later releases or if it's just my lousy compy.
"No one ever wants to eat more than half of what's left of the last doughnut. That's why I call it 'Xeno's Doughnut.'"
I can't believe this. 1.0PR is a *down*-grade from 0.9.3. Because:
1) Switching tabs does not update the window title. WTF?! I don't want my window to have the wrong title! It isn't the first tab or anything like that. Just whichever one it likes.
2) I don't want a fucking top bar every time a popup is blocked. What was wrong with the icon at the bottom? Oh yeah, SP2 added their "Information Bar" crap, so Firefox has to have it! What if the popup comes up after a few seconds? Does all the page content move down to allow for their Information Bar thing? (I don't know, somebody tell)
3) When you stop loading a page, its favicon still stays instead of the other site's one. Now you can read the old page with a completely unrelated favicon. Ooh, great!
4) I don't know why, but the automated installing extensions thing doesn't work (for Shockwave at least). Looked cool though.
5) I stay focused in this text box, switch tabs, and I can keep typing into this box. Obviously I should be find-as-you-type-ing into the new tab.
The only cool new thing is the bottom Find-as-you-type bar.
Maybe my installation is messed up?
What does Iraq have to do with terrorism? Seriously.
It is a bug in the rendering of html on-the-fly whilst the page is still loading. It is likely the chance of the bug showing itself depends on the TCP/IP sockets implementation, CPU speed, and connection speed. In short, it happens alot for some people, and never for others.
It has been driving me mad.
I believe the bug will be fixed in Firefox 1.1
Buffer overflow in the graphics renderer.
With almost every release of Mozilla based products, we fix security bugs. We announce those security bugs when we release, that's our standard operating procedure. See http://www.mozilla.org/security/ and http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vul nerabilities.html.
We're very proud of our new Security Bug Bounty program which went into effect well before the Firefox PR shipped. That program helped us identify and fix several more security bugs than might have otherwise been fixed in this release.
The PR was actually release a couple of weeks behind schedule, in part due to our being busy working on fixing a couple of security and privacy issues. We certainly didn't "throw together a preview for the sake of not having to announce it as a fix for major exploits." What actually happened was that we announced the security fixes to the public and to security research firms like Secunia when we shipped PR. They found out about the problem because we shipped and we disclosed the bugs -- our normal process.
You seem to have the misconception that the security issues were about to be disclosed so we rushed a release out. That's just not the case. It was the Mozilla Foundation that made the security disclosures. We do that each time we ship a new release that has security related bug fixes.
--Asa
I'm probably way behind the Slashdot curve here, but I finally switched over to Mozilla a few months ago after IE started to routinely crash, even after updates and a new firewall/anti-virus. I didn't like Mozilla all that much (it felt a bit clunky), but it worked and was reasonably fast so I stuck with it.
I just got the new release of Firefox a few days ago after a friend recommended it, and I think I have just found my new favorite browser. It has the same streamlined look that I had customized on my old IE setup, but without the MS junk and frequent crashes. Its very fast too, and tabs seem like a great feature (I used to just open everything in a new window before Mozilla.)
I'm basically stuck with a crappy operating system because of gaming and office fonts, but its nice to know that I'm not stuck with IE if I want a fast streamlined browser.
Just downloaded the thing, it's pretty slick. I couldn't be bothered by trying out other browsers before, but since I was bored anyway I thought this occasion would be a good time to try it... I don't think I'll be going back to IE anytime soon =]
The 1 million downloads are only from english-speaking people. The german version for example is not translated yet. I guess that a few 100,000 users alone in germany, austria and swiss would download the final version.
So the counter would be much higher, if other languages were finished.
wow... you really are insane, aren't you?
Kevin Gerich (who, along with Stephen Horlander created the default theme for Firefox) has done some really nice Firefox replacement widgets at his weblog- check them out and install them, they are very nice.
I downloaded mine from linuxpackages.net (Slackware package prebuilt). So mine along with half the people at the office wasn't counted. So I guess you win some and you loose some in downloads too.
If the mozilla page www.mozilla.org would recognize which language the user who loads the page would probably want and give it to him/her than there would be even more downloaders.
I know a lot of "potential customers" who'd love to download a IE alternative but only if it is in their native language.
Why does Mozilla seem to be the only not internationalized page out there
Any idea why I can't use the space bar to space down a page? And why the down arrow key jerks to the bottom of the page.
Not a troll, juts curious if there's a setting.
I cant comprehend why they blame windows for firefox displaying the windows icon.[ they say its a bug in windows] - when actually they should have included the intended firefox icon as " main-window" file
Couldnt firefox do it>?
has it been corrected atleast in Ver. 1.0 PR
Why does yahoo do this
Yo Zordas, I wasn't going to reply to such an obvious nut job, but then I noticed you spelled my name wrong. Twice. And that REALLY ticked me off.
So, in case you have forgotten, terrorists had nothing to do with Iraq, until AFTER the US invaded. Attacking Iraq has not made anybody safer, it has only presented bin Laden with a multitude of recruitment opportunities.
But that is probably too nuanced a distinction for you. In your little world view, Iraq, Iran, Afghanastan, hell, they are all Muslims. They MUST be terrorists.
Whee that was fun. But now it is time for me to get back to my flag burning, America hating, baby kicking daily routine. Cheers mate.
Download my free songs!
I downloaded it once and installed it on replicated NFS servers for a Fortune 100 company with over 20,000 UNIX/Linux users. The Fedora, SUSE, and Debian maintainers download it once each for a total of millions of users. It takes a lot of multiple-downloaders like you to equal a few people like me and them, so I wouldn't assume that there's fewer than one million users. There might be quite a few more than a million from those million downloads.
I won't respond in kind to your expletive, but I will acknowledge that the right of an infant to safety and the chance of a healthy birth does indeed supersede rationalizations against and attempts to cut that life short. Support the rights of unborn women just as much as those who were born. Infanticide is barbaric, even moreso than war. Unfortunately, this is off-topic here. Slashdot should consider posting an abortion issue in the politics section. This is, after all, the primary issue of the 2004 campaign for a very large and growing number of Americans.
http://tinyurl.com/4ny52
IMHO it's a big mistake to make create such a hype on the web for the prerelease version:
* there are still some nasty bugs in there (like some HTML rendering), so they should have waited for a proper 1.0
* many cool plugins and themes haven't been updated for 1.0PR - which would demonstrate the full power of FF
* I can see many avarage Joes downloading 1.0PR and never updating it - jeust because of the buzz
* maybe they should have started the hype, when FF and Thunderbird were ready for 1.0 - so they could offer both in a bundle?
* I still think many major features are either to hidden or need a plugin: mouse gestures should be in by default and 'search in page' is way toooo geeky
* there should be better mechanisms in the software / first startup to make users download their 'usual' plugins (they already have in IE) like Flash, QuickTime and RealPlayer - so that FF will work properly with their usual sites
I wondered how many people would allow this junk to be installed, unknowing what it really does.
Firefox/Mozilla's success is all great and wonderful, but some guys are already starting to make junks to mess with FF/Mozilla. Beware.
Since everyone and their dog could potentially be using Firefox in the future, could this be a bad thing? Crackers and Viruses galore for Firefox or would the open source team be able to deal with them? Not that I don't like Firefox, I love it. It's just that Viruses spread best on the most popular systems.
Wake me when it hits 2^20...
liar!... women dont know howto use a computer properly
"Oh, since this is slashdot, don't forget to vote for pro-life George W. Bush on Nov. 2. :)"
That's right, be a mono-dimensional voter.
Look folks, this is probably going to be *the* most important election in America since the Civil War and Lincoln's second term. Please, PLEASE, do vote and do look at a lot more than just one of the issues out there (I hate late-term abortion, but I'm voting for Kerry: It's a package deal, remember?)
So please, PLEASE, get out and register to vote and then vote!
And, by the by, for all you fence-sitters and Republicans that like the Republican platform and think Mr. Bush is your man this year, I got news for you.
If you're not earning 10 million dollars a year you should just vote Democratic this year because you're not going to be in the Republican club; you're not going to be a part of their Republican America.
Not now.
Not never.
I think most (decent) web designers check their work for some compatibility with browsers like mozilla/firefox.
IE is still the browser used by the vast majority of visitors (like it or not), so that is and should be the main target for any professional web designer. Even if you don't like IE yourself, you work for a client and should respect their wishes.
However, the market share of other browsers is growing, and we should all realise that that relatively small percentage of visitors should be able to visit the website as well.
Honesty, I don't go out of my way to get pages identical to the pixel in all browsers, but I ensure that firefox-users have a pretty good user experience too. Getting it pixel-perfect usually is qutie some work (IE's quirks are mostly at fault there), but giving all visitors an acceptable user experience is really not that hard!
Why not save it for the actual release? And why not call it 2.0 instead... it sounds more stable than 1.0
for some reason, 1.0 stopped ofefring dropdown lists of user ids for loins - .9 would offer up the names as you typed - so j would yield all ids starting with j, etc. Couldn't find an option to reenable that feature.
Even though it can pretend to be IE6, some sites still don't work. Our corporate T&E site uses Great Plain's web time/expense app, and soem applets refuse to run, making the site unusuable.
Firefox is, however my default browser for 99% of my web browsing.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
I just went to that site(to test it) with 1.0PR and I got a bar at the top of the page that says, "To protect your computer, Firefox prevented the site (xxxtoolbar.com) from installing software on your computer." People can still allow sites to install software, but that requires conscious effort to put the site in the preferences.
I've been keeping my systems pretty current with mozilla -- what (if anything) do I loose on the browser side by going with firefox rather than moz?
Word game?
...I convinced my dad to stop using IE, but the lack of offline support in Firefox pissed him off within a week.
I remember that bug but it only happened with one particular build for me something like Phoenix .6 or such. I've been using Phoenix/firebird/firefox since day one and I only saw that bug for a very short period. It was annoying but a reload always fixed it.
.10 and have not seen it yet. Like I said, odd that 25% of the time you have that problem and yet I haven't seen it in 6 months. Are you using non-standard fonts, an odd-ball resolution?
I've also read slashdot daily for years so I'm surprised I don't see often as others claim they do. I am now of course using
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
An interesting start would be to count the number of downloads from MSIE user agents...
perception is reality
Last time I checked, Mozilla was a bloated pig, incapable of being built from scratch on a stock RedHat system without a lot of work. I dumped Mozilla then and have never gone back to it.
So, can anyone knowledgeable please comment on the current state of it today? Can one actually build it without any fuss?
I notice that there's no easy link to downloading the source code on Mozilla.org. It seems like I'm going to have to hunt around for that one, which is not a good sign.
If anyone could provide a URL to it, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
By downloading Firefox 25 times to my home machine and 18 times to my work machine (I was going for more, but my boss walked in on me and told me to stop goofing off)!
# while(true)h tml?http%3A//ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firef ox/releases/0.10/firefox-1.0PR-i686-linux-gtk2+xft -installer.tar.gz
do
wget http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/download.
sleep 1s
done
It does not interact with WU, but it does have an up-to-date install for all XP updates pre-SP2. They are currently working on it for Windows 2000 and 2003 as well. Check it out: www.autopatcher.com
"0101100101? It's just jibberish. *looks in mirror, gasps* 1010011010@!? AHHHHHH!!"
wrong. dick.
Although I would love to see Firefox do well, they do face some stiff challenges. I have been unable to use the scroll on my Synaptics touch pad and a mouse for months, and I have posted on all forums, yet I have not got a solution to it.
2 73&highlight=scroll/ not a single user has a clue on how to solve it.
People just visit the Firefox support forum to make complaints, there is nobody to solve them.
Take a look at this posting I made in the Mozillazine forum.. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=127
Oh, and btw... anyone who read the Bible knows that God himself (if you're primitive enough to believe fairytales and myths) was not "pro-life" in the abortion sense. He wasn't exactly "pro-choice" either, though, since he forced abortions. (He was a ruthless, childish bastard in many other ways, but we can take that another time.)
liar!... women dont know howto use a computer properly
See, that attitude is what keeps you single.
Depending on what you chose during installation, Mozilla Suite has a Quick Launch icon in the tray (which some insist isn't called the tray). So does Firefox. What problems have you been having?
Or you kould run Firefox's rendering kode inside Konqueror. But would that put you in the KKK?
70% of americans are pro-choice. Notmuch debate in that.
Who's counting all the people who just emerged Firefox with Gentoo? I'll bet there's a good sized handful of downloads there too.
Direct away from face when opening.
patrons of #gallery and #wordpress on FREEnode got me curious of FireFox. so i decided to give it a try, this was a couple months ago. it was version .8 and lo and behold the download and install took less than 5 minutes.
popup blocking and the Google bar are my favorite features.. along with tabbed-browsing, themes/extensions and its pal, ThunderBird. i've switched for good. imho, IE is good for Windows-tweaks and system updates, nothing more.
all 4 computers in my house now all use FireFox and Thunderbird. upgrades were painless. highly recommended. using .10PR now. highlighted HTTPS address bar? search while you type? why didn't MS think of it first eh? :>
I unfortunetly added to that counter. I downloaded it, installed it, and have used it for a few days and find it absolutely horrible. The only plus of FireFox is it's fast, but otherwise it's quite painful to use.
It's only Extremeists that have the attitude that everyone should convert to Islam or die, thats not the belief of the general Muslim population.
In the same way its only the christian fundamentalists who believe that if you don't except Jesus as your personal saviour you will burn forever in Hell.
The majority of people on both sides are perfectly happy for both religions to coexist. By attacking the Muslim population you only persuade more of them to side with the extemeists. If instead we could be tolerant of other religions and cultures the majority of people would see the extremeists for what they are and they would have very limited support and cease to be a threat to anyone.
Instead of thinking "They hate us, they hate our freedoms, they would kill us all if they had a chance", why not think, "There are a few people on both sides with extreme beliefs but most people just want to get along"
"Taligent is still pure vapor. Maybe they'll be the last who jumps up on Openstep... "
Can anyone post a link to the firefox download stats?
I use Firefox as my main browser, but throughout its development, the Firefox team have shown a casual disregard for compatibility and QA in general. While I understand that it hasn't hit 1.0 yet and can cope with this, I wouldn't want to subject normal users to this.
For instance, I upgraded, and now theme support is totally broken, my home button does nothing after clicking on it, extensions keep telling me that they "will be enabled/disabled/uninstalled/whatever next time Firefox restarts" no matter how many times I restart it, the find feature is completely broken, and cursor keys have stopped working in text boxes.
If this is the sort of compatibility users get when they move from one version to the next, I honestly can't recommend it to anybody I like.
Sounds reasonable enough. Thanks for the explanation.
Let the hunt begin!
See, that attitude is what keeps you single.
:D Like a lot of men, I'm a "egotistical" fanatical provider, which among other things, leads to an almost singular locus.
;)
No, actually, it depends on what "women" is to you. Every man has their own locus of charactaristics that draws their attention, including nerd/non-nerd. I am of the opinion that women don't know how to use computers properly, but since I can be honest with myself, I know thats because thats how I like it
Unfortunately, there are less and less suitable "women" as society becomes more and more "progressive", so much so today that the process of natural selection is working against guys like us. This is somewhat irritating, since natural selection has pretty much taken a back seat since the advent of modern medicine, and there is no "shallow end of the gene pool" any longer. Consult the biology textbooks you saved from college (haha) and look up "percieved suitability". Anyone can get plasic surgury and look like reproductive gold
Nowadays, all these "women" that come from broken families are just looking for a shrimp (like their dads) that they can easily convince to divorce if things get tough. More of the rest are buying the feminist "self-centered masculinism". Thats all it boils down to.
Oh well, no one said being a real man was easy.
the find bar has to be the active bar in order for the ESC key work (close it), i.e., the cursor inside the find bar has to be blinking.
It's Minimo.
Interesting project, although I think building a lean browser from the ground up is the better approach compared to trying to strip the bloat off Mozilla.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
``Something I don't think has been promoted enough is that Firefox works brilliantly on older computers.''
I honestly think Opera does a much better job there. I find Firefox dog slow to launch and only barely acceptable in use (on a modern computer), whereas Opera just blazes away.
On the other hand, Firefox is overtaking Opera in functionality and configurability, and is much more tolerant of broken web pages.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
It'll be interesting to see the windfall when all those people who downloaded it realize the "pr" means it's not going to work perfectly.
That said, I'm not very happy that I upgraded.
Direct away from face when opening.
hey, this doesn't even include users from distros like debian who don't download their firefox direct from the site! way to go!
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
wonder how many others there are that did not get a chance to download the newest of the best yet. expect to see more downloads soon :)
First off, I'd like to say congrats to the Mozilla Foundation, cause damn- great browser, and a lot of downloads for 100 hours...
What I want to know is how SpreadFirefox.com measures the downloads. Is it just run by the Mozilla Foundation and counts the download link? That's most likely, but it does approximate... I hope this isn't just propoganda.
Lastly, I wonder how many of these downloads are people that download it, install it, and then delete it and switch back to IE? Although that seems ludacris to me (I love Firefox), I'm sure that the IE addiction remains. I hope that this counter represents growing popularity, and not just geeks with 0.9.3 upgrading to 1.0...
- Code Dark
How many would keep it anyway? Would this be a new way of measuring things; like tv ratings? c'mon guys, stop counting and start working!
This is not suprising given the fact that the site runs on CivicSpace.
This is the funded continuation of DeanSpace, the Drupal-based grassroots campaigning software created for and used in Howard Dean's campaign.
And it's all open-source too.
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236791
Silicon.com is carrying the news that Mozilla/Firefox usage is up to 5.2% of visitors to ecommerce and corporate sites, up from 3.5% in June. Internet Explorer usage over the same timeframe fell from 95.5% to 93.7%. This makes sense as many web developers have been adopting Firefox very quickly (w3schools Gecko usage is at 17.7%) as well as techies and alpha-geeks (Engadget Gecko usage is at 23% and News.com Gecko usage is up to 18%). Usage among non-geeks is expected to grow as more positive mainstream press reports recommend ditching IE for Firefox.
Portable versions of Firefox, GIMP, LibreOffice, etc
and 90% of all statistics are made up on the spot. You must also realize that the media is very "pro-choice". And when they do portray pro-life people they tend to show them as the radical nut jobs who bomb abortion centers. Or show the extremist pro-lifers who say abortion is wrong in every case. Most pro-lifers are far more moderate and when some people ask for their view they could easily put them the pro-choice catagory because there know of reasons for abortion. Myself and a lot of other "pro-lifers" Think abortion should be legal for such reasons as the case where the mother could suffer grate harm or death from child birth. And Rape (although I think there should be a cort decision that it is rape) but I oppose using abortion as a form of birth control (which is a good percentage of the population truly opposes) there is the argument that the woman has the right to do with their body. Which I beleave as well. But the unborn fetus is not truly part of her body. It has a different genetic code all together. As well as the woman has the right to refuse unsafe sex and make her own decisions about the consequences of her own actions. As well I also beleave that there should be a lot more effort finding the deadbeat father, who should compensate the trouble he as well caused the woman and do his part to care for the child at least finically hopefully more.
Nice one Kevin.
As much as I want to use Firefox on my mac, I've had no luck getting it to import my bookmarks from a file. I click next, and the window closes.
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I'm really surprised I haven't seen many comments relating to this.
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http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA04-261A
Two days ago, CERT accounced that there were multiple vulnerabilities in Mozilla products. The only unaffected version of Firefox is PR1.0. It is doubtless that this caused a number of downloads of existing installs who would have chosen to not run the Preview Release.
Them hitting their 1mil marker isn't neccesarily a good thing.
I congratulate the firefox developers on such a momentous occasion. 64 downloads! Who would have thought!
About FF supposedly being aimed towards Windows, I'm not going to believe that unless you have a credible source to cite.
However, one thing that irks me about the Moz team is how Firefox's default behavior is quite different in Linux and in Windows. In Windows, if you middle-click on the tab bar at the top, the tab closes. In Linux, the middle click by default wants to open a new page with a link from the clipboard which, more often than not, is not a valid URL and generates an annoying error message. To fix this, you just have to go into the about:config, and change the middleclick.openURL (I think..) to 'false'.
Another thing.. In Windows, if you middle click in a page, you can scroll up and down. In Linux, again, you have to enable this in the about:config.
Since FF is supposed to be a multi-platform browser, I really wish they would make the default behavior consistent between platforms. I don't want to have to twiddle in the config to get it working like it's supposed to.
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What's so important about a pre-release? They would have +1 downloadloads from me if it were the final. I don't understand why they're putting an emphasis on the pre-release. Isn't it only for early adopters and testers?
Troll huh. I'll play.
I've installed 1.0PR on three machines as a clean install. All three of them lose their bookmarks after each firefox restart. Plus they don't show up in the toolbar anymore using drag and drop.
Some extensions won't install complaining about version = 0.9.3 required, even though they are the same xpi files as found on the authors website; which install just fine outside of updates.mozilla.org.
The Live bookmarks has serious issues with XML, mimetypes and certain feeds.
Mark it as you will, but 1.0PR blow goats compared to 0.9.3.
some of them are starting to ask me about this Mozilla thing! You know it's catching fire when the gun-toting hunting types want to know about it.
How'd they hear about it? Some anti-adware programs and stuff recommend installing it.
So 2 points - it's getting out there (obviously), and word of mouth is still the best tool - and with an app as slick as Firefox, you're going to get plenty of that
Berto
IT just goes to show that if there is a quality reliable alternative to internet explorer the people will come.
BUT to be honest with you I would have thought that the download counter would have been even higher than that.
Does anyone have that stat? THAT would be useful!
P.S.
If you (want to) full-text search your bookmarks && use Mozilla or Firefox, check out this search plugin for Mozilla/Firefox. Ah, you need an account there? Just use this demo account for now.
Simpy
Of course I could use the message box errors, but those are just annoying (even more so with tabbed browsing, because you're more likely to be loading pages in the background).
I think the real thing about this isn't the actual number of total downloads. Like the name of the website says, people are encouraged to spread firefox among friends etc. And IMO it works. Many users converting to firefox. And this is it what spreadfirefox.com is all about.
after becoming the spyware remover master, i have switched to moz for good. IE only when needed for compatibility, which is luckily very few times. only thing i need it for is outlook web access on exchange 5.5 server. sigh.
I made my own RPM based on Mr Chung's directions for an earlier version of Firefox, before he posted his 1.0PR RPM on the FedoraNews site. So my one download counted for multiple machines. But now your download wouldn't be counted if you just install his RPM.
It isn't a really significant issue. But since people were questioning multiple downloads, the real issue there is whether uncounted downloads offset multiple downloads. There's no sure way to know. But the two do in effect cancel each other out.
I'd say it isn't anything to worry about. The download counter is probably a very good indicator of Firefox's popularity.
When Microsoft announced the .JPG vulnerability, I went straight to google and typed in Firefox. (I picked Firefox because I recently used it at a friend's house and liked the tabbed browsing novelty.)
.JPG blunder. ;-)
.JPG problem, so it turns out I didn't need to get firefox afterall. (Note: I'm still using Firefox as my default browser, but I don't really have a pressing "need" to use it anymore.)
Anyway, shortly after I installed Firefox, I noticed the "1 million in 10 days" campaign and laughed because I had inadvertantly contributed to the campaign prior to seeing any advertisements. So basically I attribute the success of this campaign to Microsoft's
p.s. Oh yeah, and then later I read on slashdot that SP2 fixes the
Also, this is /., where a post about Mozilla can mysteriously turn to random politics.
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I'm currently using Moz and have been since it was Netscape. I tried to download the 0.x releases of FF and had nothing but problems with them... I must have done this 4 or 5 times and I always heave a deep sigh, do the uninstall and then go back to Moz.
:)
My conundrum; Should I download the 1.0 pre-release just because I really, really wanna be part of the party?
(I'm thinking that I need to uninstall Moz to put in FF, but I'm too lazy to check, and I have Moz working perfectly. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Slightly OT: Speaking of "part of the party," I have six gmail invites. Send me email at gmail.com if you want one. I've run out of techie friends.
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I've actually worked to increase the number of users even more, though unfortunately it isn't going to show up here. I work at a technical support help desk on campus, and we often have users that come in with computers infested with spyware. After we remove the spyware, we've been installing Firefox on every machine, and instructing them about how one of the ways to avoid getting it in the first place (among other things) is to use an alternate browser. Unfortunately for this download statistic, we install from a CD for speed purposes (and so they don't need to have internet access when installing). Hopefully more widescale adoption should combat the tide of spyware!
If you haven't tried Firefox DO IT! I have always been an IE user. I tried Mozilla a couple times, but its interface and Netscapeish functionality prompted me to revert immediatly. (I despise Netscape on a personal level) My first download of Firefox was ver 0.something but I was blown away. Now after upgrading to 1.0PR They havge taken care of nearly all my complaints and problems I've found. The only thing left is CSS suppot? Don't know if it is possible or in the works or not but t'would be nice.
P.S. The plugin manager kicks A$$! Microshaft beware!
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Windows Update is important for me on my home machine, but the real issues are at work. Some critical websites, like the Siebel CRM interface, depend on IE scripting. It appears that the Webex conferencing system does too, though perhaps it could be talked into using newer Firefoxes?
Also, sometimes there are plugins that just don't work on Firefox. That's one reason I usually use Real Mozilla instead, because it's got the right Java versions included.
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You can have multiple browsers, at least on Win98.
(On linux I guess you would have to compile from source to change install location ?!)
I have kept old versions of browsers around for fun and testing, and FireFox asks whether to install into a different directory, even only when 0.9.3 is around to be updated.
It will make itself the default browser if you tell it though.
Mozilla settings were imported automatically. I'm not sure that all this applies to all mozillas, I just got Navigator, Communicator, and mozilla 1.3 there besides the newly upgraded FireFox 1.0PR, which also seems to work in slashdot unlike FF 0.9.x. Quite an exhibition.
I find Opera cool, but somehow the UI is so different - or maybe it is the ads that take up space. Maybe if opera had an add side bar instead of a banner, it would not feel so different.
So FireFox is the best, even though I already managed to kill 1.0 with a big table (bug submitted).
I'm still trying to figure out what people mean by 'social skills' here.
I'll probably update Firefox on my home machine, which is running an older Firefox version, but on my work machine, I'm using Mozilla, and I'll probably upgrade to the slightly newer Mozilla. Firefox was too buggy for me, at least up to version 0.8 - it would crash occasionally, usually when I had lots of tabs open, and too many plugins didn't work, and the plugin installers never seemed to work right for Firefox. (Part of this is because my work machine runs Win2K in You're Not The Administrator mode, so it's easier to get the basic Firefox installed but hard to get all the Java installed correctly.)
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Firefox runs like a dog on my 450Mhz G3 OS X box
We're talking Windows here, not Macs. Windows is totally usable on a 450 MHz processor, however, Mac OS X takes up a lot of your processor just looking pretty. I would not recommend OSX on anything less than a 700 G3 (which is what I happen to have), preferrably a 1Ghz G4 or up.
Firefox also isnt really opitmized for OSX so I can imagine it running horribly on your computer, as it does on my G3. It is by far my favorite browser, but I just stick with Safari on the Mac side, since it's a pretty good browser and pretty fast on slower Macs.
Joseph?
1. Make new release 2. Announce that old version sucks 3. Reach 1000000 downloads faaast 4. ? 5. Profit!
There are LOT of sites besides slashtod which will not fix their markup. So, it's easier to fix one good browser than to fix 100000 bad sites.
IE is de facto standard, and any browser that wants to become de-facto standard too, must be compatible with M$-HTML. To kill IE, you must become IE !
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Okay, how about firefox devels make a "web developer release" with JUST the webdeveloper and editcss extensions.
Any relatively decent web developer would see how easy it is to get things done and then would see how ie doesnt quite comply, and so recomend Moz as the browser for their page.
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Obviously in 18 months Firefox will surpass one million downloads in two days, and with half the bandwidth...
-grossly missapplying key concepts
it's not about the downloads, it's about the usage
that will get lazy IE-centered webdevelopers off their b*tts
our goal should be that every webpage should work with Firefox!!!
I downloaded the prerelease version at work and was amazed at the download speed. Basically I clicked the button and it was there.
Then I realised that I must have been getting the file from some local cache.
I don't think this counts against the download counter, so add a couple of dozen (at least) for every big corporate.
I know quite a large group of Linux users do use Debian in some form or another, as well as utilize the dselect/apt-get tools to manage their package repositories.
Do these numbers even bother to take this into account?
I am ready to use it, except I am waiting a tad bit longer just for Firefox to iron out a few more bugs for the 1.0 final (supposedly in October?).
If there are 1,000,000 people downloading the pre-release, then there has got to be 2,000,000 people like me just waiting for the final version.
is the ability to decide which extensions would start with firefox and which would be fired up as and when needed.
I think that may shave off a few seconds of the loading time.
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I'm wondering how many IT pro's have downloaded this new firefox and installed it by deployable logins? I am aware of a company that downloaded it one time and installed it on twelve computers via domain login script.
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Although it may look like alot of people are switching from ie, the offical faq in the forums suggest a complete uninstall, then using ie to get Firefox. Im not suggesting ALL of the ie dls can be explained this way, but id say its a good percent.
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Well, as buggy as IE is, it sure SEEMS like a prerelease version.....
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Well this is why its a pre-release. Its beta.
.9.3 and will do so until its ready. I look at software as a tool and not a beta regresion test.
I use
http://saveie6.com/
one thing that bugs me is how slow getting a group of extensions pulled down. Somebody could/should create a link farm for the raw xpi files (so you could r-c and pull a bunch of extensions at once)
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You're an idiot. Muslims will not kill you just for existing, they do not hate our freedom, or just feel like hurling themselves in the World Trade Center along with a bunch of innocents because they had some bad kabobs. They do these things because of the world's negative involvement in their lives, because of our support of Israel, a great little theocracy that bulldozes people's houses and kills children with rubber bullets. They do so because we constantly insist on friendly governments while supporting monsters like the Shah, Saddam, and the Saudi royal family. They do so because when their doors are kicked in at night and they are dragged out of their homes the men are wearing US-made uniforms and equipment. They do so because they don't want US soldiers in their holy land, how pissed would Catholics be if there were Turkish troops positioned around Rome. To kill every terrorist you'd have to kill everyone. Everyone! Woman and children, old men and teenagers. You'd have to kill young girls wearing chadors because we allowed the extermists in Iran to gain power after we installed the Shah. You'd have to kill young Turkish men sipping tea and playing soccer, you'd have to slaughter and pillage and salt the earth of every Muslim country, from the tip of Africa to Malaysia. You'd have to kill nearly a Billion people. And then you would have killed every possible terrorist, every future terrorist. It's not a matter of kill X number of people and the rest will go quietly; it's a matter of making it so that terrorism isn't the only avenue of reform and change. We need a better world. But, you'd rather be Charlemagne with his mountains of skulls, who knew as he lay dying that his empire would never last.
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I was just about to reformat because my explorer is screwed. I keep getting pops up like crazy, and if i open more than 4 pages at a time everything freezes and i can not do anything. sometimes i get windows virtual memory is low. When eveything freezes the only thing i can do is hit power button. I read about Fire Fox on the freeipod board and gave it a shot. I like the way you can have tabs up in your main window. That is about the only thing i found so far, and i love it. I just have 1 problem with it. when i try to open java page with it like my stock market program, it will not launch the java page. But i can open it with intrnet explorer. If i could ever get the java page from micro cap trade com to work explorer will be history and will never use that crap again..
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I understand there has been a bug in the clipboard copy functionality for quite some time, where Ctrl-C or copying to clipboard just does not work.
Well, it's still there.
Honestly this bug renders the browser completely useless if you're doing anything that involves copy and paste. Short of manually swapping between tabs and typing huge tracts of text, the only alternative is to use another browser ie IE.
Anyone know anything about this bug - when is it going to be fixed?
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Great news - for the next steps, I would advise in the strongest terms that you NOT say you'll reach 100 million downloads in a year and plan to get there via a Pepsi bottlecap promotion!!
Just a thought.
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i want to install firefox in every machine, but it is imposible, i want that every friend of mine install it, but it is dificult, some of them dont speak english (im from argentina) and some of them cant deal with the extensions. so if i had a MSI with firefox in spanish, and with some extensions. ill be able to spread firefox far more than now.
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...I've seen some very misleading information. Stuff like "Firefox 1.0 released" only to find somewhere down in the body text that this is a PR release, often with a semi-understandable explaination of what a PR release is. I suspect a great many slightly less geeky people believe that this IS 1.0 final.
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Session Saver.
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Beware of the Tabbrowser extensions. Featurewise *everything* you'll ever need for tabbed browsing. But caused major performance and stability problems, not only for me
Bye egghat.
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Quite a bit offtopic but maybe someone has had similar problems.
Does anyone know how to make firefox properly display inline video (embedded into HTML pages)?
I tried the mplayer plugin but it doesn't work for me. Videos just pop up in a new window, play for a few secs, then close and won't come back.
Great! It works fine for me. I was searching for this extension for a long time - I guess this wasnt there on the default Mozilla site.. Thanks.
Parent should be modded +1 Funny, not "Interesting"
Which was my original point. It's a shame 10.PR is getting more attention than 0.9.3 because 1.0PR is not very good compared to 0.9.3 stability wise.
Does the source code count if I download it and build my own binary?
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
...broke 90% of my Extensions (ah yes, plus ca change...), and still doesn't have a way to add file types to the Download Manager (whoa, is it 1993 already?). Luckily I had a second copy of 0.9.3 on another drive...
Having to click "Save to Disk" "OK" every time a .dmg or any of countless other filetypes come in, is silly. And "Remember this Setting" button is right up there with the Apple Finder's "Always Open in Column View"... great idea, even better if it worked (at all).
still my browser of choice, until OmniWeb gets rollin' some more
Most /usr/local systems where I've worked have versioning systems, so that while a sysadmin may install Firefox 1.0 today that doesn't mean that everyone is using it that day. Each division, project, or user group has their own configuration files that select what versions of each program that they use. This type of system permits you to freeze software tool versions until your project ends or a needed bug fix comes out, while other projects and divisions can upgrade on their own schedules without impacting you.
You can implement this easily enough by writing a wrapper program which is what's actually installed in /usr/local/bin as Firefox. The wrapper examines your version configuration when you start it. If the version setting is "latest," it will run the most recent version, but if the version is set to "0.9", it will run version 0.9.
Of course, even without version control, installing Firefox doesn't mean you have to uninstall your old stable release of Mozilla.
http://www.spreadfirefox.com wants to recruit 10,000 new members for their campagne!