Domain: museekster.com
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Interview with AllOfMp3 / ROMS
AllOfMP3 Intervew ROMS (Russian equivavelent of RIAA) interview Some interesting points there about legality of this service.
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Re:Top Notch
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Re:Is allofmp3.com A Legal AlternativeIn every thread about this service the usual comments appear. Russian mafia, creditcard fraud. Absolute nonsense.
Allofmp3 is one of the internet's best kept secrets.
I have been thorougly investigating the legal issue. Allofmp3 operations are fully within the boundaries of Russian Law.Allofmp3 is licensed by ROMS, the Russian society on multimedia and to digital networks. Russian law makes it possible that this society may represent all artists when it comes to collecting fees for using copyrighted music. ROMS has confirmed that Allofmp3 operates in full accordance with Russian and international law.
Whether it is legal to use Allofmp3 outside Russia remains vague. There has been no official statement from any other copyright organization on this matter.Anyhow Allofmp3 sets a standard for any other online music services when it comes to audio quality. This makes this service very tempting. Thousands of users outside of Russia have not been able to resist this temptation.
I have been using this service for over 6 months, and I have downloaded Gigs of music. I have used my credit card several times for adding more money to my balance. Nothing strange has happened. The Cyberplat payment system is safe.
The sound quality of the files is excellent.
Recently Allofmp3 has has even added a new option to their already unique online encoding feature. Music that is part of the Online Encoding Exclusive catalogue can now be downloaded in several lossless audio formats such as Monkey's Audio, FLAC and OptimFrog. Even WAV and lossless WMA are part of this unique feature.Just think, would you go through all the trouble of setting up such a system if you were running an illegal business?
For those of you who would like to try this service for free. They have a fair collection of albums that are available for free. You can find these albums listed at museekster.com.
Note! Free albums cannot be online encoded and download speeds are far slower.Lot's of former Emusic users have switched to Allofmp3. I recommend a visit to the Mixtape Forums for more info on thier experiences with Allofmp3 (code word A3).
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Re:Is allofmp3.com A Legal Alternative
Well the legality has also been confirmed by ROMS, the Russian RIAA. Check this interview I have been using this site for over 6 months now. I can recommend it to anyone, never had a single problem.
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Re:Is allofmp3.com A Legal Alternative
Dubious legality, IMHO. Depending on where you live.
When the first round of RIAA lawsuits came out, the mother of our poster child, the 12 year old, had evidently 'paid for' legal music. Or so she thought. $29.95 for KazaaPro. Many, many were the comments in here about "How could anyone be so stupid as to think that a mere $30 would give you legal access to ten's of thousands of songs?"
I pose the same question to you, dear allofmp3.com user.
How is it that allofmp3 has negotiated such a better deal than Apple for all that music? On the order of $0.03 per song instead of $0.99 at iTunes? (of course the RIAA is in the mddle of that 99 cents there, skimming off a bunch, but THAT much?)
Of course the allofmp3 content manager is going to say it's legit. Did you expect him to say "naaa...it's all illegal, but we're in Russia, backed by the Russian Mafia, so they can't touch us."
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Is allofmp3.com A Legal AlternativeI've been a subscriber of Emusic.com for a few months now, but I don't like the limit of 90 songs per month. I am also not willing to pay $0.99 per song from iTunes, or even $0.88 a song from Walmart.
I've recently discovered the Russian website www.allofmp3.com that allows downloads from $0.01 per meg of mustic and it appears on the surface to be legit. You can even pay for content using paypay so you don't need to worry about the Russian mafia hijacking your account number. (Just your regular paypal problems).
A recent interview with the content manager makes it appear that this site is legal, and it looks like RIAA has nothinng to say about the site. A search on the RIAA web site for allofmp3.com returns zero hits, and doing some searching for the RIAA view of all0fmp3.com also gives no results.
Have other slashdotters had experience with this site? What is your opinion of its legality?
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Allofmp3 misrepresents the quality of their music
I'm very happy with the sound quality of allofmp3, for the most part. It's definitely better than iTunes or any competitor. However, they most definitely misrepresent the quality.
All of their CDs are stored in their database as a 384 kb/s LAME encoded mp3, not in a lossless form. So, you're pretty much wasting your time if you use extremely high quality ogg or mpc encoding since the quality can never be higher than the original mp3, and whatever you use will have been reencoded at least once, with whatever associated quality losses that entails.
Allofmp3 is trying to resolve this quality issue, fortunately. Right now, they have about fifty of their most downloaded CDs (White Stripe's Elephant, Outkast's epic album, REM's greatest hits, etc.) available online to be encoded losslessly. You have to check the box that says "use original cd data" and you also have the option of getting SHN, FLAC, or APE encoded music. It's not worth it for me though; it gets expensive downloading such large files. What is beneficial is that these albums are capable of being encoded into any of Allofmp3's formats (ogg, mpc, aac) from the original source. See this interview with someone working for allofmp3.
The interview also reiterates some of the legality issues, but of course, it's straight from the mouth of allofmp3 which certainly isn't a non-biased source.
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Re:But do the artists get paid from allofmp3.com?
According to this interview all copyrights are paid. So thet artist do get their money.
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Re:The deal with AllofMP3.com / Weblisten
They do not get al their files from users. Read what their content manager says about the way they get the music in this interview
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The deal with AllofMP3.com / WeblistenThe alleged deal with allofmp3.com is the same as with the Spanish WebListen. Both operate on the system of compulsory licensing, and have signed deals with the artists/publishers associations in their respective countries. These organisations (ASCAP and BMI in the US) are separate from the record industry associations (RIAA).
Effectively these services operate like radio stations, and pay over a certain amount, either per track downloaded, or a flat fee negotiated, to these organisations. The general consensus is that they are legal in their home countries (and for Weblisten, presumably in all of the EU). I believe that Weblisten has been sued by the Spanish RIAA-equivalent but has prevailed. Weblisten has been around for 6 years, and allofmp3.com for 2 years, so one would expect that they would be gone by now if they were not legit.
You can find a good third-party review here - he also received a confirmation email from the Russian copyright organisation confirming allofmp3.com's legitimacy.
I've been signed up to allofmp3.com for a while and had no problems with my credit card, although I've always used a 'one use' number. Customer support is quick and efficient; they've responded within minutes to my queries. There doesn't seem to be any recurring billing either, you just sign up for a fixed term.
They allow online encoding into MP3/AAC/WMA/OGG/MPC but this is taking quite a while at the moment (in the queue for several days rather than only minutes) - presumably due to this mention on Slashdot. Your order is transcoded from 384k mp3 files rather than the uncompressed originals. This hasn't bothered me, but audiophiles might take issue.
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Re:Allofmp3Allofmp3 does have its paperwork in order to stay in compliance with Russian laws. The RIAA is completely aware of Allofmp3 but has not been able to take any action so far. We think it is safe to say that Allmp3 is a legal service. If you would like to do a little research yourself. Use the Altavista Toolbar to translate the Russian pages at www.roms.ru Is using Allofmp3 legal? In the User Agreement Allofmp3 states that you may not use the service if it is in conflict with the legislation of your country. Of course Allofmp3 has added this as a kind of disclaimer. Who can tell if using Allofmp3 is against the law in your country? We doubt if anyone can in the current jungle of legal issues on copyright and internet.
From the TOS of AllofMP3
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Allofmp3
http://www.allofmp3.com/ - Run out of Russia, great service (online encoding for example) and great prices ($0.01/mb) but a question about legality when used from the US.
They're fully licenced with the local RIAA equivalent, but there doesn't seem to be any info available on American legislation.
A more in-depth discussion on the site can be found at http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3info.htm