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Bah. I'm underwhelmed. It actually looks pretty ungainly to me with that tall pedestal base (not exactly an ergonomic delight unless you're a giraffe). I'd prefer a mod of the Holiday model if anything, but I'm afraid I'm with the angry Predicta collectors on this one. Must make 'em wince to see Windows 2000 leering out at them when it should be Lucille Ball.

Man, are those cases UGLY. A giraffe case? Come on...

Presonally, I'd like to see a case that looks like a Philco Predicta television.

Here is a Canadian page listing the "inventors" of television. Perhaps because it originates outside of the USA it will have more authority in your eyes. Mentions that Farnsworth invented electronic TV in 1927.

In my day we called it a moderator. Why didn't he just use charcoal, coal or graphite?

And another thing, I thought it was John Logie Baird that invented (mechanical) television and Marconi who invented magnetically-scanned television? Maybe in America, everything was invented by Americans independently of the rest of the world?

Besides, if Moses hears you bitching, he'll punk you good, or send Rick the Temp after you.

I dont want to flame but an american did not invent the tv "Philo Farnsworth"-who?? im sorry but ill bet he was american , he did not invent the tv John Logie Baird as stated above was the inventor he was working in Dublin ( Ireland ) at the time i believe

You are absolutely correct that Philo Farnsworth didn't invent the concept of television. He invented the first all electronic television.
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The other individual you mentioned invented a functional Television first, however it was mechanical.He later much improved on the electronic design, and for that deserves much credit, however Farnsworth did invent television in pretty much the form we use today.

, just like americans didnt invent the Computer , no the English didnt either , a German beat them all to it just before the begining of WW11

Gee I always thought Charles Babbage was English, and in every CS book that mentions the history of the computer, Babbage is credited as it's inventor. I also thought he invented it in the 1830's, long before the First World War, let alone the second, although it is true that Babbage may not deserve all of the credit for inventing the first real computer.

I found Konrad Zuse (not 'zuze'). His machines were rather remarkable. He had paper paper tape (although he used old movie film because paper for paper tape or punch cards was in short supply), he used binary, and considered using vaccum tubes instead of relays, but found relays to be more plentiful. His machine also predated the Harvard Mark I(IBM ASCC), however that machine was apparently invented independantly, and the fact that the Z3 had predated it was not found out until after WWII. All of this information is here.

However, several full fleged computers predated Zuse's machine, including Babbage's machines, and the Turnig machine.

The jet fighter was the English , who were gracious enough to lend there jet tech to America.

Gee, my history books always said it was Germany. They were at least the first to use them AS fighters during WWII.

From here
1939 First jet aircraft is flown, Heinkel HE 178 Heinkel Germany
1942 First operational jet, ME-262 Messerschmitt Germany

It kinda looks to me like it wasn't the British, but actually the Germans who deveoped the first Jet.

Nothing againts America I still think its a great country but not everything is invented in america!.ill be moded as offtopic i presume , who cares , what i said is still true.

It's nice of you to say that we're a great country, and that you have nothing against us, (some of your aside comments would indicate otherwise, but I'll take you at your word), but what you say isn't really true. You failed to make even the most cursory of checks using google for any of the claims you made.

One of the first "TV's" was a device called a Televisor. The technology to present a visual matrix (CRT or LCD or whatever) was not there yet, so the Baird Televisor used a single light and a spinning disk with holes cut in it in a spiral pattern. This made the effect of a dot which moved down vertically to form a line, and those lines moved from left to right to form an image. It took advantage of the human eye's "persistance of vision" to trick the viewer into believing that he/she is viewing a moving image, instead of a dot running fast vertically and horizontally.

don't knock ritalin and the other adhd drugs they can help you focus maybe get something done when you have lots of things going on and the bird flies by outside your window and i'm looking out the window and thinking about the bird and the tree and the grass and i get up to go outside and on the way i stop in the kitchen for a snack and my sister has the tv on so i watch that and after a while i start drawing on some paper that is there but i want the green marker and i go to my room to get it and while i am looking for the marker i pick up a book and flip through it and i start reading it in the middle if you only knew how many times i was distracted just writing this you need to look at the rest of the agenda these people have who say oh horrors they have these kids on drugs most are behaviorist bleeding heart kids should feel good about themselves with no background in medicine sorry a bs in psych doesnt cut it or worse yet a degree in journalism or the ones pushing grapefruit pip extract herbal compounds and miracle diets right take your medical information from them i'll sell you a magnet to put on your gas line that makes your car run better you should listen to people who study the brain like dr alan zametkin at nimh instead of the media you could start with this paper if you haven't looked at adhd research you should really take the time to read it i would greatly appreciate it if someone will please mod this out of AC wasteland although probably half the people on here have adhd i ought to just post it under my login confusing to read this no apology i live in this it doesn't bother me not confusing my life looks like a perfectly logical sequence from my point of view but back to the drugs my brain works differently it is no worse to give a kid with adhd ritalin than to give a diabetic kid insulin oh yeah the europeans and chinese are so progressive give the kids one test when they are 12 that determines whether they become worker bees or go on to higher education and you call us drones nice troll though

Nipikow Disk TV sets. Yeah, they were really cool.

But, man oh man, after watching one of those, I'm grateful for rickety old NTSC. If you think 525 lines isn't enough resolution, try watching Felix the Cat on 50 lines.

I love antique TV sets, they're fascinating. I've got a collection going; I have 4 from the early 1950s (*not* mechanical), and a couple of early 1960s portables.

Here's one for you: the original proposed color TV standard was mechanical: a spinning disk, with the three primary colors on it, was to be placed in front of the picture tube and spun in time with the sync signals from the TV station. Thank God RCA came up with the three-gun picture tube.

Antique TV Museum: MZTV Museum, part of Canada's MuchMusic and Citytv empire.

Nah, I doubt it. I'm sure that most of the old information and stuff that might have been on vintage machines has long been rendered obsolete or transferred off onto a newer computer.

Antique computers, like antique radios or antique TV sets, will never have any value except to Hollywood for use as props and as toys for hobbyists and collectors.

Let's face facts: my Trinitron uses a lot less power than my 1954 General Electric TV set. The Sony has stereo sound, a remote control, goes beyond channel 13 and - get this - it's color! But the old GE is a really neat piece of history, and while I only ever turn it on every now and then, it has a prominent place in my living room.

Now, here's a funny thing: ubiquitous as the TV set is, it has, perhaps, been a victim of its own success. There are less pre-WWII TV sets out there now than there are Stradavarius violins. 1950s and 1960s TV sets are getting rare, too. People tend to hang onto old radios because they're usually rather small or have more decorative cabinets.

There are lots of antique radio museums and collectors around the world, but there are only a handful of antique TV collections. (One of the best is the MZTV Museum in Toronto.)

Early computers are even less useful, from a practical standpoint, than a 40-year-old TV set; at least anyone can figure out how to use the 40-year-old TV, but few of us here could use even a 20-year-old computer effectively. Old TV sets often had gorgeous woodwork and great polished brass and chrome accents that were futuristic for their day. Early computers had that sort of retro feeling of "high-tech" too - a plastic prop out of the movie "Tron". But they lack the handmade qualities of earlier antique electronics.

So, what's the fate of my Commodore 64 in twenty years? Cherished museum piece that people will love to turn on, try out and admire; or will it be reviled and ridiculed for its age, simplicity and primitive design?

Well, we could all aspire to a hobby as clearly interesting as yours: Anonymous Coward postings...

Actually, the technology behind TV sets and radios once moved almost as fast as the computer industry did. A radio from 1920 and a radio from 1940 are as radically different from each other as a Commodore PET is from my Pentium III.

And, of course, a TV set is just a radio with a few more tubes. And, like one is wont to say about a computer from twenty years ago compared to one now, man oh man, were they built to last. One of my favorites is a bakelite Admiral from 1959-1960. The chassis is entirely box-section copper, polished to a high gloss at the factory. They were artistic both inside and out.

Another old TV set that I have is a 1955 RCA color TV set. One of the *very* first color TV sets ever made, the picture tube is steel with a round glass face bonded to it. Very neat. Very bad picture, but that was the technology of the day.

There's nothing like watching I Love Lucy or The Honeymooners on a period TV set. Collecting antique radios is more popular, but I'm a more visual person, and so I like the old TV sets.

I'm not the only one, either: here in Toronto, Moses Znaimer who owns CityTV, MuchMusic, Bravo, etc... also has the MZTV museum - the Moses Znaimer TV collection. He's got some very beautiful old sets in the collection, many of which I've seen. The curator is Ian Baird, a descendant of John Logie Baird, the inventor of television. He happily took me around the museum's private areas to show me the collection's rarer pieces.

Check out MZTV's website for more info!