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Let me make it clearer for you:

Watt is so much of a shithead that I'm willing to bypass my "message not person" rule due to extremeness and consistency of his particular problems. He is a serial liar, and I have given his bullshit enough benefits of the doubt over the years, only to find so much of what can only be called intentional duplicitousness in every case, I cannot waste any more time with things he says.

Also regarding your denial of a relatively simple fact:

Watts has been featured as a speaker at Heartland Institute's International Conference on Climate Change, for which he acknowledges receiving payment.

Wikipedia's source instead, since you have the most absurd case of denialism of this point too.

See here for just 1 cities policy: http://www.sgpd.com/html/dance_permits.html and Another: http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/so-they-think-they-can/content?oid=2477936

This isn't an urban legend... it happened at my univeristy:

http://www.californiaaggie.com/article/?id=7488

http://www.newsreview.com/issues/chico/2005-02-10/ news.asp

I was there (Electronic Engineering, '05) when it happened and it was big news, it was allegedly going to cast a pall on the college, but on the plus side I left with a good job with a GEnerous company. (hint, hint)

No paper newspaper can ultimately compete with this (except by being in an ignored market). And frankly, I doubt an online "newspaper" would bother since the margins on online ads can be driven so low.

The recipients probably weren't that picky about their source.

No joke. Read the Confessions of an EBay Opium Addict. http://www.newsreview.com/issues/reno/2005-03-17/c over.asp

You can sue for legal costs. My mother's accounting firm is doing so with the Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency for dragging on a fraud investigation for years, when there was no fraud to begin with.

But apparantly, some judges are taking some action against frivolous lawsuits already.

Nobody. Call it an assumption. A bit of digging reveals it to be a correct assumption, though.

Because the people who did that have no motivation to do anything otherwise. It's conceivable to me that there's another reason, but "mistake" is the obvious one. Just like if you showed me something that looked like a potato, I'd say it's "obviously" a potato, even though it's conceivable that it's actually a plastic model of a potato.

I can think of no reason, under any circumstances, why a lawsuit should be pursued first, before you even ask for the change.

For comparison, the Four Corners power plant is 2,040 megawatts, and the San Juan plant is 1,600 megawatts. These plants and others have smogged the views around the Grand Canyon.

Too bad the clear air around Gerlach will be a thing of the past.

The local (formerly know as micro) brewery, Sierra Nevada does no conventional advertising. They only do product placement. Their beer has appeared on Friends and some other shows and movies. It seems to be working for them. Product placement and word of mouth have made them the ninth largest brewery.

I guess he's killed over 150,000 civilians that the "surgical bombing" of the Gulf War did. It's certainly possible.

When was the last time you had to wonder if the plane flying overhead might be dropping a bomb on you and your loved ones?

I try not to shop at Safeway since they implemented those cards. I really don't like them tracking my shopping and I agree that they are not meant for convenience and will eventually only lead to higher prices. More info about the cards

The Wayback Machine thing sucks, as do so many other Scientology actions against the net, but frankly I'm a little more concerned about how Scientology's actions affect people's rights out in the non-virtual world.

This is an organization that has framed critics, including journalist Paulette Cooper, who was indicted for sending bomb threats which, in reality, Scientology had sent to themselves. Scientology also attempted to frame Clearwater mayor Gabriel Cazares (for hit-and-run), U.S. District Judge Ben Krentzman (for solicitation and drug use), attorney Michael Flynn (for cashing a forged check), BBS operator Tom Klemesrud (for battery), attorney Graham Berry (for child molestation and battery), author Russell Miller (for murder), and former Scientologists Martin Hunt (for Internet posts; his report of the police officer's visit didn't mention what was being alleged about the posts) and Gene Allard (for grand theft - Allard won a 1974 malicious prosecution suit against Scientology).
Numerous instances of making false reports to police have been reported.

This is an organization that has seen 11 top-ranking executives go to jail in the U.S. for infiltrating government offices to steal and plant documents. In the similar Canadian trial, three Scientology executives and the Toronto church organization itself were found guilty of similar crimes.

The FBI raids in the late 70s turned up evidence of the frame-ups of Cooper and Cazares, along with evidence that Scientology had infiltrated numerous other government offices, such as the California Attorney General's office, as well as newspapers like the Clearwater Sun, law offices like Sidley & Austin, and other organizations, such as the Clark County Mental Health Agency. A Scientologist on the San Diego police force was fired for passing police information to Scientology.

A typical response from Scientology spokepeople is "that was years ago." (We never did that, and besides, we don't do it anymore.)

Well, there were five frame-up attempts that I can count in the past 3-4 years (Keith Henson, successfully framed and now a fugitive in Canada; Mark Bunker, acquitted; Bob Minton, acquitted twice but now apparently extorted into testifying for Scientology; Jesse Prince, hung jury).

There are also disturbing signs that Scientology is continuing to infiltrate government offices and businesses. A motion was filed just a couple of weeks ago alleging religious discrimination in the case of a woman who was fired from the Greenwich Housing Authority after Scientology management systems were introduced and employees were required to attend Scientology courses, paid for with thousands of dollars in public money, and the EEOC recently took action in a Texas case in which employees at a dental office were fired after refusing to attend Scientology classes. The Sacramento News & Review did a story not long ago about a publishing house that uses Scientology management techniques, run by Scientologists Dennis McKenna (who, as a Scientology spokesman, defended what Scientology did to Paulette Cooper) and Don Pearson (who gave extensive Scientology training to Allstate employees until management finally stopped it); the company, eRepublic, publishes a magazine on the use of technology in government (and another on the use of technology in education) and consults to governments on technology issues. The magazine includes ads for business training - never mentioning that it teaches Scientology principles - offered by people like Arte Maren - long-time Scientologist, co-conspirator in the 70s government infiltration case, and trainer in the Greenwich Housing Authority case.

I'm concerned that people confronted by Scientology training in the workplace don't know their rights. I hope the EEOC will vigorously defend people who are being illegally subjected to Scientology training at work - and I hope journalists will keep a closer eye on Scientology's continuing infiltration in government and business.

Kristi
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You reminded me, we're overlooking something - this is California.

Just skip the goofy demo, and just cut a $25,000 check to Gov. Davis' re-election campaign. Worked for Oracle.

This is only about software, so it shouldn't be expensive. It's not like we're Tosco trying to get away with dumping 5 times as much dioxin as it was before a cleanup law got passed. That costs $55,000 to $70,400 depending on whose accounting you're reading.

And it's not like we're in the quack medicine industry, like Metabolife - stopping a labelling law that would have warned about ephedrine in their product cost them $100,000.

(The ironic part is that it's Davis who's accusing his opponents of corruption. Given the number of coincidences that seem to happen in the weeks between large campaign donations and favorable legislation, I'd wonder if he doth protest too much.)

Bottom line - at least until the election this fall, if you can come up with $25,000 in Davis donations from other Californian geeks, and present it as a check from a lobby group with a stated agenda, rather than individual donations (which will never be noticed) I'm pretty sure you can get a law requiring open source. Or anything else you want.

Is there a problem? Oh yea. The Sacramento News and Review has an article showing how in spite of current laws, CRT's and other components still end up in landfills all the time. There is sometimes 4 pounds of lead in one CRT, all of which could easily leech into your drinking water.

Then there's the proposal itself.

Under the proposal, a fee -- perhaps $25 or $30 -- would be added to computer systems at the time of purchase. The collected money would finance a recycling program for computers and television sets.

What really needs to be done is local goverments should have a small tax they impose on everyone. That tax should go for proper disposal of toxic waste -- all toxic waste. Checking back with that SNR link above, private contractors are currently ignoreing the law and knowing dumping illegal CRTs in landfills. This sort of thing doesn't get done right unless the government removes incentives to cut corners -- i.e., it does it itself.

All of society benefits from not having toxic chemicals in their landfills and drinking water, so a general tax is fair. Regardless, please get involved. Support whatever you want but do it, the cost of clean up once this stuff is already in a landfill is huge. Find groups in your local area and support them. (Bay Area link ).

Peace, out.