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Re:Unfortunately, activism isn't always good
Attacking civilian targets
They did that, huh? Do you have a source?
Israeli soldiers recall Gaza attack orders
An Israeli soldier says they were told to "Fire on anything that moves".By the way, I always think stories like this are interesting: Pro-Israel media: Bloggers join media war
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Re:Unfortunately, activism isn't always good
Attacking civilian targets
They did that, huh? Do you have a source?
Israeli soldiers recall Gaza attack orders
An Israeli soldier says they were told to "Fire on anything that moves".By the way, I always think stories like this are interesting: Pro-Israel media: Bloggers join media war
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Re:Unfortunately, activism isn't always good
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Re:Meh
Agree.
Being Jewish, I run into the anti-semitism industry all the time, and I'm tired of their thuggery and intimidation. (There's a reason why I'm posting AC.) I think everybody else is finally getting tired of them too.
Norman Finkelstein http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/content.php?pg=3 has enough energy to fight them and he says it better than me.
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Re:I can't believe you people still defend IranIf you get your view of the Muslim world from MEMRI, you are looking at the situation with blinders on.
Not to mention that they are also total scumbags with a history of bullying their critics. If you go to the bottom of the Guardian article that tries to discredit MEMRI you will that a "correction" at the bottom where they go on to say that MEMRI's article (which they try to discredit above) has actually been verified by other sources and is probably true. In fact, much of the article is FUD and provides no real proof that they do anything wrong.
As for the wonderful other links you posted:
Antiwar.com is obviously not an objective source of information. Their self-professed goal is to prevent wars no matter what. There is such a thing as a justified war, but they'd be against that too. They (or anyone else) has yet to prove that MEMRI has ever a) mis-translated an Arabic media report with obviously malicious intent b) has made up media reports that never happened. Until they do that MEMRI is a valuable peek into what is being said in government-controlled media across the middle-east. When the official mouth-piece of the government runs a 12-episode TV movie about how Jews faked the Holocaust and how they also faked 9/11 then it *does* reflect badly on their government *as it should*.
As for Mr. Finkelstein, I'd hardly call him unbiased. He has a very colorful history as mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein -- In fact the bottom of page reads "In January 2008 Finkelstein made a lecture tour of Lebanon during which he met with high-ranking leaders of Hezbollah and defended the organization saying that Hezbollah represents 'hope.'"
Wow, thank you. That would be Hezbollah, which has been recognized as a terrorist group by many countries around the world outside of the US. His Holocaust-smearing history also does not reflect too well on him. -
Re:I can't believe you people still defend Iran
Just take a look at the kind of things coming out of their government-controlled media: http://memritv.org/
If you get your view of the Muslim world from MEMRI, you are looking at the situation with blinders on.
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Re:Good for him
I think you need to learn more about Dershowitz. Perhaps this little blurb from Beyond Chutzpah will suggest itself as useful reading.
The core analysis of Beyond Chutzpah sets Dershowitz's assertions on Israel's human rights record against the findings of the mainstream human rights community. Sifting through thousands of pages of reports from organizations such as Amnesty International, B'Tselem, and Human Rights Watch, Finkelstein demonstrates that Dershowitz has systematically misrepresented the facts.
It sounds to me that with phrases like "Arab bigotry and terrorism and has defended the only free, democratic country in the Middle East" that you have an agenda on this issue. Further, anytime you paint an entire group with the same brush (with the possible exception of groups that are defined solely by bigotry - which is not the case with Arabs), you yourself are being a bigot.
I don't have an agenda. I can see that both Arabs and Jews are doing terrible things that should stop. I also recognize that there is a huge difference in power - with Israel getting U.S. military support and apparently applying the same standards of morality (that it is okay for the U.S. or Israel to commit acts of terrorism because they are really defending themselves from the terrorism of others). I'm sorry but that dog won't hunt.
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Re:Who do you root for?In N. America (and perhaps elsewhere) the standard texts on the Left are: Noam Chomsky's The Fateful Triangle; Norman Finkelstein's Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict.
As for the Right, another reader mentioned Alan Dershowitz' The Case for Israel .
Ordinarily, I'd recommend books rather than online material. For a comprehensive introduction, it's best to avoid the low S/N of the Web. But I can't help but point out Finkelstein's dissection of Dershowitz' book. He also tackles it in this speech, around the 33rd minute.
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Re:IBM and Nazi Germany - new book by Edwin BlackCrap. Read Finklestein's THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY.