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the real problem, actually, is that the existing, legal phone system inside armerica's prisons is grossly corrupt. prison phone system providers are given a monopoly, charge exorbitant rates (a 630% markup over normal residential prices) and then actually kickback money to prison officials and politicians to keep their sweet contracts (57.5% of profits to the state of new york, for example).

my source for these numbers is here

add to that the fact that even if an inmate can get a prison job, the wages are usually in the dollar-or-less per hour range, sometimes as low as 20c/hr, and you have a situation where the legal phone system is financially unusable. the result is that the economic impulse to get a black market cellphone -- even a $200 one -- is strong.

if america really wanted to stop black market cellphones, they'd cancel verizon's prison phone contract and offer reasonably-priced access to phone systems to inmates.

my source for the prison wages info is: here

wget -r -p http://www.northcountrygazette.org/center.html ;) Working now.

When I try to access http://www.northcountrygazette.org/ I get Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server.

This link still worked:

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/center.html

Fixe that for you ;)

This link still works:

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/center.html

not anymore... ;)

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/ He's dead Jim...

while wget --mirror --output-document=- http://www.northcountrygazette.org/ > /dev/null 2>&1 || true;do echo lol;done

Doesn't use any storage space, and emits amusing completion note per cycle. Gives that sense of accomplishment as a high note to your latte sippage.

Check out http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2010/10/21/sexy_emails/ (but use Firefox, Chrome or Konqueror.)

The site is using something called ax.pl to log off-site URL clicks. It states that it doesn't limit the size of its log and will simply crash when used too much. The URL is http://www.northcountrygazette.org/cgi-bin/axs/ax.pl?http://www.google.com I am not suggesting to continually bombard this website to crash it via filling up its logs with clicks. I am suggesting that you don't do anything and simply smirk at the sillyness of the situation.

You can go to http://www.northcountrygazette.org/sitemap8.xml and from there access all her articles, she has only forbidden the index.html file.

No, I can't. Tried. Every link I hit answers 404. Can you say "Slashdot Effect" boys & girls?

The North Country Gazette welcomes letters of up to 300 words. The editor reserves the right to reject letters or edit for clarity, brevity, good taste and accuracy, and to prevent libel. No poetry or letter writing campaigns will be accepted. Submissions are limited to one every 30 days. All letters must include the writer’s name, address and phone number. We will not publish street address, e-mail address or phone number.

Letters can be submitted at news@northcountrygazette.org. All letters become the property of The North Country Gazette.

So...a letter writing campaign consisting of an anonymous 301 word bad-taste poem sent every 29 days would not be well received? Interesting...

You can still access http://www.northcountrygazette.org/sitemap.html

I've just DownThemAll'ed all the links, I wonder how much do I owe them? But hey, they can try suing me here in Portugal too :)

Exercise for the reader: select any article on the site. Any one. First one or two sentences are enough. Copy-paste into google. Have fun finding original sources for most of what they threateningly repost. If not all, that is - my 6 random tries were all successes. I think it's them who are in hot water.

You can go to http://www.northcountrygazette.org/sitemap8.xml and from there access all her articles, she has only forbidden the index.html file.

Oh, I can get to it, but...

Checking http://www.northcountrygazette.org/sitemap.html "Today's Articles" appear to be from April 2007.

So, where's the, you know, news?

Good answer, wasn't aware wget could do that. So it's just this...

$ while true; do wget --mirror --delete-after http://www.northcountrygazette.org/; done

You can pretty much do this in a jailbroken iPhone with wget installed, sipping coffee leisurely in a Starbucks.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/category/adirondacks/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/advertise/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/investigative-reports/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/letters-to-the-editor/
Maybe this will be more interesting
I noticed the only name that keeps popping up is June Maxims.
Sounds to me like it might be a 1 horse show. Some blogger with dreams of world domination.
If its an actual paper then Instead of complaining to them Call the people who use them for advertising. Say you wont do business with any company that does business with a company like this one.

Heres a list of some of the adds I saw on the site.

US Legal Forms
http://www.uslegalforms.com/?auslf=northcountry
1-877-389-0141

Ace Hardware
http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/
1 (888) 230-2323

Adopt a Pet
http://www.adoptapet.com/
1-800-Save-A-Pet (1-800-728-3273)

Shop The Adirondacks
http://www.shoptheadirondacks.com/
(310) 480-3737

The Sierra Club
https://tioga.sierraclub.org/joinorgive/member4.htm
415-977-5500

Purrs and Paws
http://www.purrsandpawsrescue.org/
518.798.0718

Handtrux Toys
http://www.handtruxtoys.com/
973.812.5222

Miles Kimball
http://www.mileskimball.com/

Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/

Dollar Days .com
http://www.dollardays.com/
877-837-9569

And Ironically (to me anyway)

Cyberbullying
http://www.cyberbullying.us/

Call all of the people paying them to advertise for them and let them know how you feel.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/category/adirondacks/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/advertise/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/investigative-reports/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/letters-to-the-editor/
Maybe this will be more interesting
I noticed the only name that keeps popping up is June Maxims.
Sounds to me like it might be a 1 horse show. Some blogger with dreams of world domination.
If its an actual paper then Instead of complaining to them Call the people who use them for advertising. Say you wont do business with any company that does business with a company like this one.

Heres a list of some of the adds I saw on the site.

US Legal Forms
http://www.uslegalforms.com/?auslf=northcountry
1-877-389-0141

Ace Hardware
http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/
1 (888) 230-2323

Adopt a Pet
http://www.adoptapet.com/
1-800-Save-A-Pet (1-800-728-3273)

Shop The Adirondacks
http://www.shoptheadirondacks.com/
(310) 480-3737

The Sierra Club
https://tioga.sierraclub.org/joinorgive/member4.htm
415-977-5500

Purrs and Paws
http://www.purrsandpawsrescue.org/
518.798.0718

Handtrux Toys
http://www.handtruxtoys.com/
973.812.5222

Miles Kimball
http://www.mileskimball.com/

Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/

Dollar Days .com
http://www.dollardays.com/
877-837-9569

And Ironically (to me anyway)

Cyberbullying
http://www.cyberbullying.us/

Call all of the people paying them to advertise for them and let them know how you feel.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/category/adirondacks/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/advertise/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/investigative-reports/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/letters-to-the-editor/
Maybe this will be more interesting
I noticed the only name that keeps popping up is June Maxims.
Sounds to me like it might be a 1 horse show. Some blogger with dreams of world domination.
If its an actual paper then Instead of complaining to them Call the people who use them for advertising. Say you wont do business with any company that does business with a company like this one.

Heres a list of some of the adds I saw on the site.

US Legal Forms
http://www.uslegalforms.com/?auslf=northcountry
1-877-389-0141

Ace Hardware
http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/
1 (888) 230-2323

Adopt a Pet
http://www.adoptapet.com/
1-800-Save-A-Pet (1-800-728-3273)

Shop The Adirondacks
http://www.shoptheadirondacks.com/
(310) 480-3737

The Sierra Club
https://tioga.sierraclub.org/joinorgive/member4.htm
415-977-5500

Purrs and Paws
http://www.purrsandpawsrescue.org/
518.798.0718

Handtrux Toys
http://www.handtruxtoys.com/
973.812.5222

Miles Kimball
http://www.mileskimball.com/

Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/

Dollar Days .com
http://www.dollardays.com/
877-837-9569

And Ironically (to me anyway)

Cyberbullying
http://www.cyberbullying.us/

Call all of the people paying them to advertise for them and let them know how you feel.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/category/adirondacks/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/advertise/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/investigative-reports/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/letters-to-the-editor/
Maybe this will be more interesting
I noticed the only name that keeps popping up is June Maxims.
Sounds to me like it might be a 1 horse show. Some blogger with dreams of world domination.
If its an actual paper then Instead of complaining to them Call the people who use them for advertising. Say you wont do business with any company that does business with a company like this one.

Heres a list of some of the adds I saw on the site.

US Legal Forms
http://www.uslegalforms.com/?auslf=northcountry
1-877-389-0141

Ace Hardware
http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/
1 (888) 230-2323

Adopt a Pet
http://www.adoptapet.com/
1-800-Save-A-Pet (1-800-728-3273)

Shop The Adirondacks
http://www.shoptheadirondacks.com/
(310) 480-3737

The Sierra Club
https://tioga.sierraclub.org/joinorgive/member4.htm
415-977-5500

Purrs and Paws
http://www.purrsandpawsrescue.org/
518.798.0718

Handtrux Toys
http://www.handtruxtoys.com/
973.812.5222

Miles Kimball
http://www.mileskimball.com/

Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/

Dollar Days .com
http://www.dollardays.com/
877-837-9569

And Ironically (to me anyway)

Cyberbullying
http://www.cyberbullying.us/

Call all of the people paying them to advertise for them and let them know how you feel.

This link still works:

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/center.html

I went to this page:

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2010/10/

And found over 30 ads in the righthand sidebar. They claim "only one free read per visitor", but since they've exposed me to their advertising messages, my read is no longer "free". This would be easy to prove in court since advertisers are still willing to pay per impression. If the Gazette wants to argue that my visit is "free", then they better refund all of the impression based fees they received from advertisers.

If they want people to pay for "free" content, they should make it free first.

What about some sexy emails?

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2010/10/21/sexy_emails/

I've read three whole articles now. I'm a criminal! Pretty good DB server they have there, it makes about 1 of every 5 requests, if you're persistent, and considering the attentions of /.

FORBIDDEN
You do not have permission to access http://www.northcountrygazette.org/ on this server.

Wow that was fast.

not really : http://www.northcountrygazette.org/robots.txt

wonder what might be happening over there. ;) Hey, check out this gem:
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2010/10/27/raisinet_recall/

Raisinetcraft confirms it!

Looks like the archives still work:
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/archivenew.html

The North Country Gazette. It's an interesting model. I wonder how it will work. We should all visit this and see.

Either the summons went to the wrong mail address (Whois for thedirty.com) or it went to the right address and right defendant. It sounds like it went to the wrong name & address.

There is another possibility. It is becoming common for process servers to lie under oath that they served the defendant when in fact they did not:

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202432464950
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2010/01/15/guilty_server/
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5146727-beware-of-process-server-scams

I have known hundreds of such people in my lifetime.

If you've known "hundreds" who have been living underground, then they can't have been buried very deep.

It has never been easy for a fugitive to break all contact with the world he left behind. These stories tend o have much the same ending:

The manhunt for Daniel Hicks stretched to California after the 30-year-old fugitive made a collect call to his father from San Jose on Wednesday Seattle double-murder suspect arrested in Santa Cruz

Fugitive's Girlfriend Sentenced For Aiding & Abetting

With noble souls like these, who needs corruption?

So what's the difference between the crowd making a mistale and the police making a mistake?

DNA Testing Clears Virginia Man Of 1984 Rape
Chicago man sues Chicago, police over wrongful conviction
Milwaukee DA Drops Charge In 1995 Murder Case
Tests prove innocence of 23-year prisoner in Texas
New arson analysis may free convicted murderer
Texas Enacts 'Innocence Committee' Over Excessive Wrongful Convictions

So, you accept "just following orders" as a defense.

I do when the law says it is and the law was in place long before the situation happened. You see, the law said all they needed to check for was the papers, they didn't have to validate it, they didn't have to verify it, they didn't have to do anything but apply the order to tap, and the law then said that if they did, they couldn't be prosecuted. If they weren't immune, it would be like you getting sued for a traffic accident because you saw a cop driving what appeared to be to fast for the road conditions and didn't report it to the cops and he later failed to stop at an intersection and crashed into another vehicle. You job wasn't to police the police and no one ever expected you to do so.

Don't you recall one of their competitors refusing, and publicizing their refusal, to comply with illegal wiretaps? Do you see how that contradicts your modified "innocent bystander" argument -- really more of an "innocent accomplice" argument, which is just as ridiculous as the words themselves suggest.

Lol.. We can make shit up from faint memories of situation you barely paid attention to. What you are talking about is the last ditch effort of a former CEO who was on trial for insider trading who claimed that Quest's refusal to participate in the consolidation of interchanges caused the company to lose federal contracts which in turn caused the stock to fail after he sold all his. The issue wasn't about the NSA's TSP in it's entirety, it was about another law that says the telecoms have to cooperate with the government in making the taps easier and more accessible. It was either project trailblazer or ground breaker that served to both establish a private backup government only communications network across the country and to modernize the telecom infrastructure in order to more readily effect taps and monitoring. The later is a big focus in the TSP program as it created centers where almost all communications could be access in the US including over seas international and internet communications. Nachio's boast about not cooperating and stating concerns of legality was only a ploy to attempt to show that his misstatements about the financial situation of quest wasn't his fault. However, Quest was awarded contracts to the sum of 2 million instead of the 5 million Nachio was hoping for.

And BTW, this claim wasn't about the taps, it was about creating the centers to trap the calls. That's something totally different then the tap authorizations.

Also, although it might be literally true that "it is not the phone company's job to validate the legal papers the government gives them in accordance with the law" many judges still frown on taking actions, knowing that they assist a criminal to commit a crime. Being an "accessory" generally carries less culpability than initiating the crime, and I think most people, including most judges, would be pretty sympathetic to the "dude, it's the fscking NSA" argument.

Here is the problem, if you give someone a ride to the bank and then he jumps bank into the car wearing a ski mask with a bag full of money at about the same time alarm bells start ringing and you drive away, you sort of know that what you were doing was helping him. When there is a law that says if X happens you do Y and in turn you can't be prosecuted, then you don't pay attention to anything about X other then it happened and you have to do Y. Suppose the bank robber got shot when leaving and you took them to a hospital emergency room. They are required by law to not refuse emergency treatment to anyone, so when the doctors treat his gun shot wound, are they aiding and abetting and becoming accessories to the crime or are they following the law and doing their duty? I mean would you hold a doctor accountable for treating

Spitzer was a person of interest because he was a public official engaging in activity indicative of corruption. His activities were monitored pursuant to warrant and under supervision of a Federal judge. The vigorous anti-corruption activities of the DoJ are one of the reasons this is such a good country to live in.

It is quite possible some powerful people decided to destroy Spitzer because of his crusade against the thieves on Wall Street who have been quite obviously stealing this country in to poverty.

Do you really think that the obviously absurd expectations and low level of training exhibited by the campus cop(s) involved is an indication of what "police" (as in, "all police") do?

Since we could have heard about this from NY, or FL, or LA, and this particular one just happened to occur on a college campus - Yes, I'd say this does reflect the generally brutish quality of police in general.



Have you suddenly stopped seeing the firing of cops caught doing this sort of thing?

Better question - Have you suddenly started seeing cops fired for shit like this? Departments cover it up as much as possible, the cowards hiding even their names behind their "LEO's Bill of Rights"; When it makes the press, the chiefs talk about investigations and appropriate discipline, then give the offending cops a few weeks of paid vacation.

Rodney King, Humboldt County (Earth First vs Pacific Lumber Co), the present example... And do cops go to prison for grossly abusing their authority? Hell no! Given one cop testifying against two dozen dirty hippies, the courts show just a wee bit of bias there...



how we'll be treating all students that refuse to show ID in an area where you have to show ID.

Trespassing does not negate your basic human rights, nor the responsibility of the police to act humanely and with as little force as the situation requires. Some punk taking a bit longer than they want to pack his books up does not justify tasering.



we were talking about someone having captured video of a person (without ID) who got into a secured part of the campus and assaulted a student.

A college campus doesn't count as a war zone. You don't have a "Green zone" where you only expect to see familiar white faces, and if you want to survive to see tomorrow you must view anyone unfamiliar as carrying a bomb. This didn't happen in Baghdad, it happened on a goddamned American college campus.

Get a sense of scale, here! 9/11 did not change everything, regardless of how those who want an authoritarian government may spin it.



In your imaginary, rhetorical "police state," you wouldn't be having this conversation.

Chinese and Egyptian students keep blogging, regardless of the risk.

But
that
doesn't
happen
here,
right?

The USA: just stay away from Vermont

Evidence of the cop who beat his wife for not participating in Group sex. Hmmm Let me see. I know its in one of these pockets.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/062006 GroupSex.html
http://www.shortnews.com/shownews.cfm?id=55184&CFI D=4376101&CFTOKEN=81689075

Maybe you should read my reply under ?sigh for some even better links to stupid cop tricks at the department level. I have good documentation for everything I post.

"THE GOVERNOR HAS ALSO CALLED FOR THE LIFETIME REGISTRATION OF ALL REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS INCLUDING THOSE OFFENDERS ALREADY REGISTERED." (document is in all caps, it's not me yelling) -- http://criminaljustice.state.ny.us/pio/2005-5-03te stimony.htm

"The Governor's legislation would not only expand the information available to the public by having all offenders, regardless of level, listed on the Internet, but the proposed bill would require all convicted sex offenders to register with DCJS for life." -- http://www.govtech.net/magazine/channel_story.php/ 97392

"His proposed new legislation would require lifetime registry for all sex offenders." -- http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/042805 sexoff.html

And that's not even mentioning the fact that he tried to keep people in jail who had already completed their maximum prison sentence. An appeals court ruled that illegal. I'm not sure if they ever got out.