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Freshmeat was handy, but not the end-all be-all. Some of the formerly niche projects already emrged under a larger organization, such as GNU, Apache, Mozilla, or Google.
Try http://www.ohloh.net/ instead.

...collaborate and listen. LibreOffice has ~10 times the number of developers involved ( https://www.ohloh.net/p/libreo... ,
https://www.ohloh.net/p/openof... ), and it's a better project in every possible way. The only thing you have going for you is that name you inherited for Oracle. By carrying on with this project you're just continuing a fork that serves no purpose to the community. In fact it harms the community, because new-comers try AOO and think it's the best that the community can do, when LO has shown we can do so much better.

The only upside, is that LO can import your work and benefit from what little improvements your small team are able to produce.

If it's a better project, then it's better in ways that are very mysterious: I installed LibreOffice on my travel laptop, and ran into a myriad of bugs, some of the showstoppers. I thought this was normal for both Open-and-LibreOffice. Then I started using OpenOffice of the same vintage on my desktop, and... no bugs? Nope, works flawlessly. I then installed OpenOffice on that laptop, and used it ever since.

I tried LibreOffice recently, and it was still buggy. I can't be the only one to run into LibreOffice bugs??!!

...collaborate and listen. LibreOffice has ~10 times the number of developers involved ( https://www.ohloh.net/p/libreo... ,
https://www.ohloh.net/p/openof... ), and it's a better project in every possible way. The only thing you have going for you is that name you inherited for Oracle. By carrying on with this project you're just continuing a fork that serves no purpose to the community. In fact it harms the community, because new-comers try AOO and think it's the best that the community can do, when LO has shown we can do so much better.

The only upside, is that LO can import your work and benefit from what little improvements your small team are able to produce.

If it's a better project, then it's better in ways that are very mysterious: I installed LibreOffice on my travel laptop, and ran into a myriad of bugs, some of the showstoppers. I thought this was normal for both Open-and-LibreOffice. Then I started using OpenOffice of the same vintage on my desktop, and... no bugs? Nope, works flawlessly. I then installed OpenOffice on that laptop, and used it ever since.

I tried LibreOffice recently, and it was still buggy. I can't be the only one to run into LibreOffice bugs??!!

...collaborate and listen. LibreOffice has ~10 times the number of developers involved ( https://www.ohloh.net/p/libreo... , https://www.ohloh.net/p/openof... ), and it's a better project in every possible way. The only thing you have going for you is that name you inherited for Oracle. By carrying on with this project you're just continuing a fork that serves no purpose to the community. In fact it harms the community, because new-comers try AOO and think it's the best that the community can do, when LO has shown we can do so much better.

The only upside, is that LO can import your work and benefit from what little improvements your small team are able to produce.

...collaborate and listen. LibreOffice has ~10 times the number of developers involved ( https://www.ohloh.net/p/libreo... , https://www.ohloh.net/p/openof... ), and it's a better project in every possible way. The only thing you have going for you is that name you inherited for Oracle. By carrying on with this project you're just continuing a fork that serves no purpose to the community. In fact it harms the community, because new-comers try AOO and think it's the best that the community can do, when LO has shown we can do so much better.

The only upside, is that LO can import your work and benefit from what little improvements your small team are able to produce.

CinePaint is a dead project for years http://www.ohloh.net/p/cinepai...

Lennart Poettering has had nothing to do with NetworkManager: http://www.ohloh.net/p/network-manager/contributors

Amarok never recovered after 2.0.

If Amarok was so bad, why is it so popular?
According to https://www.ohloh.net/p/amarok it has a rating of 4.5/5.0 and "High Activity" with 56 current contributors (400 overall; not even counting translations as they are in another repo (SVN not git)). That's a lot for only a music player.

Yup, I agree. I started writing a blog post about the DevMeeting, but didn't get around to posting it - I should soon. For reference, Ohloh has some pretty activity graphs.

"Net it out and the average AOO contributor is 4x as productive compared to the average LO contributor!"

especially since you are credited with millions of line changes just by yourself... for having done the initial import of the code-base in Apache's svn...

http://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice/contributors/124554084144

in fact it is even counted twice; one time for the incubator copy and one time for the tlp copy...

Not to mention that you added your wiki and you website under ohloh (yeah that is where the 31% of the source code is html comes from (and the rest is a double-counted actual source import.)

I really question what the point of AOO is at this juncture given that LO is clearly the more active project and has two years of code clean up and development over AOO due to the way Oracle let it stagnate for so long.

The point is that without the Apache guys there wouldn't be a sidebar in either project. LibreOffice has done a lot of stuff but none if it is as visible as the Apache guys have done.

Well since they laud the new sidebar so much for better use of widescreen monitors they should love the fact that LibreOffice will have it within a few days...

4.1 is due in a matter of days which has an improved sidebar that's resizeable and not just a static part of the screen.

I really question what the point of AOO is at this juncture given that LO is clearly the more active project and has two years of code clean up and development over AOO due to the way Oracle let it stagnate for so long.

If you want to try 4.1 now it is on the pre-releases page and it's the final RC there ... ie the same that will be released as final GA in a few days.

Look at that, you found a chart. Good for you.

Statistically, what you say is just nonsense.

You don't seem to understand that chart, the methodology, or statistics in general.

Fun fact: Our little discussion here actually improves Ruby's TIOBE rank. Interesting, isn't it?

Other similar sites show similar results.

No, they don't.

http://www.ohloh.net/languages/compare?measure=commits&percent=true&l0=java&l1=javascript&l2=-1&l3=python&l4=ruby&l5=-1&commit=Update

https://sites.google.com/site/pydatalog/pypl/PyPL-PopularitY-of-Programming-Language

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=ruby%20on%20rails

http://lang-index.sourceforge.net/

http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/tech-careers/the-top-10-programming-languages

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/12/javascript-tops-latest-programming-language-popularity-ranking-from-redmonk/
( http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2012/09/12/language-rankings-9-12/ )

No one cared about Ruby before RoR -- and now that RoR has fallen out of favor (the fad is over) so will Ruby. Trends appear to show Ruby as flat or in decline.

I know that you really like Ruby. That's fine. But let's not pretend that it's growing in popularity. It doesn't matter if the rumors about Ruby and RoR are true or not -- or that such-and-such criticism is just a myth or whatever else you want to bring up in defense of the language. The fact is that it's in decline and unlikely to ever again enjoy the hype it did years ago. Sometimes, being just the best thing ever in the whole of all history just isn't enough to make something popular.

You seem to have a lot emotionally invested in the language (or other people's perception of the language). Just let it go, kid. In the grand scheme of things, it's not at all important.

If the packets are known and published, just make a clone server, or proxy redirector.

4 seconds search found me some gamespy sources.

http://code.ohloh.net/file?fid=1c1Tee9ug_QdZDW7DdTP84C9r1c&cid=x9T_b9mKIf4&s=gamespy&mp=1&ml=1&me=1&md=1&browser=Default#L177

See: https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/genivi and http://genivi.org/ for details. The current driver for the innovation is BMW but that will broaden as they get buy-in from other parties. There are 11 OEM's with many names you'd recognize and hopefully this (or something like it) will catch fire.

Hello ledow,
please have a look at https://freecode.com/projects/abuledu or https://www.ohloh.net/p/abuledu-leterrier/ or https://www.ohloh.net/p/abuledu-leterrier/enlistments

i'm not alone but yes i'm the leader of this distribution for primary schools since 1998

in 1998 we started without any money, in 2000 i was a one-man company, called rycks (it was my nickname since university) and in 2003 i've setting up a free software company called ryxeo and we hire 6 people who works on educational free software

i don't want to change or find another career, education is a vocation for us, okay we could do better and nicer, with the help of 26 buyers and all the others we would go on and "change the world" (we hope) for our childrens, far away from DRM and other non free software

Thanks,
Éric

Hello ledow,
please have a look at https://freecode.com/projects/abuledu or https://www.ohloh.net/p/abuledu-leterrier/ or https://www.ohloh.net/p/abuledu-leterrier/enlistments

i'm not alone but yes i'm the leader of this distribution for primary schools since 1998

in 1998 we started without any money, in 2000 i was a one-man company, called rycks (it was my nickname since university) and in 2003 i've setting up a free software company called ryxeo and we hire 6 people who works on educational free software

i don't want to change or find another career, education is a vocation for us, okay we could do better and nicer, with the help of 26 buyers and all the others we would go on and "change the world" (we hope) for our childrens, far away from DRM and other non free software

Thanks,
Éric

Hello guys,
i'm sorry but since 1998 i'm working on free software for education and primary school ... in 2005 i've tried to put one of our software into debian, this is the "famous" ITP debian bugtrack

do you know https://www.ohloh.net/p/abuledu-leterrier/ ?

all repositories are open, do you want to commit and send us your translations or patches ? https://www.ohloh.net/p/abuledu-leterrier/enlistments

but free software developpers needs money, this website is a try to make some money with our hand-made work

Éric,
"the spammer" ... woaw, that's new, i'm a spammer :)

Hello guys,
i'm sorry but since 1998 i'm working on free software for education and primary school ... in 2005 i've tried to put one of our software into debian, this is the "famous" ITP debian bugtrack

do you know https://www.ohloh.net/p/abuledu-leterrier/ ?

all repositories are open, do you want to commit and send us your translations or patches ? https://www.ohloh.net/p/abuledu-leterrier/enlistments

but free software developpers needs money, this website is a try to make some money with our hand-made work

Éric,
"the spammer" ... woaw, that's new, i'm a spammer :)

http://www.ohloh.net/p/virtualbox
Virtualbox OSE, the open soruce edition with GPL licensing.

Go for it, mate project wait for your contribution.

I am still puzzled why so many people complain and why none of them just contribute. See the low number on https://www.ohloh.net/p/mate
Or even to make package for various distributions. Or just test and enter bug, or stuff like that.

Granted, that's much more difficult than endlessly ranting on /. And much less lucrative than making a article to cater mindless users to see the ads ( cause of course, that's the whole point )

I think you are on to something here... Compared to Emacs, Firefox has more than twice the number of LOC. And the former is considered to be a full-blown OS already by some authoritative /.ers, no less.

I think you are on to something here... Compared to Emacs, Firefox has more than twice the number of LOC. And the former is considered to be a full-blown OS already by some authoritative /.ers, no less.

Many, many open source projects need a marketing strategy and execution (did I say execution). It starts with descriptions of the project, the target audience (library for programmers, end users, supported OS, functions/features, competition/comparable projects, positioning (faster, smaller, more beautiful, supported, ...). Also gather stories from users, how they use it why and what they'd like to improve. Also don't forget history.

Make this knowledge available in a thoughtful way, if possible on the projects home page (how often is the home page indecipherable

Then spread this knowledge on websites like http://wikipedia.org/ http://ohloh.net/ and others that catalog open source projects. this makes it easier for potential users to find the project and pinpoint if they want to use it.

I doubt very much that the Apache version of OO.org is going to do much improving at this point. Virtually all of the developers have already jumped ship for Libreoffice

Huh? Are you just quoting something you overheard or have I been duped by a massive conspiracy? Maybe you should start with learning the history of OpenOffice.org before making dumb statements. Sun fucked OpenOffice.org (deliberately). Many developers, who in total had contributed little of the code that made up OpenOffice.org (most came from paid developers) - but who never the less made important contributions to OOo, left when Sun cut them out of input into decisions. Now they contribute a large part of the code to LO (don't overlook Google's contributions). These are not secrets, or a matter "of opinion" - it's not fantasy football - hint: logs. Ditto with the amount of new code in OOo. Perhaps you confuse numbers with quality of product and discount the amount of catch up that the LO team had to deal with (especially shedding the GOo cruft) - a simple check of svn and git commits would dispel that myth. But I'm make it easy for you. It's not rocket science

They're both good products, OOo has more paid full-time coders, LO has more volunteers.

I have yet to find anything that LibreOffice can't do that OO.org can.

Compatibility with MS Office varies with both (particularly with Excel) - but in general OOo does a better job, PDF editing is better in OOo as is the ability to move from Write to Calc or Base. LO still doesn't handle complex math well (that should improve soon). And what of OOXML filters?

You seem to be underestimating the number of patches and the amount of work that wasn't allowed into OO.org when Sun was running things.

You think? I suspect you'd find the OOo team has done a lot since then if you didn't have such a fanboi attitude. And you're definitely overlooking IBM's contributions from Lotus. LO and OOo use different release cycles.

There will be a new release of OOo very soon - they've been busy the last few months doing just what LO is doing (it's almost like they talk to each other).

Firefox contains 830,748 lines of JavaScript. There's more C and C++ involved, but the same is probably true of Gmail (s/C/Java/). When is the last time you looked in mozilla-central?

I want to make an open game console with Raspberry Pi. I have 2.6 million dollars worth of code released for the project according to ohloh.net: https://www.ohloh.net/p/AllBinary-Platform So I try to sell a some with my games and AllBinary Platform installed. It is an open gaming platform that runs on all kinds of hardware and Operating Systems. So far it will work on Android, J2ME, and J2SE so it covers about 2 billion devices. It is mainly and interest for Java developers that like to make games.

https://github.com/MostAwesomeDude
https://www.ohloh.net/accounts/MostAwesomeDude
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~csimpson/
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/csimpson/linux-2.6.git;a=summary

Your turn. Put up or shut up. >:3

That said, Ohloh puts me in the top 2,000 open source developers, and yet my total commit count is a bit under 2,000, so I guess it depends on your commit style. I have a habit of committing 'rewrote this subsystem' type patches when I'm working on functionality improvements, but bug fixes tend to get their own commit even if they're only a few characters of changes.

Lets try this again, logged in:

Ohloh doesn't have full version control history, but it does show a little over 30K commits to the LLVM and Clang compilers:

Time flies when you're having fun!

-Chris

Ohloh doesn't have full version control history, but it does show a little over 30K commits to LLVM and Clang compilers:

Time flies when you're having fun!

-Chris

I do a lot of small and large commits for MidnightBSD. ports work or web based projects often generate a lot of commits. I tend to do small, logic commits.

https://www.ohloh.net/accounts/laffer1

11737 just on MidnightBSD since ~2006.

That doesn't imply that I've done more work, or that my contributions are better than anyone else's.

Jim Meyering is not a human being at all http://www.ohloh.net/accounts/meyering

ohloh.net counts these things for you. For example:

http://www.ohloh.net/p/coreutils/contributors

Dani Megert : 14,143 commits on Eclipse Platform + JDT

Darin Wright : 12,642 commits on Eclipse Platform + JDT

Dani Megert : 14,143 commits on Eclipse Platform + JDT

Darin Wright : 12,642 commits on Eclipse Platform + JDT

Dani Megert : 14,143 commits on Eclipse Platform + JDT

Darin Wright : 12,642 commits on Eclipse Platform + JDT

I have 30874 on the Ptolemy II repository, see http://www.ohloh.net/accounts/cxbrx. Hauke Fuhrmann put up Codeswarm videos of the software evolution of the Ptolemy II project. See Chaotic, Less Chaotic. The number of commits is a poor measure though. I tend to make lots of small commits while cleaning code. A student doing a Ph.D., may make many fewer commits, but their commits have greater impact in the form of support for their Ph.D. We see software as a form of publication, see Software Practice in the Ptolemy Project.

Here you go-

Linux Kernel 2.6 - Linus.Torvalds - Commits: 10034

http://www.ohloh.net/p/linux/contributors

10034 > 10000.

pre2.6: more.

You are a Stupid Fu#?ing cult member and I shouldn't argue with a religious fanatic about his religion... But, my point is not that Apple didn't build upon it, it is that it wouldn't be open at all if Apple hadn't taken it from an open source project. Apple makes almost nothing from scratch that they give back. Read that list again and tell me which important projects they actually really started. It's not many. They took what they needed and gave back because usually they had no choice You give credit to your great Saviour but none to anyone else. If you honestly think that without Apples work no one would have a browser on their mobile phones I am willing to say you are damned liar. Apple would have given back nothing if they had started this thing from scratch. Apple used that code because it was short, fast, and very efficient and they didn't think they could duplicate it on their own in the time frame that they had. They needed it as their foundation which brings us back to the GPL and why they had to give back what they added. I would also point out that if you think Apple is the only contributor you are VERY WRONG. In fact if you go and look you find that google (and chromium) and many other people and companies have some of the largest contributions and that this is anything but an Apple only project even now.
https://www.ohloh.net/p/WebKit/contributors?commit=Update&page=1&query=&sort=kudo_position

It is not thanks to Apple, it is thanks to so much more.

http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/

https://www.ohloh.net/p/axStream

http://nanocr.eu/software/justeport/

http://raop-play.sourceforge.net/

First two should do the trick for Mac and Windows. The third is DVD Jon's reference implementation. The last one looks like it can pretend to be a second sound card on Linux.

Hey look, Mozilla re-invented http://www.ohloh.net/ and it only works for Mozilla. How useful.

Interestingly, if you look at http://www.ohloh.net/languages then it seems like Java is only ahead in number of projects, but behind in lines of code even when splitting C and C++.
I suspect a lot of Java OpenSource code to be tiny stuff like wrappers around a C/C++ library etc.
That said, I also suspect Java to be under-represented when you only look at OpenSource.

I've had "Securitel" monitored alarms, both the type where cable integrity is monitored at the exchange and the type where the alarm system dials out over PSTN with a low baud-rate modem.

My current alarm system, the LS-30 is much superior to both. Because it's ethernet-enabled, it can be monitored by a security company over the Internet. It also can alert via GSM or PSTN. Of course, one of the features of this alarm system is that the owner doesn't have to get a professional monitoring service, but the choice is there.

I haven't seen security company infrastructure but my impression is that they can achieve much better economies of scale by using the ContactID protocol and net-connected alarms. They can also provide better service to home owners.

I use the Scientech LS-30 which is a device supporting several types of wireless sensors including PIR (infra-red), reed switch, glass breakage detector, smoke detector, medical alert button and wireless outdoor alarm.

The alarm system can report a break-in, fire or medical emergency via PSTN or SMS. It's very programmable, with support for lots of different zones, X10 home automation switches, day-of-week and time-of-day mode setting, doorbell and so on.

The LS-30 has accessories including a GSM module (for sending alerts via SMS) USB interface and also ethernet interface.

I wrote the LS30 project to allow me to control and monitor the device from linux. There's a daemon which connects to the alarm's ethernet port; it proxies commands (from clients on my machine) and events (alerts / status updates) from the device.

I have daemons to watch for particular events (e.g. door open/close), logging the activity rates of PIR sensors (movement detection is reported by the unit even when disarmed) and burglaries (so the computer knows and can react accordingly e.g. by sending SMS messages or twitter).

Oh yeah, and in case anyone thinks I don't know what I'm talking about -- have a look at https://www.ohloh.net/p/opensolaris/contributors -- that would be my name at the top of list.

I didn't see Anonymous Coward in that list anywhere.

And yet djbdns: 3497 lines of code. And it's more secure. The half a million lines of C code for something less secure and more buggy would tend to suggest you're doing it wrong.

If Chromium includes some huge privacy issue - don't you think someone who HAS gone through the source might have mentioned it?

Chromium Lines of Code

[1,000 lines of code and over]

C++ 1.8 Million
C 604 K
XML 173 K
HTML 169 K
Autoconf 115 K
JavaScript 97 K
Python 82 K
Objective-C 59 K
shell script 47 K
Perl 13 K
Make 14 K
Tcl 7 K
Automake 1 K
C# 1 K
 

Chromium Comment Lines [Over 30,000]

C++ 297 K
C 182 K
JavaScript 42 k
python 38 K

Chromium (Google Chrome

He did a google search of 'dandaman32' probably and followed the link results. That is what I did and found out a bit more about the project.

Though, it seems that Enano CMS has a professional-looking website, a Freshmeat page, an ohloh page, a BitNami stack page, and a Twitter feed.

Did I miss anything? ;-)

Yeah. And AlternativeTo, ohloh, Linux GameTome, Stackoverflow, slashdot! It didn't help my project, but then, it's only starting and pretty niche too.
If there is no relevant question on StackOverflow, make it up and answer it yourself.
Google for your keywords and try to plug your project anywhere.