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They paid for it
Look who is taking all the money from the entertainment industry:
http://www.opensecrets.org/cmteprofiles/indus.asp?cycle=2008&CmteID=S17&Cmte=SJUD&CongNo=110&Chamber=S (Senate Judicairy Committee, which makes new criminal laws, $2,675,675 from TV/Movies/Music).
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?CID=N00009918&cycle=2008 PATRICK LEAHY (D-VT) (took $250K from entertainment industry, supports Induce Act, Pirate Act)
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?CID=N00009869&cycle=2008 Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT) (has taken $114K from entertainment, sponsored Induce Act, Pirate Act)
There are even pics of the Congresswhores hobnobbing to celebrate the passage of the DMCA.
BTW, the entertainment industry tends to give more to Democrats, even when the GOP is controlling Congress. -
They paid for it
Look who is taking all the money from the entertainment industry:
http://www.opensecrets.org/cmteprofiles/indus.asp?cycle=2008&CmteID=S17&Cmte=SJUD&CongNo=110&Chamber=S (Senate Judicairy Committee, which makes new criminal laws, $2,675,675 from TV/Movies/Music).
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?CID=N00009918&cycle=2008 PATRICK LEAHY (D-VT) (took $250K from entertainment industry, supports Induce Act, Pirate Act)
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?CID=N00009869&cycle=2008 Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT) (has taken $114K from entertainment, sponsored Induce Act, Pirate Act)
There are even pics of the Congresswhores hobnobbing to celebrate the passage of the DMCA.
BTW, the entertainment industry tends to give more to Democrats, even when the GOP is controlling Congress. -
Re:My candidate is not allowed?
One of the things that surprised me as I drilled down into the numbers, is for all of the candidates, most of the funding was done at the individual level rather than PAC money
That is because they are bundling donations. Basically you get a bunch of different people from the same company to all give money to a political candidate, thus evading the $2300 limit on personal donations.
Don't worry, the standard corruption is still there. McCain's top donator in Q3 was blank rome. They're a lobbyist group that represents companies that want to get military or homeland security contracts. Gee, why would the support the uber-pro-war candidate? -
Parent post is verifiably false.
The parent post is verifiably false on both counts, either horribly misguided or a shill for the corporate stooges they referenced.
Obama's 2004 Senate campaign finance records are easily available and seem to be noticeably not dominated by banking interests with a stake in bankruptcy law or their employees.
This matches up with Obama's vote against the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.
It's also difficult to credit Obama as a 'corporate stooge' given his record of seeking accountability and transparency for lobbyists.
Get your facts right if you're going to contribute to the discussion-- mod parent down. -
Parent post is verifiably false.
The parent post is verifiably false on both counts, either horribly misguided or a shill for the corporate stooges they referenced.
Obama's 2004 Senate campaign finance records are easily available and seem to be noticeably not dominated by banking interests with a stake in bankruptcy law or their employees.
This matches up with Obama's vote against the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.
It's also difficult to credit Obama as a 'corporate stooge' given his record of seeking accountability and transparency for lobbyists.
Get your facts right if you're going to contribute to the discussion-- mod parent down. -
Parent post is verifiably false.
The parent post is verifiably false on both counts, either horribly misguided or a shill for the corporate stooges they referenced.
Obama's 2004 Senate campaign finance records are easily available and seem to be noticeably not dominated by banking interests with a stake in bankruptcy law or their employees.
This matches up with Obama's vote against the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.
It's also difficult to credit Obama as a 'corporate stooge' given his record of seeking accountability and transparency for lobbyists.
Get your facts right if you're going to contribute to the discussion-- mod parent down. -
Re:My candidate is not allowed?
... has a fanatical support base, at least they contribute money
Looks like people contributed a lot of money. The finances are worth mentioning for all the major Republican candidates. One of the things that surprised me as I drilled down into the numbers, is for all of the candidates, most of the funding was done at the individual level rather than PAC money. I was not expecting that.
Romney, Mitt
Q4 raised: $26,928,433
Q4 spent: $33,713,503
Total raised: $88,499,686
Total spent: $86,068,239
Cash: $2,431,447
Debt: $35,350,000
McCain, John
Q4 raised: $9,714,246
Q4 spent: $10,254,446
Total raised: $41,102,178
Total spent: $38,153,750
Cash: $2,948,428
Debt: $4,516,030
Paul, Ron
Q4 raised: $19,873,329
Q4 spent: $17,478,711
Total raised: $28,101,264
Total spent: $20,262,084
Cash: $7,839,421
Debt: $0
Huckabee, Mike
Q4 raised: $6,637,063
Q4 spent: $5,391,918
Total raised: $8,986,532
Total spent: $7,090,087
Cash: $1,896,446
Debt: $97,676
By way of comparison, Giuliani, who recently dropped out of the race...
Total Receipts: $60,929,240
Total Spent: $48,152,428
Cash on Hand: $12,776,812
Debts: $1,166,509
Wow... just wow... That sort of spending puts drunken sailors to shame. -
Re:Democracy is EvilWe have a fantastic country where we can criticize our leaders, and vote new ones in as replacements. And yet we rarely do.
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Re:Ron PaulIf you want to actually accomplish something, then one of the candidates who can accomplish something might be better. In Arizona, like many/most other states, only registered party members can vote in their party's presidential primary election.
I look at the present election as-if it's already November: who could possibly beat Hillary or Obama? Based on the numbers, 'dark horse' candidate Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate with a snowball's chance in Phoenix. In comparison to Clinton and Obama, McCain has no money and no support for his "100 years in Iraq" platform, and Romney is just spending his own money to try to buy the nomination.
So, if you're registered as a Republican, a vote for Romney or McCain is a vote for Obama or Clinton. A vote for Paul counts for something.
Ron Paul is the best candidate because he tried to prevent the housing bubble, by introducing bills to abolish the Federal Reserve system. He gets no coverage from the Media-Political Complex because his platform is to take their toys away.
As for the Democrats, Hillary Clinton has done nothing to distance herself from Bill Clinton's 'free trade' policies (NAFTA, GATT, WTO), which made the housing bubble much worse than it otherwise would have been. Clinton's recession arrived the first time in March, 2001, which was too late for him to get credit, and too early for it to be Bush's fault. Bush tried the standard Keynesian "stimulus" recession remedy, but all the stimulus flowed into Chinese factories and non-productive units of housing. Now the economy's goose is cooked, so we should be thinking about who best to lead the country's reindustrialization. Obama may lack experience, but he's not evil. -
Re:heh
Excellent piece. BTW: Republicans = Democrats = Sold out. And I mean it, here is proof: http://www.politicalmoneyline.com/ - http://opensecrets.org/
I'd suggest american friends to change from a Duocracy system to a real democracy. As much is proven that a duopoly is not effective in favouring the consumer, why whould a duocracy do any better in the political field? -
Here are two places:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/
http://www.opensecrets.org/
Good places to get started to figure out where everyone stands. Don't forget your congress critters home page, either. -
Re:Honest Question
I have a theory on what caused it. The republicans are to elect who get to run as a republican presidential candidate soon. One candidate, Ron Paul, gets mutch of his support from tech people. Many tech people read Slashdot. About the same time as the racist comments started to multiply a campaign to label him racist started. The racist comments often mention this candidate. It could of course be a coincidence, but if not: Slashdot, meet politics. Politics, meet Slashdot!
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Re:Any Babelfish in the house?
The lesson I've learned in the past 7 years is this: when you start to hear trial balloons floated about an issue of authoritarian enforcement, whether it's surveillance, police powers, rights of the accused, it's almost always about corporate profits rather than the "security" of the citizens of America or anywhere else.
I guess I'd echo that sentiment by saying that the amount and flavors of fear used by both conferences of the American Political Football League is quite staggering.
You've got fear of: old age, unemployment, disease, environmental catastrophe, crime (violent, identity theft), electoral fraud, judicial activism, government peeping, religious extremism...
You're supposed to react to these stimuli like cattle to the prod, and contribute/vote appropriately.At this point, I'm prepared to take my chances with the terrorists,
OK. I'm not, but the rhetoric is a bit thin, no?
but I want to be protected from those in power.
Yeah, that 10th Amendment, and the minimalist spirit thereof, seems to get as much coverage as a presidential candidate with shallow pockets on http://opensecrets.org/, no? Civ4: "The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of an expanding bureaucracy"I like my odds vs. the terrorists.
Have you met any?But the people who are currently in power have both motive and opportunity.
They also have what they perceive is a job to do.
Our job as citizens is to reward courage in leadership, but we seem to reward leadership in earmarks -
Re:The war
This is actually true. Dr. Paul's stance on this is that he doesn't care who sends him money. He isn't going to change his viewpoint to theirs.
To go even further, he says that it works out for the better since now the money will be used to promote Dr. Paul's message of peace and freedom instead of Don Black's message of hate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcLSLGXypMY
donation record on Open Secrets -
Re:Free Speech Areas
I agree - there are far too many socialist groups influencing congress.
Funniest thing I've read all day. Try again you putz. -
Re:{sigh}
As Long as americans are still voting for people involved with MAAFIA I'd say you've got no hope.
Information is priceless: http://opensecrets.org/ - http://moneyline.cq.com/pml/home.do -
OpenSecrets.org : Online Capaign Donations Record
http://www.opensecrets.org/
I believe it's only for the US; sorry for not reading further into parent posters to see if they were from other nations. -
Re:don't like the law? They'll change it
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Re:How to tell your management structure is broken
Are we still talking about AT&T, or did the conversation move on to the Dubya administration?
They're closely related. In fairness, though, AT&T is much more competent than the Bush administration itself, otherwise we might not have much to fear. "We know where the infringing packets are. They're on the internets and north, south, east, and west somewhat."
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Re:Almost anything is better than cornThat is so funny that I almost fell out of my seat. Corn prices have stayed fairly constant for the past three decades. I am not talking about being adjusted for inflation. If the corn farmers have a powerful lobby then that must mean that lobbiest truly have no power at all. (not the case)
Congratulations, you are a master of the non sequiter. The price of corn is not a good measurement of the power of the agribusiness lobby -- what you want to measure is how much influence they have over legislators. It's difficult to measure influence directly, of course, but what can be objectively measured is how much money agribusiness donates to politicians. And there we find that in the last 20 years or so, agribusiness has donated a total of 415 million dollars. To put that in perspective, that is over three times the amount donated by defense lobbyists in the same time period, and I don't think anyone would scoff at the influence of defense lobbyists on our government. So yes, I'd say the agribusiness sector (note I deliberately don't say "farmers" because what we are talking about here are massive farming corporations like Archer Daniels Midland, not mom and pop and their 40 acres) has plenty of influence in Washington. Which is of course why so many government handouts are going to corn-based ethanol, even though corn is clearly one of the least efficient sources for that product. -
Re:Almost anything is better than cornThat is so funny that I almost fell out of my seat. Corn prices have stayed fairly constant for the past three decades. I am not talking about being adjusted for inflation. If the corn farmers have a powerful lobby then that must mean that lobbiest truly have no power at all. (not the case)
Congratulations, you are a master of the non sequiter. The price of corn is not a good measurement of the power of the agribusiness lobby -- what you want to measure is how much influence they have over legislators. It's difficult to measure influence directly, of course, but what can be objectively measured is how much money agribusiness donates to politicians. And there we find that in the last 20 years or so, agribusiness has donated a total of 415 million dollars. To put that in perspective, that is over three times the amount donated by defense lobbyists in the same time period, and I don't think anyone would scoff at the influence of defense lobbyists on our government. So yes, I'd say the agribusiness sector (note I deliberately don't say "farmers" because what we are talking about here are massive farming corporations like Archer Daniels Midland, not mom and pop and their 40 acres) has plenty of influence in Washington. Which is of course why so many government handouts are going to corn-based ethanol, even though corn is clearly one of the least efficient sources for that product. -
Numbers
here
The average since 1990 is that less than one third of their bribes go to Republicans.
That's not to say other industries don't donate to Republicans more in about the same ratio. -
Re:Rainbows and Unicorns for everyone!
just thought I'd attack the first cynical apologist for no good reason other than I don't like people like you.
Well that's fucking lame. And I don't think that apologist means what you think it does.
Want to print the names of those you accuse of corruption?
Want to cite some examples of their criminal behaviour?And where is Neil to find criminality? Buying people in the federal government is legal.
The gist of your message seems to be that cynicism can be destructive in that it may dissuade people from taking positive action. I agree with that, but you sure have an asshat way of expressing your sentiment.
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Re:Never makes mainstream news though..
Presidential candidate Duncan Hunter has raised a million bucks too, and you've probably never heard of him from the mainstream news...
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*This* administration? *D*MCA means *D*emocrat
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*This* administration? *D*MCA means *D*emocrat
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The US military want Ron Paul.
Oh and while I'm at it... The US Army, US Navy and US Airforce are some of the largest contributors to Ron Paul's campaign...
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00005906&cycle=2008
Interesting point of view on the policy towards Iraq. -
Most of the candidates are bought & paid for.Now if big media become even more highly concentrated, then big election funds become secondary to being blessed by those who tell mainstream America what to think. Awww. How cute. Someone who thinks that how they vote matters.
The largest contributors to... the Clinton, Obama and Romney campaigns are ...
Goldman Sachs... They must want something quite badly...
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00000019&cycle=2008
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00000286&cycle=2008
Giuliani's top contributor is Ernst & Young, but the banks are up there too.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009908&cycle=2008
The same people giving money to both sides... Almost as if they don't care who wins. Funny that, eh... -
Most of the candidates are bought & paid for.Now if big media become even more highly concentrated, then big election funds become secondary to being blessed by those who tell mainstream America what to think. Awww. How cute. Someone who thinks that how they vote matters.
The largest contributors to... the Clinton, Obama and Romney campaigns are ...
Goldman Sachs... They must want something quite badly...
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00000019&cycle=2008
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00000286&cycle=2008
Giuliani's top contributor is Ernst & Young, but the banks are up there too.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009908&cycle=2008
The same people giving money to both sides... Almost as if they don't care who wins. Funny that, eh... -
Most of the candidates are bought & paid for.Now if big media become even more highly concentrated, then big election funds become secondary to being blessed by those who tell mainstream America what to think. Awww. How cute. Someone who thinks that how they vote matters.
The largest contributors to... the Clinton, Obama and Romney campaigns are ...
Goldman Sachs... They must want something quite badly...
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00000019&cycle=2008
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00000286&cycle=2008
Giuliani's top contributor is Ernst & Young, but the banks are up there too.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009908&cycle=2008
The same people giving money to both sides... Almost as if they don't care who wins. Funny that, eh... -
Most of the candidates are bought & paid for.Now if big media become even more highly concentrated, then big election funds become secondary to being blessed by those who tell mainstream America what to think. Awww. How cute. Someone who thinks that how they vote matters.
The largest contributors to... the Clinton, Obama and Romney campaigns are ...
Goldman Sachs... They must want something quite badly...
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00000019&cycle=2008
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00000286&cycle=2008
Giuliani's top contributor is Ernst & Young, but the banks are up there too.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009908&cycle=2008
The same people giving money to both sides... Almost as if they don't care who wins. Funny that, eh... -
Harry Reid
My God! He's in Sierra Nevada's pocket too! This explains the hop shortage. (Warehouse fires in Oregon, hailstorms in Slovenia -- they're all just cover stories!) I keep trying to buy cascade hops, and every time I find a supplier, the government MitMs my order, tells me "sold out," and sends the hop availability intell to Sierra Nevada. Dejected by my inability to get ingredients for a pale ale, I drown my sorrows in a few pints of SNPA. It all makes perfect sense, now.
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Glenn Greenwald reports on Harry Reid's duplicity
Glenn Greenwald had a good report on this today; incredibly, only 10 senators voted against this bill. Reid allowed the bill to proceed despite Dodd's hold (the only one Reid has disallowed). You'd think Reid was bought and paid for by AT&T or something.
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Re:Contribution list
It's not complete, but if you look at this link here you can see he's in the top two of getting contributions from music/movie industries. This really shouldn't be too much of a surprise as we do live in a country where your money buys your influence.
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Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Re:Remember! Follow the money.
Well let us play Follow the Money shall we
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]
Berman, Howard L. [CA-28]
Chabot, Steve [OH-1]
Feeney, Tom [FL-24]
Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6]
Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]
Keller, Ric [FL-8]
Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29]
Smith, Lamar [TX-21]
Wexler, Robert [FL-19]
Remember to call your congress goon and make a lot of noise about this. Time to SlashDot their phone lines. -
Americans afterall like being fucked.The article reads A bipartisan group of Congressmen (and one woman) yesterday introduced a major bill aimed at boosting US intellectual property laws So it is bipartisan... I mean both groups are obviously controlled by corporations, because talking honestly who might think that this has to do with the writer getting compensated or the artist being paid in any way?? The proposed name is ridicolous Office of the United States Intellectual Property Enforcement Representative (USIPER) they would be better off calling that GESTAPO or CORP-SCHUTZSTAFFEL even if with the 007 powers of locating to other parts of the world to submit other nations to the Corporation Shedule whereever possible (Sweden anyone?)
at least some members of the Judiciary Committee are at least aware that the consumer groups have legitimate points to make Presented in this way it is a blatant lie at least. "They" (the puppets of the corporations) are aware of the consumers groups just like ShinZu says "KNOW YOUR ENEMY" in the book "ART OF WAR". They are aware so they will find countermeasures. Corporations have been screwing their costumers and paying your rapresentatives to screw your interests as citizens. Either those people presenting this bill are "fired" out of the congress either the USA have not a democracy because democracy implies that the interests of the citizens are represented by their elected politicians. These one obviously do not represent any voter who is not a CEO or something. So come out with the names of these traitors... ah well you can find them allready here and here see where the money goes. -
Re:Unfortunately...
But it does make sanse that we spend four years worrying about who is elected President (albiet because the system we have is flawed). Once someone is elected, they can do almost anything they want and the voters won't have a choice. The only reason most politicians have for listening to the public is to appease them for future re-election. Notice how George Bush was more popular during his first term, but now that he can't run again his approval ratings are lower. Since no one can do anything about our current President and current policy, people spend all of their time hoping that the next President is better.
Another note, candidates don't need corporation-sized funding to get by. Ron Paul has raised over $8 million from private individuals.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?cycle=2008&id=N00005906
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Re:constituents
Hillary Clinton is about as far from a socialist as possible. I have no idea why people trumpet this baseless notion. She is part of the capitalist status-quo, just as the rest of the "popular" candidates are. Her proposed "health care" plan, which is the only part of her platform that I imagine one could even attempt to call "socialistic" (though all of the main candidates have or will have something similar), would do absolutely nothing to combat the broken private system. True socialist change would involve placing the health insurance and pharmaceutical giants under public ownership, where they would be conducted as a public trust under democratic control of the workers. That is socialism. Creating a "safety net" or a "welfare state" is not socialism. Those are simply policies meant to keep the populace complacent, nothing more.
Also, I believe that if she were truly socialist, she would receive much less than she does in "campaign contributions" (read: legalized bribes) from corporations. Anecdotally, regarding her "health care" plan, if it would really make any profound difference in the current system, then why is she currently the number one recipient of contributions from both the HMO Industry and the Health Professionals Industry for the 2007-2008 election cycle? -
Re:constituents
Hillary Clinton is about as far from a socialist as possible. I have no idea why people trumpet this baseless notion. She is part of the capitalist status-quo, just as the rest of the "popular" candidates are. Her proposed "health care" plan, which is the only part of her platform that I imagine one could even attempt to call "socialistic" (though all of the main candidates have or will have something similar), would do absolutely nothing to combat the broken private system. True socialist change would involve placing the health insurance and pharmaceutical giants under public ownership, where they would be conducted as a public trust under democratic control of the workers. That is socialism. Creating a "safety net" or a "welfare state" is not socialism. Those are simply policies meant to keep the populace complacent, nothing more.
Also, I believe that if she were truly socialist, she would receive much less than she does in "campaign contributions" (read: legalized bribes) from corporations. Anecdotally, regarding her "health care" plan, if it would really make any profound difference in the current system, then why is she currently the number one recipient of contributions from both the HMO Industry and the Health Professionals Industry for the 2007-2008 election cycle? -
Re:Ron Paul
Barack Obama is the cleanest candidate running, even cleaner than Ron Paul (who is, admittedly, very very clean) when it comes to taking money from PACs and special interests. Observe:
Obama:
http://opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?ID=N00009638&Cycle=2008
Paul:
http://opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?ID=N00005906&Cycle=2008
I don't think you need to worry about the *AA.