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Re:That would be cheap...
I for one, do NOT want any U.S. Company taking over SuSE (or any non-U.S. controlled distro).
It's hard to say as SuSE has not yet gone public, but it seems that IBM has quite an influence there - there are several former IBMers on the board, in particular the CEO, and IBM and SAP are the only companies named as investors that have a strong tech presence in Germany.IBM has some Linux and open-source work going on in Europe, so it could be natural for them to use a European company as their Linux vehicle. For example, Linux for the
/370 (well, whatever they call it now) originated at IBM Germany, and their OTI company develops the open-source Eclipse development environment in Zurich.Also, in 2000 IBM announced investments of the order of $300M into Linux in Europe, and I would not be surprised if part of that went to SuSE. In fact, maybe this is one reason (except for the obvious ones) that SuSE is not yet going public - they probably have enough money. The IBM/SuSe hardware/software association plays extremely well here. In fact, whenever I hear Linux here, IBM and SuSE seem to pop up.
If SuSE went public, I would be in. And we all remember Digital Research and what difference IBM can make to an OS company...
Of course, Microsoft can't buy out IBM. On the other side, after cashing in lots of government subsidies for developing an independent German IT industry, Siemens sold its computer business to Fujitsu, so I do not see any reason why a non-US company should put up more resistance to Microsoft.
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Re:Open Source?
It seems it's about time for IBM to demonstrate their loyalty to Free Software and Open Source by open sourcing Rational Rose
Counter-example: IBM all but bought Object Technology International, turned OTI's Envy product into Visual Age (for Smalltalk, and then for Java), and released the latest version as a free / open source product called Eclipse. Why? Because (IMHO) every Java program written is a program that's not tied to Microsoft's apron strings, and thus might be available to run on IBM hardware. Is that the case for every program designed using UML? Probably not. ...
Note also that IBM sells a high-end, "supported" version of Eclipse called WebSphere Studio Workbench. This is aimed squarely at the big-bucks* enterprise software development market, the same folks who buy Rational Rose. There's huge money to be made in that market, and IBM wants it.
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Another source of Java runtimes...
... is IBM. These are clean-room VMs and class libraries bundled with a development environment. See http://www.embedded.oti.com. They run on palms, iPaqs and blackberries, as well as on pcs, and most platforms support midp and cldc (J2ME certified) as well as a bunch of other configurations.
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About Eclipse, NetBeans and IDEAThere are several good threads on theServerSide about Eclipse, NetBeans, and IntelliJ IDEA. Most of the posters there have used one of these IDEs.
IBM's Software Donation: Move To Eclipse NetBeans?
NetBeans IDE 3.3 released
IBM to open source WebSphere tools
threads on Eclipse
threads on NetBeans
threads on IDEA
Eclipse is a product of Object Technology International Inc., which also produced VisualAge for Java.
And as the article "Refactoring with Eclipse" mentioned, "...Erich Gamma is the team lead for Java tools for Eclipse. Gamma was one of the Gang of Four known for creating the book Design Patterns...". I think that Eclipse will be a high quality software.
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About Eclipse, NetBeans and IDEAThere are several good threads on theServerSide about Eclipse, NetBeans, and IntelliJ IDEA. Most of the posters there have used one of these IDEs.
IBM's Software Donation: Move To Eclipse NetBeans?
NetBeans IDE 3.3 released
IBM to open source WebSphere tools
threads on Eclipse
threads on NetBeans
threads on IDEA
Eclipse is a product of Object Technology International Inc., which also produced VisualAge for Java.
And as the article "Refactoring with Eclipse" mentioned, "...Erich Gamma is the team lead for Java tools for Eclipse. Gamma was one of the Gang of Four known for creating the book Design Patterns...". I think that Eclipse will be a high quality software.
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About Eclipse, NetBeans and IDEAThere are several good threads on
theServerSide
about
Eclipse,
NetBeans,
and
IntelliJ IDEA.
Most of the posters there have used one of these IDEs.
IBM's Software Donation: Move To Eclipse NetBeans?
NetBeans IDE 3.3 released
IBM to open source WebSphere tools
threads on Eclipse
threads on NetBeans
threads on IDEA
Eclipse is a product of
Object Technology International Inc.,
which also produced VisualAge for Java.
And as the article "Refactoring with Eclipse" mentioned,
"...Erich Gamma is the team lead for Java tools for Eclipse. Gamma was one of the Gang of Four known for creating the book Design Patterns...".
I think that Eclipse will be a high quality software. -
About Eclipse, NetBeans and IDEAThere are several good threads on
theServerSide
about
Eclipse,
NetBeans,
and
IntelliJ IDEA.
Most of the posters there have used one of these IDEs.
IBM's Software Donation: Move To Eclipse NetBeans?
NetBeans IDE 3.3 released
IBM to open source WebSphere tools
threads on Eclipse
threads on NetBeans
threads on IDEA
Eclipse is a product of
Object Technology International Inc.,
which also produced VisualAge for Java.
And as the article "Refactoring with Eclipse" mentioned,
"...Erich Gamma is the team lead for Java tools for Eclipse. Gamma was one of the Gang of Four known for creating the book Design Patterns...".
I think that Eclipse will be a high quality software. -
Re:they have no chance
But QNX has one HUGE advantage - their OS fits in on the much smaller devices. Even if used on larger devices, there's more room left over for apps - not to mention QNX's micro-kernel architecture.
The Photon GUI is quite small and very pretty.
You can even run a Java environment on QNX using less storage space than Embedded NT/XP/etc, using an embedded VM such as IBM's VisualAge MicroEdition with (the J9 VM) -
Re:Information About Eclipse
Whoops! you're mistaken. It was actually originally developed at OTI, a subsidiary that has a big office in Raleigh. Lots of stuff get developed at IBM around the world, then get shunted off to Toronto labs when they become fully productized.
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Check out Eclipse.org
Check out www.eclipse.org. Or for one supported product using the universal tool platform check out WebSphere Studio Workbench. or the source OTI .
[self contents apply: Disclaimers standard] fork. -
Re:IBM Visual Age products...Check out www.eclipse.org or for one supported product using the universal tool platform check out WebSphere Studio Workbench. or the source OTI .
[self contents apply: Disclaimers standard] fork.
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Re:LispM and Java hardware
Java is doing a great job in embedded systems.
Funny, you don't see too many lisp cellphones coming out these days.
Here is a development environment for java on embedded hardware.
Maybe the faq on the site can help to enlightlen you a little. -
Running Linux, or developing on Linux for a handhe
Its not Linux based OS, but if you want to develop applications for your handheld on a Linux desktop you have options.
For Java, take a look at IBM's Visual Age Micro Edition. It's a fair Java IDE for the J2ME stuff. Free if you don't need the collaboration tools offered in the $99 pro setup. Runtime... well that will cost you if you want to sell the apps to others, but that is another issue. They have a JVM (called J9) that supports Palm, WinCE, and a few other platforms (actually, they support ARM, x86, MIPS, etc., but you know what I mean). You pick your GUI setup based on the platform.
I know there are tons of other options out there for Palm OS application development using Linux as well. I started coding palmtop apps in C/C++ - there are Linux based commercial IDE's that you can get as a student.
Don't forget about vi/emacs/nedit/any other IDE either...there are some fantastic libraries out there if you want to go the GCC route.
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Re:but i digress
actually, dumbass, java was originally written with this exact purpose in mind. write once run anywhere means anywhere not any OS. they have run somewhat astray of their goal, but java first came out, it was touted as being a unifying language for devices and computers. cellular phones, organizers, telephones, televisions, portable audio devices, and even your refrigerator, plus a whole bunch of other junk.
Oh yeah, and enjoy these links:
http://java.sun.com/j2me/
http://www.palmos.com/alliance/guide/levels/global /sun.html
http://www.embedded.oti.com/ -
IBM's Embedded Java Solutions
Many people mentioned IBM's VisualAge for Java and their 1.3 JVM for Linux - these are great products.
For embedded space, don't forget about their VisualAge Micro Edition as well - you can try it at http://www.embedded.oti.com This is developed by the Object Technology Inc. subsidiary of IBM. They have a VM available something like 20 platforms including Palm.
There's even a version of the VisualAge Micro Edition IDE for Linux as well, which runs very fast, especially when you take into account that it is running on top of the JVM itself. -
How does IBM's embedded Java VM on Linux compare?
I wonder how IBM's new embedded Java VM for Linux compares. It's available as a beta for x86 and PPC Linux. MontaVista recently made an announcement that they'll be distributing it with their release of HardHat Linux.
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Java Products and Linux
Has anybody tried using VisualAge Micro Edition? It's a Java app. for building embedded Java applications, and the IDE runs on Linux. Could VAME be used to develop applications for Teapot?