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Re:Latency?Imagine how useful this could be for concerts: the sound board now has one wire running to it---the power line. Likewise with your front, middle and back stacks, and your monitors.
Not quite 1 wire (2, power and CAT-5e) but here you go:
http://www.aviom.com/dspSolutionsDigitalSnakesOver view.cfm?cat=DigitalSnakes&sec=Solutions
http://audiorail.home.comcast.net/
And finally CobraNet:
http://www.peakaudio.com/CobraNet/FAQ.html
However, these are not really the same thing, since they don't run over TCP/IP. TCP/IP (more likely UDP) running to speakers and remote amps could be interesting due to the routing possibilities, but there doesn't seem to be much information (other than theres a patent pending), we'll never know if this is for real or not. A google search for streamnet seems to hit a bunch of press releases and not much else. the Netstreams site is a little light in details, which leads me to think there's not much it, other than it is yet another home automation system that's trying to become a univeral network. When the thing sends 96KHz/24bit AES audio over tcp/ip and requires GigEthernet, I'll get interested. MP3 audio? Nope. I'll wait. -
sound over CAT5
Although this is a new twist, it's based on existing technology- I currently work in a venue where all the sound is piped through cat5 (a system called Cobra-Net [Peakaudio.com]). It's a system (or variant thereof) used extensively in large (stadium, huge theatres) venues- lighting is also controlled via ethernet these days.
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RJ45 Connector Durability Issues
There is no way that RJ45 connectors would be able to endure any kind of live stage abuse. At least mLAN uses Firewire cables which are possibly a little more durable. Why don't they update the MIDI protocol to include all these extra things. In a MIDI lead two of the five pins don't do anything anyway. Everyone's gear already has MIDI connections, so I reckon it would take a while for the new protocol to take off.
All in all though, new technology such as this will create some totally wild new music and some awesome new stage shows. I am excited! (Big Kev excited!)
Some related technologies:
Yamaha mLAN
CobraNet
Steinberg System Link
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Re:Sorry, not Ethernet
Xyzzy, is Cobranet compliant with Ethernet standards? Please give them a look at Peak Audio/CobraNet homepage.
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Replacement for cobranet!
It looks very much like this is an open source re-implementation of cobranet which is a closed source per-audio-channel license fee system used in existing installations at Tokyo Disney Seas
This is very exciting and goes far beyond just putting an ethernet connector on a guitar.
It is not just streaming audio - synchronized sample clocks are the hardest part about a system like this, since you can and do have multiple transmitters that need to be sample synchronous. That is why they have to use a 'modified' ethernet protocol.
Take a look at Level Control Systems for the type of existing high end audio DSP gear that works with cobranet.
disclaimer: I work with Level Control Systems --jeff
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Re:But we've had that for years : )Telephone lines are Cat3 cable, which has 3 twists per foot. Ethernet uses Cat5 cable which has 36 twists per foot. There is a huge difference in performance. Here is a good summary.
Furthermore, Gigabit speeds over Cat5 cable degrades after as little as 200 meters. Unless you live within 200 meters of your telco's co this is not of much use.
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CobraNetIf network audio interests you, I suggest you check out CobraNet.
Here are a few reasons why:
Already supported by a number of manufacturers including QSC, Rane, Peavey, Crest, Level Control Systems, Eastern Acoustic Works and Crown.
Uses standard Ethernet - uses off the shelf switches and hubs
Each 100m link supports 64 channels of audio
A single switch ( with enough backplane bandwith ) can support upwards of 600 audio channels
Can coexist with regular ethernet data so you can play Q3A on the same network
I am obviously biased ( check the sig below ) but what the hell...
-John
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John Dunn
Peak Audio, Inc -
CobraNetIf network audio interests you, I suggest you check out CobraNet.
Here are a few reasons why:
Already supported by a number of manufacturers including QSC, Rane, Peavey, Crest, Level Control Systems, Eastern Acoustic Works and Crown.
Uses standard Ethernet - uses off the shelf switches and hubs
Each 100m link supports 64 channels of audio
A single switch ( with enough backplane bandwith ) can support upwards of 600 audio channels
Can coexist with regular ethernet data so you can play Q3A on the same network
I am obviously biased ( check the sig below ) but what the hell...
-John
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John Dunn
Peak Audio, Inc