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There are a lot of web sites that are taken down routinely, a few of them have been politically-motivated (ie. raisethefist.com was taken down for a while and Sherman Austin arrested and detained.

However, on the issue of the French riots, I agree that raping and destroying your own community's property is bad, I agree with them.

And as for rights, of course the US/Europe/France is going to view them as illegal - no government wants something that takes away some of their power. Personally though, I could care less what the government and a company tells me I can or cannot do, rights aren't given out because of a piece of paper. Where there is authority, there is no freedom.

China is simply following the example of the world's greatest defender of free speech which also secretly monitors internet useage and jails citizens for subversion.

Nothing new to see here, move along ...

You can look here and find samples.

Um. How is this informative? It is a joke at the real subpoenas. Quoted from it:

That's right. Put down the Red Bull, scream "Holyshitmotherfucker!" as one long, unintelligible word and start saving your summer job wages, because we're coming to collect.

Of course, we realize that after receiving this letter, you may have doubts about the lengths of our penises. Our act of sending out more than 900 subpoenas could be interpreted by some therapitsts to be an effort to shore up our waning masculinity--a litigious "beating of the chest," if you will.

this is the real subpoena

"Why is it that we can post the directions for how to properly murder someone or build a bomb"

Actually, it appears you can't.

See Sherman Austin's recent sentencing, in part from putting up links to bomb making sites.

It already has. see here

to go along with his memorable raisethefist.com domain name, he could now also have "federal-pound-me-in-the-ass-prison.com" (still available) which could contain links to, and information on, methods for not dropping the soap in the shower. Large section also for how not to become "bubba's" bitch. ;o)

Naturally, raisethefist.com is pretty much devoid of content now. Fortunately for thos of us who like to know firsthand what the news is about, the Internet Archive has several backups of the site and what it's about.

Well then, we should be trying as hard as we can to destroy or disable the Governing Body that makes such stupid proposals.

It's REALLY the only way for our politicians to get a clue.

And please stop flogging the dead horse, hes/she did nothing to you. But politcians have ...

since we're so fond of quotes ...

We Used To Impeach Liars

you can disagree, but as is pointed out ... where are the weapons?

U.S. forces run out of places to look for weapons (i believe that one is plagiarized from Associated Press)

and ... do we suck at democracy so much that we -still- can't seem to get even a basic, iraqi-driven government going? at least we're not taking -all- of their guns away, just the larger stuff. but still ... we went to liberate, right? i'm thinking there are quite a few disgruntled iraqis waiting to get their country (back?) so they can rule themselves ... (and don't tell me they're not ready -- the average american isn't any more ready to make important decisions on a simple ballot.)

the fact is, we may have caused deaths based on lies. yes, people now have freedom who didn't have it ... but if anything stood out in GWB's argument, it's that we're "good and truthful" and saddam was a lying bastard ... i'd hate for us to have lied. we should at least be able to admit it and move on, if we can't find evidence to really support our position. (i'm still waiting. but i'm patient ...)

since we're so fond of quotes ...

We Used To Impeach Liars

you can disagree, but as is pointed out ... where are the weapons?

U.S. forces run out of places to look for weapons (i believe that one is plagiarized from Associated Press)

and ... do we suck at democracy so much that we -still- can't seem to get even a basic, iraqi-driven government going? at least we're not taking -all- of their guns away, just the larger stuff. but still ... we went to liberate, right? i'm thinking there are quite a few disgruntled iraqis waiting to get their country (back?) so they can rule themselves ... (and don't tell me they're not ready -- the average american isn't any more ready to make important decisions on a simple ballot.)

the fact is, we may have caused deaths based on lies. yes, people now have freedom who didn't have it ... but if anything stood out in GWB's argument, it's that we're "good and truthful" and saddam was a lying bastard ... i'd hate for us to have lied. we should at least be able to admit it and move on, if we can't find evidence to really support our position. (i'm still waiting. but i'm patient ...)

My First Message To Them:

Subject: Infoshop News
Sender: PJ

Date: 3/22/2003 12:29 PM
To: News-Feedback@google.com

I am writing to encourage your editoral team to include in the new Google news feature, (which I use quite frequently throughout the day) the news reports and services of infoshop.org
If you continue to reject your users the right to use such a great service as Infoshop News, we will organize a boycott of google, which you should know, I have bought products thru your little in-search advertisements, but I am willing to give this up if google is going to be a nationalistic, plutocratic, indymedia hating group of individuals. I will do my searching elsewhere.
Thank you for your time,
--Paul Madore, Frequent Google User

Their First Response:

Subject: Re: Infoshop News [#1908026]
From: news-feedback@google.com
Date: 3/24/2003 6:10 PM
To: ph uck auth ority at maineindymedia.org

Hi,

Thanks for your email. Google News is highly unusual in that it provides a news service compiled solely by computer algorithms without any intervention from human editors. To ensure high quality content on Google News, we require the following criteria from our news sources: (1) the organization must be made up of more than one individual and (2 ) they must guarantee that all articles will be reviewed by their respective editors prior to publication on the web.

Infoshop.org does not meet these requirements. We appreciate your taking the time to provide feedback on Google News and hope you will contact us in the future with additional observations and suggestions.

Regards,
The Google Team

My Response To That:

Subject: Re: Infoshop News [#1908026]
From: PJ
Date: 3/25/2003 5:36 PM
To: news-feedback@google.com

Hi,
Here is my future observation,
Firstly, I have had articles rejected from infoshop's Inews section. So therefore THEY ARE REVIEWED. Secondly, Chuck0 is not the only person reviewing them, he is just the head editor. How does this sound to you?

"BOYCOTT GOOGLE, BOYCOTT FASCISM"

It's up to you.

You were locked out of access to computers and the internet for a long time (internet time anyways) after doing things you agree were wrong. You are now working on a consulting business to utilize your hard learned knowledge in a productive manner. You seem to have been 'reformed' by the prison/legal system. How do you feel your life has been changed by the system when you have gone through what so many others are going through or are going to go through in the near future for technology related "crimes"? These people being persecuted by laws like the DMCA and information restriction laws. Having only started reading your book, it sounds like you don't want people to stop being curious, just to be cautious.

Your free speech rights have clearly not been abridged, nor are they in danger - or you wouldn't have been able to write what you just wrote, because you'd face imprisonment and execution within days.

The government appears to be doing this, although the time they take to wait is longer than mere days, and executions are not involved, at least yet. I point you to three specific cases:

• Tre Arrow, an outspoken environmental activist and former Congressional candidate in Oregon, is being charged with two counts of arson in connection with environmental terrorist activity. However, he does not fit the profile of the typical ELF terrorist: he's older, not in school, and very, very public in his activities. He also typically uses nonviolent tactics.
• Raise The Fist webmaster Sherman Austin is being indicted by the feds for circulating bomb-making literature and carrying an unregistered handgun. These charges came down six months after federal prosecutors told him there would probably be no charges filed.
• Community activist and American foreign policy critic E. J. Ujaama of Seattle, WA is being charged with aiding Al Qaeda by setting up a training camp in Oregon .. a charge, btw, he flatly denies.

All of these charges were filed within two weeks of each other.

I will grant that this is not conclusive evidence of a pattern of political prosecutions of critics of the Bush administration. What I am saying, however, is that we need to be wary of how the government is prosecuting its War On Terror. We need to make sure Ashcroft doesn't engage in political prosecutions, by watching these trials, and the trials of other outspoken activists, very carefully.

Your free speech rights have clearly not been abridged, nor are they in danger - or you wouldn't have been able to write what you just wrote, because you'd face imprisonment and execution within days.

The government appears to be doing this, although the time they take to wait is longer than mere days, and executions are not involved, at least yet. I point you to three specific cases:

• Tre Arrow, an outspoken environmental activist and former Congressional candidate in Oregon, is being charged with two counts of arson in connection with environmental terrorist activity. However, he does not fit the profile of the typical ELF terrorist: he's older, not in school, and very, very public in his activities. He also typically uses nonviolent tactics.
• Raise The Fist webmaster Sherman Austin is being indicted by the feds for circulating bomb-making literature and carrying an unregistered handgun. These charges came down six months after federal prosecutors told him there would probably be no charges filed.
• Community activist and American foreign policy critic E. J. Ujaama of Seattle, WA is being charged with aiding Al Qaeda by setting up a training camp in Oregon .. a charge, btw, he flatly denies.

All of these charges were filed within two weeks of each other.

I will grant that this is not conclusive evidence of a pattern of political prosecutions of critics of the Bush administration. What I am saying, however, is that we need to be wary of how the government is prosecuting its War On Terror. We need to make sure Ashcroft doesn't engage in political prosecutions, by watching these trials, and the trials of other outspoken activists, very carefully.