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I too went down the road of the Mac/Linux dual boot box. For me it was LinuxPPC...basically a rework of Redhat. Once I had it running, I was truly satisfied with my accomplishment (its no small feat, so kudos). Certainly in the documentation with LinuxPPC, it was noted that software for intel boxes was not going to run on my LinuxPPC box unless it had be ported to do so. Has this changed??? All in all Linux lasted about 5 days on my Mac. I went and scooped a cheap PII and everything worked out of the box. IMO the community of people interested in running Linux on Mac hardware is too small to have the kind of work, support and stability seen on other hardware. With the release of OSX, this will only get more true.

I doubt that very much. Since you can't have a truly useful BSD without an assload of GNU tools, Open, Net, and FreeBSD become GNU/BSD as soon as the poor user realises that he can't live without bash filename completion and colorized ls. As for GNU/Win32, that exists too: http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/. It even has gcc and XFree86.

Granted they're offering individuals a free trial subscription, but RedHat Network is charging a subscription feefor their Software Manager service. Pricing starts at $19.95/month for individual systems, with volume discounts of $990/year for 10 systems. That's the sort of money Microsoft is asking, is it not?

Granted they're offering individuals a free trial subscription, but RedHat Network is charging a subscription feefor their Software Manager service. Pricing starts at $19.95/month for individual systems, with volume discounts of $990/year for 10 systems. That's the sort of money Microsoft is asking, is it not?

Smooth installations? Check out the latest Mandrake or RedHat installations. Very simple. Very user-friendly. Plus they're customizable.

Package management? Check out Ximian's latest manager, Red-Carpet. Makes life 80% earier!

Now, before I possibly get flamed, these comments aren't just my opinion: they're also the opinions of a few of my co-workers. These co-workers were linux-bashers, until I "showed" them how to install RedHat 7.1 (red: Handed them the CD, and watched them boot said CD), then updated to the current Ximian GNOME.

Now, one of them is switching (almost) their entire home network over to Linux (except for one computer for games), and the other is asking our Technical Strategist and MIS why we don't use Linux more (both the TC and the MIS still firmly believe that Linux takes a week to install, and another week to setup, and is still lacking good server apps, like web servers, mail servers, etc...)!

More great news! I heard on a hacker mailing list, that Debian's stuff isn't protected either.

I snuck into the Debian site, and I got lots of good stuff. Programming tools, games, an OS that works, a couple of desktop environments, networking tools, server apps, ... gigabytes of cool stuff. Way more complete than that Microsoft ISO image.

Ignore the XP crap, and grab the good stuff before someone notices.

The GPL is not anti-big-business so much as it enforces a particular alternative business model which is inconsistant with current practices. If the GPL is truly anti-business then Redhat would never have turned a profit. The fact that lord Bill just doesn't like the idea of altering Microsoft's business model to come into the 21st century isn't an excuse.

--CTH


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The support for mingw/32 seems worse, since it doesn't have the Unix emulation layer provided by Cygwin

Cygwin is licensed under GNU GPL 2 or later with exception "You may link this code to any code under an OSI approved license." No binary only code is under an OSI approved license. Qt for Windows is binary only. Therefore, Qt for Windows is not compatible with Cygwin or any other GPL program.

However, Qt for *n?x can probably be made to work on Cygwin XFree86 with minimal porting.

It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:

• Linus Torvalds is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
• Richard M. Stallman, spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
• Alan Cox is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.

I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail, which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo slut!

Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children. To quote from the article linked:

'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

Is this why you were touching your penis in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis, glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

And Red Hat is secret homo slang for the tip of a penis that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other automatically.

The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously /anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no /opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

Even the title 'Slashdot' originally referred to a homosexual practice. Slashdot of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/.

The editors of Slashdot also have homosexual names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement. (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot runs on Apache!

The Apache server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

FEEDBACK

What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.

You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!

you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus, Slashdot

Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator.

ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism.

Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h, Slashdot

Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!

dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church. Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.

And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee, Slashdot

Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

One scary thing about Perl is that it contains hidden homosexual messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

And PHP stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?

Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase, Slashdot

Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.

That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

*sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.

Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation. Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!

It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.

As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.

I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman.

Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

What the fuck?

I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well bugger me!

ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Fuck right off!

IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD, which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain. You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat, but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass!

I don't know how you can look at dpkg and apt and not be impressed. Maybe people are afraid it will effect their business model's because debian is doing for free what other folks are charging for. Is either perfect? No. But that should only serve to raise the bar for each package management system. Then again splitting hairs dosen't do anyone any good, I just hope we can pick the best choice becase it _is_ the best choice.

I don't know how you can look at dpkg and apt and not be impressed. Maybe people are afraid it will effect their business model's because debian is doing for free what other folks are charging for. Is either perfect? No. But that should only serve to raise the bar for each package management system. Then again splitting hairs dosen't do anyone any good, I just hope we can pick the best choice becase it _is_ the best choice.

Here's the SDL doc project.

Here's an article comparing X-based programming to SDL-based programming.

You can use OpenGL techniques in SDL, so here's some OpenGL stuff for you...

This NeHe page comes complete with a version of the infamous Gears ported to SDL.

Finally, if you really want to start getting the best out of it, you'd better get on hardware acceleration. Either switch to one of the latest commercial distributions (RH 7.1 and Mandrake 8.0 do 3d out of the box), or use the source, luke.

Which 7.1 has it? I just looked on Redhat's site and found this Comparison Chart , and none of the the versions (Std., Dlx., Pro.) show that they contain a DVD.

Even after my repeated protests, my boss insisted I give a user the root pswd to the RHL machine in his office which he uses to check compatibility of journal papers we post online. His arguement? He has many years of experience with computers including work with the military. So I hand him a small slip of paper with the pswd on it. I tell him to memorize it and then "you know what to do with it" meaning of course to dispose of it properly. What to I watch this military man do? He looks at it briefly, then tapes it to the underside of the pencil tray in his desk! Doh!

My old employer was one extreme. They would not send me to training on the specialized tool (BMC Patrol) I was expected to support. Nor would they bother buying the manuals. Since the online user community for this product was pretty small/nonexistent at the time, I had to kludge ways around everything, which included trying to glean information wherever I could, experimenting, and finding ways to get stuff done without the tool. I believe this was unreasonable (the extra time I spent cost them more than training would have).

My current employer is a lot better about this. I have been sent to training on tools I don't even use. While this has benefited me greatly, I don't know if I would have been as generous if I were the boss.

I think it's reasonable to expect some cooperation from your employer on technologies you are currently working on (especially specialized ones for which documentation is scant). But it is unfair/unrealistic to expect them to support your Java certification, send you to linux training, or otherwise increase your value for your next employer at their expense. For most technologies, I imagine your life will not be too difficult. Nobody will stop you from buying a book on Java, XML, Linux, etc. and most employers will/should pay for such things. They should also encourage some playing around with new technologies because this is beneficial to both the employer and the employee (and helps retain geeks :).

I would, however, be careful about trying to demand things from your employer that does not directly benefit them, and might in fact harm them (such as a 2 week training session in Hawaii from which you might not return).

Oh man, forgot that cygwin has ported a x-server

MicroImages (MI/X) have a list of products that compete with MI/X.

Oh man, forgot that cygwin has ported a x-server

MicroImages (MI/X) have a list of products that compete with MI/X.

Hmmm.. how do SmartTags stand when it comes to IP and copywrite? They are, in effect, taking the web page you have published and changing it (by adding the keyword sensitive links), and then displaying it to the end user.

Yes, it's like intercepting your local TV station's signal and inserting advertisements for your company, and then broadcasting it to the rest of the city. I'm pretty sure that is illegal. What they are essentially doing is stealing advertising space from your web page without compensating you. I think that there could be a lot of copyright issues here.

I wonder what happens if I make the word "Redhat" a link to www.redhat.com and the MS-default smart tags make the keyword "Redhat" into a link to Craig Mundie's anti-GPL/open source speeches? Which link wins out win you click on it?

What if I make an image a link to a web site? Maybe I have a "powered by Apache" logo that links back to www.apache.org. Will it parse the filename of the image looking for keywords and make my apache.png a link to the IIS web site? Will it parse my ALT tags for that link as well?

Say "NO!" to tax money for religious groups.

http://www.redhat.com/

http://www.redhat.com/

Honestly, why in the world would I purchase Caldera Linux with their ridiculous per seat license when I can purchase one copy of RedHat Linux (at a lower price) and install it on as many machines as I like.
OK, according to the press release
, this distribution includes Borland JBuilder 4 from Borland. Since JBuilder is proprietary software with a seat license, Caldera is obligated to charge for each install. Its not a matter of charging for GPL software, but a matter of honoring Borland's license for their closed source software.
If you want to do Java Development (which is what Caldera is targeting with the distro) this is probably a good deal, since JBuilder costs $49.99, and the cost of the distro is $59 with support. I think that compares favorably with Red Hat's vanilla 7.1 version that checks in at $39.95.

With the headway made by GNU/FSF, I find it hard to believe that in ten years, the average computer user will still be the same old ignorant follower. I don't blame people for using what's easy, Windows IS easy. But with the curve of advancement of free software, I don't think the closed-source model will be effective at creating top-tier software.

With the recent move by Red Hat I'd guess that "Enterprise" solutions will include Red Hat Linux far more often in the future. As GUI's improve, the useability of Linux(or BSD) will reach the grasp of people who really know little or nothing about computers. At this point, Microsoft will be at a head: Either change their business model or improve their software.
Seeing as Microsoft is at an inherent disadvantage, I don't expect their software to rise to the level of OSS. It's just not feasible for them; They don't have the manpower.
You're right, they're not going away. But I'm hoping for some positive changes with their policy(lack thereof, really) on Open Source software.
digitalunity

it sure feels wrong somehow.

Not really, look at Redhat Enterprise Edition Optimized for Oracle 8i. I'd recommend people buy it when there's a need.

You can hire me to optimize your Oracle server on Linux, but I'd probably charge you more than $2500. ^_^

Commercial needs commercial grade solutions. It's not about the cost, it's about 'saving cost'.
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Honestly, I don't understand what all the fuss is about.

Unless you're the kind who likes to pay for water, just use one of the many other Linux distributions out there that don't have such odious licensing terms. It's not like there aren't any alternatives out there.

Or, better, you can use something with no restrictions at all on how you use it.

If Caldera wants to shoot themselves in the foot, who are we to stop them?

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This page is a prime example of the immense value they add. Sure, an admin out to keep on top of security mail lists and such, but how many of these programs even bother to keep security notices going back for 2.5 years? A list like (together with rpm -q) is extreemly valuable for doing a quick check to make sure you didn't miss obvious security holes.

All your databases are belong to us

Probably not

Judging by the kgcc fiasco they probably won't even make it portable across linuxes.

Actually TUX can do dynamic content itself via CGI - either standard CGI which is run in userspace and does not benefit significantly from TUX's speed, or as a CGI written to use the new TUX syscalls (a la ISAPI/NSAPI I guess), which does benefit a great deal. TUX does have the ability to transparently pass requests it cannot handle (e.g. pages that use mod_perl, mod_php) up to another webserver that can, but it's not necessary to do this to serve dynamic content.

Read the TUX 2 manual here and you'll see that this is true.

My guess is that the dynamic content in the TUX 2 benchmarks was produced using CGIs that were written specifically for TUX (it makes sense if you're trying to achieve the highest benchmark figures right?) and thus a static content-only test would make little difference to the scores.

Perhaps you were thinking of the venerable khttpd that has been in the kernel since early 2.2 days? That was the early testbed for in-kernel webserving for Linux and TUX is based on many of the same ideas although little code is shared. khttpd does indeed suffer from not being able to serve dynamic content itself, and this was one of the reasons why TUX was created.

I bumped around redhat.com and found:

http://www.redhat.com/products/software/webservers /tux/

In case anybody had no clue, like me.

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Scott Ruttencutter

Version number inflation is a really stupid concept to those who know what they are doing. But since when did that mean anything? Very few people grasp the concept that just because something has a higher version number does not mean it is more dependable or bug-free (*COUGH*Mac OS X*cough*).

In particular, this reminds me of when Slackware decided to jump to version 7 from 4 just to keep up with certain other distros when Linux was becoming popular.

Idiocy never ceases to amaze and influence. Then again, the folks in Redmond are seemingly above numerical versioning after 3.11. First Windows 95, then 98, then 98B (ooooh), then ME/2K, and after that I guess they decided to switch to something other than the year (people may start noticing how much they are being fucked over if they are reminded of the present year by looking at their boot screen) and now we have XP. After that.... XP2? XIP? LMNOP? XYZ?

Ugh.
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Thanks for your reply. Your comment is the first seriously pro-Microsoft information I've ever read on Slashdot. I think that's good. I'm not anti-Microsoft. I think I'm more pro-Microsoft than Bill Gates.

Right now Slashdot readers have a general sense that something is wrong with Microsoft; I think that readers would benefit from a more complete understanding.

Notice that you don't refute what I said; in a way you strengthen it. You say that, after 5 years of sheer hell for its customers, Microsoft is fixing DLL hell in Windows 2000.

The people at Microsoft are not dumb. They knew about the problems. As you and other readers point out, there was always a way to solve the problem of DLL hell.

Looking at the SDK, as you suggested, does not solve the DLL hell problem because it is a social problem, not a technical one.

There has always been a way for each Microsoft Windows user to solve the problem of DLL hell, as you point out: It takes a week of work after you have spent many months attaining the knowledge necessary to understand what you read during that week.

My comments are just my opinions. My opinion is that, in the transition from Windows 3.11 to Windows 95, Microsoft achieved something the company wanted. In Windows 3, the files for each program were largely segregated. That made it possible for a user to copy a program by copying its files.

In Windows 95, the registry and the mixing of DLLs created copy protection. It was still possible to copy a program by copying its files, but now it took serious understanding.

My opinion is that the problems with Microsoft Windows 95, 95B, 98, 98SE, and ME have been deliberate, on some level. There is a deliberate 64k or 2 megabyte memory limitation on what Microsoft calls GDI resources and USER resources; this is what causes most of the crashes, even when the user has 256 megabytes of memory.

My opinion is that DLL hell is deliberate in the sense that Microsoft knew about the problems, and waited 5 years to solve them. During that 5 years many users upgraded 5 times, providing a huge amount of money to Microsoft. If Microsoft had delivered a good operating system in the beginning, many users would not have upgraded.

There is a conflict of interest for a commercial company in the business of making operating systems. A company with a monopoly will make more money if there are more bugs. The bugs have to be carefully managed; they must not be too discouraging; they must be discouraging enough to make people enthusiastic about upgrading.

That's why Linux is a brilliant social innovation. The GNU GPL removes the social conflict. Linux is solely an attempt to make a good operating system; the conflict of interest is gone.

We have Richard Stallman and others to thank for that social innovation. Soon we will have an operating system that the whole world can use, and that has none of the problems created by conflict of interest.

Linux is a gift from programmers and writers to all people. We have a way to go in achieving the ultimate goal, but it looks like it won't be many years before Independence Linux, RedHat, Mandrake, and others solve the problems of making Linux easy to use. Then there can be just one mainstream operating system, available to all and usable by all, without the problems caused by hidden adversarial behavior.

Rehat has already incorporated gcc 3.0 into a patch for 7.1 and 7.0 that they are posting as a critical update.

Really? Where? It's not here.

As you might have gathered from the other posts, IDEs is not really the *NIX way of doing things.

If you want to get cozy with some common *NIX programming tools but don't feel like leaving Windows yet you can try out cygwin. It includes bash, ('Command Prompt' replacement) emacs (versatile editor) and tons of other stuff.

I think someone beat you to it.

I think you got the right idea, but the wrong conclusion. Porting may be hard, but it's next to impossible without the source. However, just look at cygwin, a posix-compatible layer on windows that makes it possible to compile alot of linux-tools on it. Many of these no longer require source-changes (merged with linux source). They are even working on an X-server, and have a fully downloadable/updateable distribution full of goodies like ls, cp, diff, vi, etc. Conclusion: Whatever "killer apps" linux gets, it will eventually be ported to Windows and/or other proprietary OSes because it is free and therefore can be ported. Cygwin is even funded by Red Hat, what business sense that makes I don't know, but it makes sense for free applications across platforms (=more freedom).

The point of free software is not "killer apps", lock-ins (or luring) and world conquest. The whole point is to educate people to see that free software (two-way sharing of code) can be beneficial to all, and get them involved in it. If people don't see this, they deserve to be stuck in whatever proprietary world they belong to. This is how the world works, not because it's evil. It's a classical mistake to throw pearls before swine.

- Steeltoe

Restricting free software to only run on Free OSen is a really BAD idea. The ability to use Apache, perl, BIND, Sendmail, and of course the incredible Cygwin, which even lets you run XFree86 / WindowMaker on NT, allows people trapped in corporate environments that are supposedly all-Microsoft shops the chance to sneak Free stuff in under the radar, and get experience with using it. These people are more likely to push for Free software later in their careers, when theyr'e not just web-monkeys. That's how I started - sneaking Apache and Perl onto Bain's corporate intranet in place of IIS and ASP. Got fired for it in the end, but now I'm doing mod_perl stuff on Linux and OpenBSD - I'd never have had the confidence to apply for those sort of jobs without the experience of using the good stuff in stealth mode.
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"

cough* EXT3*cough*TUX2*cough

This isn't the only IBM contribution. Look in the latest glibc source at the accurate math routines, for at least one other... http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/libc/ sysdeps/ieee754/dbl-64/?cvsroot=glibc

www.fucksharedsource.com

Anyway, now Microsoft have gone "open source" do we actually need Linux any more ? I mean, sure Windoze costs $$S, but then so does Red$Hat these days...

Ahem.

www.redhat.com for all your l337 0-day Linux w4r3z.

Now, how is the above "Insightful" again?

Well, there is always ELKS(Embedable Linux Kernal Subset) which runs on 8086, 8088 & 80286 (as well as some PDA called the Psion). While it's not a full-featured version of linux (hense the "subset" in the title) it does work on 16bit hardware.

You could always take a look at Minix...

Redhat's eCos is an embeded unixesque OS that runs on a number of 16/32/64bit architectures.

And, for another version of linux that runs on systems w/o MMUs, you can always take a look at uClinux(that u should be a mu, as in micro). It seems they've focused mostly on Motorola chips, but a few others (such as the i960) are supported as well.

I'm tired of doing your research for you, but I seem to remember something out QNX originally being targeted at embedded architectures, and being available on a some non-Intel patforms.

OMG, a quick check over at DMOZ.org's search engine on "embedded" gives me entire CATEGORIES dedicated about it, several of which involve Linux as well! Yahoo does too! How dare they make you -look- for information. I feel sorry for the engineer that's going to have to design the board, and look up the specs on EVERY component he puts on the board...

Well, there is always ELKS(Embedable Linux Kernal Subset) which runs on 8086, 8088 & 80286 (as well as some PDA called the Psion). While it's not a full-featured version of linux (hense the "subset" in the title) it does work on 16bit hardware.

You could always take a look at Minix...

Redhat's eCos is an embeded unixesque OS that runs on a number of 16/32/64bit architectures.

And, for another version of linux that runs on systems w/o MMUs, you can always take a look at uClinux(that u should be a mu, as in micro). It seems they've focused mostly on Motorola chips, but a few others (such as the i960) are supported as well.

I'm tired of doing your research for you, but I seem to remember something out QNX originally being targeted at embedded architectures, and being available on a some non-Intel patforms.

OMG, a quick check over at DMOZ.org's search engine on "embedded" gives me entire CATEGORIES dedicated about it, several of which involve Linux as well! Yahoo does too! How dare they make you -look- for information. I feel sorry for the engineer that's going to have to design the board, and look up the specs on EVERY component he puts on the board...

It has a 200Mhz Hitachi SH-4 processor, 16MB of system RAM, 8MB of video RAM, a seperate ARM7 core (with 2MB ram) for audio, ... the list goes on. You can find a lot more info here and here.

You didn't really specify in your post how big or small of a system you're looking to target, but for a small net appliance and/or hobbyist 2D/3D gfx fun, nothing out there (in my opinion) tops the DC.

In the US a base DC is now only $99, and the 10/100Mbit ethernet adapter ranges from $50-70, depending on where you find it (e.g. the cheapest would be eBay, but Sega also sells them). A keyboard and mouse will probably run you about $10-25 apiece.

Current OSes scrambling for exposure in the DC arena include:

Dan Potter's KallistiOS (the first native DC OS),

NetBSD/Dreamcast,

Our very own LinuxDC Project, and

There's even a port of RedHat's eCos underway!

M. R.

I'd rather have lots of updates than not enough (as long as they don't break things!)

How many people complain that RedHat doesn't release update RPMs fast enough (though you can now grab them from RawHide) and they don't show up in RedCarpet in a timely manner?

So configure your client to update on a schedule you want and be glad when it DOES run that there are fixes to be had - you could be stuck with a buggy OS that never has the fixes released on a regular basis (*cough*Microsoft*cough*)

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Maybe GSL can eventually make a dent in LAPACK.

I raised a bug with RedHat about this. Their response? "I don't have any Ex000 systems, so I have no way to fix this. Sorry."

I later found out from "other" sources within RedHat that this was a major problem. Sun would just /not/ give them decent boxes on loan so they could solve issues like this one. Very next release, Sparc support disappeared from RedHat, Digital are getting my business that otherwise would have gone to Sun, and I'll think very hard before acquiring another Sun box, ever.. (or using RedHat for that matter).

• MS's Security page
• A tour of MS's security response center
• MS's definition of a security vulnerability
• TechNet Security

In addition, please take to me to the Sun pages for Security advice, or Checkpoint's (I couldn't find any, and I have partner access), or Redhat (there's no dedicated security pages - it's under "errata") and say that Microsoft doesn't take security as seriously or more seriously than these other respected companies.

He cited the history of Unix, which has been replete with incompatible versions.

Yes, partially due to the fact that each vendor was restricted from building on the work of others, and partially due to the fact that there were multiple vendors. You won't see "Bob's Win32", simply because Microsoft actively works to prevent such compatibility.

Once solid platform-independent implementations of the various UNIX tools became available, people began switching to them. For all the complaining people do about the various Linux-based OSen, they are remarkably consistent at the most basic user level (drop me on any GNU system and I will be able to at least find my way around the system, write code, etc). And this toolkit is available thanks to the GNU GPL and the enthusiasm RMS roused in the various developers.

Secondly, free software actually enables integration with closed platforms. For example, see Samba or Cygwin, which allow tight integration between Windows and Unix (no thanks to the "open" and "developer-friendly" Microsoft). And the first thing I and most other people do when confronted with a fresh Solaris box is to install a decent userland.

"It is innovation that really drives growth," Mr. Mundie said, arguing that without the sustained investment made possible by commercial software, real innovation would not be possible.

Uh huh. Sure. Let's take the WWW as an example, since everyone lately seems convinced it's the most innovative thing since sliced bread. It was invented by a guy at CERN, and Mosaic, the first massively popular graphical client, was written at NCSA. Since Web stuff became a commercial thing, exactly what "innovation" have we recieved? Bigger and more offensive ads and horrifically noncompliant HTML, that's what.

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Actually, we weren't slagged so badly last time... at least nothing that I wouldn't have said if I couldn't check out the site and see what was going on these days (it is obviously a lot different from the googlecached stuff from six months ago).. The "+4 conspiracy post" was just a part-time spork-wielding goatrapist pictured here (don't click that unless you want your eyes to pop out) whom we pissed off by voting down his article on K5. At that time, he had created an 17-page, intricate conspiracy theory about an organization that had a net profit of about $400 and one employee (me). I think it's funny, actually.

But, alas that is over... I actually lost a lot of money because I tried to put my efforts into too many profitless free-software things. We really wanted to go nonprofit but the costs and time needed in doing it otherwise, however, were so damn high that I had to bite my lip and figure out how to manually dissolve a company, how to form an organization, what is expected of a nonprofit, how to publish our accounting data for the public to see, etc. Reading IRS forms is not fun.

I'm surprised Flatpack (aka Spiers from K5) was modded up to +4... Why? Well, he forgot the other things that our notorious organization has done:

• racketeering in local LUGs and, at gunpoint, forcing users to do a full install of Debian GNU/Linux from a crate of 3.5" floppies.
  
• the unpublishably disgusting and controversial murder of Geekizoid founder, Scott "Vlad" Lockwood.
  
• gluttonous consumption of caffeine and ... and asking Matt Szulik of RedHat to feel our warm Bawls.
  
• faking the suicide of CowboyNeal and Inoshiro caused by the depression from being in one too many questionable polls.
  
• a fanatical devotion to old Nintendo games with Engrishy dialogue and a catchy theme song.
  
• extortion stemming from stealing RMS' hippie flute so that he couldn't play music to his servers anymore. This was insanely scandalous, as the GNU servers crashed continually afterward.
  
• incorporation of incantations to Bob Saget within the kernel source.

Anyway, that's my 2c... don't read into it too much or anything. Let's be real... like any geeky club, the aim is just to have fun, build cool stuff, hack free software, chill out, and not give a fsck. It's cool like dat.. and anyone is welcome.

Lucas (Wagner)
Spindl3top
Cambridge, Mass.

> Now that XML is around and the world is saying it?s the greatest thing since sliced bread - I have an analogy.

FWIW...

I have an as-yet unreleased OSS project that I tinker with when time allows. Last summer I implemented an XML system for storing external data. My thoughts upon reviewing it: Ugh-ly!

Since then I have ripped out all the XML and replaced it with GUILE [= Scheme = a dialect of Lisp = on topic], and I find that it's much cleaner, more readable/maintainable, and incredibly easy to parse. As a free bonus, now that I've started on the user-level scripting part of the application, I can load Scheme code directly from my config files and use all the pattern matching / symbol substitution / code writing stuff that Lisp and its ilk are so good at.

YMMV, but it sure as heck works for me -- as a data language, a data-description metalanguage, and a scripting language.

As a side note, interested parties might want to investigate the use of a Lisp-style language by Xconq for specifing game variants.

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