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They were caught in October.
http://www.secularism.org.uk/n...

We have lots of Muslims in the UK, a large number of whom say they would like to overthrow democracy and introduce Sharia law. Following them is a positively good idea.

No. You should never be monitoring people for believing something or subscribing to an ideology. All you should be worried about is whether or not the law is being broken or not. There is nothing wrong with saying "I want this country to be under Sharia Law and will work to make it happen" as long as the methods you use are Legal. The government should only care when the methods are illegal in nature, the goal itself (communism, democracy, islam, etc.) is irrelevant.

If there were a reasonable probability that they would act within the law then I would agree. The thing is they say that they do not recognize Western laws.

We have lots of Muslims in the UK, a large number of whom say they would like to overthrow democracy and introduce Sharia law. Following them is a positively good idea.

No. You should never be monitoring people for believing something or subscribing to an ideology. All you should be worried about is whether or not the law is being broken or not. There is nothing wrong with saying "I want this country to be under Sharia Law and will work to make it happen" as long as the methods you use are Legal. The government should only care when the methods are illegal in nature, the goal itself (communism, democracy, islam, etc.) is irrelevant.

We have lots of Muslims in the UK, a large number of whom say they would like to overthrow democracy and introduce Sharia law. Following them is a positively good idea.

Someone from the National Secular Society stayed at the hotel with his partner, they weren't married.

Article.

I'm not sure if you'd be allowed to discriminate against unmarried people. The European Convention on Human Rights provides a right to privacy, and a right to prevent discrimination, so I hope it wouldn't be allowed.

the problem is there's no "exit ceremony" in these wackjob cults except ones involving death. if i could be un-baptised, i would.

Try this : "Debaptise Yourself - making it official", which gives the procedure for getting removed from the Catholic Church in Britain. Since they have a procedure, then it's safe to assume that the hierarchical nature of the whole Catholic edifice means that there is a procedure in all other Catholic Churches.

Write a letter to âthe competent ecclesiastical authorityâ(TM) at the Diocesan Offices giving the details of your baptism (date and place) and include at least the following paragraphs:
"I wish to declare my formal defection from the Catholic Church in accordance with canons 1086, Â 1, 1117 and 1124 of the Code of Canon Law as mentioned in notification Prot. N. 10279/2006 from the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts."
"I hereby reject the teachings, dogma and authority of the Roman Catholic church and any benefits, so-called sacraments, graces and blessings supposedly bestowed upon me, either in the past or the future. Furthermore, please note that I make these statements personally, consciously and freely."
"I respectfully request confirmation that this act has been noted in the baptismal registry (cfr. can. 535, Â 2) with explicit mention of the occurrence of a 'defectio ab Ecclesia catholica actu formali'."

On that site a number of other procedures are described.

In other news, Sarah Palin's campaign for the Presidency of the USA is accelerating.

It's great that it worked for you, but lots of people aren't receptive to even that.

Richard Dawkins did a documentary where he went into a poor school where the majority of students believed the world was just 6000 years old etc. He took a class to the beach to look for fossils. He thought that if he could just get the kids to find a real fossil for themselves, and actually hold it, then it might give them (as you put it) a feeling for "Hey, maybe they really aren't just making all this shit up."

Did it work? Hell no. The documentary tries to hide that, but what they don't say seems to be as revealing as what they do say. The whole class managed to find only 2 fossils (This is abysmal - it was a beach where you could find dozens by yourself in a day). And they only showed interviews afterwards of two of the classmates, and all they would say was pretty much "it was durrr okay"

(Link http://www.secularism.org.uk/whydawkinsisrightandhiscriticsar.html )

this is the country where saying a horse looks 'gay' is liable to get you a 3-month jail sentence

Read your own link, the guy's going in front of a judge for a public order offence (probably breech of the peace or similar), but suggesting it's because he called the horse gay gets more eyeballs.

this is the country where saying a horse looks 'gay' is liable to get you a 3-month jail sentence

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1277265220080312 - Islamic states seek world freedom curbs: humanists

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE52O5QY20090325 - U.N. urged to reject bar on defamation of religion

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iRHXSIoJJdXQpG3kPrRO2LWMnWTAD975TOK00 - UN body OKs call to curb religious criticism

http://www.secularism.org.uk/108265.html - Defamation of religion passes at UN Human Rights Council again

http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/03/26/the-slow-death-of-freedom-of-expression/ - The Slow Death Of Freedom Of Expression

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/03/freedom-for-the.html - Freedom For The Thought That We Hate

Lots more at http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=1320377548

I'm glad to see that Slashdotters are sceptical of what they read, but sometimes all it takes is a 10 second Google.

If some of the Big Three religions have their way, it will soon be a crime to mock them too.

Correction. It was George H. W. Bush(aka Senior) who said this. It was in 1987, while he was vice-president.

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