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Not so clear cut
I don't think all your examples are good and I believe there is some mis-attribution in there as well. Let's start with the ones that might support your argument. PulseAudio (Lennart Poettering), DeviceKit (David Zeuthen) and gnome-user-share (Alexander Larsson and Bastien Nocera) were all created by Red Hat employees. I would argue that neither Xorg/X, DeviceKit or PulseAudio are part of GNOME even though it runs on top of them. They are really Linux desktop infrastructure and someone's got to develop that...
Compiz was not developed inside GNOME but parachuted in from outside and sadly stalled. It is close to metacity but it wound up coming with its own set of quirks that exposed new problems in applications.
If you actually look back at the XGL/AIGLX history you will find that it wasn't just Red Hat devs (such as Adam Jackson) who didn't want to adopt it - NVIDIA believed it was the wrong direction as it prevented the hardware exposing certain features. Strangely enough, Ubuntu was probably the first major distro to ship XGL and compiz in a release, much to the chagrin of some in the SUSE community. It is worth noting that KDE didn't adopt compiz as their default window manager either.
Clutter was created by employees of a company called Open Handed which was later bought by Intel. I assume you mentioned this as the GNOME 3 gnome-shell window manager will use this library for compositing purposes.
GNOME Cheese was developed by Daniel G. Siegel when he was a student as part of Google's Summer of Code 2007 project and his mentor was Raphaël Slinckx (who currently appears to work for a company called Whatever SA).
The problem with the parent post is that it pointed to a couple of areas where GNOME has accepted "Red Hat outsiders" in, which weakens its argument. Could the situation be less extreme than it painted if such confusion can occur?
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Re:Similarly as Beagle....I don't know how Spotlight compares to Windows' built-in search or to Beagle, but I do know one reason why it's great to have... From your description I would say it isn't very comparable to Beagle, at least as far as front-end goes: for the sort of tasks you are talking about Deskbar works very well, and is pleasantly extensible (my understanding is that it is not yet quite on par with Quicksilver, but still pretty useful). Beagle provides the search capabilities that deskbar can hook into, but the basic beagle frontend is rather more search oriented rather than quick access like Deskbar.
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Re:QuicksilverI love Quicksilver on the Mac and would love Linux even more if I had QS there as well. It sounds like Deskbar is not a bad alternative to Quicksilver - it seems to offer the same sort of functionality. Having never used QS I can't comment on how they compare, but I can say that Deskbar is very powerful and well worth having, and would certainly make things nicer on Linux if you're a QS addict.
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Re:Quicksilverust to add one minor note: Quicksilver is a Launcher app, as the parent mentions, but it so much more than that. And it's one of those things you can't describe real well, you have to spend some time using it to understand. This is a bit of a catch - I am interested to know exactly what Quicksilver does, but there seem to be few good explanations. Perhaps comparison would be easiest - how does it compare to, say, deskbar for GNOME which lets you launch apps, search files, open webpages, write emails, execute arbitrary commands, and whatever else you can dream up via pluggable backends? I like Deskbar a lot - it is flexible, powerful, and lets me do everything with just a few keystrokes. Since, apparently, there is nothing at all comparable to Quicksilver on Linux I was wondering what sets Quicksilver so far ahead of something like Deskbar?
I don't have access to any Macs, so I simply don't have an opportunity to see Quicksilver in action, so thanks for any explanation you can give - I'm simply curious as to what it actually does. -
Re:dapper and edgyI just tried Dapper this week after using Breezy since it came out. The 'killer app' for me in Linux-land is the addition of the Deskbar Applet in Gnome 2.14. I don't think there is anything in Windows or Mac world that compares to this. I don't know how I got by without it.
For those who don't know what I'm talking about check this out.
Finally, some innovation on the Linux desktop, instead of "Me too!" apps.
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My take on this
I've been using Ubuntu Dapper devel so I've been using the development versions of Gnome 2.14 for some time.
The biggest change for me is probably how much better Epiphany is getting. I was getting tired of Firefox freezing for few seconds every now and then so I switched and love it! There are few issues with it but overall, very nice!
There is an overview of Epiphany here: http://ploum.frimouvy.org/?2006/03/15/100-why-you- should-try-epiphany-as-your-default-browser-with-g nome-214
and here: http://raphael.slinckx.net/blog/2006-03-15/epiphan y-is-hype-get-over-it
I also love Deskbar integrated with Beagle! I've just stopped hunting down directories. I search for folders, documents, tomboy notes, web history, bookmarks, applications etc. with Deskbar.
This plus Xgl and all the Mono stuff is making my desktop really good :)
Windows Vista has a really good competitor when it comes out. -
Epiphany improvments !
There are also a lot of new things with Epiphany.
Read : http://ploum.frimouvy.org/?2006/03/15/100-why-you- should-try-epiphany-as-your-default-browser-with-g nome-214 (lot of screenshots) and http://raphael.slinckx.net/blog/2006-03-15/epiphan y-is-hype-get-over-it and http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/avahi-epip hany-2006-02-11-17-50 -
Re:Wrong
You people make me sick, you label teenagers as a whole as morons but add that there is exception to every rule. You know what, your all morons for labeling all of us, as your generation raised all of us, if a lot of us turned out like this it YOUR fault as you are incompatible of raising us correctly, please sir get a life and stop putting others down to make yourself look good.
Not all of us teenagers are morons, as not all of us had morons LIKE YOU to raise us which think they are self-righteous. Source of them problem for this generation is the last one, and you sir are part of the last one. Let me list you some teenagers whom you included in your group which have done so much for you but all you could do is call them a moron:
Hiten Pandya - a FreeBSD developer since he was 12 and a Core DragonFly BSD developer since the project started.
The 420 Google Sumer of code students plus the 9000 others who applied.
Many KDE and GNOME developers, such as my friend Raphaël Slinckx
I could count 73 teenagers that activily develop on Mozilla (at least 1 patch per month) 30 of them are part of SLUG, there surely is a lot more.
Everyone listed on the following pages are teenagers are not morons except a few such as saddam's son ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1986_births
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1987_births
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1988_births
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1989_births
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1990_births
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1991_births
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1992_births
Sorry for the rushed post, I need to cook dinner tonight.