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Previewing Dapper And Edgy
Frank Clarkson writes to mention a ZDNet article about the upcoming release of 'Dapper Drake', Ubuntu Linux. They also give a mini-preview of Eft. From the article: "'I'm promising to impose (almost ;-) ) zero from-the-top requirements for Edgy, this release is entirely up the to development team to envision and implement,' he wrote. 'Almost everything that lands in Edgy will be driven from the development team, who get to play with whatever new technologies they fancy along the way. So that should give us a nice big bump in infrastructure and bling.'"
Proving why Developers shouldn't try to do Marketing's Job.
Edward@Tomato - /home/Edward/ man woman
man: no entry for woman in the manual.
"Qua!?"
So then can we assume this will be the long desired porn-centric distro we have all been waiting for?
I Am My Own Worst Enemy
From TFA, on possible Eft features: .a first flirt with multiarch (multiple architecture) support for true mixed 32-bit and 64-bit computing on AMD64. . ."
". .
I sure hope this happens; then I can finally switch back to 64-bit mode. I know about the chroot and all that fanciness but it's too much of a hassle.
i'm certainly looking forward to Dapper Drake in June, but I bet I'm not alone in being more excited for Edgy. I think a lot of us are looking forward to a stable implementation of XGL to "just work," because we understand this simple and unnecessary eye-candy could be just what we needed to convince some regular people to give Linux a try.
It's great to see more distros playing around with Xgl and AIGLX; the more exposure they get, the faster they mature. I've been playing around with Xgl (Compiz) in Gentoo for the last month or so and am quite impressed. A number of features are just for show, but some are quite useful. I like the implementation of a function similar to exposé on the Mac, and true transparent windows can actually be useful. Stability wise, Xgl can definitely use some work, but overall it runs quite well (I typically use it with Gnome 2.14). I would suggest running any essential processes that need to be kept running in screen, but typically I only see crashes if I try to show off too much (eg. run multiple transparent movies on top of each other while spinning the desktop).
Sadly, PS/2 was yet another victim of USB, which doesn't care what you plug into it, the electrical slut.
There was a story the other day that Larry Ellison wanted to buy a Linux distro. Suse and Red Hat were mentioned. Putting aside my feelings about Ellison, any evil intentions he may have are doomed by people like Mark Shuttleworth. My goodness, what a contrast.
of all the words in the Enlgish language, 'bling'?
"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." -Thomas Jefferson
Farty Ferret
You know, my domain name doesn't seem nearly as cool anymore now that Linux nerds are using "dapper" in distro names... wait a minute, I am a Linux nerd. Crap, I guess I was never cool in the first place.
hi mom!
Sounds to me like it's VIA's C3 bug, not Ubuntu's bug. Maybe you should get a distro compiled for i586 or even i386 instead of for i686, as a workaround?
The older C3s are Pentium Pro mostly-compatible, but are missing the cmov instruction. Most stuff compiled for the Pentium Pro or better processors assumes that the CPU supports that instruction.
AFAIK, the Ubuntu guys follow the same philosophy as the Debian project in that they don't optimize binaries for specific processors, except for the kernel. If you were to try a kernel built for i386, i486 or Pentium on that C3 box, it might well work.
(If you roll your own kernels, there's an option to build a kernel specially for the C3. That's what I do on my own C3 box (running Debian)).
-Stephen
not to be a jerk (ok I probably am), but how is an x86 distribution at fault for a chip failing to meet the x86 standard? if intel and amd can do it, shouldn't it be in via's best interest to do it as well, even if it isn't in the "standard"?
did ubuntu promise you "via compatibility" when you paid them money?
Despite the delay, my favorite new app, gnucash-2.0, won't be in Dapper. Here's hoping I can get it in Edgy, so I don't have to do this compiling nonsense...
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
The only instruction, which comes to mind, is the CMOV instruction, which is not implemented on pre-Nehemia C3 processors (e.g. Ezra). But AFAIK, Ubuntu is compiled with -march=i386, so it should not use the instruction, unless you installed some i686-specific packet (libc6-i686, kernel-686, ...).
Once the same thing has been posted three times, it becomes a superdupe!
All tag now with me!
Dapper-Backports repository hopefully will bring gnucash to Dapper
Dupe of a comment: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/12/141 7259
In which case, I'd like to use the +5 response as my own:
Thanks!
a world where high quality software, in a simple package with smiling people on the cover and no marketting speak, could be delivered in bulk, for free, to your home -- with both a live disc to try at no danger, and a full disc for when you want to run it.
And this software would work well, have free online updates and upgrades, and make it so that you could even show your friends who aren't technically inclined how to use it and gain its benefits? How it enables people like me who work on software to easily contribute to improving the lives of thousands of computer users around the world?
Yea, it's a damn shame that developers are doing marketters' jobs here. Let's all live in a world where the marketters do the developers' jobs by setting out the game-plan on features and design.
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It really appears buggy.. I installed it on a Dell Inspiron 1100 laptop, and the screen resolution was set to 640x480 and could not be changed... It had to do with a DRI video driver for x11 (xorg) that was not included with the cd.. It had to be manually downloaded, compiled and installed. They really should work on this stuff, because its stuff like this that realy not only frustrates people, but also makes them not want to work with linux. Its just not ready for prime time.
OK, maybe not first, but it would be funny if my prediction about Linux Desktop market share this year came true. Man, I would so have to lord it over my friends! ;-)
I could happen. My second prediction has already come true (but that kinda sucks, really).
Tom Caudron
http://tom.digitalelite.com/linux.html
-Tom
Right. That's exactly what the FOSS community needs. A marketing director. Because, gee, these developer fuckwits have had decades to get their shit together, and all they can come up with is better more stable software than anything out there. But nobody cares because the names are so weird. Like, what's this "less is more" thing? I don't get it. What really matters is image. Branding. Market penetration. Shareholder value.
.NET, monad, etc. I like the contrast. I like the competition. Pluralism is good. Monotheism is bad. Stop trying to impose a single paradigm on operating systems. If your grandma can't use linux, then either (a) do something about it, or (b) buy her a Mac. Stop whining that the largely volunteer FOSS community should start doing things your way. And then you folks have the nerve to complain that it's the developers who have big egos. Listen to yourself.
Listen, johnny-come-lately, the market is already saturated with market driven drivel. Go eat it up. The world doesn't need any more of it. There's plenty already. FOSS is different, and that's a good thing. If you don't like it, go away. Believe it or not, some people really don't care about world domination, huge piles of cash, popularity contests, or cute ponies.
I'm using Dapper Drake right now on a machine that is also running the very latest Windows, w/
Why don't you try saying "thank you" sometime.
...and a day zero hack will circulate underground so that the characters will appear fully clothed!
Causing an uproar from mostly basement dwellers.
LOL... what could be the reason to do that? I don't use mod points often, but in this case I felt it's needed.
Honestly, with titles like "Debian Woody", "Breezy Badger", "Dapper Drake" etc. is it any wonder the rest of the world thinks the Linux crowd are a bunch of Nerdy Nutcases?
As much as I like ubuntu and can't wait until they provide
a release with Xgl, I have to wonder just how they plan
on doing this and still keep to Stallman's principal of
no non-gpl software installed by default.
How many computers will be able to run Xgl right out of the
box without the need to manually install the nVidia or
ATI drivers to get the necessary hardware acceleration?
Oh boy I must say the product is quite satisfactory so I don't mind it was developed by Nerdy Nutcases
Copyright infringement is "piracy" in the same way DRM is "consumer rape"
Is it me or there seems to be two Ubuntu-related news everyday?
Yes, Ubuntu is great, Mark and Canonical are providing a ton of cash to Debian development and all that.
But I'm starting to get a little tired of a new Slashdot entry everytime there is a new commit to Ubuntu's CVS.
This is getting as old as "Such and Such Company, inc" is using Linux in an enterprise environment!
In the begining, it was exciting to hear of another company using Linux; it was new and got me all happy and feeling good.
Same thing with Ubuntu news. In the begining, I loved the fact that a company was investing in Debian. Now, well, I just get bored with the twice-a-day Ubuntu news.
Peace
So we'll determine the next version of Ubuntu that practically everyone uses by what the developers want.
How about an experiment where the users determine the features of the leading desktop Linux distro?
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make install -not war
This is part of a standard FUD tactic you'll get with any discussion of Linux. Somebody'll always post an anecdote about an esoteric piece of hardware they're unable to get to work, normally with the one specific distro of Linux that doesn't support it. It is a deliberate tactic to make it look like Linux has poor hardware support.
The best approach would be to let the mods do their work and it'd be -1 Troll in no time. Sadly, there are enough winshills with mod points to abuse that it'll be more likely to hit +5 Informative.
"I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
I always think the articles having to do with Ubuntu builds are LSD-induced when I first see them.
I'm pretty sure Microsoft explicitly allows their devs to read slashdot at work and to gain mod points for precisely this purpose... whole battalions of window fanatics poised to mod truly insightfull anti-microsoft posts into oblivion or mod up anti-linux posts
Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
When do Linux fans realize that ordinary users just prefer usable application and don't care much about desktop? Just follow the links listed in this LXer article (http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/54009/index. html) and you'll get prove that nothing is done to force a break through of the Linux desktop. I really hope that this is realized and taken care of by the vast majority of the Linux community one day.
O. Wyss
See http://wyoguide.sf.net/papers/Cross-platform.html
I'm pretty sure Microsoft explicitly allows their devs to read slashdot at work and to gain mod points for precisely this purpose... whole battalions of window fanatics poised to mod truly insightfull anti-microsoft posts into oblivion or mod up anti-linux posts
and this theory is backed up with what real world evidence?
I must be browsing on +5 MS Bashing because I seem to see the opposite...
being vague is almost as cool as doing that other thing...
Identical duplicate posts? FUD? By any chance do you work for Microsoft?
Who's asking- The Department of Redundancy Department?
Then refer to it as "Ubuntu 6.06", and skip the codename.
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SVM, ERGO MONSTRO.
Is libpr0n in there somewhere? I know that Firefox and co. use it.
'Yes, firefox is indeed greater than women. Can women block pops up for you? No. Can Firefox show you naked women? Yes.'
Mad Penguin ran a preview of the upcoming 6.06 Dapper release this past week called " Looking Ahead: Ubuntu Linux 6.06 ". A good read with plenty of screenshots and Flash videos of the install and desktop.
That's really Spotlight, which was a refinement of Sherlock.
Google toolbar for your OS in Windows does something similar.
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Vista and FC6 dual boot all the way, Doc!