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There's no such thing as "leeching wardrivers". Wardriving is not a crime. Please visit the below link for educaiton on the subject:

http://www.staticusers.net/wardrivingisnotacrime/

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7) Russian Mafia all actually use Macs, tell underlings to keep macs virus free so they don't have to run virus scanners.

If this were the case, it would have shades of their OS X 10.1 update CD debacle. Basically you could take the free 10.1 update CD [that you could walk into many CompUSAs and pick up off the counter] and convert it to a full 10.1 install CD. The update CDs had a file on them that basically flagged them as an update. If you imaged the disc, removed this file, then reburned it, it would act as a full 10.1 install CD.

Fer chrissake, Opener is a bash script .

In order to work, someone must either run the Opener script with Administrator privileges, or the attacker must have physical access to the machine to use an alternate boot device and select "ignore permissions" on the internal drive. Sure, it will do bad things to a Mac. I'm unaware of any system in common use on which running untrusted programs with administrator privileges is a Bad Idea.

One version of the Opener script can be found here.

This is the best attempt I've seen at making something that can 'destroy' OSX as we know it. But, even it, kind of failed. It shows that it definately isnt easy. http://freaky.staticusers.net/ugboard/viewtopic.ph p?t=10712&start=0

Hardware based keyloggers are a little easier to spot, though. You could show them pictures of hardware loggers so they'd know what to look out for. A quick Google found this one and this one, which are pretty much the only two types I've seen so far.

It should be noted though, that finding these things on an Internet kiosk would be near impossible as most of the hardware is hidden from the user's view.

Ha, I was wondering how you control the keylogger. ThinkGeek claimed both that "A menu is displayed with options to erase data, view data, search data for keywords, change password, or disable the device." and at the same time "Works with all PC Operating Systems with PS/2 keyboards (sorry, no USB)."

I was thinking about a graphical menu - looks I was wrong: http://keystroke-loggers.staticusers.net/images/me nus.jpg

I don't like keyloggers, but that is nifty.

However, it's plenty easy to install a hardware keylogger undetectably inside a chassis.

There are easier, safer ways for public terminal security.

A hardware keylogger does not rely on the operating system at all. It simply captures the keystrokes and writes them to its flash memory for later playback. There is absolutely nothing you can do in software to detect or prevent this type of device from functioning.

These little devices simply plug in between the keyboard and the PS/2 port on a PC. They're usually beige in color and look as if they're supposed to be there.

You can get them at sites like this and this.

I've never heard of USB keystroke loggers however (probably because the information transfered between USB keyboards is in an arbitrary format), so any computer using a USB keyboard (modern Macs only have USB keyboards) should be safe.

Finally, the method of data retrieval is also fairly simple. Simply unplug the device and plug it into your own computer, and in any text editor start typing a certain "code" to open an interface to the keylogger (I think some might come with special software for it as well).

Where's your cry that Macs are more secure? (USB Keyboards) http://keystroke-loggers.staticusers.net/hardware- keykatcher/

I disagree, some keyloggers can be very discreet and look just like an adapter. Like this one... Unless the teacher is at least somewhat computer savvy, they will be none the wiser.

As reported yesterday, Bill Gate's presentation of Windows Media Center didn't go so smoothly and included a Blue Screen of Death.

I bet Jobs is just scared the same will happen to him. Yeah Steve, you heard me. You are just CHICKEN! You know if Gate's and his 102% market share can't build a stable OS for his presentation, there is no way your piss-ant fruit company stands a chance. That's right Steve, better not stream your keynote.

Or maybe Steve was planning to get naked

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Yea, and a geek would never use a keylooger to get a bully's password

There is a little hacker tool called "Burn" that has been out for the mac for like 5 years (i know i know, nobody here uses a mac....)

Burn is a file-deletion utility that does what this poster just described---you can set the pattern (0000, 1111, or maybe 1010101)---and the number of passes it makes. Highly configurable.

Also has a command to "erase free space" on the hard drive---same options as the file deletion, only it cleans all the os-marked "free space."
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