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Re:Convert it to x86?
Oops. Apparently there are Lisa emulators, although the Wiki links don't go anywhere.
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Re:Next up:Delusion_ wrote:
Next up:
the Lisa II
sorry, already done. The Lisa II (or Lisa 2 or Mac XL) was the follow on to the original Lisa. It replaced the Lisa's dual 5.25-inch "Twiggy" floppies with a single 400KB 3.5-inch floppy and came bundled with a Macintosh emulation program (MacWorks XL: basically Mac ROM code adapted to run on the Lisa hardware). It was released around the same time as the original Mac and cost slightly more, but had a larger display, hard disk drive, expandable memory (up to 2MB) and an internal I/O expansion bus. The processor was slower (6MHz for the Lisa vs. 8MHz for the Macintosh) but there was a custom memory protection/memory management chip that was, unfortunately, never used in Macintosh mode.
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Re:VMs
I think id Games used to compile on SGIs. I know MS did some development on Xenix/i286 and Xenix/i386 (somewhere, there's an MS quote about how MS-DOS/Win is not suitable for serious development..hah). In fact, the i286 had a memory management unit, but the only OS (that I know of) which took full advantage of it was Xenix. Minix/i286 may have supported it to some extent, as well.
Some emulator pages....mac&ppc, simos (for SGI/IRIX5), DEC 10 and Big Iron, various DEC emulation, Apple Lisa, Z80 sim&development, yaze Z80, Apricot and Amstrad, bochs x86,
Other possibly helpful links:
emulators on freshmeat
OS kernels on freshmeat
OS's on freshmeat
bunches of old OS disk images
CP/M and MP/M
CP/M disks
Lisa Xenix
LisaOS
tandy xenix
elks and uclinux
freevms
freedos
Apple I (not II) development
reactos - winnt clone
MAME stuff and pinball Mame
info about tandy disk images
solaris minix
minix info and version 3
various free (as in beer and/or speech) OS list
The OS list at tunes.org -
Re:You got to wonder
The site seems to be here: http://emulation.victoly.com/ Must admit I couldn't find any Lisa emulators on the site, but did find this link: http://lisa.sunder.net/
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Re:Good to see originators getting credit.
Don't forget the hi-toro group which created the original Amiga, a project that was underway with a MULTITASKING gui far before any mac, and which has influenced gui design ever since.
In May, 1983, Apple introduced the Lisa, an expensive personal computer with a GUI, multitasking, memory protection, and virtual memory. See this page, check out my screenshots, or just use Google.
It wasn't a success, but it did beat the Amiga to market. As if that matters.
Two button mouse anyone? i don't see apple catching up there.
A comment like this leads me to suspect that the Amiga is older than you.
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First with the mouse-Not a lot of people know that the Apple Lisa was the first personal computer ever with a GUI, and be sold with a mouse. Most people assume it was its descendant, the Macintosh.
Interestingly, the Lisa had 512K of RAM (in 1983), four times more than the Mac had when it came out over a year later.
Problem with it, though, was that it also came with a $10,000 price tag. In 1989, Apple finally junked thousands of unsold Lisas in a nearby landfill.
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Lisa UI
FYI: for those that care about getting detailed info on the Lisa, you might want to take a look at lisa.sunder.net