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A even better solution can be found at: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t61388.html including reference links. You don't need any interaction anymore.

It seems this problem is also fixed in kernel >=2.6.24-rc4 .

Found with the help of a colleague user at tweakers.net

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Elektroschock:
That articulates your concerns much more clearly. Thanks. I don't expect to change your opinion, but perhaps I can provide insight into how and why Novell operates the way it does. I speak here from my personal perspective, and not as a cannonical voice.

* Friedman presented the 3d Desktop, Novell developed it in a closed manner.
If I understand it correctly, Xgl/Compiz was originally being developed in open source. David Reveman, the maintainer of Xgl and Compiz, has reported to me that he had few if any significant contributors. When Nat Friedman hired him into Novell, asking him to him focus on getting it working well enough for our enterprise desktop, Reveman brought his work in-house so that he could get it to a proof-of-concept state. If I remember correctly, the project went dark for about 3 or 4 months. In January of 2006, Novell released the much improved code back into open source, allowing community contributions on a very stable codebase ever since.
On the code's re-release, it was quickly snatched up by other distributions, such as Gentoo and Ubuntu.

* They gave Gnome an artifical competitive advantage
Reveman needed to prove the code on something. Maybe he prefers to use GNOME? Also, he was working on the code for a product that would concentrate on GNOME functionality (SLED10, which is not GNOME exclusive, but its features certainly emphasize GNOME.)
- Xgl itself favors niether GNOME nor KDE. It's an X server.
- Compiz stores settings in Gconf. That shows GNOME bias. However, Compiz works well under KDE.
- The window-decorator that ships with Compiz is a GNOME component (gnome-window-decorator). It works under KDE, but dresses KDE windows so that they look GNOME-tainted. There is a thread on a decorator for KDE here.

* They did it as a Novell showcase.
Yes, Novell did do that. Since that time, many adherents of distros like Ubuntu and Gentoo have come up to me at various regional Linux shows I go to, and told me that they really love what Novell has done with Xgl/Compiz. Without the hooplah, would anyone give Novell any credit for bootstrapping the project?
At Socal Linux Expo last year, I listened extensively to Aaron Seigo (Trolltech employee and KDE visionary) give me his analysis about Novell's behavior on this episode, as well as the Hula announcement. (Aaron shares some of your views on how Novell conducts itself on things like this.) I learned a lot from Aaron, and I hope to be able to go to aKademy and catch up with him there.
Having heard Aaron out, I crossexamined some of the principles within Novell about the Xgl announcement. I'm inclined to think that Novell's approach on this may not have been ideal, but also that a few people drastically overstate its negative repercussions relative to the number of contributions that were submitted before (and while) Xgl development briefly went in-house.
Finally, is it really so reprehensible that Novell--a publicly-held, for-profit corporation--wants to show off cool stuff that we produce? Like open source developers, companies that work in open source thrive in part on showing their technological prowess. The effects that Compiz makes possible have given a huge boost to desktop Linux and the potential of open source software, for which fair recognition should be attributed.

Yes, we start some of our projects in-house. Yes, we take opportunities to make headlines when we can. Would it be better for Novell to quietly announce unbaked ideas without usable code on which people can start hacking?

Mysql and postgresql are mysteriously missing from SuSE after the acquisition

I wouldn't worry too much. Although I don't have data to support this, I believe that the majority of SuSE supporters are running either MySQL or PostgreSQL in their environments.

Could Novell/Oracle really afford to have the thousands of enthusiests jump ship? These people provide the majority of the technical support and development to OpenSuSE. If they did exclude two of the highest profiled RDMSs, it would be the end of SuSE. Period.

In order to install them you must use a patch here, or they won't work.

~ Jim

Hmm... Well, I haven't found many postings about the AR5005G and ndiswrapper, but I've had loads of success with ndiswrapper, so I'd give it a try.

The Marvell Yukon sk98lin module seems to have problems with ACPI allocation of IRQs. Apparently a new module may be needed, or append the following line to your kernel configuration, acpi=noirq.

Quote:"Hi all, thanks for this post. After working about 1 full day on this problem, I found this post and the 'acpi=noirq' option seems to work on my new Toshiba M45-S2692. Whew! I've only been running about 10 minutes now, so I don't know if a slow-down will occur or not, but we will see. I'll post again after it runs awhile."

More information:
http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/inde x.php/t22077.html

Many laptops have non-standard ACPI configurations, these can be a serious problem. I haven't run into it on modern Sony or HP laptops, but I have had problems with this on Dells. Usually, either acpi=noirq or an updated DSDT table fix this. On SuSE, anyways, both of these options are fairly easy to enable without mucking around in too many configuration files.

I do apologize for not believing you outright. I had not realized there was such a problem with this kernel module, but in my defense I haven't messed with any Marvell Yukon adapters. You may consider filing the a bug report with the maintainers, if you are feeling charitable.

More information, SuSE on your laptop line. More details on it being some sort of ACPI problem. http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?s=1c1a1b2f45b1 924eca3941b91e53ff7d&showtopic=18920&pid=107003&st =0&#entry107003

Positive result with the AR5005G and ndiswrapper on SuSE. This is with a different Toshiba Laptop model:
http://www.suseforums.net/lofiversion/index.php/t1 7840.html

His main problem was getting the WPA-PSK key the same across all computers, since SuSE expects the end of the key to have padding 0, for a full 64 characters, while the Linksys router did not. I believe the latest OpenSuSE runs a recent ndiswrapper, so try that.

i would welcome your thoughts on this thread*: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showto pic=21103 * i am no techie, so this is as much for my benefit as a critique of where linux/SUSE should go..... regards Dimble

1. Their website does not mention *anything* about the break-in
2. The first link thrown up by a Google search for "opensuse hack" is a thread on suselinuxsupport.de that, apparently, has been deleted!

Nandz.

http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showto pic=20645

Of all the major distributions, SuSE has always been ahead in supporting multimedia for the average user. As far as IMing, well, that shouldn't be any sort of a problem as long as GAIM or some other client finds it's way onto the install. Keep in mind that these applications may need updating, as is common practice on any system, obviously. This is where YaST helps a lot with easy upgrading. I personally don't like YaST for much else, but I'm a configuration file freak.

Note that http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/inde x.php/t14991.html seems to indicate that 9.3 may not be as simple as I seem to remember SuSE being for multimedia, but in any case, mplayer has never failed me (Well, except for those win32codecs I miss a little bit).

Overall, your best bet would be to check out some reviews and see for yourself how the distribution's out-of-the-box experience is.

I was happy with this, but took SuSE's config as the basis to built a newer 2.6 kernel from www.kernel.org; it also allowed me to tune my processor and architecture and get rid of the unnecessary cruft.

And KDE3.3 had been available in their "unsupported" downloads section if you wanted to take the risk, as discussed in this forum at suselinuxsupport

I took the plunge with kde3.3, and it's been completely stable.