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Gnu Libc, X window and POSIX

Speaking of which, Linux seems to work just fine for me (much better than Windows), so I haven't started beating the bushes for an alternative - however, I can't stand X-Windows. The main problem I have with MS-Windows is that it (the OS kernel) is joined at the hip with that horrible desktop with its horrible overbloated API. Although Linux isn't joined at the hip with the horrible XWindows with its horrible overbloated API, but I'm not aware of any alternatives. There are lots of desktops that run on *top of* XWindows, but the only potential replacement I've ever seen is SVGA Lib, which, like the orphan OSes in the OP, doesn't get much developer attention.

This project is only economical if you have old laptops sitting around. If that's the case, you probably won't have enough CPU/RAM to install the latest version of debian.

I have built picture frames out of old pentium-class laptops ('bout $100 off ebay, or cheaper if you shop around your own town), and they have no problems running the latest Debian. Just don't run X!

I use zgv [svgalib.org] to cycle through the pictures. Works great, *and* is less filling. tua

This project is only economical if you have old laptops sitting around. If that's the case, you probably won't have enough CPU/RAM to install the latest version of debian.

I have built picture frames out of old pentium-class laptops ('bout $100 off ebay, or cheaper if you shop around your own town), and they have no problems running the latest Debian. Just don't run X!

I use zgv [svgalib.org] to cycle through the pictures. Works great, *and* is less filling. xos

No no no... to do those fun graphical things they don't load an X server! They simply use the linux console in frame buffer mode.

This is why the resolution change (even if the res is the same) is necessary. This will likely never be changed. The X server then loads up, and puts the graphics card in its desired hardware accelerated mode (as opposed to the vesa frame buffer mode).

One solution to this would be to run DirectFB, and their hardware accelerated frame buffer x server! (apprently they even have 3d accel working on some cards, plus true transparency etc). However this is less than desirable.

If you're interested in learning more about frame buffer console check out the SVGALib project... or cruise the source code to say... mplayer, AdvanceMAME, elinks, or any other project that makes use of the frame buffer for some advanced applications.

In case you're wondering, you can actually play movies in a linux console (without any flavor of X running) with mplayer! Make sure you compile it with the right options though.

This project is only economical if you have old laptops sitting around. If that's the case, you probably won't have enough CPU/RAM to install the latest version of debian.

I have built picture frames out of old pentium-class laptops ('bout $100 off ebay, or cheaper if you shop around your own town), and they have no problems running the latest Debian. Just don't run X!

I use zgv [svgalib.org] to cycle through the pictures. Works great, *and* is less filling. hhp

This project is only economical if you have old laptops sitting around. If that's the case, you probably won't have enough CPU/RAM to install the latest version of debian.

I have built picture frames out of old pentium-class laptops ('bout $100 off ebay, or cheaper if you shop around your own town), and they have no problems running the latest Debian. Just don't run X!

I use zgv to cycle through the pictures. Works great, *and* is less filling. lh

This project is only economical if you have old laptops sitting around. If that's the case, you probably won't have enough CPU/RAM to install the latest version of debian.

I have built picture frames out of old pentium-class laptops ('bout $100 off ebay, or cheaper if you shop around your own town), and they have no problems running the latest Debian. Just don't run X!

I use zgv to cycle through the pictures. Works great, *and* is less filling.

This project is only economical if you have old laptops sitting around. If that's the case, you probably won't have enough CPU/RAM to install the latest version of debian.

I have built picture frames out of old pentium-class laptops ('bout $100 off ebay, or cheaper if you shop around your own town), and they have no problems running the latest Debian. Just don't run X!

I use zgv to cycle through the pictures. Works great, *and* is less filling.

This project is only economical if you have old laptops sitting around. If that's the case, you probably won't have enough CPU/RAM to install the latest version of debian.

I have built picture frames out of old pentium-class laptops ('bout $100 off ebay, or cheaper if you shop around your own town), and they have no problems running the latest Debian. Just don't run X!

I use zgv to cycle through the pictures. Works great, *and* is less filling.

Once again, for the benefit of the retarded. Linux is a kernel. Userspace programs run on the kernel. Userspace programs are written in programming languages, then compiled for an architecture, and operating system.

Are you saying the current ATM software doesn't need to be "customized" for Windows XP/Embedded? Or just that it would be more difficult to "customize" for Linux than Windows? I would think an application running the QT for framebuffer that was talked about recently would be significantly less complex, and would require fewer "experts to keep them running". If not there are others available

Keep in mind Linux is available for $0.00 per processor, which is (my math is a little shaky this morning) 100% cheaper.

Microsoft are not stupid if they are making a windows version for ATMs they will *Make sure* it is 100% secure.

This has to be a troll, but I'll bite. Microsoft is more concerned about ATM's than nuclear powerplants?

This is a vast improvement over the prior state of affairs, where installation and programming assistance were hard to come by.

There have been three new library upgrades in the past 12 months, which is perhaps a record for SVGAlib.

While SVGAlib might not be as useful to the world as gcc, the topic here is *most improved*, and SVGAlib certainly qualifies.

www.svgalib.org

This is a vast improvement over the prior state of affairs, where installation and programming assistance were hard to come by.

There have been three new library upgrades in the past 12 months, which is perhaps a record for SVGAlib.

While SVGAlib might not be as useful to the world as gcc, the topic here is *most improved*, and SVGAlib certainly qualifies.

www.svgalib.org