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Re:Conditioned Much?The 9/11 Perpetrators Timeline The 9/11 Perpetrators Timeline
Precisely how they did it is yet to be revealed by a truly independent investigation with full subpoena power. This timeline leaves no doubt that the official story is a crock of lies, and indicates a number of people who should be taken in for questioning. For a longer exposition including proof of controlled demolitions, details of disinformation tactics, and information on moving companies, a "factoring company" that specializes in "unconventional transactions worldwide" and deals with the Pentagon, the CIA and the FBI, and possible links to organized crime, see here.
Pre-9/11 Timeline
1946: July 22. Menachem Begin's Irgun Jewish terrorists dress as Arabs and bomb the King David Hotel, killing 92 people. The Irgun also plot to assassinate British foreign secretary Ernest Bevin; fortunately, this conspiracy is foiled by MI6.
1948: May 14. David Ben-Gurion declares the independence of the new Zionist State of Israel, born from deception and from the blood of victims of Jewish terrorism hours before the British Mandate is due to expire. It takes effect at midnight, Tel Aviv time. May 15. Eleven minutes after midnight, U.S. President Harry Truman officially recognises the proclaimed Jewish state in Palestine.
1954: July. An Israeli spy ring is arrested in Egypt. These Israeli secret service agents have been assigned to attack U.S. and British interests in Egypt. "Operation Susannah" is a typical example of false-flag terrorism in which the perpetrators pin the blame on another party - in this case, Egypt and "the Arabs" - for political gain. The operation is unsuccessful, the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon is forced to resign as a result of the scandal, and the incident becomes known as the Lavon Affair.
1967: June 8. Israel carries out a sustained air and naval attack on the USS Liberty for over an hour, employing torpedoes, machine guns and napalm rockets, even to the extent of machine-gunning lifeboats launched to save the most seriously wounded. 34 men are killed and more than 170 wounded.
1983: Christopher Bollyn marries
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Re:pharma?
but I don't think there is some big conspiracy to block it or actual cures. I think the much simpler solution is that curing most diseases is much harder than curing it. And drug companies do come out with things like antibiotics that do in fact cure disease.
With all due respect, like most people inside and outside the medical community, you've been fed a line of complete bullshit.
I've got karma to burn so here goes (this is just scratching the surface):
Cancer-Gate: How to Win the Losing Cancer War by Samuel S. Epstein, M.D.
Harvard Medical Students Rebel Against Big Pharma Ties
Big pharma loves the (non-stop) war on cancer
The Nature of the Pharmaceutical Industry
Big Pharmaâ(TM)s War on Health
The drugs donâ(TM)t work: a modern medical scandal ~ Ben Goldacre
Money, Politics, and Health Care: A Disease-Creation Economy â" Part I by Mark Hyman, MD
Corruption in Drug Research and in Medicine
Scientific Sleight of Hand: Two Ways Big Pharma Lies to You
The 6 Types of Pills Big Pharma Wants You Hooked On for Life
Should We Stop Trying To Cure Cancer?
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Re:Still unfair..
I advise you to read:
Donald DuckAccording to tax historian John Witte, "In 1939 about 15% of the people paid income tax. That's all, period. At the end of the war, we had 80% of our families paying income tax." Along with Der Fuehrer's Face, another Donald Duck propaganda film The New Spirit was even nominated for an Academy Award in documentary short subjects in 1943!
So from 15% to 99% today. Also see the tax table on the page.
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Re:driving is not a right
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Re:driving is not a right
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Re:I nominate...
Constitutional amendments have had more of an affect than I think you are giving them credit. Further, there were strong protections to keep the constitution from being amended and people have allowed those rules to be ignored. It is highly questionable whether several were ratified legally according to the rules of the constitution.
http://political-resources.com/taxes/16thamendment/default.htm
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/14th_amendment_not_ratified.htm
http://www.constitutionalconcepts.org/13thamendment.htm ratified and ignored by fed -
Re:I didn't know Feinstein was a Republican....
This started in 1913 with the passage of the Income Tax Amendment AND the Federal Reserve Act.
At this point, the government had a higher power - a bank - and the means to confiscate wealth at an alarming rate.
Things were quiet - even including the Great Depression, the only notable happening was the Fed grabbed some more power to prevent it from happening again (lets see how that worked out).
Then in 1945 Congress passed the Victory Tax act. This was an unconstitutional law that actually taxed people's individual wages. But in patriotic America, no one date question it, like the invasion of Iraq. The law was repealed two years later before anyone dare challenge it and replaced with one that was constitutional.
The precedent was set though - Through a Patriotic Campaign people were convinced to pay taxes on their "wages". Forms were set up and (W-2, W-4, etc) and used to collect the unconstitutional tax. After the Victory Tax Act was replaced, the precedent had been set, and a large wage tax the database established. The forms were kept the same, so no one was the wiser.
Today you can read for yourself the constitutional definitions in 3401 and 3121 of title 26. Note the definition of wages" "employment", "United States", and "State". If you doubt the meaning of "United States" contrast it with 4612.
Further more, Senator Bailey, the biggest income tax proponent had this to say:
"I have no hesitation in declaring that a tax on any useful occupation cannot be defended in any forum of conscience or of common sense. To
tax a man for trying to make a living for his family is such a patent and gross injustice that it should deter any legislature from perpetrating it." 44 Congressional Record 1702 (1909)Well, Senator Bailey had no idea just how bad things would get. After WWII, we had a great sense of accomplishment. But we found ourselves in a cold war, and quickly moved into the Korean and Vietnam wars. All the while the expectations and budgets increased.
We are incredibly guilty of this today. We have run up a $10T deficit, and we owe it to the Federal Reserve. Our money is has dropped to 1/25 its value, by moving from US Notes to Federal Reserve Notes.
It is our demands on the government that are to blame. Before we were all paying federal income taxes (and specifically the wage tax) there could be no consolidation of power in Washington DC. But now they have a vacuum into every household of America, called the wage tax which allows them to control both sides of the equation. This is very attractive target for lobbyists. Once you only have one city to work in, you have less to concentrate on and can do so much more effectively rather than persuade hundreds in state legislatures everywhere.
But still I continue to blame us. We must reject the idea of government being the solution. It has proven that unless it is war, it is not. All the solutions have come at a cost to future generations. They don't fix the problem they just sweep it under the rug for future generations. If we relied on government less, we'd not have to worry about these gross abuses of power because 1) they couldn't afford it. and 2) no one would pay attention.
Recently several states sent letters to Washington reminding D.C. that state sovereignty still exists:
Washington State
Arizona
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Pavlovian Conditioning At Work
This strong counter-reaction to the introduction of "inconvenient truths" is a classic product of pavlovian conditioning.
For more on this, read the battle for your mind
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Re:Police State - Henry Kissinger
'The minute soldiers are marching in the street acting like cops HERE, things will change"
Hey that is the plan folks. Look what Henry Kissinger said. He is a BIG time "globalist" the "New World Order"/"One World Government" isn't a conspiracy theory...
From Henry Kissinger 1992 adress to the Bildeburger group
"Today, Americans would be outraged if U.N. forces entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow, they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario individual rights will be willingly relinquished. For the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
References:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Henry+Kissinger+1992+address+to+the+Bilderberg+group&spell=1
http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=FinalWarn08-3
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Re:Preemptive trolling: somewhere, somehow...Anybody for 1975? The political scene on the home front from which Bush had been so anxious to be absent during 1975 was the so-called "Year of Intelligence," in that it had been a year of intense scrutiny of the illegal activities and abuses of the intelligence community, including CIA domestic and covert operations.
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Preparation for what was to become the Halloween massacre began in the Ford White House during the summer of 1975. The Ford Library in Ann Arbor, Michigan preserves a memo from Donald Rumsfeld to Ford dated July 10, 1975, which deals with an array of possible choices for CIA Director. Rumsfeld had polled a number of White House and administration officials and asked them to express preferences among "outsiders to the CIA." ...
Dick Cheney of the White House staff proposed Robert Bork, followed by Bush and Lee Iacocca. ...
the CIA post was finally offered by Ford to Edward Bennett Williams, perhaps with an eye on building a bipartisan bridge towards a powerful faction of the intelligence community. But Williams did not want the job. Bush, originally slated for the Department of Commerce, was given the CIA appointment. -
So. It was proven pointless long before that.
The Murder rate in the USA is 16,000 PER YEAR.
The US terror rate since (and before) 911 death toll was 3,300 TOTAL.
We maintained our constitution for over 200 years with the number of murders growing the whole time, and we didn't take that as a reason to torch our own constitution.
911 shouldn't have changed a damn thing. Yet it seems as if the Bush team has milked it to build the bedrock for a police state. Given their political donations come from the same private interests that profit from such draconian right wing lunacy, it looks like the Bush team staged it themselves, quite honestly.
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History /Missile-Not-Flight-77.html
Getting security "locked down" is the wrong answer. Getting the nazis out of office is the right answer. -
PsyOps in actions
This message has been brought to you by your friendly PsyOps agent.
Putin == barbaric and ruthless dictator
Bush == protector of democracy worldwide
P.S. George Bush was CIA Director -
Re:Richard Reid
I didn't know the details of that event. It shows for certain that PEOPLE have learned what to do if their airplane is threatened.
For all they were going to lose in the crash, they might as well have taken a few box cutter hits than "remain seated for the remainder of" the 911 flights. I really can't blame them, though. They had no idea they were going to be used as cruise missile ballast.
Of course, I'm one of those people who thinks the trade centers were probably loaded with explosives AHEAD of time, since the third wtc building collapsed according to the signature of a professionally demolished building. It imploded straight down, and it wasn't even hit by a plane. Demolitionists have to work carefully to get buildings to collapse that way. I don't believe there was enough aftershock to cause that collapse.
Then there's the pentagon, which had a hole the size of a cruise missile.
I've heard some people say that 911 was an inside job. It is a sin to bear false witniss, and I can't say for sure one way or the other. But IF it was, and I mean IF, I have to ask whether that's where the attacks were being coordinated, perhaps "in simulation only" from the perspective of unwitting coordinators. If they were left alive after doing 911 by remote control ("in simulation only" as they had to be fooled into doing it) they would have watched TV and realized what they'd done without knowing. The cruise missile hit on the pentagon erased the very last evidence, the very same team that coordinated the attacks by remote. IF. Who knows, but if I were Kenneth Star I'd be alot more interested in THAT case than in Clinton's sex scandals.
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Taxes are not voluntary.
"Obviously in your fantasy world, immigration is a word that has no meaning."
No, it is not voluntary if your only "option" is to flee hundreds or thousands of miles away to get away from the thieves. What is voluntary taxation, then? That's when, if you fail to mail in your 1040 form in April, nobody harasses you and you can get away with it, since if it is voluntary, then it is your choice entirely. Since, in the real world, it's not your choice at all and you'll eventually get kidnapped, assaulted, or possibly killed for refusing to pay, taxation is anything but voluntary.
You'd also do well to check Federal, State, and local government legal codes which specifically state that paying taxes is compulsory, not voluntary. There's a lot of detail on forced compliance and the threats of violence and further robbery to enforce it.
The only people who, in fact, make the silly claim that paying taxes is only voluntary are some kooky scammers who make the claim that taxation is illegal in the US and it is perfectly legal to avoid it. While I know taxation is a formed of armed robbery, I know that it is legal in the US, and a certain amount of taxation is justified. Just not the ludicrously excessive overtaxation we have now (a burden which should be diminished significantly, through the legislative process).
And also, thanks for ignoring the REAL truth on "which is better to live in, Sweden or the US" which is shown by the numbers of people from Sweden moving to the US, and the lack of immigrants going the other way. -
Re:If an airplane's 'black box' is indestructible.
>A couple months ago, I got into a discussion about the WTC collapse. One thing that was mentioned is that a large part of the collapse was due to the extreme temperatures of burning jet fuel weakening the elastic modulus of the steel-framed structure.
Doesn't sound like a good discussion then. Most of the jet fuel exploded outside the building. A half-hour later, there were people standing in the impact zones. Chief Palmer reached the 78th floor and reported that they could "knock it down with two lines."
The WTC collapses may be a tricky structural subject, but extreme temperatures is probably the biggest, most easily proved flaw in the argument. -
Re:Until the government says "National Security"
I would like to make clear that this effort had nothing to do with national security. What is more it has only one obvious conclusion for its objective. That I will let the readers figure out as they read what is the truth about what is going on. Please understand, I have read the requests for proposals and looked at bidding on the contracts to provide the service that now serves the NSA and the CIA and several US DOD operations. I know exactly what I am talking about here. This is not a supposition.
The programs involved were not simply limited to acquiring the phone numbers dialed and times of calls etc like portrayed. The data was collected under the direction of Admiral Poindexter who was removed but the contracts and work continued. The program was to provide Total Information Awareness.
The level of information mined includes 100% of all commercial database data that could be obtained. This was not necessarily limited to the amount of data "Legally" obtainable. It included software engines to recognize speach, pictures and to even identify where a picture was taken, when and what angles etc. It was not limited to metadata either. The engines would generate contextual metadata on their own. The intent was to be able to listen electronically to 100% of all world wide phone, fax and internet traffic with full understanding and full cross reference of data. The computer networks and engines to do this are very big and do exist. The US Government under this routinely intercepts a large amount of data and has search engine skill applied to the output.
My company would not bid on the contracts even though we would do some things because some of us in the company were not invertebrates. We could see that this had no purpose regards the military GWAT (Global War On Terror). It was a level of spying and information gathering that clearly had no innocent purpose.We had other contracts which were also out of Admiral Poindexters office.
It is clear that Al Qaeda etc had nothing to fear from such a system. Their hand carried and simple word swap encryption (Private Codes) work well against such an engine. Bojinka for example would have had no meaning until an arrest was made.
The value of data to coerse a Congressman or a citizen or to produce "faked up" arrest data would be endless. The value to compromise the integrity of any democratic process and produce extortion is endless as well. (Please use your brain here: Ask why would a government want to do this? Ask what would they do this for?)
Rest assured that recording of your phone numbers and who you called is not even significant to this operation. The level of it is deeper and more complete information on every living person on the planet than has been collected by the secret police of any terroristic evil regieme in history. The level of data here is beyond the wildest dreams of the NAZI SS in their worst days. Do what you will with this information. You now know the level of the data collection. You know know a lot. What we are facing is a situation I described to my nephew one day regards girls. I told him to never do by the dark of night, that which he didn't expect to see on a webcam, because it probably is on a webcam! You have no privacy. The issue is what you do and how you react to it.
Remember that a dishonest political prosecutor or dishonest official might well take custody of this data some day. It will all be there just waiting for his use.
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Re:conspiracy theory
Um, I have a hard time believing that you actually want me to link to a bunch of conspiracy theorism sites. But for your amusement, here you go.
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History /Missile-Not-Flight-77.html
http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon.html
http://www.oilempire.us/remote.html
If you are actually asking for hard evidence, your comment is more of a troll than mine was. If hard evidence existed, Bush would be in prison right now. -
This is tax evasion/Tax issues
You can bet the IRS will have a field day. They don't like to see huge drops in wages until retirement age. Being young I bet they will be flagged for suspicous activity and investigated.
Now I have been studying the tax sytem. I oppose the belief that there is an "income tax" on people at all. But this to too radical an approach. I have been called a "tax protestor" by people on the board. Let me ask this: Have the google founders avioded a "duty" to pau "their fair share"? Why does ones "fair share" (or their "duty") to the government increase or decrease on how many hours they punch on a clock? Does Bob the janitor owe the country more if he mops floors 2 hours extra a day? Why has he incurred additional liabilty to the government? Surely his mopping does not add and costs to the government
What has happened? Well, the IRS has been extremely effective at making people think that "wages are income" when in fact only wages from public service are "income". In order to read the 16th amendment you have tounderstand waht the word "income" in 1913 meant. It did not come to mean "everything that comes in" until 1942. What happened in 1942, well we had a var, a victory tax, and a duck. Why did it take Donald Duck to make all wages taxed? Does any of that change what "income" is defined as? No. But the IRS is very convicing and has several tricks up its seleve. In fact, in 1913 interpretaion of the term, I read court casea about people paying taxes on stuff that is not even income! The IRS doesn't care if your assesment is right, just that they get the most from you. After all they are hired agents whose mission it is to collect everything that they can.
Incentelly, we use a system of "self assessment". The crux of that is one only need to convince himself what is and what is not income. If a computer wereto do it, it would have to use the formal definition and many american's taxes would be much lower. It is completely in the poer of government with the advent of computers to eliminate April 15th. Why don't they? Well there's a huge tax industry for one, two, they oould loose money. ALL of your "income" recipts are eletronically transmitted. Why can't they just use those. Anyone awarding you "income" has to produce some recipt (1099, w2)
If you read the book in my sig, you'll find out starling truths. I have not even started the ligitimacy of the income tax debate.
The book below only talks about whether or not your wages are taxed (never mind the taxable issue) and how to overcome a w-2 or 1099 that is issued in error. -
Re:i'm doing my taxes today
The government does what they feel is in the best interest of their people.
...except it doesn't. In fact these days I'm not even sure it should.
oh, yeah .. the american gov't is definitely acting in the interests of its people .. especially by not telling them the real reasons for things. when they say "protecting national security", they really mean "preventing our nation from collapsing in civil war"... -
Re:True opposites"in 1978 we were told that we had less than 10 years worth of oil still in the ground? Since then we have learned quite the opposite."
I guess this is the opposite
:-)No, that would be more of the same "Peak Oil" crap, which relies upon the assumption that oil exists only down to a certain depth beneath the earth's surface in order to calculate "undiscovered reserves". The Russians are finding oil more than 40,000 feet deep. This, plus the fact that the theory that oil is a finite, depletable resource was formed in the mid-1700's and hasn't really changed since. Lot's of information to discredit Hubbert out there. Just depends on which side you choose to believe: the doomsday scenario, or one that doesn't conveniently ignore contradictory evidence.