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Users said it works: Mnenhy and MIDF, also Tagzilla, infoRSS, DeleteDuplicates, Enigmail (except the GTK2-Linux-Compiler-Issue), JSLIB, Flashblock 1.3.3 http://flashblock.mozdev.org/installation2.html>, LCARStrek, adblock, RadialContext, extuninstall. extuninstallapi, gdirections-0.9.9-fx+mz+tb, ie_view-1.2.7-fx+mz, jslib_lite-0.1.234-fx+mz+tb, tabx, timestatus, undoclosetab-20040617-fx+mz... PrefBar I haven't tested myself. One developer said it worked and one user said it didn't worked, but they don't cited the version. I think that a not released version is working (maybe out soon). Themes: Really Modern Orb Colors Classic http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=3&si d=4ed53bfe2a2d7a5ac375ce39876f866b> Mostly Crystal http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla/ EarlyBlue and LCARStrek http://www.kairo.at/download

Here is what I use-http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey.html It even has a dancing tux for a throbber!

Now if they'd just replace that fugly default skin with something nice like this-http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey.html it would be perfect.Long live Seamonkey!

Why? For me, it's the following:

Since I use a browser and an email client - it makes sense to have them bundled in a smaller footprint, _especially_ seeing as how I have older machines. Along with using less memory, it's also easy to update both.

If I want to do up some _really_ quick html (which I do once in a great while), I have the composer.

I search from my address bar.

The "Edit > Preferences" gives me more options*. I still use my about:config too. :)

*there are a couple of options I'd like to see from the Firefox equivalent though - such as the "clear all' option.

When loading a page in a new tab, when I press the esc key (or the stop button) the page stops loading - _without_clearing_ the url from the address bar. Excellent!

If for some reason I need to get on the hell known as IRC - I can.

I agree the UI is fugly, but thats why I use the Mostly Crystal (Small) Theme by Cat Thief.

Firefox is a very nice browser compared to IE and none of this should be taken as a flame of FF. However, the suite fits my needs better and even if I didn't need the email client etc, I like the browser portion more than I do FF.

At work (web development & financial software development) and at home I use the Mozilla Suite. The only time I will install FireFox is if I dont need email.

A 12 MB download is not bloated, even for me on a 52kbps connection. Installing IRC is optional on Windows and Linux.

Here are some of my reasons for sticking with the Mozilla Suite:

• I like being able to alter my program preferences (for the browser and email client from the one screen)
• I also believe that the browser can be configured with more options via Edit->Preferences. A lot of these options disappear in FireFox, and about:config is not the most ideal way of doing things.
• Thunderbird is a news reader as well. That doesn't make it bloated.
• There are also many extensions for Mozilla - Mozilla extensions came before FireFox extensions. The popular ones were 'ported' to FireFox.
• There are quite a few themes available for Mozilla. I like Mostly Crystal and Plastikzilla
• Installing and choosing a theme changes the way that both the browser and email client look.
• It is fast to load, and surf with. Even on a PIII 450 MHz box.
• The integration between browser and email client is second to none. They are the same program after all.
• Assumption: It's memory efficient. Shared memory for displaying the interface, rendering HTML, etc.
• Sidebars are easier to install in the Mozilla Suite. No need to add to bookmarks first.

I was a little annoyed when Fedora Core 3 came with FireFox/Thunderbird instead of the Mozilla Suite. But it was easy enough to find RPMs.

If development of the Mozilla Suite stops - I will switch. Hopefully FF and TB will be more mature by then. I have nothing against FF or TB. At work in the past two weeks I have converted the accountant and the head tester to FF.

I like the Mostly Crystal theme, with small icons of course. Just the right amount of eye candy IMHO - much nicer than the new default theme.

Qute was a great Default theme.

In your opinion. Personally I can't stand it, and it's the first thing I change when I install a new version of any Mozilla program. I prefer Noia and Mostly Crystal for Firefox and Thunderbird, and Pinball for Sunbird. They make much better use of toolbar space than Qute.

...but to make sure that there are alternatives, and to ensure that people have the right to choose. If you love to surf without security, and have no problem with microsoft 0wning your computer, or give a shit about you computer being hijacked by spyware (see if you can find one spyware program for linux) then go ahead, use Microsoft.

I, honestly, deeply, do not give half a rats ass.

The sad thing about Joe User is that he does not want to understand anything, and starts bitching immediatly if things dont work the way he wants them to work. He doesnt want to remember passwords, and much less to turn on the brain for a minute while installing something he just downloaded from the internet. His disgrace is thus of his own making, and I can only hope he gets a tenth of a clue someday (Mind you, I'm not saying he is supposed to be a guru. He just should have basic knowledge about what is going on)

But I don't want me nor anybody to be forced to this way of doing things, and I insist on Joe User having a chance of changing his ways. Viewed this way, linux and OSS have been very successfull.

If the formats used by microsoft were really open, if they didn't insist on being on every computer sold (and thus forcing me to buy what I consider a disaster of a software), and did not seem to have this facist urge of dominating the world and imposing their philosophy on everybody, then nobody would be making a fuzz about this.

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