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Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1 Released
Dave writes "The Mozilla Foundation has just made available interim releases of Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1. Apparently: 'These releases are designed to address early issues found in the new extension manager and automatic upgrade system as well as making changes to the new Firefox theme based on initial feedback.'"
Does anybody know if this will require a clean uninstall first??
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I've upgraded to 0.9.1, and I still get notification that new updates are available.
Anybody else getting this, or have I bodged something?
I'm honestly happy they haven't changed the name again. Trying to get your office to adapt to a new browser is hard enough when they are afraid to use software that doesn't "come in a box" much less when it keeps changing it's name.
good job that theme was ugly
You know IE is in trouble when a minor point release meant to address bugs only makes Slashdot headlines..
Wait, then again, the smell of T-Rex's breath did too.. Never mind.......
Firefox 0.9 has been quite unstable on my (Win) system compared to earlier relases. Hopefully this release addresses some of the issues.
This is not an automated signature. I type this in to the bottom of every message.
If I load up firefox .9 open a few tabs and load sites in them then open up the theme manager and press get new themes then select, download and use the new theme: All the loaded tabs in the previous window become blank and unaccessable
I really cannot congratulate the Mozilla developers and FireFox teams on this immense effort.
I noticed a little 'downloads available' popup, very nice.
I would like to see the tab-wrapping, where tabs do not reduce in size, but wrap onto a new line, that is handy for people who have about 8 tabs open at once (any more and they should resize)
Great work!
I hope this version either includes Adblock as standard or at least makes it easy to install as an extension. Adblock is a major reason to adopt Firefox - and it was a huge step backwards to find that 0.9 didn't support Adblock by default.
You know the irritating "it's the early bird that gets the worm" moral? Just answer them - now really. Who actually wants to get a worm? I'll hang on for ice cream, if you don't mind...
Cheers,
Ian
I guess the new default them released with .9 was pretty unpopular if they are changing it already with .9.1. I, personally, thought it was sleeker then there old default theme. I haven't looked at the new one in .9.1 yet though, but it doesn't really matter since it is so easy to change your theme anyway.
When I upgraded from 0.8 to 0.9 a bunch of things stopped working; the browser would spawn new windows whenever I clicked on a URL regardless of the config settings, popup-blocking was less-reliable, sometimes the download manager wouldn't close itself after a download was complete, and other weirdness. I think I'm going to hold off this time on promptly upgrading because 0.9 was not an improvement over 0.8.
I saw Mozilla's icon along with the word "update", I then wonder if they also added a new feature ? ;)
Trolling using another account since 2005.
I didn't start using Firefox until 0.8. For the most part, I loved it. The only problems I had were occasional page layout issues. Sometimes those required me to fall back on IE, which was a bit of a pain. Usually it had to do with certain web forms with multi-line text boxes that it showed way too small to be useful for writing lots of text.
Then I upgraded to the 0.9rc and something got totally hosed. Some dialog boxes would pop up with no text in them (like the download dialog). It also seemed to hose a few other things as well.
I tried uninstalling it and re-installing, but to no avail. So, for the moment, I'm sticking with IE, which is kind of sad. I mean, I loved some of the things in Firefox like the search plugins that let me search IMDB, dictionaries, and so forth. That's a cool feature. But I don't want to spend a lot of time trying to figure out why things aren't working.
Maybe when 1.0 comes out I'll give it another shot. And hopefully they'll improve the install. I particularly hate the fact that I can't just type in an install directory name, but have to go browse the directory. It defaults to C:\Program Files\Firefox and I just want to change the C: to a D: Why does that have to be so difficult?
They took away my little green blob in Mozilla Poweroyster!!! Although I still get update notifications if I click where it used to be...
I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/mozilla/
http://mozilla.gnusoft.net/
These worked for me. (Posted as AC to avoid whore-accusations. :) )
The old default theme in 9.0 looked very nice. Thsi one looks horrible! Can we revert? Please?
I was really skeptical of the new winstripe theme in Firefox 0.9, the new changes introduced in 0.9.1 however makes it a LOT better in my opinion. I just wish Thunderbird would now work to unify its theme with Firefox.
It's the small things that makes the browser for me, the look and feel. It's hard to explain it in detail. Going back to IE after using Firefox for a long time just doesn't feel right. For example, there's all these little half-second pauses in IE when the controls and scrolling are unresponsive, times when the right-click context menu won't show up when it's still loading. Sometimes the window stops redrawing for a second or two (especially while running Windows Update, but otherwise too) etc. All these little glitches drive me crazy when I have to use IE.
It's like deja vu all over again.
But that's what's great about this community. We complained anyway, and kept complaining. Our voices were heard - we have access to so many of the developers and are a vocal bunch. I'm not sure if the theme is switched back to Qute, which I like, but all I know is that the 0.9 theme just wasn't professional enough to "take over the world".
Good job to all those who helped the project realize that we needed something better. Open-source is not just software - it's social too. Compared to OSS developers, closed developers don't have close to the conduits of communication to see what the users truly want. Especially when we're that passionate about such 'silly' things.
So keep making your voices heard, and don't let autocracy-like decisions harm your favorite project.
Berto
It's interesting to see how when releases of Firefox are made its only to fix minor bugs and add new features.
However, when updates to Internet Explorer are made, its for massive security holes and exploits, of course, this is only after two weeks of Microsoft saying that a patch is not needed and to not click links.
Why are people still using IE6? Back in the old days of the Internet, people weren't interested in using inferior browsers, I wish that same mentality still existed today.
Firefox and Thunderbird are great, however, I switched to Linux and use both applications (Firefox and Thunderbird) and a bunch of other cool Linux apps (Audicity rules!). It's great, because now I don't feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette every time I use my computer, hoping I don't get infested with adware or some random virus everytime I go to a webpage that I haven't been to before.
Errr, that's more or less the whole point of Firefox.
Compared to Mozilla; no Composer, no email client, no IRC client, no spaceship landing dock - JUST the browser.
So yes, of course it doesn't consume as much resources as it's big brother.
...a slightly more advanced version of writing "other side up" on both ends of a box.
Netscape lost it's battle trying to follow IExplorer
(jack-of-all-trades) app scheme. It became bloatware. Nobody cared that it could manage email, instant messages and newsgroups when all we wanted is to browse the damn web.
Then came firefox.
small, cute and F*A*S*T.
Yep, Firefox is fast. Just like Google..whatever
you are going to give, give it pronto.
I did make Firefox my default browser. That is a lot to say after 5 years waiting for a viable alternative. Sure company services DEMAND to see
IExplorer in the client info to support us. But at home...I built the net, there I'M GOD!
- these are not the droids you are looking for -
0.9 was crashing right and left (my first mozilla crashes in months), so I went back to 0.8. 1 crash since then. Sort of dampens the enthusiasm
The world is made by those who show up for the job.
Firefox releases:
Download newest Firefox to fix small known bugs..
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Download or get more information about the latest critical updates for Internet Explorer:
Get the April Cumulative Update for Outlook Express (837009)
Install the Windows Security Updates for April 2004, which include the Outlook Express update.
Install the February Internet Explorer Security Update (832894)
Read the February security bulletin and get the current updates for Internet Explorer and Windows.
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Other Critical Updates
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Stay up-to-date automatically or on your own. After you install, there are a few options to keep your system up-to-date. For Internet Explorer users running Windows XP
Windows automatic updating. Microsoft Windows XP lets you automatically download and install important updates to your computer, such as critical updates, service packs, and technology updates to Internet Explorer. When you connect to the Internet, these updates are downloaded to your computer in the background after you receive an onscreen notification. If you prefer, you can have the updates installed automatically without notification. Find out how to turn automatic updates on or off in Windows XP Professional or in Windows XP Home Edition.
For all Internet Explorer users
Windows Update services. As soon as security updates are released by Microsoft, they are available on Windows Update. When you connect to the Internet, Windows Update scans your system and alerts you via Windows Messenger. You can then download and install the updates.
Internet Explorer Downloads page. Check here regularly for all critical updates, recommended releases, and other beneficial system updates for Internet Explorer.
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-- Real programmers don't comment their code. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand.
You mean 0.9 don't you?
Does anyone know if this was a planned release?
It just seems to follow very neatly on the recent IE/hacked websites business. I wonder if there was some extra pressure to get this out the door at a time when it would be able to cash in and if so, if it's likely to have been tested as well as previous releases.
They should have called this release "9.0 Optimized" just to force AOL to litigate them into yet another name change.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
Did anyone else notice the CSS/Drawing bug on Slashdot where the side panel overlapped the side panel slightly. That bug has been fixed in this release.
:D
I love firefox
Si.
am I missing something or does everyone else have to reinstall things like flash etc whenever they update Firefox.
sorry if plugins are regarded with the same contempt as IE by slashdotters...
FF .9 appears to not run properly on Win95. Now the interesting thing is that Mozilla initially stated that .8 was for 98 and later. However, it turned out to run fine on 95. So the web pages were changed to reflect that.
.9, it just didn't work right. So I went back to .8. But now several versions of Bookmark Link Checker fail to work, i.e., no UI (no buttons or menu choices appear).
.9 would fail, *I would've just kept using .8 and having the Link Checker work!*
This time, it said "98 and later" and I assumed that they'd made the same error again. But when I tried
Wish they hadn't established the ambiguity in the first place. Had I known that
I was afraid they had changed their name again. I'll be happy if they can just keep the same name for the 1.x series. I have a feeling that they will rename it at 1.0 and then again at 2.0.
Anyone know if LiveHTTPHeaders works in the 0.9x releases?
I can't find information on the product info page:
http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/
I rely on it so extensively (doing web app development) that I don't want to mess with my working 0.8 installation unless I know I'll be able to use it in 0.9
Thanks to any who reply.
Thanks in advance for any help/links.
What exactly is wrong with the new theme? From what I've seen the new theme is much cleaner. IMHO of course.
The Anti-Blog
Charamel
I have nothing do do with this, btw, aside from the fact I love this theme.
Screw you all! I'm off to the pub
There should be a close/cancel button. How can the application assume there is a "close" provided by the WM.
...because i'm running ff0.9 w/ adblock right now and it works like a charm.
;just because it isn't on the extensions download site, doesn't mean it doesn work. if you had looked it up, you may have found that many others are using Adblock 0.5 d2 nightly 39 without any problems....
;treehead
"If any part Linux was stolen, then Windows was the biggest heist in history."
I've had zero layout problems with Firefox. Which sites are you refering to? Perhaps it's the page authors who need to fix something?
You have to remember, new Mozilla versions won't magically make broken markup/css work. Do you see the same problem with good ol' Mozilla (Seamonkey)?
zWhat would an EWOULDBLOCK block, if an EWOULDBLOCK could block would? -- me
I can't live without the built in mail and compsoer support. Mozilla mail is the best mail client ever. Firefox is okay but it still feels like a toy and now looks like one. Mozilla feels like a substantial app and acts like one, too. I just wish they'd make the "image block","flash block" and "mask me as IE" toggle buttons default buttons on top of the browser next to "reload" and "back". There's still some schmoes that say "you must have IE to view me". Screw them .. I mean "Oh, (click) I'm IE, let me in .. hee hee".
Had switched to 0.9 from 0.8 only yesterday, just renamed the 0.8 directory to firefox0.8 and extracted the 0.9 tar.
C 13C8 F-54F1-412e-8177-2E411719162D}/chrome :)
/. story about the update, it's still the same :(
And the switch was a breeze, 0.9 imported all my bookmarks and settings from 0.8. The only problem being that the theme I was using earlier isn't available yet for 0.9 officially,
so I just placed the old theme jar file in
~/.mozilla/firefox/default.6mx/extensions/{36
and renamed oldTheme.jar to Qute.jar
It simply works
But after an hour or so after doing this, a little '0' (some icon in my oldTheme's missing) started appearing on firefox's statusbar and when I click it the 'Firefox Update' dialog pops up.
But it says "Firefox was not able to find any available updates.\nFirefox encountered problems when trying to find updates for some items. &Details"
Even after this
I guess I'll have to check where exactly it's connecting to to check for the updates and verify that that address is correct
My favorite filter is:
http://*.amazon.com/images/*/goldbox/*
Since I created it, I haven't seen that annoying, shaking, gold box once!
0.9 ate my bookmarks when I upgraded from 0.8.
I guess I'm a sucker for thinking that 0.9.1 wouldn't eat 'em again.
-Peter
Firebird 0.9 is completely buggy under Mac OS X.
Extensions are loaded one out of 10 times,
lots of UI bugs etc.
I actually had to download the old 0.8 version,
which was the best (again, under Max OS X that
is)
I hope this new version will fix the tons of
bugs...
Between Mozilla, Firefox and thunderbird? I just d/l'd Mozilla last night (I used a very very long time ago, early 90's.
I mod down so you can mod up. Your welcome.
I did that right away. I still get the little icon in the lower-right telling me there are updates available.
DaC
I do just want to say that as of 0.9 Firefox is freakin awesome (I had problems with it before), especially when kitted out with adblock and singlewindow and whatever other extension floats your boat.
I think the abundance of extensions show how many capable and creative developers there are outside the cosy little Linux/Slashdot/sourceforge community. If Firefox only ran on Linux, how many extensions do you think there would be? I'm betting not many. There's a whole world full of Windows/Mac/Whatever developers just waiting to contribute to something cool that runs on their OS. We should all be trying to be as cross-platform as possible, but half of us are writing code which won't even compile if it can't include "linux/sys.h". (BSD? Solaris? Never heard of 'em. Don't even want to.)
When I started this post I thought I'd get modded up for being a fanboy, now I'll probably get modded down for being "anti linux". Cool!
c'mon, put more effort into it than that. geez.
you couldn't toss off a paragraph at least explaining why IE is, was, and will be the best broswer extant? You poseur.
I have 3 machines with different versions of Fire****
;) :p
IMHO, FireBird 0.7 is the best release of FireFox(?!)ever. (I can use it without installing!i.e: carry it on a USB disk and use it in any machine at anytime!!!-handy!)0.8 was okey and 0.9 on my new machine is a bit flaky, I have the same kind of experience like the other users here, I like the Fire*** stuff but the only thing is that: It has to be good at what it does, which unfortunately,at-present, it isn't!
So I end up switching in between IE and Fire(something) on all the 3 machines!!!
Also, does someone know when will 1.0 be out and what will it be called
i live on an alternate planet
0.9.1.
Come on guys. I need 1.0 pronto.
Everyone at home is using IE6 which as we all know has major unpatched holes which have already been exploited by the russian mob.(P.S. do you think that had anything to do with the Akamai DNS outage)
Now this would not be a huge problem, except they're using their credit cards online, passwords etc. I've got some pretty critical stuff on that windows box and I don't want some jerk from Russia or the NSA snooping about my account, which of course on a windows box is everyone's account!
Yesterday I finally decided to get Firefox 0.9(.0 >:|) for the XP computer. I was influenced in no small part by CERT's recommendation. If they've actually noticed other browsers, then something must be VERY wrong. I'm trying to get the family to use it, but you know how it is. "This isn't the proper internet!" . "What happened to the internet?" etc, etc, etc.
But I'm past caring. The fact that MS haven't fixed the problem yet really was the last straw. I'm going to make them give up IE if it kills me. However Firefox on windows is still a little buggy, paticularly with autodissconnect. So Version 1.0 would be nice ASAP.
My reasons for switching are of course manifest, but on top of all of that I have a hunch that MicroSoft are going to drop IE in the near future. I know, I know they've re-constituted the IE team but that doesn't mean the team will work exclusivly on IE. I figure since IE is so full of holes, MS will just prefer to start from scratch, maybe develop new goodies/lock-ins. Tellingly IE still runs on 'number' versions; IE4,IE5,IE6 instead of the usual MS versioning; 95,98,2000,XP,2003 etc. Think about it. Hmm?
Well I'm not waiting around for them to dump the only windows browser I use, so I'm going to make a switch now. Hopefully I can keep the pain to a minimum, but it will mean downloading the ENTIRE Java runtime enviorment on a dialup... I'll see you in 2020.
May the Maths Be with you!
I do love the way it says "this extension will be installed when you restart Firefox", and then, on restarting, Firefox installs the extension and SILENTLY EXITS. No feedback whatsoever - you have to look at the Task Manager to see it's died, and start it again.
Still beats the crap out of IE, though :)
Never mind Spamassassin. When's Spammerassassin coming out?
I have to use Windows at work, and what puts me off Firefox is the slow startup-times. Mozilla used to have QuickLaunch, and the problem was solved, but Firefox doesn't, and it takes an eternity to come up with a browser window. Back in the data, there was kmeleon, which provided a barebones UI on top of Gecko. It was fast, but the latest release is from December. So still with Opera here!
On the linux side I've never been quite happy with a file browser (yes I've tried a whole wack of em). Coming from the windows side I used windows explorer all the time so I wanted something similar. Konquerer is pretty much it but I'd like something lighter to use in say icewm. Yes, I've tried xfe, gfilerunner, velocity, nautalis, endeavour1/2 etc and found them all lacking in one way or another.
People used to say microsoft cheated by having the browser as part of the os but I think it's actually a good idea. Since I already use ff as my default browser I wish someone would write a plugin for a file browser mode similar to konquerer/windows explorer.
Now going way off topic here but is there any way in linux to preload apps and have them never leave swap during a session? I'd like for example ff, xfe, xchat, and a few other apps to load when I login and never leave swap.
I'd prefer the longer startup but then have instant access to my apps that I specify.
Here's a screenshot of winstripe in 0.9.1.
Looks much better than in 0.9 if you ask me. Good Job!
With all this traffic lately (read, slashdot). The forums can barely function anymore and they are a great resource. The mozilla site has been listed on slashdot like 5 times in the past month or so and the poor forum server can not keep up. So if you like the project go over to the site and click that donate button.
Well, let me guess :
:
:
o okies.txt
1) No tabbrowser extensions?
Try here : http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/tbe (it works and I'm using it on 0.9 right now)
2) No Adblock or it doesn't work right?
Try here : http://adblock.mozdev.org/adblock-0.5-dev.xpi (again, it works perfectly on 0.9 and I'm using it)
Finally, if stuff still does not work for you, use this old trick that has saved me a lot of times
Close Firefox.
Rename your profile folder.
Start Firefox again - it will re-create your profile folder. Close it.
Copy over the following files to the new profile folder (overwriting the existing ones)
bookmarks.html
history.dat
formhistory.dat
c
signons.txt
That's it. Ofcourse, you will have to install your extensions all over again, but that does not take much time and it's worth the effort. Every single time I've used this procedure it's worked perfectly and Firefox has gone back to it's usual efficient self.
Hope this helps.
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
Anybody knows why there are no more GTK 1.x builds since 0.9? I need to use that instead of the GTK 2.x build to circumvent some bugs (in connection with the ion2 window manager).
You can see what's stored in the RAM in Mozilla browsers by typing "about:cache?device=memory" into the address bar.
If it's using too much memory, you can try reducing the RAM cache by typing "about:config" into the address bar then look for the key "browser.cache.memory.capacity" and change the value to 1024 or something similar.
More here.
The parent refers to FF 0.9.1 AND Thunderbird 0.7.1 but i can't seem to find the T-Bird release on the web site.
I swear I've seen an extension for that.
Congratulations if you find it.
If you mod this up, your slashdot background will turn into a beautiful sunset!
When I open more than one tab, the whole main display shifts down by a pixel or two. Nothing major but slightly annoying. Anyone else seen this?
I'm still having problems when open a new window by clicking on my quick launch button. The new window fails to work.
Anyone else have this problem?
make up nice pretty boxes for various warez in the open source world, then burn your own copies (with appropriate labels) and put them in there to give away/sell/whatever the various licenses allow. Manuals would be nice, too. You can get cloned everything now, but I haven't seen "boxed" clones yet. Use you leet gimp skills and whatnot.
jiss a thought
I hope they've changed the fact that the "small" icons in the new theme is almost as big as the big ones...
Someone suggested I clear/recreate a profile to fix problems upgrading from 0.8 to 0.9 - I found the link to profile manager just spawned a blank Firefox window (very useful) so I uninstalled all versions and re-installed 0.9.1. Now my PC is completely screwed up and the .url extension is no longer associated with any browser.
I have been recommending Firefox to all my clients but these later versions seem PLAGUED WITH PROBLEMS! I implore the dev team to test the product thoroughly with Win98 - not all of us are running XP.
This version is BUGGY!!!!
I was also disappointed with the theme change, however the new version of the Winstripe theme in this 0.9.1 release is improving. Actually, the home button now resembles the one from Qute, which is kinda ironic? The rest of the buttons in the toolbar are more curved and in lighter (more fresh?) colors.
zWhat would an EWOULDBLOCK block, if an EWOULDBLOCK could block would? -- me
*puts on flame-retardant suit*
Can anyone point me to a summary of the differences between Mozilla, Firefox, and Thunderbird? I'm currently using Mozilla and am interested in finding out whether one of the other two Mozilla-related packages is better-suited to my needs.
Arguing about vi versus Emacs is like arguing whether it's better to make fire by rubbing sticks or banging rocks.
about:config
set image.animation_mode to "none"
I keep waiting for them to change the name to something that makes some reference to Mozilla or Gecko, or to browsing. "Lesszilla" seems appropriate. Or how about Salamander? That's a creature of fire AND a lizard, and the plus side is that there's already a browser called that, giving yet another reason to change names again.
Since they already stepped on toes of OSS developers, why not step on other toes, too?
Call it "Web Explorer" or Explorer for short, or just "Better than Internet Explorer."
Or...maybe they could just absorb the Mozilla name?
Mod me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!
Still no comparison to the refined elegance of Qute, not to mention Qute more nearly matches IE's theme, making converting the average IE user much easier.
I see no changes to the theme, at least not for Mac OS X users, it's still got the same garish icons that showed up inexplicably in 0.9, and the original Pinstripe theme is still not available.
I don't care if the icons have square boxes around them or not, but they should at least make the low-intensity monochrome Safari-style symbols available for people who prefer them.
So we know what we are talking about without having to download firefox:
http://tribbin.no-ip.org/pub/firefox-0.9.1.png
If you mod this up, your slashdot background will turn into a beautiful sunset!
Firefox is much lighter-weight for sure, and that's exactly how it's positioned versus Mozilla. Moz is fuller-featured and more of a suite-based solution, and the other is fast, nimble, and lightweight at the price of some integration points.
Does anyone know if any imporvements to Thunderbird's email import from Outlook have been made in 0.9.1? I'd switch in a second, but at least until 0.9, Thunderbird crashes half way through each time I try to import my old 250,000 emails from Outlook.
Since this recent update, has anyone had any problems connecting to www.foxnews.com? It opens in Exploder, but FireFox can't seem to even detect the server. FoxNews bug or FireFox?
Occasionally, I get this with random other pages (usually pipeline companies).
This color ends in 'urple.'
For example, slashdot.org is at the very bottom of the location bar history even though it's the site I visit most frequently.
AFAIK, Firefox doesn't include a splash screen (yet)?
zWhat would an EWOULDBLOCK block, if an EWOULDBLOCK could block would? -- me
Does anyone know if they fixed the bug where the Venkman Debugger (using either -venkman as a parameter or x-jsd:debugger in the address box) comes up as a blank window under Windows XP?
I've had this bug starting in 0.9...
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damn, still no div scrolling. Back to .8 i go.
No need to compile the kernel today...
I just have to download the new FireFox version of the week!
I feel relieved...
May the source be with you!
I wish I could tell you. Thunderbird can't even seem to find Outlook's file for me. :(
So...why would you not try 0.9.1, especially if 0.9 isn't working for you?
There are a few issues with this package, e.g. you have to run it once as root after the installation.
In general, I also think that the new Winstripe theme in 0.9.1 is much better than the version in 0.9.
But does anybody else think that the icons spacing when using small icons is just way too wide? I think it would look MUCH better if they just tweak the spacing a little bit...
Download my free songs!
I hope that the FireFox team is reading this right now, because I can't stand using their bugtracking system at mozilla.org for the life of me.
I'm running FireFox v0.9.1 under Windows 2003 Enterprise Server, and I'm trying to convince everyone how amazing it is. They're almost sold here, except for the following problem:
Whenever a pop-up alert slides up to alert you that your download is complete, or that there's an update available, clicking on the hyper-linked text does absolutely nothing. When a download is complete, I expect that clicking on the link presented in the pop-up box will take me to the folder where I saved the file.
Please continue to fight the evil Microsoft, as their browser has caused me nothing but headaches here at work.
ActiveX can kiss my ass!
One would think that a "maths freak" would know that version numbers are essentially meaningless. Perhaps you should have said "please fix these bugs" rather than whine (or whinge, given the fact that you use "maths" instead of "math") about the version number.
Anyone ever smell the Mozilla logo's breath?
Back when Mozilla 1.0 was released Microsoft made a remark saying that it was rediculous that it had taken this huge amount of developers so many years to develop Mozilla, when Internet Explorer was developed by only (i don't remember if it was 20 or 100) developers for only such a short period of time. The way things have been going for microsoft and patchreleasing lately, they might want to consider their approach to developing browsers
There isn't much like the scent of a fresh harddisk
This is an open source project, not an off-the-shelf product you're paying for. If you want something done, why don't you join the project.
"Give a man a fish and he will ask for tartar sauce and French fries!"
Did they fix the memory leak in FireFox 0.9 for Linux?
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
I've noticed that on the XP machines that I upgraded from 0.8 to 0.9, those machines now never go into screensaver or powersave modes. Its like somthing makes XP think its still active. Anyone else seen this?
...that's the get-out for brunettes. Put the box on its side.
.. since, it should be auto-redirecting you to http://news.google.com
No matter how hard you try to create an alternative browser you are never going to defeat the Microsoft browser and Active X. As long as sites continue to use Active X applets then Internet Explorer will be the only browser that will correctly display them. You can sit there and say, "Well I just won't visit the sites that don't work with (Insert Favorite Alternative Browser Here) " and thats all well and good, but you are really just limiting yourself just because your hatred to Microsoft. Just give up and give in to the juggernaut. Resistance is Futile...
No spaceship landing dock ??? Move along, nothing to see here.
Firefox always locks up when trying to log into Wikipedia (or similar), has done in 0.9 as well, whereas plain vanilla Mozilla doesn't. So a useless fact I know is that no Firefox developer is also a Wikipedia editor.
Subject says it all.
Sometimes I get that error from Firefox, repeatedly, and have to kill it and restart it to make it go away.
"Provided by the management for your protection."
had a look at the roadmap and in 1.0b Greenlane a planned feature is an ActiveX installer
now hold on just a second... whats going on here? isnt ActiveX the root of most of IE's vulnerabilities?
*dons tinfoil hat*
TIAEAE!
I installed .9.1 when I had .9 without a hitch.
I then went to the Add/Remove Programs "Wizard" and saw that there were .9 and .8 still installed, so I uninstalled both of them.
Now Firefox won't boot. In the task manager, I can see firefox under the processes tab, but not under the applications tab.
Weird..
i also have problems with
and did i mention i hate white backgrounds?
if you want it to be light, do it light grey, or something!
If you want the Tab Browser Extensions to work, use the "Smoke" theme instead of the default one. Kind of ironic that Firefox is standardizing on the OS X inspired theme on all platforms, when that theme is broken on OS X itself...
You know, it probably isn't altogether too difficult to back up the bookmarks, especially since they "were eaten." (Me, I just back them up, wipe out the profile, and start again, but I've upgraded people and it was fine.)
In your profile directory (I'll assume Windows here), which is either c:\documents and settings\{username}\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\profile\{random stuff}\ or c:\Windows\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\profile\{random stuff}\, just copy the bookmarks.html file. That's all there is to it. Make a copy of it somewhere else. You can back it up at regular intervals, even. There are even extensions to do that.
Enjoy!
I recognize people by their sigs. Is that a bad thing?
Has anyone had problems with /. rendering in mozilla.
When the main page comes up with a banner ad on the side of the page it mangles the text in the column on the left and the main stories column?
I thought 0.9.1 might fix this but no dice. Also it worked fine in 0.8.
Arrggg. I actually liked the 0.9 theme, especially the triangular nav icons....
Only change I like in this is the Home icon....
Yay, design by commitee. Time to break out Photoshop.
Your hybrid is not saving the environment. Its purpose is to make you feel good about buying something.
From the <i>The Extension Update and Software Update systems have not yet been well tested. You may experience problems. These will be addressed in the 1.0 beta release. <b>As of the time of release, the update service has not been deployed on update.mozilla.org which means updates will not be available.</b> You may see status notifications for available updates when there are none.</i><br>
I recognize people by their sigs. Is that a bad thing?
I did a clean install of 0.9.1 (didn't see any reason not to). I relinked my flash and java plugins like normal, but when I tried to load up firefox, I got this error.
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INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?
System error?:: Success
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After trying a few other things first, I ended up removing the java plugin link in the plugins directory and now it works.
I upgraded two boxes this morning from 0.6 Thunderbird and 0.8 Firefox without issues. My wife actually loves Firefox and has no desire to use IE now. I haven't regretted dumping Outlook for Thunderbird either.
Just what we need. The Browser with 1000 Names is now going for a record number of versions.
When do we get an actual release?
Not an update, not a test build, and above all not a bloody "release candidate" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean in an open-source context). An actual bloody RELEASE.
Because then, and only then, can we finally start to tell people "It's ready, you can use it now, and we'll no longer use the excuse 'it's only a test build' when it crashes."
Ever since upgrading to 0.9 on Win2k Pro, I've had problems with my extensions (and now, on 0.9.1, with the Extension Manager). I was using only a few extensions on 0.8: AdBlock, NukeAnything and IEView. When I upgraded from 0.8 to 0.9, NukeAnything and IEView broke. I managed to get IEView back by uninstalling and reinstalling it, but doing that didn't help NukeAnything.
After hearing about BugMeNot, I'd decided to install it, and I'd also decided to try the flat bookmark editor. For some reason, I had problems with BugMeNot, but the flat bookmark editor appeared to work just fine.
Today, when I upgraded to 0.9.1, I started having problems with the Extension Manager itself. Because I had the default DOM inspector, the five other extensions were now too big to fit in default window of Extension Manager. Scrolling the window made my CPU utilization spike to 100% and the scrolling is dawg-slow.
As an experiment, I uninstalled all of my extensions, restarted FireFox, reinstalled my extensions and restarted FireFox again. The good news is that NukeAnything is finally working again. The bad news is that the Extension Manager still causes 100% utilization when scrolling.
Why don't you just install a browser that works, like Opera? Really, how can real users ever be expected to work with software that requires you to dick around so much? Christ!
"Would it kill you to put down the toilet seat?" -- Maya Angelou
I do not serve the computer, the computer serves me.
Anyway, I removed the old program dir and re-installed. It seems to have found all my bookmarks and let me choose which ones I wanted. So I grabbed my old 0.8 stuff.
Oh, the extensions work now too. Before I'd click the install link and it would just blink at me. Now it gives me the install dialog and they actually work after a restart (of Thunderbird)!
It is, in fact, windows. I'm stuck with it at work.
-Peter
It's people damn it, not peoples.
People is already plural, you do not add need to add an s.
Wait, while I'm at it, I suppose I should point out that you do not start a sentence with 'and' (at least not that sentence), and you capatalize the first letter of every sentence.
Don't they teach this stuff in grade school anymore?
(Note: This message is not to say my grammar is perfect, I know I make lots of mistakes...)
ND
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I love the browser but hate the website. Has anybody else noticed that the Firefox website and Mozilla's site in general have become very difficult to find information with? It took me 15 or 20 seconds to find the damn release notes for 0.9.1. I hate to be picky, but that is way too long. Then the release notes don't even mention 0.9.1! How am I supposed to decide whether or not to upgrade?
It turns out you can find release notes for 0.9.1, though only from the Mozilla home page, they are almost totally content-free, and they seem to be pretty much just a copy of the main release notes page.
I'm constantly having trouble finding stuff there. This is just one example. Is there some secret site that they maintain that has less marketting spin and is more down-to-business? Hope this doesn't sound like a troll; I'm just a very frustrated user.
--SNSThen it says...
Ok, I give up, which is it? Are you forcing me to save all of my downloads to the desktop, or are you the most customizable browser on the planet??
But wait, there's more...
Um, I'm downloading a browser, not a development tool. What's the deal?
I think I'll stick w/MyIE2.
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...is there any way to put shortcuts to programs on the bookmark bar in Firefox, as in IE? All it does for me is try to download the file.
i installed 0.9.0 over my 0.9.1 installation (via tarball) and now firefox is sllllllllllow to start up. has anyone else noticed this? or is it just my lame hinder?
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I'd never used Firefox until just now and I must say on OS X this really doesn't feel like much of a browser. The new default theme seems to have not made it into this release for the Mac so we're still looking at some pretty shabby icons. I went to the official themes page to try out another theme and upon clicking "install this theme" I was prompted to install a new theme, presented with what I assume is the theme manager window, and then given no further options. The default theme is the only one available.
Maybe I'm just spoiled but in OS X we really do expect our applications to "just work". Safari is elegant, fast, and just works. It's been a long time since I've used Windows and using Firefox was a painfull reminder of how sloppy an application can feel. No offense to the developers. I know this project is worthwhile and I trully wish it the best. I just feel that if you really want to create the next "killer browser" you're going to need to see how it feels to use something that "just works" and emulate that.
The horse is dead. Either fuck it or walk away, but please stop beating it.
It would also be nice to see the junk filter learn a bit quicker before thunderbird 1.0 but perhaps it's just me without clean installs that finds the junk thing never seems to learn my lack of viagrinterest.
The computer serves me, too, but I'm paranoid w.r.t. my bookmarks and things like that.
I recognize people by their sigs. Is that a bad thing?
Some specific problems - the current theme is cute, but why in hell is there a 15 pixel blank space above and below it. Tabbed browsing has been crippled to the point of unusability - yup, I can open a link with a middle mouse click, but I don't have a middle mouse button on half my machines. Half the extensions I'd like to use are not listed as being compatable - I'll be generous and assume that they're just not yet checked - if I felt like being cranky I'd say that the interfaces have been changed enough so extensions will require extra work to run on all the versions of mozilla.
I do hope that the main mozilla will not be scrapped in favor of this good but far too simple minded bastard son.
I'll even recommend firefox - but primarily to those who are too lazy (or stupid) to expend any time in learning/configuring/customizing.
Well, you DO know that version 1 of any software is equivalent to version 3 of Microsoft software. So, IE 6 is really version 2.
Just upgraded and launched 0.9.1 and saw an attempt for Firefox to access h-207-126-111-205-mozilla.sv.meer.net (207.126.111.205) on port 80.
I wonder what information they're collecting.
-Cary
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I've been using firefox as my primary browser for a few weeks and I love it. One feature I miss from Mozilla: Form manager. I hate filling out my name and address every time I want to buy Pokemon cards off the internet. The best implementation I've seen was the Google Toolbar on IE. Do other people miss this feature? Is it there and I am just not seeing it?
P.s. I was kidding about the Pokemon cards. I would never buy cards without first looking at the condition!
If you want to block blinking text (for example) you have to edit a text file! What kind of crap is that? Base Mozilla handles it without problems, as does MSIE. WABOS. It's off my hard drive and good riddance.
No, I'm not going to put in such an obvious suggestion, it is clear they have no clue to REMOVE something that is already there that is so blinkingly obvious.
And gif animations, too, natch.
Do what I did... just put it to all text and shuddap. Does it display webpages correctly? Is it secure? Who cares what the fugging thing looks like.
if you are going to correct someone at least keep your shit straight. jebus.
;) ??
capitalize is not spelled capatalize
Do not teach in they school grammar more any
Does anyone know of a (working) theme to make Firefox look like IE ? I don't want people using IE on our Terminal Server, but they get confused when not only does "The Internet Icon" change, but "The Internet window looks different" as well.
"Focus development efforts on the new standalone applications: the browser currently code-named Firefox, the Mozilla Thunderbird mail/news application, and standalone composer and other apps based on the the new XUL toolkit used by Firefox and Thunderbird. We aim to make Firefox and Thunderbird our premier products."
Sorry to disappoint you, I suppose, but though I figure FF will stick around this does not bode well.
not if Joel is any indication of the MS mindset.
1. Joel on Software - In Defense of Not-Invented-Here Syndrome
2. The Joel on Software Forum - In Defense of Not-Invented-Here
Now if they started a new team like they have with .NET and get an outsider to lead it, then I'd believe it.
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% host update.mozilla.org
update.mozilla.org CNAME rodan.mozilla.org
rodan.mozilla.org A 207.126.111.205
Why are the permissions of all files and directories
777 in the tarball?
"Now Pinky, all we need to do is relabel these bottles to read...
'Wash, Rinse, Repeat...INDEFINITELY!!!!'"
-- Pinky and the Brain
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The Moz team must be on crack, .91 is just terrible.
http://persianews.on.nimp.org/?u=Tar_Baby
i'm still using 0.8 and i intend to stay with that untill at least 1.0, see i dont upgrade my sofware at every little increment if its working fine, but i will get the major upgrades just in case theres something good about them, one exeption: i check the firefox site, and if there are any major security holes(which i REALLY doubt) i will download the update. but otherwise 0.8 is stable for me
i seem to be having problems installing plugins and themes. when i click the "install now" button on either a theme or plugin, nothing happens. i wiped everything and cleaned installed, still no dice. any ideas?
Suchetha
learn from yesterday, plan for tomorrow, party tonight
or one out of three ain't bad
It was a RELEASE CANDIDATE, nice way of saying "beta".
If you don't want crappy software, don't run around installing RC's.
0.9 fixed most of the troubles in rc, and 0.9.1 again most that were left in 0.9.
TORRENT IS HERE according to suprnova.
right now connecting to 8 seeds...
Or does it still boorishly install it the 'documents' drawer?
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
For those of you who can't keep track of the name of this browser from month to month comes a plugin that will randomly generate a new name for the browser...all beginning with fire! Firesomething extension