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Putin wants to clean his image from his FAIL
They made a video a few months ago saying that they shot with the cannons not with a missile.
they even went to such lengths as to have a couple of fighters shoot at targets on the ground to make a documentary of sorts.The aims are double: First and most important is rallying the Russians under Putin's flag and show them that it's all the fault of the Evil NATO. And the second is to try to create an atmosphere of doubt around the investigations giving their loving audience something in the West to delight themselves.
The reason for the first thing is that the whole MH17 issue was seen as a mayor fuck up of Putin's regime, no matter if it were the Russian separatists or the Russian Army themselves who fired the missile: It was an act of utter idiocy and this is something that Putin cannot tolerate. If you start looking like an idiot in front of your own people you may end up in the exile somewhere in the Barbados.
And regarding the second point: Mr Putin has a very eager fan base in the USA and here in Europe. In the USA it's all the teabaggers and conspiracy theorists who will believe anything as long as it makes Obama look bad, no matter what. Most of them believe in the literal intepretation of the Bible anyway.
Here in Europe the fan base is composed of all these "Eurosceptics" parties like UKIP or our dear and beloved Geert Wilders who always has had a warm heart for Mr Putin with his PVV who are making all sort of freakish questions to our Parliament such as a motion to protect peanut butter (Not a fucking joke!). Very interesting that such an incident who would make any nationalistic populist wet his undies hasn't even made Mr Wilders raise a single brow. He has just not even given a signal that the noticed anything... while here in my hometown, Hilversum, it was just last Monday that the examination of the bodies finished and a long funeral caravan went in direction to the towns of the victims. Four of them will remain here. -
Re:I can't read Dutch...
The dutch house of commons, or whatever it should be called in english, is actually a bit short on experience. At the last elections, the average experience of the new house was a mere 3.8 years!
(dutch pdf alert) http://www.tweedekamer.nl/images/artikel_ND_24_juni_118-215706.pdf -
Re:Background information from FFII
The text of the debate (in Dutch)..
in Microsoft Word format! So no Open Source, but (relatively) Open Democracy. -
Link to proceeding of Dutch parliament (in Dutch)
The proceedings of the meeting in parliament can be found here (Word document).
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Vaste commissie voor Economische Zaken (Dutch)
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Incorrect information!
I went on and read the transcript available from the Dutch Parliament website and it appears there have been TWO motions, the first one (motie-Gerkens/Vendrik, 21501-30, nr. 51, ordering the minister to change his vote) was not accepted, the second one (motie-Van Dam c.s. 21501-30, nr. 52, ordering the minister to communicate the parliament's concern and to not support the patent law proposal in the future) was accepted. Sorry to disappoint everyone (including myself), but that's what the transcript says.
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minutes of the parliament discussion
Of course, these can't miss: Minutes of the parliament discussion.
The secretary of state says she doesn't want to ask for a new voting procedure ("it would be quite strange if I would ask for a new voting procedure and abstain from voting myself"), but she does want to send a letter to her colleagues in the other member states.
The supported motion is motion-Van Dam, #52.
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Re:Official record of the vote?
The "uncorrected" version of the parliament's session is here. Of course it's in Dutch, and you have to find the issue between the other topics that have been debated. The discussion starts with this text "Aan de orde is het debat naar aanleiding van een algemeen overleg op 24 juni 2004 over software octrooien.", which is at about page 21.