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Re:Fix the intel graphics bugs yet?
Results have been mixed. I, for one, have page tearing now that I didn't have before (GMA965). Worst case, you can revert to the Intrepid driver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 But before doing that, you might want to look at a troubleshooting guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance And people's descriptions of how UXA (the new/future render) has been working: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting
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Read the release notes (whilst downloading torrent
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904
Boot failures on systems with Intel D945 motherboards
Users have reported slower than normal detection of SATA hard drives on systems with Intel D945 motherboards in Ubuntu 9.04. This may cause the system to drop to a busybox initramfs shell on boot with a "Gave up waiting for root device." error. Wait a minute or two and then exit the initramfs shell by typing 'exit'. Booting should proceed normally. If it doesn't, wait a bit longer and try again. Once the system boots, edit
/boot/grub/menu.lst and add rootdelay=90 to the kernel stanza for your current kernel. (290153)could that be your problem ?
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Re:hibernation and LUKS
"Since in the past it was not possible, just wondering, if hibernation can work with your swap partition encrypted with LUKS/dm-crypt"
Encrypted Root and Swap with LUKS on Ubuntu 6.06
"Aside from that, does swap size have to match physical RAM for hibernation, even if the machine has copious and largely unused amounts of it?"
"if you use hibernate, make it larger than your physical memory"
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Re:Jaunty
Jaunty Jackalope may be the poofiest name for an Ubuntu release yet.
That is probably why that isn't the name of the release...
Correctness FAIL
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Not Sure Whether To Laugh or Cringe...
Heheh. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cringe over the Jonas Brother's being featured on the "tour" slideshow.
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/904features/Genuine indication of real-world interest or too much South Park?
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the trolls are out in force
"Wait wait wait wait... these guys actually CHARGE for Ubunghole?"
There are now three ways for you to get Ubuntu. Just choose the delivery option that works best for you: * Download now - Download the Ubuntu, * Buy on CD or DVD, * Request a free CD .. -
Re:Still Brown?
Well, here I go once again:
That I believe will happen later this year. Shuttleworth announced that for the Karmic Koala (9.10) Ubuntu. No promises for Jaunty.
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Re:Still the same color scheme
That I believe will happen later this year. Shuttleworth announced that for the Karmic Koala (9.10) Ubuntu. No promises for Jaunty.
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What's new - the usefull and the not so usefull
Major changes:
- Improved boot performance. It may just breach 20s on newer systems.
- GNOME 2.26. (I don't think there are many changes to look out for)
- OpenOffice 3.0. Hopfully this has a better interface than 2.4.
- New notification system. Looks good in Shuttleworth's video. This is possibly the biggest improvement in the average user's eyes. I'm looking forward to seeing it in practice, but I have a feeling that they'll actually work well only in Karmic.
- Ext4 Support. It will be the default in Karmic. Filesystem support should affect the average user, so nothing new for the average user here. Many people are still on ext2, and may still be when Karmic comes.
The Jaunty overview should be put on the main page of Ubuntu.com. It really is pointless making that page otherwise. Instead an Ubuntu tour for 9.04 is the main link from the website. That tour really doesn't make Ubuntu sound like a very advanced OS.
Though I haven't upgraded to Jaunty as yet, I don't believe it is something the average user should get excited about. Karmic may.
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What's new - the usefull and the not so usefull
Major changes:
- Improved boot performance. It may just breach 20s on newer systems.
- GNOME 2.26. (I don't think there are many changes to look out for)
- OpenOffice 3.0. Hopfully this has a better interface than 2.4.
- New notification system. Looks good in Shuttleworth's video. This is possibly the biggest improvement in the average user's eyes. I'm looking forward to seeing it in practice, but I have a feeling that they'll actually work well only in Karmic.
- Ext4 Support. It will be the default in Karmic. Filesystem support should affect the average user, so nothing new for the average user here. Many people are still on ext2, and may still be when Karmic comes.
The Jaunty overview should be put on the main page of Ubuntu.com. It really is pointless making that page otherwise. Instead an Ubuntu tour for 9.04 is the main link from the website. That tour really doesn't make Ubuntu sound like a very advanced OS.
Though I haven't upgraded to Jaunty as yet, I don't believe it is something the average user should get excited about. Karmic may.
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Re:Happy Ubuntu-Day, everyone!Get your torrents at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
Is there a torrent anywhere of the netbook remix? I'm downloading that from Canonical UK at the moment and it's not exactly quick. There seem to be torrents for every other release, but not that one. Oversight?
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Re:Still the same color scheme
You're probably referring to Dust, which isn't really a dark theme. There's also the Darkroom theme, but it's been around for a few versions now and it looks like ass.
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Re:Still the same color scheme
Well, try Kubuntu then - refreshing blue style.
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Torrents
Listed towards bottom of page... http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
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Happy Ubuntu-Day, everyone!
I just came from IRC (irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-release-party). It's like the Times Square New Year Party in there.
On the clock at about 1 pm GMT, the Ubuntu website was updated, and the servers at ubuntu.com were immediately IRCdotted.
And now, we're going to Slashdot Ubuntu.com as well!Get your torrents at
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Re:Anyone have a list?
Version list for those and a few other apps: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/allpackages?format=txt.gz
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SIL Graphite Smartfont?
Graphite is an open-source technology, designed for the specific purpose of non-Roman fonts with complex behaviors like contextual shaping, etc.
Unfortunately, the default font rendering toolkit in Linux, Pango is not a smart-font technology.
However, the pango-graphite library supports the smartfont technology if fonts are authored with the appropriate tables.
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Re:Microsoft has an "Australia" problem
Office really is some pretty good stuff. It's the trialware nonsense I have a problem with, and you can't do anything about that in the general sense - that was settled in court. I suppose if other guys can do it, your team has to play that game too. It still bites, but there it is.
Crud. Apache slipped. It's only running on 2/3ds of the busiest million sites, which isn't even close to what I said but it's closer to what I meant to say. And some confused people run Apache on Windows too. Sorry about that. My info wasn't current and I didn't say what I meant to say. And Google's down to 3%. We all know what OS they run. I guess Linux really isn't popular after all. Maybe only 0.3% of people actually use Linux after all.
It won't run on the 915 because Intel dropped support for that and didn't develop WDDM drivers for it.
Like I said, Linux doesn't have a problem compositing on the 915 chipset. At the end of the day if you've got a framebuffer and a 2GHz processor you should be able to stuff frames onto the screen. 800,000,000 cycle per second system bus should be fast enough to get 360,000 pixels to the screen thirty times a second. Have you tried it on some distros? It works. It's not the best, but it does do the fancy effects and it will play video. I'll bet 7 will do it just fine when it's released too. It's just Vista that has this inexplicable problem and that's one of the reasons why it's perceived to be of poor quality.
What would the Linux community do here?
This is WRT Disney's stupid video player. I believe that if you have Ubuntu 8.10 you would click here to install the restricted formats (not to read about how to do it... to actually do it), click here to install the VLC movie player and paste the following line into a terminal to enable decss:
sudo
/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.shTwo minutes, no listening services, no closed source software, and you're done. The instructions are different for different versions, and they're found here. But you didn't want instructions really, you just wanted to hold up the idea that this is hard to do or violates in some way the other things I said. It's neither. I do get that Microsoft can't do it this way for legal reasons. I don't think they can do anything about that stupid movie player that's borked every PC I've ever found it installed on, except not install it by default. I have no idea what hardware that thing works on, but I've never seen it actually play a movie. Which is sort of to the point -- instead of having a computer automatically install a player if it's inserted, you get the end result that inserting a DVD renders your DVD-Rom drive inoperable, your computer unbootable, eliminates your ability to burn a DVD or some other nonsense. So instead of the "Just watch movie" experience you get the "just hose up my computer any time I stick a disc in" experience. That's soooo much better. The whole way video content is hosed up with patents and lawyers and requirements that nobody can include a player that actually works is a load of BS. But that at least is not your fault.
You say "You can't win".
Er... I might have been a little over the top at that point. I do get so excited. It looks like the tide is starting to turn but it's early yet and there's a long campaign ahead. At the end of the day if you have to make your software better to compete, I can live with that. And if you can't, I can live with that too. Either way I'm going to get what I want, so it's all good.
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Release Candidates for alternative architectures
There are Release Candidates for alternative architectures (non-x86/non-AMD64) available as well, such as for
Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5)
Playstation 3
SPARC (including Niagara)
HP PA-RISCUbuntu 9.04 RC
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Server Install CD, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/Kubuntu 9.04 RC
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/Xubuntu 9.04 RC (no SPARC, no PA-RISC version here)
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/As to the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RCs, there's a version for the Low-Power Intel Architecture (which includes the Intel Atom platform), too.
Make sure to utilize the jigdo or torrent methodologies if possible, to save bandwidth.
Walter.
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Release Candidates for alternative architectures
There are Release Candidates for alternative architectures (non-x86/non-AMD64) available as well, such as for
Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5)
Playstation 3
SPARC (including Niagara)
HP PA-RISCUbuntu 9.04 RC
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Server Install CD, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/Kubuntu 9.04 RC
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/Xubuntu 9.04 RC (no SPARC, no PA-RISC version here)
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/As to the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RCs, there's a version for the Low-Power Intel Architecture (which includes the Intel Atom platform), too.
Make sure to utilize the jigdo or torrent methodologies if possible, to save bandwidth.
Walter.
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Release Candidates for alternative architectures
There are Release Candidates for alternative architectures (non-x86/non-AMD64) available as well, such as for
Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5)
Playstation 3
SPARC (including Niagara)
HP PA-RISCUbuntu 9.04 RC
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Server Install CD, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/Kubuntu 9.04 RC
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/Xubuntu 9.04 RC (no SPARC, no PA-RISC version here)
(Desktop CD i.e. Live CD w/ install option, Alternate Install CD)
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/jaunty/rc/As to the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RCs, there's a version for the Low-Power Intel Architecture (which includes the Intel Atom platform), too.
Make sure to utilize the jigdo or torrent methodologies if possible, to save bandwidth.
Walter.
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Re:doesn't even boot
if you have driver problems with the desktop LiveCD... you should use the alternate install CD, it's what it is used for.
From https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
"If your computer is not able to run the standard Desktop installation CD, you can use an Alternate installation CD instead. The Alternate CD also allows more advanced installation options which are not available with the Desktop CD. "
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Re:Intel video drivers suck!
Is this situation now not the same? And the new drivers come with 9.04???
This is the situation with 9.04 and ati. Don't know if this helps you or not; I hope it does.
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Re:upgraded yesterday
Love the new notification system (NotifyOSD)
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Re:The pluses and the minuses from two weeks' usag
Includes the ext4 file system---having upgraded to ext4, I'm really noticing the performance upgrade.
Be warned that the ext4 implementation in the RC is buggy. See Known Issues. It is expected to be fixed in the final release. So, stay will ext3, and upgrade to ext4 once the final release comes out.
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Re:Beauty is still wanting
I think most people will accept that the default theme and interface is not great by any standards. The theme can be changed, though I have some issues with that too. Most of the themes available are copies of Vista and Apple. But I am hoping for an improvement in the coming months.
Karmic Koala promises to have a better theme. Mark Shuttleworth said:
The desktop will have a designer's fingerprints all over it - we're now beginning the serious push to a new look. Brown has served us well but the Koala is considering other options.
Gnome 3.0 (GNOME 2.30 = GNOME 3.0) also looks very interesting, but that isn't coming very soon... I do remember seeing some nice ideas for GNOME 3.0, but can't find the "screenshots" right now.
I agree that the interface is not good (people will disagree) but I am still optimistic for the future.
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ubuntu gets best practices paradigms-as-a-service!
FeatureList-> here
Among the features are "cloud computing" and "turn-key" email servers. *groan*. You guys have been saying "linux needs an advertising dept"...well this is what happens.
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Re:Anyone have a list?
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Re:Meanwhile Linux users everywhere are scratching
I'm pretty sure OpenOffice comes preinstalled on Ubuntu... so there's nothing to figure out.
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Re:How about those hidden linux taxes?
Pretty sure it's been in the repository for a while, now. Did you try
apt-cache search google earth
to see if it's under a silly name like gtkearthgoogle or somesuch?
Ah, here we go.
Not quite perfect, though. I would have sworn i'd seen it in the repositories proper, installed it, and found it didn't work very well with the crappy drivers my ancient radeon graphics card has.
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Just like how software should be...
'Every year, life is getting more and more expensive. Insurance. Rent. Food. And, at the same time, software is getting cheaper and cheaper, sometimes as cheap as a dollar, as we engage in a full speed race to the bottom. This is not going to help developers stay in business. This is not how a healthy industry is maintained.'"
I agree. The race to the bottom for software is not how a healthy industry is maintained. What will we do if software reaches a price point of zero?
There are no clear examples out there of how free software or applications can stay in business.
*rolls eyes*
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Re:they will if they don't want to pay for support
does Ubuntu of 2009 run on the machine of 2003?
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My desktop is still running a Sempron 2400+, which is from 2004. The graphics card is a Radeon 9550, based on the R300 architecture introduced in 2002. This machine is now running the 9.04 beta, even with all eye-candy enabled. To top it all off, a complete install with both Gnome and KDE desktops is less than 5GB of hard disk space.
How much does an Ubuntu upgrade cost?
Nothing.
In terms of money, nothing. Preparing and deploying such an upgrade business-wide might take 40 hours, depending on your requirements.
[C]an you hire somebody to fix bugs in your 2003 version of Ubuntu?
If you want commercial support I'd suggest you look into RHEL, in which case yes you can.
Bad advice. Of course he can hire someone to fix things for him, that's the ultimate power of Open Source (TM). The real question should have been: can you (the GP) hire someone to fix bugs in your 2002 version of Windows?
Can you get "new" copies of your 2003 Ubuntu and install them on new machines?
Yes of course, the real question is why in the world would you want to?
For the sake of uniformity in a business environment, this is not an odd requirement. But if you're already in a business environment, then there should be ready-made deployment images that can be installed on workstations and include the latest (or at least more recent) security fixes.
But as a direct answer: if you had spent the time to request a free install CD, then yes, you would have no problem installing the old version on a new machine. They might even be able to ship you an older version if you request it.
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Re:Mirror anxiety
You are aware that "closest" in this context means "faster", aren't you?
I'm not. The mirror choices are identified by geography, not throughput. If you're saying the geographically closer mirror is faster, I disagree based on the experience of a slow local. If you mean something else, kindly explain.
I've only used Ubuntu since 5.10 and didn't know about apt-spy, so I guess I'm not a power user. And fool that I am I just checked Google and see it's for Debian mirrors, not Ubuntu. Launchpad but 1780 indicates it was briefly included with Dapper, then pulled back out of the repositories for that reason.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-spy/+bug/1780
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=apt-spyWhat was that you were saying about -Nonsense?
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Re:What about deltas?
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Apt-Cacher
I plan to upgrade directly from the Ubuntu servers, but I'm only going to hit their servers once for the three machines I'm upgrading. I use apt-cacher, which stores packages on the local network once they've been downloaded by something on the network, then sends out the cached version when it's requested again. It doesn't help much for the odd day-to-day package installation, but it makes significant upgrades much faster after the first system. You have to configure all of the systems to use the proxy, but it's easy to setup. If you run more than one or two systems, I'd definitely look into it.
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Like this:
This is how it looks in linux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/127979/
IIRC that was the secondary SSD in an eeepc 900. Not sure what the windows variant of this would be.. BSOD? -
Re:And for software engineers?
Here is a similar program for software.
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Re:Which distro?
I've used unetbootin to copy Ubuntu Hardy (latest LTS) onto an SD card when I installed it on my Eee PC. But I've read that some revisions of the Hardy disc won't even boot on an Aspire One when copied this way (or I could spend 0.7 GB of my monthly cap to download a new copy to put on my USB drive). I've read elsewhere that the Ubuntu Netbook Remix installer doesn't try to set up a dual boot, instead wanting to monopolize the whole hard drive. I guess I'll just wait for Jaunty.
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Re:XP forever
They should change the support model for XP. Offer it for free and charge for support.
Hey... I think I've seen that model used somewhere before.... (http://www.ubuntu.com/)
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Re:Honeymoon is over
See the Ubuntu install instructions for the Acer Aspire One here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
Everything works: wi-fi, webcam, cardreaders, etc
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Re:Which distro?
2nd for jaunty -
I've been enjoying the heck out of ubuntu's jaunty netbook remix beta on my eeePC 901. It's due out in final form in just a couple more weeks. It was easy to stick on a thumb drive to test out in 'live' mode, and after installing it on a 12G partition and downloading all kinds of cool goodies I've still got over 7G free.
I think the wifi works better than the stock xandros, but the battery seems to burn a bit quicker.
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Re:Test
In GNOME (or GTK+, I'm not sure), you can get Unicode characters by typing Shift-Ctrl-U, the code, then Space. I found that when I was searching for a way to type ð on a US keyboard.
Here's the page in the Ubuntu Wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey
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Re:UbuntuBSD?
Actually Ubuntu has supported PA-RISC/HPPA for ages:
https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/hppa
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily/current/
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Re:Drop Linux for Solaris?
IcedTea - http://iced-tea.org/wiki/Main_Page
Red Hat is already doing this. IcedTea has been released as a official supported and certified version of Java. Red Hat shipped this with their Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3 operating system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icedtea
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/java-1.6.0-openjdk
http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/openjdk-6-jdk
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/openjdk-6-sourcehttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/java-1.6.0-openjdk
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Re:Surprise?
> I have an uptime of about 6 months on Ubuntu since the last time I rebooted to put an extra hard drive in. I don't have to reboot for updates.
You need to reboot for some linux kernel updates to take effect.
See: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-715-1
Quote: "After a standard system upgrade you need to reboot your computer to effect the necessary changes"
2009-01-29 is less than 6 months ago.
Both my XP and Ubuntu machines have been pretty stable.
Believe me, from a technical POV, Linux isn't really better than Vista or XP in security (in practice only a few write "conficker" worms for Linux, but just imagine what a malware author could do with bash, perl and relatives).
BTW Macs are technically worse in security according to at least one expert ( http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pwn2own-mac-hack,2254-6.html ). And I have reasons to agree
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MSI Wind
I'm very surprised with how complete it is on the MSI Wind U100. The only thing not working right off the bat is the built-in webcam, which I don't use anyway. Also, Nautilus isn't able to connect to my Windows shares when I simply click on them, so I'll have to figure out why. I suspect either Nautilus isn't calling smbclient right or Windows 7's CIFS has compatibility issues with smbclient.
Other than that, suspend works, wireless works, Bluetooth works...and not just works, but works easily with a couple of clicks, which is seldom true for linux distributions. I installed it from a USB flash drive: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/beta/ubuntu-9.04-beta-netbook-remix-i386.img -
Re:Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.1
Sorry to reply to myself but theres a desktop version available for torrent download:
http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/jaunty/desktop/
The DVD is not seeded properly.
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Re:Wrong color desktop? Re:Screenshots
I thought they'd change the brown in 9.10, Karmic Koala. Shuttleworths announcement of KK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html
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Re:Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.1
Sure I will try it this time. I tried Ubuntu 9.04 Alpha AMD64 the good thing it's that the new kernel supports all my hardware and it's a lot faster but I have problems with the nVidia 180 drivers on an integrated GeForce 8200. Not even editing the xorg by hand can get the stuff to display properly.
Err, theres only DVD download option via torrent but since you can update to stable release from beta I think it's worth it.
http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/beta/dvd/
I hope it works fine with unetbootin, installing from USB takes no more than 20 minutes including language updates
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Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question
VirtualBox (deb available via package manager) to create a Windows VM.
Install Windows in that VM.
Download and install your VPN client to your virtual Windows.
Worked for me :-)
Useful link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox. The VirtualBox configuration bit is useful here: as I said, VirtualBox (Open Source Edition) is available in Ubuntu Package Manager, so you don't have to do the apt-get stuff...