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Agreed.

Putting a link on:
http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/

Should be good. If it is obvious enough. Though perhaps a welcome to ubuntu thing like Windows has wouldn't be too bad. I suspect it would be closed with he don't re-open checkbox before someone decides they want to do it.

Some other Windows-like suggestions are not too bad though. Why not have gdebi throw a notification up using libnotify?

Maybe a menu category for tortuials that links to slide shows would work too.

Yes, but if you have anything from Universe/Multiverse it'll still need to access the Internet: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading

Took me a second, but here is the link to donate:
Donate to Ubuntu

Use the metalinks for the speediest possible download experience. All you need is one of the many available metalink compatible download clients.

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.metalink

Use the metalinks for the speediest possible download experience. All you need is one of the many available metalink compatible download clients.

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.metalink

Use the metalinks for the speediest possible download experience. All you need is one of the many available metalink compatible download clients.

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.metalink

Use the metalinks for the speediest possible download experience. All you need is one of the many available metalink compatible download clients.

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.metalink

Not condescending, but annoyed. And when someone is really clueless I am very patient, but you post on Slashdot and run a server, so I assume you are interested in computers and capable of reading docs. This is the, I dunno, 5th Ubuntu release I witness, and time after time people don't do the logical thing. I have spent countless hours on the mailing list to help them out, when all they would have needed to do is:

http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+8.04+release or, god beware, go to http://www.ubuntu.com/ and follow the release announcement.

I was a newbie too, but I tried to do my homework before asking other people for help. It's called courtesy.

No it shouldn't. Debian is still the foundation upon which Ubuntu and many other distributions are built. If Debian would cease to exist, it would greatly disrupt the development of many distributions, including Ubuntu. Also, Debian is still widely used on its own, especially on servers.

For more information see Ubuntu and Debian

Intrepid Ibex

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804

Read the fucking release notes and you might just learn something. Sheesh. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804

Ubuntu 8.04 includes Firefox 3.0 beta 5. This was felt to be the best option despite its pre-release status, in light of the extended support lifetime of Ubuntu 8.04 and the importance and complexity of Firefox security updates. Further release candidates and the final release may be considered for post-release updates.

I did it 3 days ago using adept as recommended:

$ kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel"

The upgrade completed without any problems

Has anyone here experience with this one? I'd like to give it a try.

Ubuntu Studio is "a multimedia creation flavor of Ubuntu." It includes applications for audio and video creation and for graphic work. It also has the Linux kernel optimized for low latency.

http://ubuntustudio.org/
Download (not accessible at the moment):
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/hardy/release
Torrent mirror:
MD5: http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Hardy-Torrents/MD5SUMS
i386: http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Hardy-Torrents/ubuntustudio-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
AMD64: http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Hardy-Torrents/ubuntustudio-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent

Direct links to the metalinks (As Seen on /.) - these list all the mirrors, checksums, and other info and are used by download apps.

To use them, try DownThemAll! (Firefox extension), aria2 (cross platform, command line), KGet (in KDE4), Speed Download (OS X), GetRight (Windows), Retriever (cross platform, Java) or about 15 other download programs.

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.metalink

Direct links to the metalinks (As Seen on /.) - these list all the mirrors, checksums, and other info and are used by download apps.

To use them, try DownThemAll! (Firefox extension), aria2 (cross platform, command line), KGet (in KDE4), Speed Download (OS X), GetRight (Windows), Retriever (cross platform, Java) or about 15 other download programs.

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.metalink

Direct links to the metalinks (As Seen on /.) - these list all the mirrors, checksums, and other info and are used by download apps.

To use them, try DownThemAll! (Firefox extension), aria2 (cross platform, command line), KGet (in KDE4), Speed Download (OS X), GetRight (Windows), Retriever (cross platform, Java) or about 15 other download programs.

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.metalink

Direct links to the metalinks (As Seen on /.) - these list all the mirrors, checksums, and other info and are used by download apps.

To use them, try DownThemAll! (Firefox extension), aria2 (cross platform, command line), KGet (in KDE4), Speed Download (OS X), GetRight (Windows), Retriever (cross platform, Java) or about 15 other download programs.

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.metalink

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4153415/Ubuntu_8.04_Hardy_Heron_-_Desktop_i386.4153415.TPB.torrent http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://banner.uits.indiana.edu/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso ----- Features: http://techwatch.reviewk.com/2008/04/ubuntu-hardy-heron-8-04-2/

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4153415/Ubuntu_8.04_Hardy_Heron_-_Desktop_i386.4153415.TPB.torrent http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://banner.uits.indiana.edu/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso ----- Features: http://techwatch.reviewk.com/2008/04/ubuntu-hardy-heron-8-04-2/

I found a nice page for downloading all the .torrent files that doesn't seem to be overwhelmed yet. It even lists torrents for the 8.04 DVD and PowerPC versions!
http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/

Instead of doing the bittorrent dance, I started having the disc shipped to me. You can order whatever you need from https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ - they do a great job of getting the discs shipped, free of charge, in a lot less time than what they indicate on the site.

I ask for 25 discs at a time, put a pile of them on my desk at work, and they're gone in a week. Here, have a Linux, it's free.

Here's one: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent

Server is under heavy load, so use BitTorrent: i386 : http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent amd64 : http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent

Server is under heavy load, so use BitTorrent: i386 : http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent amd64 : http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent

The server was overloaded; it's back up now, but in case it becomes unstable again... Cached lists of mirrors (for all versions):

        * http://www.ubuntu.com.nyud.net/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
        * http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com%2Fgetubuntu%2Fdownloadmirrors

Torrent for 8.04 desktop version i386 ISO:

        * http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
        * http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4153415/Ubuntu_8.04_Hardy_Heron_-_Desktop_i386.4153415.TPB.torrent
            (Piratebay mirror because official tracker is unstable)

Direct links to 8.04 desktop version i386 ISOs:

        * http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://banner.uits.indiana.edu/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso

The server was overloaded; it's back up now, but in case it becomes unstable again... Cached lists of mirrors (for all versions):

        * http://www.ubuntu.com.nyud.net/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
        * http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com%2Fgetubuntu%2Fdownloadmirrors

Torrent for 8.04 desktop version i386 ISO:

        * http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
        * http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4153415/Ubuntu_8.04_Hardy_Heron_-_Desktop_i386.4153415.TPB.torrent
            (Piratebay mirror because official tracker is unstable)

Direct links to 8.04 desktop version i386 ISOs:

        * http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://banner.uits.indiana.edu/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
        * http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso

No, windows and Linux are both OS platforms and are, for the purposes of development, equally open (otherwise no one could write software for either windows or Linux)... Apple begs to differ...

You missed the point. I'm not talking about competition in developing applications for the operating system. I'm talking about developing a replacement operating system which can take the place of Windows. Apple has not and will never do that because they cannot develop an operating system which can run Quicken, Taxcut and Halo 3 (as long as these continue to be based on Microsoft's proprietary Win32/.NET Windows architectures), no matter how furiously their fanboys beg to differ on their behalf. Consumer choice between products in the free market assumes that they are have strengths and weaknesses but are generally interchangeable. When you have to exchange not only the product, but your spending habits,

The false assumption here is that unless you choose open source you are choosing intentional bugs.

Is this is a straw-man or simply careless reading? I didn't and wouldn't claim that all commercial software is sabotaged. A correct reading leads to "commercial open source software cannot have intentionally placed bugs," which has no relation to "commercial software must have intentionally placed bugs." I didn't even go so far as to claim Microsoft (or your precious Apple) does this, only pointing out that others allege it and the exploring dynamics of such actions.

In addition you are assuming that there is some community dedicated to nothing but scrutinizing the source code of open source software as there is in a proprietary company (like apple).

Open source does have many people providing quality control. In important places (the kernel, major applications, etc) there are people on a full-time salary doing this just like at proprietary vendors. You must be reading the Microsoft FUD. Please note how artfully fear-mongering stats are taken from reliable sources and placed at the top of the references, while security related references are almost exclusively written by Microsoft's employees and tucked in at the bottom. This has little to do with reality, and proprietary QA personnel don't find the important

point of fact, Red-hat does not risk it's reputation since they are a support provider not the OS provider per-se...

This is perhaps the strangest thing you've said, not only because it's factually wrong in several places, but because it ignores the reality of human behavior. It's also way off topic, but I'll correct you anyway because it was a poor attempt at addressing the main point.

Software vendors' customers often have a minimal understanding of what they are "buying." You suggest to be knowledgeable and yet still don't even use the right term. How well do you think some Vice President understands copyright law and those crazy EULA's? RedHat actually used to sell boxed copies for under $100, which I'm fairly certain did not include a support contract. Now that downloading ISO's is easy, perhaps it's not economic to manufacture and ship discs of plastic containing software that can be downloaded freely.

Your understanding of RedHat's role is lacking. RH certainly is not the sole (and perhaps not even a major)

Though I love gaming, each month seems to bring me closer and closer to blowing away all three of my windows boxes and replacing them with a distro of Ubuntu or something similar. My lack of knowledge is the one thing keeping that at bay for now.

In case you didn't already know, the next version of Ubuntu comes out Thursday this week (April 24th 2008). Though I would recommend waiting until the initial rush is over and you can actually connect to one of the mirrors (this may take a few days to a week), this new version includes a Windows installer which allows you to install (and uninstall, if you so desire) Ubuntu without having to worry about partitions and other aspects of OS installation you might be uncomfortable with. Here's a link to where it's mentioned on the Ubuntu site. :-)

Hey, cool. It's got a lot of neat new stuff it should have had since, oh, 2003. Now if only it worked, that would be nice.

I guess we'll have to wait a year for Windows 7 or just get our fix now.

Things are changing though; but Vista has been as much a change from XP under the hood as 98 -> 2000 migration was in my opinion.

Your perspective may be skewed. The rest of us see it as more of a Win98 -> WinME type of migration.

The thing about dominance on the desktop is that linux is going to win it by doing an end around and using Microsoft's strategy of incompatibility work against them.

Already in this thread there are the usual Microsoft shills whining about how Ubuntu doesn't yet work with their laptop's wireless card. What they don't see is that every time they point out a piece of hardware that doesn't work in Linux it's a win for Linux now. The device manufacturer will open up the interface for development or the line of product will die because people want choice.

When the Linux in your pocket and Linux in your handbag devices just sync better with Linux on your desktop and work seamlessly with Linux on the server then the game is over. The network is the platform.

Ubuntu.

When Ubuntu Hardy Heron is released, please check the torrent tracker statistics and record the overall transferred data (in GB) vs time (say every 5 minutes).

I did this for Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon and was seeing somewhere in the vicinity of 8gbps of bandwidth being used by the Ubuntu torrents for a while after the release. Talking to a member of the official release engineering team at Ubuntu, I was informed that HTTP/FTP mirrors were taking loads in excess of 5gbps as well.

Remember that these are only ISO images (good for new installations) and don't count the amount of bandwidth used for upgrading existing systems. And remember all the other Linux distributions as well.

They've got server versions of ubuntu and there are in fact products tailored for them -- see the Zimbra email thingamajig, which runs on RedHat, SuSE or ubuntu (it'll run on CentOS or debian but will complain that they're not Red Hat or Ubuntu). Ubuntu's been around since 2004, which in the OSS/linux world is goddamned eternity, so I don't see what you're talking about vis-a-vis "short lived" or "fail to target the enterprise".

Driver support for the Intel 945.
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-020683.htm
I found graphics drivers for linux for most flavors of the 945.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)
You have to use ndiswrapper to get it working because Broadcom doesn't provide docs or drivers. Some distros seem to have a patch that does have this card working right now. I have heard Mepis is one of them.

Of course the original post holds true. Complain to the hardware manufacture. Intel has provided drivers for there hardware. Most distros have it included and Intel has it available on it's website.

Wrong, for commercial support in ubuntu you need to pay for it http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid if you're talking about home users, then compare with Fedora. No home users will buy support from ubuntu because they can just get it for free

What the hell are you talking about?

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition

I also would hate to see every halfwit using linux/gnu. All we need is a big enough marketshare for the corporate slime to see a financial benefit in it to produce stuff for both winbows and linux/gnu.

Sorry to break into your regularly scheduled adverstisement but...

And the best part about Ubuntu is the LoCo teams (that stands for Local Community) will do exactly what you're selling...
for free!
Find your Ubuntu Loco Team here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList

I still can't quite understand why I am more willing to apologize here, when it was my computer that got hosed for following the standard instructions...

Dude, you used a free operating system that says NO WARRANTY everywhere. If you needed hand-holding you should have purchased a support contract.

Webserver? Ubuntu is a DESKTOP system. It doesn't have server install wizards. If you want advanced wizards, then you need a full featured Linux distribution like Mandriva or Suse.

Webserver? Ubuntu is a DESKTOP system. It doesn't have server install wizards. If you want advanced wizards, then you need a full featured Linux distribution like Mandriva or Suse.