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Ubuntu 8.04 Released
Nate2 writes "The Hardy Heron has taken flight: it's the second LTS (Long Term Support) release of the world's most popular distro. New features include the Wubi Windows installer and Firefox 3 beta 5. Grab a copy here, and check out Linux Format's overview of the release."
I seem to be stuck at 98%....
The server was overloaded; it's back up now, but in case it becomes unstable again... Cached lists of mirrors (for all versions):
* http://www.ubuntu.com.nyud.net/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
* http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com%2Fgetubuntu%2Fdownloadmirrors
Torrent for 8.04 desktop version i386 ISO:
* http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
* http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4153415/Ubuntu_8.04_Hardy_Heron_-_Desktop_i386.4153415.TPB.torrent
(Piratebay mirror because official tracker is unstable)
Direct links to 8.04 desktop version i386 ISOs:
* http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
* http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
* http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
* http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
* http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
* http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
* http://banner.uits.indiana.edu/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
* http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
Its as if thousands of bittorrent peers suddenly started connecting at once.
If sharing a song makes you a pirate, what do I have to share to be a ninja?
Don't forget Kubuntu!
There are some of us who don't (or kan't) run Gnome...
Summation 2
little surprise there!
Its as if the whole world is at it! And I chose the most obscure download site! :) Guess everyone did that! :(
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TechWatch
Could someone please link directly to torrent?
I keep forgetting my place. Jesus is for losers. Why do I still play to the crowd?
(Note that I don't use Ubuntu or plan to use it any time in the very near future, so I really have no idea how easy it'd be to swap things out.)
The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
Instead of D/L the ISO i've opted for the web update. Gonna take another hour to d/l the updates so it's probably just as quick as D/L via torrent, burning to CD then running the upgrade... :D
Laters Sol "Have you found the secrets of the universe? Asked Zebade "I'm sure I left them here somewhere"
It's beta. It's also widely unsupported right now and doesn't work with several plug-ins I love to use. I do like some of the built in features of it, and use it on several of my systems, but I don't see it as belonging in an OS Release.
Server is under heavy load, so use BitTorrent: i386 : http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent amd64 : http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
Sweet, maybe now I can adjust my volume.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
The Boston University Linux Users Group is providing a .torrent-only mirror that should be able to be easily reached regardless of traffic. It's often difficult to fight through the hordes around the other servers just to get a torrent file, so we felt this would be convenient. We also have a copy of the MD5SUMS if you need it.
ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
Contains the alternate, desktop, and server torrents for both i386 and amd64.
Hope this helps.
http://lug.mtu.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ We're doing fine so far, would like to see some more load though!
What an excellent decision it was to release with this bug not being addressed
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/188226
I am very happy that there has been another LTS release (and on my birthday)! I've been running the beta and it has been very stable other than than the firefox alpha (which seems to work fine on my debian lenny box).
I am dissapointed that abiword 2.6 didn't make the cut, though. It is a great release, however the timing of things didn't work out. You can get some context on what happened at one of the developer's blog and the bug report. Seems there was a little tension involved. Also, here are the release notes for Abiword.
Being an LTS release, I wonder if they can get it backported? I don't think that usually happens with that drastic of an upgrade - is it just security updates that get backported? However, the Abiword team will not be supporting 2.4.x for the next 3 years so I hope that something along those lines is possible.
Oh well, off to compiling it myself. :)
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a yo-yo.-Enoch Root
http://193.147.168.122/ubuntu/
Please, always check MD5SUMS
I downloaded both the Ubuntu and KUbuntu Release Candidates this past week. Is there a list of differences somewhere or is it fairly safe to assume that the RC is identical to the real release?
My video card didn't work, sound didn't work, and, apparently, I use stale software with has been deprecated.
Either way, here's a review of my adventures:
http://thomer.com/howtos/hardy_heron.html
Here's a summary of the woes described on that web page:
1) to get nvidia to work for a GeForce 8600 GTS (and in my case TwinView, for two displays), you need to download a beta driver straight from nvidia,
2) to get sound to work you need to run a completely undocumented /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset,
3) Firefox 3 (beta) is cool and all, but it does not support various plugins so I downgraded to firefox-2, and
4) xmms, which is ugly but worked just fine, has been deprecated and its replacement, audacious segfaults and freezes.
5) I got annoyed by trackerd hosing my disk and my CPU, so I removed it.
Hope this helps.
I am a long-time user of Ubuntu and I am -very- disappointed with how Canonical's volunteers handled the announcement of this release. Not 20 -minutes- before the official announcement was made, anyone asking whether or not the ISO on the main page was indeed the final release (which it was) was banned. Anyone who posted a link to the ISO, the .torrent, or even the MD5SUM of any of the files was banned.
20 minutes after the release? The channel operators were soliciting people to Digg up the link to the torrents they had just BANNED people from the channel for even talking about.
This is NOT the way to treat your prospective users!
Instead of doing the bittorrent dance, I started having the disc shipped to me. You can order whatever you need from https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ - they do a great job of getting the discs shipped, free of charge, in a lot less time than what they indicate on the site.
I ask for 25 discs at a time, put a pile of them on my desk at work, and they're gone in a week. Here, have a Linux, it's free.
I'm running XP at home. I've got two large hard drives, not in a RAID. Were I to download this Ubuntu release, would it be easy to set up dual-booting? What's the best way to do that, assuming I don't want to upset by Windows install in any way? Would I need to use FAT32 on a drive to make it visible to both OSs? Is there a robust method to at least read NTFS in Linux? Would it make sense to install on a USB memory stick or an external hard drive?
"I zero-index my hamsters" - Willtor (147206)
If they are putting this beta into an LTS then I must admit I don't understand why they can't put KDE 4.0.3 in.
Well more than curious. It looks pretty slick.
And I am really not asking to be flamed here, but can someone tell me why I might want to move from Windows to Ubuntu? Either for home (World of Warcraft has to run on it) or from work?
(Puts on asbestos boxers)
Guns are for wimps... Use a crossbow.. this way you can pin them to their chair when you go postal.
I found a nice page for downloading all the .torrent files that doesn't seem to be overwhelmed yet. It even lists torrents for the 8.04 DVD and PowerPC versions!
http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
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So from the review there are several new features here that might be of use:
So it sounds like a couple of useful new features and probably more the review did not cover. opefully I'll give it a test run tonight.
No, it's Hairy Hadron, which is actually a new kind of subatomic particle predicted by stringy-hair theory. It's the particle that makes hippies and geeks smell the way they do. It can also give you telapathetic powers. People will know you're pathetic before you even walk into the room.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
I've tried installing the last 3 versions of Ubuntu on my HP Pavilion 6000. None of them work with the wireless out of the box.
I was told this version has much more support for the Pavilions, but sadly it was the same thing again.
No wireless.
I don't want to take the time to figure out how to get it to work, so I'll be staying with XP for now.
Which sucks, because I really want to get off Windows.
Fancy that... an open source team releases a product on time, as promised, and delivers the feature sets they promised.. meanwhile, the leading closed source competitor.....
I'm really looking forward to upgrading my Linux box to this new release, but judging by the posts, I shall wait a few days for the downloads to die down.
This is my sig.
I did a network update to the RC and my network stopped working. I have posted messaged on the forums and still no joy.
I am using an Nforce4 motherboard so I would think that there might be a lot of cranky people out there if it isn't fixed.
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
>> it's the second LTS (Long Term Support) release of the world's most popular distro.
The world's most popular distribution? No, that can't be right. I've never used it.
I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04;
I like the new compiz-fusion plugins it includes.
Includes 3d windows for the cube (Where the windows stick off of the walls), this new "Shelf" plugin, that makes it able to shrink the size of windows to a thumbnail where you can dock them to the side of your desktop or wherever. They also have an "Error notification" plugin which is neat- Gives you an alert whenever any program has an error, and you can specify how serious an error has to be before it notifies you. The notification is just a little popup on your notification area.
In the new Gnome, I really really like the new VNC client. It has a "bookmark" section to the side, and it has tabs. Tabs for VNC! I love it. The other really useful thing it has is a "VNC scanner", which scans computers on the domain for VNC ports to connect to, and gives you a nice list. Besides that, there isn't really much else great about the new Gnome- They try to keep things "simple" (A.K.A., not much customization to be done.)
I've had a couple problems so far with Ubuntu 8.04, though. The first noticeable problem was that only one window on my desktop had a border. I.E, if I switched from one window to another, the window I switched to would lose it's border and title bar, and the new window would get borders and a title bar. I fixed this by installing Xgl, apparently I didn't have it.
The other issue is these odd black dots.. They consist of maybe four pixels making a block. There's about 10 of them in a row on my screen, even when I do the cube and other things, they stay on top of everything. Even in my log in window. I have no idea what's causing it.
And, finally, my sound isn't working now. But I see a lot of people are having this problem.
Oh, and one more con- The "Unlock" button for network manager is really annoying. I'm not sure why it was needed, maybe someone can enlighten me?
Slashdot should start using Ubuntu's symbol instead of Debian's. Oh and, I'm downloading via the torrent right now.
This bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/188226 causes synergy to sputter along unless its started under sudo or you recompiled your kernel with a different scheduler enabled.
Yes, the tracker is overloaded, but that's why we have DHT!
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I've been running Hardy right up from Alpha 2 until the RC. It's a quality release. Only issue I've had so far is that the sound on my laptop (Vostro 1700, uses Intel HDA) is almost impossible to hear unless the sound is up all the way. I've read a few things to try and get it fixed, but that's not too high priority right now.
The installation is clean, it did a fantastic job auto-detecting my 3D hardware and setting up Compiz on both laptop and desktop (Intel X3100 and GeForce FX5500 respectively), and it's easy enough for grandma to use.
Kudos to the Ubuntu team.
Proudly supporting the Libertarian Party.
What are the risks or limitations of running KDE4?
Some quick notes on wubi, since this is Slashdot and it's probably the neatest part of the new release. Wubi has existed for a while but this is the first ubuntu that includes it as part of the distro.
Wubi permits you to install and dork around with ubuntu from within Windows. It has a comfy GUI front-end that creates a virtual partition within a Windows file, sets up the boot manager, downloads Ubuntu and installs it within the virtual partition. Ubuntu then boots and mounts the virtual partition within the Win32 file system. The installed Ubuntu can see the old Win32 file system and optionally read and write it. Windows sees the virtual partitions as a couple large files. And Wubi avoids making any partition changes to the target disk. All pretty cool actually, and significantly lowers the barriers to test-driving Ubuntu. See http://wubi-installer.org/ .
Easy dual-booting with no upsetting windows? Try Wubi. http://wubi-installer.org/ This is the official windows installer for Ubuntu 8.04. It is linked off the (now hard to reach) ubuntu download page. Ubuntu 8.04 supports NTFS read and write.
Does it still have buggy sound support for the sound hardware on the eeePC? I was rather annoyed by it for the last beta release and I can't really see them having fixed it in such a short time which is sad as it otherwise ran quite well...
I got an HTTP 503 error ("Service Temporarily Unavailable"). Guess the Slashdot Effect strikes again!
:)
Btw I wasn't downloading it, I like my current Debian setup better
I didn't think the house band in Hell would play this badly.
I tried to install the latest RC maybe a week and a half ago... I couldn't
For one, I couldn't install it at first. The GUI installer was coming up monochrome green, and you couldn't see half the buttons. That was after the first few attempts where X would fail to start period. It's not like I have new bleeding edge stuff I was trying to put it in, just an Athlon64 3200+, ATI 1300Pro, 500GB PATA w/windows XP, and a 160GB SATA where Ubuntu was *going* to go. Other distro's work and install fine (except one where GRUB was being a bitch, maybe because of the two different hard drives?)
On the tracker, I see four DVD ISOs each for x86 and x64 with the same name and different hashes, and slightly different sizes. Anyone know what gives?
As a side note (knowing full well that this isn't a support forum!), can anyone give me any hints on how to get Evolution working with an Exchange server on Kubuntu 8.04 beta?
I put in my username (with domain) and OWA URL like so:
FOO\First.Last
https://webmail.blah.com/exchange
then I click "Authenticate", enter my password, and I get an error dialog:
"Evolution Error: Could not configure Exchange account because an unknown error occurred. Check the URL, username, and password, and try again."
I know I typed the URL and my username and password correctly.
I'm running Gnome 2.22.1 (Kubuntu 8.04 beta, "out of the box", with all current updates applied). Where does Evolution put its log files? Maybe I can find something useful there...
Absurdity: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion. -- Ambrose Bierce
You can DL your favorite distro here : ftp://ftp.daupheus.com/UBUNTU/
What's new in the server edition? All the articles I've seen so far are desktop-centric.
Does anyone here with a D-Link wireless PCI card have any networking issues with this release? I know that when the previous one came out, I was having some issues getting Ubuntu to recognize my wireless card... WDA-2320, if I'm remembering correctly.
Living With a Nerd
...does it run Linux?
This space up for sale.
I see lots of replies about ISO mirrors and download sites, but has anyone tried to perform a distribution upgrade from 7.10 yet? Any news on that? I assumed I'd give that a shot maybe tomorrow when server loads aren't quite as busy...
This seems to indicate that it WON'T work, but that information is a month old. Anyone have a better experience?
That would, say, let me run ubuntu off of a live CD on a Windows machine but still be able store some stuff on the Windows machine? Like, if I have a company notebook, and I want to run Linux on the train, could I do that... without putting Linux on it?
This is my sig.
Is...was....err....was that a joke?
That could be either a joke or someone who is just underinformed. Being as torrents get the most attention (in the mainstream, at least) for illegal traffic, it shouldn't surprise anyone to encounter people who actually believe that all torrent traffic is illegal.
And of course, there are copyrights involved with Ubuntu Linux. However most of them are more than a little bit more permissive than those on "Enter Sandman".
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Nooooooooooooooooooo!...
.iso from an unofficial source by all means, but please, for the love of all things unixy, check them against the official md5sums and not ones you get from the same source that you get the .iso or .torrent from. Official PGP signatures, would be even better.
Download the
Disclaimer: By no means am I inferring anything about The Boston University Linux Users Group, whom I respect and trust just as much as anyone else I don't know and have never met.
This is very sound advice - our storage of the MD5SUMS is mostly for our own internal purposes when we start burning the images to disk. No need to trust us!
* See point #2
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I started testing 8.04 at alpha 3 and have tested every version since. I am sad to say that that every version I have tested locks up solid after 5 to 10 minutes. The bug has been filed and is being experience by quite a few people on a lot of different hardware.
I have put 7.10 back on my laptop and I will not be updating to 8.04 until the lock up bug is reported as being fixed.
Of course, it is working just fine on a lot of other hardware... So, do your self a favor and burn a live CD and test it for a few hours before you do the final upgrade and do a very careful and complete back up before you upgrade.
This is the first time I have had *any* problems with stability of an Ubuntu release and I have been using it for several years now and I have tested a lot of alpha and beta releases. I hope this is the last time I have any trouble with an Ubuntu release.
Stonewolf
Fancy that... an open source team releases a product on time, as promised, and delivers the feature sets they promised.. meanwhile, the leading closed source competitor.....
When projects are on time they are usually either better defined and managed or features were dropped. Proprietary or open source has nothing to do with it.
I've been on time with proprietary products. Agree on a set of features when starting, sort them with respect to importance, work only on that list in order. When the great new ideas pop up during development they go to the end of the list, even the company president's and the client's. If the client pushed we asked which agreed upon features would they like to drop or if they preferred the delivery date could be moved back. In other words changes have a cost. A year long development project with six programmers needed only 3 weeks of light overtime to deliver the agreed upon functionality on time. Well, mostly agreed upon, some things didn't work out as well as expected (Mr Design meet Mr Reality) and alternatives had to be used. There were regular deliverables during development so that quality control was in full swing for most of the development. The downside, if we were late we would have been missing the least important agreed upon features.
Well, I suppose a pissed off client was another potential downside. Was the client a frustrated with the "changes have a cost" attitude? Yes, but only to a small degree since we explained why we were doing this and to do otherwise would put their very hard deadline at risk. In the end they viewed us as professional and honest.
We started working on the great new ideas that went to the end of the list as soon as 1.0 shipped, while 2.0 was being discussed with the client. 2.0 would retain the same look and feel and was adding only new functionality. We finished the list two months later.
Has anyone here experience with this one? I'd like to give it a try.
Ubuntu Studio is "a multimedia creation flavor of Ubuntu." It includes applications for audio and video creation and for graphic work. It also has the Linux kernel optimized for low latency.
http://ubuntustudio.org/
Download (not accessible at the moment):
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/hardy/release
Torrent mirror:
MD5: http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Hardy-Torrents/MD5SUMS
i386: http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Hardy-Torrents/ubuntustudio-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
AMD64: http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Hardy-Torrents/ubuntustudio-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent
Very appropriate Hardy Heron being released during the Holiday of Freedom. I can see Linus holding his staff and two tablets with Kernel source inscribed on them singing in a Charleton Heston voice to Bill Gates: "Let my people go!"
Woopty Doo Basil, what does it all mean?!
No problems thus far.
For all Kubuntu fans, the fine print is that the Kubuntu team very unfortunately decided to drop LTS status for Kubuntu 8.04. This really disappoints me, because KDE 4 is not really usable yet (OK, it sucks) and I was really looking forward to 3 years of LTS for the KDE 3.5 series, because KDE 4 looks like it may need that long to get as good as 3.5.x, if it ever does. This has me starting to look around for my next desktop environment. Xubuntu is the frontrunner at this point.
Hell, I just upgraded to 7.04 last week.
Seriously.
(Box had been un-networked for 8 months).
I'll wait a month or so; never install day 0... wait until a few more zeros are in the number.
If this version does a better jobs at power management, since gusty gibbon, It has reduced my battery life by 25% compare to Dapple Drake.
Intrepid Ibex
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
My utorrent over wine says: Upload speed: 19.3 MB/s... The interesting thing though, is that my server's disk utilization is pure zero! Looks like utorrent or the kernel has cached the whole image and serves it...
The mirror list on ubuntu.com is out-of-date; some are down. Use the mirrors listed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors -- they're checked hourly.
If you are a fearful penguin you can google ahead on how to deal with potential issues with some proprietary packages, but those issues are few and getting fewer as more users take the leap.
Also be aware that upgrading an existing 32-bit install to amd64 requires a fresh install (although the most suicidal uptime freaks will find a way...). Old /home can still be reused as usual, unless you loaded it up with 32-bit binaries of course.
May the .torrent be with you!
Should invading one's peaceful neighbours be opposed, or rewarded with trade deals?
Have downloaded and installed. Exploring the cool new features, and must say, I am impressed. Detailed report in a while! http://techwatch.reviewk.com/2008/04/ubuntu-hardy-heron-8-04-2/
If you're having trouble with the updater because archive.ubuntu.com is down, you'll want to use a mirror.
/etc/hosts file:
Found no way of changing this nicely, so I added this line to my
194.169.254.10 archive.ubuntu.com
That's for gb.ubuntu.com, you might want to make it local.
Good luck.
Generally, Hairy... I mean Hardy Heron seems like a good release. There are two issues I have come across...
First, a couple of packages messed up the upgrade, so I ended up doing a fresh install.
Second, Firefox 3 Beta has been an issue for me because some of the extensions I need haven't yet been upgraded.
I updated the machines I really want to be ready some two days ago, and I won't touch apt-get for probably another two days.
So in the meantime, I'm actually getting some work done!
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
My work PC doesn't have a torrent client so I'm forced to wait until I head home for the evening, but what kind of disk space requirements are we looking at for Ubuntu? I noticed in the linked article that it can be uninstalled from the Windows add/remove tool, which looks cute, and of course on my 1/2 terabyte primary hard drive on the home desktop it's no problem at all. But for my laptop, which is rocking a mere 80 gigs and has much work-related stuff on it, how much pr0n must I delete if I want to revel in dual-booting goodness?
"Linux doesn't exist. Everyone knows Linux is an unlicensed version of Unix"- Kieren O'Shaughnessy
The native Gnome music organiser is Rhythmbox. If you do literally want a GTK Amarok clone, there's one called Exaile (currently beta).
What's purple and commutes? An Abelian grape.
http://davang.org/ubuntu
all the *ubuntu torrents and respective MD5s
http://davang.org/ubuntu
This is perfect timing. I accidentally wiped my Linux partition last night.
Enough of Anti-virals, Spyware removers etc.,
What's purple and commutes? An Abelian grape.
"inebriated iguana"
Scott Carr
What's purple and commutes? An Abelian grape.
Odd. I have an HP nx7400 which has successfully run 6.06, 7.04, and 7.10, in both 32 bit and 64 bit flavors. Never had a problem with the wireless, and it has always worked out of the box. That's an Intel chipset though, which makes it easier. Network Manager worked fine. I've also installed it on other laptops here at work, all of which are Dell or HP, and haven't run into problems.
When I've done this on Broadcom-based wireless, I've only ever had to click the little thing that says "Use this restricted driver?" or whatever. A few seconds later and wireless is ready.
In all installs, the only problem I have ever had out of the box was widescreen Intel video chipsets. For some reason, they sometimes don't work until you run a utility called 915resolution which patches the video bios to widescreen resolutions (in my case, 1680x1050). However, I tried the 8.04 beta about a week ago on another HP machine identical to my own and it actually worked at the correct resolution, so I didn't have to screw around with it.
When I say everything else works out of the box, I mean it -- at least since 7.04. On every machine I've thrown at it, everything has worked flawlessly. Video with 3D acceleration on ATI, nvidia, and Intel (though I have not tried this on the 8000 series nvidia cards), sound, wireless, Bluetooth (which I don't use, but it works), the whole bit.
I've never had that happen under Windows -- it's always a game of visiting individual manufacturer's sites to find fiddly little drivers which install a bunch of useless garbage alongside themselves, just to get something like the ethernet controller working. Absolutely idiotic. I dread Windows installs these days.
When I started typing this post, I also started the x86 desktop install of 8.04 on a Dell 600m. It's already done installing (took about fifteen minutes) and everything is already working, except that Broadcom chip but... I just clicked the Restricted Driver thing and now I'm wireless.
Why anyone suffers through Windows nonsense anymore is truly beyond me.
mirrorshades radio -- darkwave, industrial, futurepop, ebm.
One tip: if you use any kind of even slightly unusual X setup (such as dual monitors with Xinerama), back up your old xorg.conf and generate a fresh one with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" before you upgrade. When you've upgraded, use new X.org 7.3 tools like xrandr to do whatever it is you're aiming for.
What's purple and commutes? An Abelian grape.
Of course the tracker keeps falling over. I keep going from a few thousand seeders and leechers to a few hundred and back. I am seeding like crazy, however.
Use the metalinks for the speediest possible download experience. All you need is one of the many available metalink compatible download clients.
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.metalink
I'll say 1 thing in favor of geeks/nerds: @ least they're not total f'ing fakes, & actually KNOW SOMETHING OF WORTH (that makes them employeable anywhere, & actually DOING production work vs. b.s meetings & such (mgt. = overpaid babysitters)). The "beautiful people" are some of the BIGGEST F'ING SCUM I've ever met in my life, & largely are scumbags, thieves, & heartless + classless trash. I personally don't judge folks by the width of their wallets, but rather that of their hearts & honesty/class. I don't know about you.
Lots of bug fixes, including the partition editor. I could not install on 2 systems with the RC, but could on a daily point build.
So now I can install Ubuntu with Wine?
This is my first look at Hardy Heron. You can go through this and leave your comments. http://madhusudancs.info/hardy-firstlook
I judge people based on whether or not they get their panties in a knot when someone tells an obviously self-deprecating joke.
You fail.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
On my laptop with an NVidia Geforce 8600M GT, the upgrade from Kubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 went without a hitch. Everything worked out of the box.
Of course, YMMV.
The desktop 386 iso at that site checks out using an md5 from an official mirror.
Damn those pesky terrorists
There are a few reasons why Ubuntu is pretty great. First it is Free as in beer. Second it is a living, thriving software project, and probably always will be, because it is free as in Open Source. There is virtually no EOL on a big open source project like this. Beyond those reasons are:
Open Office
Firefox
Pidgin
Brasero
Compiz
Mupen+
TVtime
I recommend trying it out on a second machine, or installing it via wubi.
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2008 - Year of the Linux Desktop!
This space up for sale.
Its about damn time!
im updating now...
Took me a second, but here is the link to donate:
Donate to Ubuntu
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Parent post is brilliant. MOD UP!
If you are a desktop user who is using wired networking or *very light* wireless on a very popular card -- just uninstall Firefox 3 (how the fuck do they go out with a buggy, unstable, can't print version of Firefox) and replace it with Firefox 2 -- then you're fine.
However, if you are a laptop user who wants to use wireless (say on a corporate or university laptop) -- forget it. I own two laptops with popular internal wireless chipsets (one Dell and one IBM), and neither run properly in WPA(2) with PEAP in various combos (TKIP, GTC, etc). This is a complete showstopper.
NetworkManager is completely broke. So you end up having to try wicd. If wicd doesn't work, then you are stuck running wpa_supplicant from init.d or ifup/down scripts. And at that point, you'll probably realize that the wext driver isn't good enough and then have to resort to ndiswrapper -- and that probably won't work, either. TERRIBLE. Welp... there goes all of your laptop users.
From what I've read, supposedly these things (buggy wext driver, broken NetworkManager) are going to be worked out in the 8.10 timeframe.
Desktop users download and rejoice -- laptop users (who use more than brain-dead WEP), stick with your XP installs until later.
...run WOW out of the box? ...work with my Brother and Canon printers? ...make at least easier to set these up?
/whine (or is that WINE?)
Honestly, I love the look and feel of Ubuntu, but my productivity (and non-productivity) goes static whenever I want to use it for these things.
Hate XP all you want, but at least it works.
I installed earlier today apparently right before the deluge of downloads. Not fast enough however to get in before their repository servers started getting nailed.
If you get it now, it runs fine, installed fine, looks kinda cool, but you will have a long wait trying to install anything beyond default packages. For instance I needed to use a Java app so I started to install the super easy Sun Java 6 installer. Super easy, but the server is dying so I ended up reading over half of the Storm worm infiltration PDF before it was done.
Other than that, it's worth the upgrade, just trying to warn about the repository servers getting slammed in the face...which is almost a good thing if it indicates the size of the user base on this go round. Bad that it wasn't load balanced better. Then again, why build a stadium to host a game twice a year. Not sure how I feel about that one. Need to beef 'em up eventually if they grow as fast as they hope they will.
Ubuntu is great, they take bleeding edge debian software and bang it together so it doesn't hurt too much, my only problems are sound stopping inexplicably (ctrl alt backspace fixes this) and strangely nvidia drivers wont let me set the right refresh rate for my monitor when I enable tv-out, which means I am swapping between 2 xorg.conf's to watch movies on the telly or run smooth lcd monitor.
I am doing assignments though, running matlab, open office, gimp, firefox 3 and everything very nicely! Everyone should try it, and if you have any doubts or fears use http://wubi-installer.org/ to install from WITHIN windows!
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Xen networking is completely broken in Hardy Heron. Joy ;)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/218126
SILENCE, plastic man
I downloaded xubuntu-alternate via bittorrent (finding a site which had a working seed was a problem...finally found it in the UK). After burning the CD, I booted up and installed over my old (broken) 7.10. It seemed to take a long time to install. Even with 784mb of ram 9I know it's not huge these dats0 on my Celeron M @ 1.7ghz, it seemed to be spinning its wheels a lot..times when there was no disk access (either cd or hd). I remember it took a particularly long time configuring the modules. I also had a problem getting DHCP info from my AP, but that very well could be the retarded dhcp servers that many of these APs use. after giving myself a static ip, it went just fine.
I had been worried that I'd have to do wierd tinkering to get the uncommon screen dimensions on my dell Inspiron 700m to work properly. But no, it worked right from the start.
Let me say that it's quite fast! snappy browser and desktop performance, much better than my older ubuntu 7.x and much faster than windows XP on the same system. That's even before I move from the generic kernel to a 686 one.
now, let me see how well everything else works.
Some wierd stuff...web browsing seems to work fine, but when trying to get stuff from the repository...it seems to lag. Not dns, as that lookup completes pretty fast, and once the connection starts it seems to go well, but there's a lag. I tries switching from US to CA servers to see if that would help, it didn't. Are other people seeing this? Is this just load because of the new release? I am wondering if they've got dns lookup turned on for connecting clients on their servers, because that's the only time I've seen this behavior.
> Linux Format
Yeah, that's always been my answer, too.
*WOOOSH*
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Oh man, I'm so offended, a whiny AC thinks I'm PLASTIC. Well YOU are totally DUCTILE, you dork.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
this May linux force is coming ...fedora 9 and ubuntu 8.04 !!! wat more can a linux fan ask for ??! !!
Will both of you stop before you get bent out of shape?
for spanish-speaking users who want instructions for upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04, leaving a link here http://fabianperez.blogspot.com/2008/04/actualizar-ubuntu-804-lts-hardy-heron.html
...both Player and Server spits the dummy when you try and install. Bad news....
Add the price of all the software you have to buy for Windows to make it functional and safe.
I bet $1000 is not terribly off the mark.
Oh yeah, and then there is the freedom of your data, which becomes yours again.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
I have just got finished making the update, I have to say, I'm impressed. I reckon I'm going to enjoy the new apps that they've included, I also like how they've made a point of emphasizing the Avahi protocol. I'm also really liking the new audio configuration panel. The interface is much more enjoyable too. Cooler default wallpaper and boot-options/screen. The transition to Brasero and FF v.3 - seem commendable. Even though I had to no problems with Serp'. I guess I'll have to give Brasero a go. :)
My experience as someone who ran Ubuntu full time for a few months in 2006, and then gave up on it. I'm trying it again on a small partition, dual-booting with XP.
Problems I noticed:
* Fonts still look terrible by default. I had to install MS core fonts, clear the font cache (or login/logout), and then change the anti-aliasing method to get them to look as good as in Windows.
* The idea of shipping with Firefox beta was questionable. I notice things that are broken in it compared to FF 2.x, like the Set Image as Background feature
* Sound volume seems extremely loud by default for me, which is bad because of the startup sound
* There should be a list of Compiz keyboard shortcuts. Clicking the Help button on the visual effects page in the system prefs does nothing
* There should be more advice on partition resizing. I found that if I didn't defrag my NTFS partition before resizing, it took a heck of a long time.
* A minor thing, but the maximized button icon in GNOME seems "odd" to me, it isn't easy to recognize that the window is maximized for some reason.
That said, it does feel faster than XP, and it's certainly a lot prettier (except for the fonts issue).