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Re:Expansive syntax, and the work required....
Well, the real solution actually already exists, it's just so friggin' complicated that you need an army of consultants to install, configure and maintain it. It's called a 'product data manager'.
;) See these guys for lots of examples.The key is to take the best of features of a PDM (good search and relationship management capabilities), combined with the best features of a source code control system (simple storage methods, low overhead), and combine those with an easy-to-use-yet-powerful search system like Google Desktop Search. Oh, make all of this transparent to applications. And make it really really maintainable without database experts.
And people wonder why Microsoft canned WinFS.
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Re:The guy...Data storage is another area that can be improved, with Object Databases (really just fancy relational databases with their own access methods) showing how it's possible to store something more complex than integers and varchars. First off, databases can store something more complex than integers and varchars. Secondly, what you're describing is the heart and soul of a Product Data Managment (PDM) or Document Management system, such as those available from companies like UGS. The database contains pointers to the raw data, with the database storing all of the metadata. Special daemons retrieve the raw data from various vault servers.
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Re:Vote with your dollars.
Dude, UGS NX came out for linux a year ago
CATIA may not be on linux yet (it is almost certain that Dassault have a version they just haven't released though), but PTS Pro/Engineer has been for quite a while.
CASCADE is still going and works fine on linux, though that's more of a toolkit. Bentley Microstation has always been available for linux, though you wouldn't know it from their website.
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Re:How about some user interface?
You must be new to CAD. You will soon outgrow silly children's toys such as AutoCad and 3D Studio Max. If you only knew the power of the dark side.
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Nothing newI don't see anything new here. A bunch of enterprise CAD programs including NX (formerly Unigraphics) and Pro/E have similar design/FEA capabilities. There are typically many options for optimizing certain aspects of the design be it strength in a certain area, weight, etc. I haven't used them, but I'm sure higher-end versions of AutoCAD and the like have similar capabilities.
Maybe I missed something, but I didn't read anything in that article that isn't already done in industry every day.
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List of alternativesI'd have to agree that most alternatives that run on Linux aren't ready yet. But I was surprised to learn Pro/E is availible. http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html
UGS is also porting software. http://www.ugs.com/about_us/press/press.shtml?id=
4 367Personally, I'd like to see SolidWorks ported. Yes, I ditched Acad for solid modelers 12 years ago and would be very reluctant to go back.
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Re:When you get right down to it ...A few forces in the corporate world coupled with the evolution of network computing will work in favor of Linux.
- True collaboration is hard to achieve if folks have files in "My Documents"...Not to mention the fear on the part of legal staff and executive management of ever being able to enforce Information Lifecycle/Document Retention policies.
- Many business apps are Thin Client to Web Server to App Server to DB/Filestore. The client is a commodity that is a very low common denominator (why would executive budgeting for thousands of workstations want to meet the RAM/Disk/OS License requirements of XP let alone Longhorn for this use case.
- Documents are black holes for information and the board room is starting (barely) to realize that. A 2000 page requirement specification is useless. A product such as Teamcenter Requirements makes the information useful TcR
These and other factors may help move Linux from the raised floor area onto the desktop...but likely in a blade / web appliance form factor with the storage centrally managed.
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Re:Business App != Office
Catia Doesn't run on Linux, though I think Unigraphics does.
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Re:Missing the Point
Just a little side note here:
We did have to change our IG software. We were using Performer, now we use a third party developed renderer. For years our the company that developed our renderer has supported both Linux and Windows. Now they only support rendering on Windows. They still support the API for Linux though.
But I'll bet the company that developed your renderer now has their hands in Microsoft's back pocket.
For years, Unigraphics (currently owned by EDS), was available on RISC-based Unix workstations only. They wanted to develop the stuff for Intel processors, so the first Intel platform they ported to was Solaris x86. They had a fully-working Linux port in progress. Then they started doing a Windows port. The first Windows port required Hummingbird Exceed (or other X server) to be running on the NT machine. Well, Microsoft jumped in, gave them free developers and free development tools and other free resources to make their Windows port into a logo-compliant application. They immediately dropped the Linux port, and rumours have it that they are dropping the Solaris x86 port. If it weren't for their existing customer base, they'd be dropping their Unix ports too.
Much the same story for CATIA and SDRC (now EDS, coincidentally?) I-DEAS.
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Re:Shameless plugThis is a seperate shameless plug, but once again might prove usefull to you...
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I am currently co-op-ing at the parent company, http://www.ugs.com, so add salt to taste.
</disclaimer>You might consider IMAN. It is a multi-platform, version and project control system for large projects. I know it will be binary safe because most of what it was built to handle (CAD part files) are binary. It has a graphical interface, and sounds good from what I've seen. It also has a web portal for off-site workers or remote companion businesses. It also stands a chance of being overkill for your particular problem...
Best of luck!