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The electoral college, in its current incarnation actually keeps the electoral process slightly more fair to individual states. Look at it in terms of the world series (it's just a game anyways, right?). Now lets say that instead of having a best of seven series, we just totalled the scores from the seven games and whoever had the most points would win the series. In that case, if there was one blowout game (think Texas in this election... maybe) that team could automatically win. With the best of seven series, both teams have to work to win games, not just score points.

Now, the election is like a 50 (plus...) game series played simultaneously with weighted scores per game, but the metaphor still holds to a degree. Of course, the only candidate to visit all fifty states would be Ralph Nader, but... Anyhow, the electoral college may not seem fair at first blush, and indeed wasn't in the early colonies, but now it does require candidates to look at winning states not just voters within states, keeping states rights more of a priority overall... Something that U.S. citizens should appreciate, not denigrate. (this whole rant was based on some article in Discover the world of science a while back... )

Even if you still can't see the logic behind the electoral college you should vote in your local and state elections, which do not suffer from such a confusing institution, regardless of the presidential side. Also, at the NYC super-rally, Nader brought up the idea of a binding 'none of the above' slot for national elections... cool idea, huh?

Nader's latest article discusses a lot of issues close to our (dark) hearts, including privacy regulation for e-commerce business, and patents on 1-click shopping.

Here's a great (although long) quote:

In looking at the Internet, one might also ask what has the administration done to support the open-source movement, either through procurement policies (very little), funding for open-source software (not something the administration talks about) or protecting free software developers from software patents and anticompetitive practices targeted at the free-software movement?

In the area of corporate welfare, tax breaks and subsidies for big corporations, there is no end to what this administration will do for the e-commerce industry.

But when it comes to supporting an astonishing citizen movement that is protecting the Internet from Microsoft and other would-be monopolies and providing huge benefits to the economy, the administration is completely inarticulate.

JMC

Vote for who you like, just vote.

If you aren't yet registered, you can go do that here.

Your vote does matter.

I'm voting for Ralph Nader, even though he won't "win" the election. However, your vote will win an important smaller victory! If Ralph Nader receives >= 5% of the popular vote, the Green Party will qualify for federal campaign money for the 2004 election. The Reform Party received $12 million in federal campaign money this year because Ross Perot won enough popular votes in the previous elections. Even if the Green Party isn't perfect, having a louder alternative voice (especially in the televised debates!) is crucial for breaking our "Republicrat" deadlock.

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Check out Ralph Nader if corporate interests seem a little too strong. VoteNader.org.

Check out this funny piece of we b animation by Tom Tomorrow while you're at it :-)

I bought the 7.0 Professional package yesterday and updated my laptop from 6.4. Seems to be working very well so far. USB support seems quite a bit better, but I can't say for sure yet until I get to play with the printer this weekend - but the mouse support seems decent.

There are some wacky things that SuSE does - so if you are a RH person, they may throw you. They sure did me. Config files are moved all over the place, for instance, and I still have not become 100% used to where they are now, but for the most part I like what SuSE did to them.


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How stupid of me!

So, we are talking about something real - even though it is not. Much like the hologram of a magnifying glass in front of a bunch of medicine bottles - you move your phyiscal being around and the image that you see throught the magifying glass is what you would see if it was there.

Hmmm. That makes a lot more sense to me now!

Okay - I take back everything I said. I want one of these!


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Okay - this sounds cool, and it is impressive. But I don't see how this can help make drugs. I understand being able to visualize what the compound you are trying to make will look like, but can't that be done with cheaper off the shelf equipment already? What benifit would this have?

As far as I can see this is going to be part of two possible markets - video games and science museums. The video game aspect is, well, pretty obvious - the science museum thing would be cool because you could use it to display exhibit A today and five minutes later you could be all ready to use it on exhibit B - Like maybe have a holographic model of a machine or something.

I dunno - it is cool, but awful silly at the same time.


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A few weeks ago here on /., there was a story showing three of the clips from this presentation. I ended up seaching a while before I found the whole thing, but I tell ya what, it was worth it.

I am not sure how much of all of the stuff in the videos were actually in use in '68, such as the database and the way you could jump from level to level, but I have a feeling that everything presented was just wowing the folks who were in the auditorium that day.

Looking back at the presentation, everything done there is still done today, with the exception of that weird ass 5 key keyboard Doug was using. Ya got email with message threads, relational databases, the mouse, multi media video, networking to a far away computer... I find something new each time I watch it.

But, whoever it was that decided NOT to make the computer go "bbeep! buzz! honk!" every time it started computing something - that is the person who's hand I want to shake! That would drive me nuts after a while - come to think of it, I think I would rather listen to that all day than the Win9x startup music.


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I have had DSL at home since February and have had a total of 1 hour downtime. My dad has not been so lucky - it took a while for SW Bell to get things right. Then there was the little matter of them putting my dad's DSL line on my bill - we live 10 miles apart. Then they screwed up my bill a few times and it took forever to get that straightened out.

At work I have DSL.NET as a provider with a 1.2 Mbit SDSL line. It works slick, though that too was a nightmare. Took over a week for them to finally get our IPs into their DNS servers.

My only real gripe with the actual DSL service is that SW Bell is using PPPoE in some cases, and DHCP in others. PPPoE seems to really suck big time, and it is the main cause of my dad not being online for hours at a time because the PPPoE stuff on SWB's end goes down or his PPPoE client (NT) blows up. It's kindof a nightmare at times.
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That's the same attitude voiced in a Simpson's episode -- where both G.Bush and B.Clinton are really squid-like aliens. When unmasked by Homer...the crowd is shocked...and someone yells, "We could vote for a 3rd party candidate!"

One of the aliens says "Go ahead...throw your vote away!"

I'm proud to have "thrown away" my vote in the last two presidential elections...the three presidential elections before those had me voting for people I simply didn't and couldn't agree with.

As for Nader, he gets some consideration from me...he has saved many lives and is honest in his convictions. Personally, I agree more with the libertarian point of view so they will more likely get my vote this time round.

Either way, if you don't vote in all elections -- especially in non-presidential years -- you are throwing your vote away.

I was there, too. I was most impressed by what I perceived as the vast amounts of TRUTH coming out of the speakers' mouths.

And everyone was shouting:

Let Ralph Debate!
Let Ralph Debate!
Let Ralph Debate!

To find the real meat in modern politics as in modern everything. This article looks to me like the work of someone who's just skimmed the surface. You should take a look at Ralph Nader's candidacy (www.votenader.org). 1) He's well poised to shake up the process 2) He's the only one who's blowing the whistle on how indistinguishable the two parties have become 3) He's completely funded by private individuals (like us). 4) Most important, (IMHO) he's showing us all what a political candidacy can look like in the 21st century, rather than the 18th. Is Nader going to win this election? No, of course not. But he's already way ahead of Buchanan in the polls and I think he has a clue about the future.
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I'll bet / with my Net / I can get / those things yet.

Gates has stated that he hopes the upcoming Presidential elections will put someone in office more friendly to the company.

Gates will be fuckity-fuck-fucked if Nader gets into office. Vote Anti-corporation

In some places in this country, you go and you pay taxes on food and on books, but you don't pay taxes on what you buy on the Internet. Even though the small businesses in this country are the ones that support the charity and fiber of the community. It's really not fair.

In a letter widely distributed on the Internet, Moore asked the majority of Americans -- the non voters -- to rebel by casting their votes for Nader. "Friends, we are losing our democratic control over our country - Corporate America has merged and morphed itself to such an extent that just a handful of companies now call the shots. They own Congress. They own us," Moore wrote in the letter addressed to non voters.

• One vote DOES count: The Republocrats took over the House in '94 by winning 19 districts with under 1,000 votes each. Assuming the total number is 19,000, that translates to one vote per school district in the US.
• Non-voters are the largest political force in America: Consider that the predictions say that only 46-49% of those eligible to vote actually do. That, my friends, makes for a plurality. The non-voters actually construe more than half the electorate and are their voices heard? The shortwave broadcast I heard suggested that if every person who was to vote Nader called two of their friends and converted them from the Legions of Morons (the republocrats and Democritans), then Nader would be the Big Dog.
• To get involved costs something, but not getting involved costs more. Moore talked about how he wanted to get on a school board to throw out his principal, who he felt was unfair. He was a lazy bastard and called the board of elections, which told him: 1. Even though he was barely 18, he could run. 2. He only needed 25 signatures to get on the ballot. 3. They would mail him the petition. He succeeded in terminating the principal AND the assistant principal.
• Nader has done more quantitative good than both major-party candidates combined. Airbags and the NHTSA are thanks to Ralph Nader's work against GM. We are not as exposed to radioactive matter thanks to Nader.

I don't know if you heard about the Australian guy back in the 50's when the Olympics were in OZ: A 17 year old kid made a fake torch out of a stick and a tin can, put on his torch carrier outfit, and started running. The police saw him, and escorted him to city hall, where the Mayor was waiting. Mayor finishes up his speech, everyone starts to leave, then the real torch arrives.

It is stuff like this that can make the games in your town fun! Ya got two years to work on a prank - I sure would if they were here where I am.

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I don't even care about the olympics anymore. It's just one giant fucking commercial financed by telecommunications companies and sportswear. It's pathetic and it makes me sick.

"Now we cut live to coverage of the 500meter whatchawawiggy. ....trailia takes the gold! Please stay tuned for 25 minutes of minutes of Nike commercials."

I was going to vote Libertarian, but given Ralph Nader's anti-corporate stance, I'll probably vote for him.

Something the c|net article does not mention, and I wish more attention would be paid to it, is the use of the CC software to track user viewing habits in addition to barcodes.

The program sits there and listens to the audio feed of your TV. When it hears the CC sound, it takes you to the website, just like scanning a barcode does.

Now, take a look at the software - there thing uses user profiles (if you have them set up). Each person who uses the computer is encouraged to have thier own profile. So, when Mom sits down and scans stuff out of Family Circle, or watches LifetimeTV, or scans a bag of Gold Medal Flour - bingo! DC now knows this stuff. Dad watches ESPN, drinks Budweiser, and eats Guy's Potato Chips. Little Billy watches Nick Jr., drinks Hi-C, and enjoys Little Debbie sacky cakes. Now all those ads you see in print or on TV can be even MORE targeted. You simply change part of the CC-TV code to reflect the channel that is broadcasting it and you can watch the audience reaction to putting a commercial right at the highlight of the show - do they turn the channel? Do they just sit there and watch the commercials?

This is so orwellian in it's nature that I am happier now than ever that I don't run Windows and am not fooled into running CC's software.

Better yet, let's do this hypothetical situation: Pretend that I am a political candidate for the Silly Party. We put on our national convention. At the start of the broadcast, Joe Commentator comes on and says, "Turn on your Cue Cat software folks! The Silly Party will be sending you to various parts of the Silly Party platform during the presentation tonight."

Instantly, my minions at Silly Party HQ can start watching the audience reaction of the home viewers. Since I am using a teleprompter to give my lecture to the masses, it can be instantly changed and edited. The minions see me getting too many of the "angry white male" audience tuning away and returning to Monday Night Nitro? Simply insert political rhetoric aimed at them. Whoops! Now the latino population is tuning out! Better say something to keep them listening. And this can go on and on and on for the rest of the convention.

This just scares the crap out of me.

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While I agree that NIMBY is a problem when it comes to placement of power plants, and I agree with you on most of your other points, I must strongly disagree with you about "In addition, whatever pollution is produced is less concentrated."

This is wrong. It is much easier, more effective, and requires less energy to control the pollution at one source than it is to control millions of sources. It does not matter one wit if the pollution is spread out over large areas - the total amount of pollution is still there. THAT is the problem.

For example, you take a can of motor oil and make a hole in it. You then hold the can over a stream and let the contents start leaking out. It is much easier for me to walk up to you and whap you upside the head and say "Stop that!" than it would be for you and 2000 of your friends to all get medicine droppers, each take a bit of oil, stand up and down the bank of the stream and all start putting drops of oil into it. I would have to go around to 2000 sources and whap all of you.

There is the same amount of pollution going into the stream and it is MUCH harder to control all these sources. GE is saying that they need to inspect all of the fuel cells every year. That is one hell of a lot of energy being spent to keep these things running.

Remember that just because one thing produces a lot of pollution does not mean that a million smaller things are going to produce less.

Also - you mention that NYC gets most of it's electricity from hydro. Hydro is a renewable resource. Natural Gas is not. Therefore it is costing nothing - other than plant and equipment - to make hydro power. There is no pollution that results from it. None. Zero. Nada. Natural gas on the other hand does cause pollution, though it is much less than nuclear or coal. But it is still there.

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Here's a quote from the platform about the public airwaves:

As Greens, we support those who urge the public to "reclaim the public airwaves." The privatization of the broadcast airwaves - one of our most important taxpayer assets - has caused serious deformations of our politics and culture. The basic problem is that private broadcasters control what the public owns. And in return for free licenses to use taxpayer property, broadcasters give us a steady stream of increasingly coarse, redundant, superficial programming and, of course, exclusively decide who says what on our public airwaves.

and another on censorship:

Although we see regular assaults on the freedoms of speech enshrined in our nation?s founding documents, we oppose censorship in the arts, media (including the World Wide Web and Internet), and press.

JMC

Speaking of MP3s, The Offspring just royally pissed off Sony today. Here is the story about them putting their next album on the web.

Gotta love anarchy!


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Vote for Ralph Nader. I can hear you screaming already, "But he can't possibly win!" You're absolutely right. He will not win. But that DOES NOT mean that your vote is wasted. Consider:

• Ralph himself will tell you that his candidacy is not so much about entering the White House, but more about changing the political discourse in this country so that REAL issues are discussed.
• This time around, maybe Ralph only gets a lousy 5% of the vote. That's enough to make people wonder what the hell is going on. Next time around, he (or another Green, or another Third Party With Principles) gets 8 or 9%. Next time, 15%. Sure, this takes time, but over a period of years, you can become a force to be reckoned with. Either the Dems and Repubs will revert to representing the PEOPLE (they'll be too scared to do otherwise), or a third party will actually come to power. A revolution within a stable democracy takes a lot of time. That doesn't mean it cannot happen. (Look at what happened in Mexico this summer--and its government is far more corrupt than ours.)
• It's a vote for Bush or Gore that's actually a wasted vote. That's voting for continnued Governance By Corporations. Neither of these men is interested in serious campaign finance reform, ending corporate welfare, stopping the bargain-basement sale of the national commonwealth (our airwaves, etc.) to corporations, or . . .
• . . . DIGITAL FREEDOM. We are losing our personal freedoms in the electronic sphere because large corporations fear for their existence in this new age. They've bought the government in order to stifle changes that they find threatening. The only way to fight them is to take the government back. You can't do that by voting for Bush or Gore.

Vote for Nader. You'll sleep better. And after a few more election cycles, you'll live better.

/\/\/\/

Englebart's Unfinished Vision.

This man is truly a god and it just pisses me off thinking that some other clown gets all the attention because he can use his great marketing clout to rip off the public.

What sad times are these.

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Anytime I see someone proposing Ralph Nader as an alternative to bigger government I have to laugh. If you like Ralph Nader, fine, but he is a socialist and I guarantee you the government would be far more opressive under him.

"we should tax things we don't like" -- Ralph Nader.

I'll second the previous poster: vote libertarian.

Check out Nader's views at his site. He is very much more socialist than anything. (For a quick look at the five points in the political field, check out the libertarian party's main page. Quickly, though, they are: libertarian, authoritarian, conservative, liberal, and centrist.)

In every one of his views, Nader supports giving government more control, and removing control from us. Want an example? Just pick ANY of his issues. Taxation: "we should tax things we don't like." WHO DECIDES the "things we don't like"? Government, that's who! On EVERY issue, he supports giving control to government.

Please, please, dear Slashdotters, vote Libertarian this year. Our political system has been so corrupted by corporate influence that it barely resembles what our forefathers had in mind. They were a bunch of libertarians, favoring personal responsibility over government control. This is obvious in everything they did. Don't believe me? Go read the constitution of the United states and other documents found there (the Magna Carta (on which our constitution is based), Federalist Papers, Bill of Rights, and the declaration of independence). These are amazing documents.

Today, we have a two party system by design. We have been socially engineered to (as has been pointed out earlier) not vote. We have been socially engineered to think that political activism is wrong. Political activism is not wrong. It is not bad or immoral. Political activism is what got us our great country today, courtesy of George, and many others.

For the first time in my life, I will not vote with my party (and will be changing my affiliation soon). I supported Ronnie in the 80s, and George after him. Most recently, I supported Mr. Bob Dole. This year, I do not support my party's nomination. Why? OK, I have changed somewhat, but my party and this political system have changed radically over the last few years.

Today, (as I said earlier) our system is ruled by corporations. We must vote this year for a return to the land our forefathers built. We must vote the way they would have us vote. We must vote libertarian.

Join me, dear Slashdotters, in a vote to send this message to our congressmen (and women). If we continue to vote for the status quo, status quo is what we'll get. And it seems that status quo is not what many of us here on Slashdot want. So there it is, Slashdotters. A call to action. Either vote your heart - let them know how you feel - or SHUT UP.

There are more than two points of believe in this system (I mentioned them earlier), but that's not what the system has taught us to believe. We have more than two "choices," sure, but I see only one choice. And it's not one of the "big two" any more. The "big two" (republicans and democrats, which a friend calls republicrats) don't stand for us any more. They stand for corporate interests and their own interests.

Let them know who is boss. Vote to return our nation to its great beginnings.

Pshew. If you read this far, you have my thanks. If you vote with me, you have my sincerest gratitude.

Check out Nader's views at his site. He is very much more socialist than anything. (For a quick look at the five points in the political field, check out the libertarian party's main page. Quickly, though, they are: libertarian, authoritarian, conservative, liberal, and centrist.)

In every one of his views, Nader supports giving government more control, and removing control from us. Want an example? Just pick ANY of his issues. Taxation: "we should tax things we don't like." WHO DECIDES the "things we don't like"? Government, that's who! On EVERY issue, he supports giving control to government.

Please, please, dear Slashdotters, vote Libertarian this year. Our political system has been so corrupted by corporate influence that it barely resembles what our forefathers had in mind. They were a bunch of libertarians, favoring personal responsibility over government control. This is obvious in everything they did. Don't believe me? Go read the constitution of the United states and other documents found there (the Magna Carta (on which our constitution is based), Federalist Papers, Bill of Rights, and the declaration of independence). These are amazing documents.

Today, we have a two party system by design. We have been socially engineered to (as has been pointed out earlier) not vote. We have been socially engineered to think that political activism is wrong. Political activism is not wrong. It is not bad or immoral. Political activism is what got us our great country today, courtesy of George, and many others.

For the first time in my life, I will not vote with my party (and will be changing my affiliation soon). I supported Ronnie in the 80s, and George after him. Most recently, I supported Mr. Bob Dole. This year, I do not support my party's nomination. Why? OK, I have changed somewhat, but my party and this political system have changed radically over the last few years.

Today, (as I said earlier) our system is ruled by corporations. We must vote this year for a return to the land our forefathers built. We must vote the way they would have us vote. We must vote libertarian.

Join me, dear Slashdotters, in a vote to send this message to our congressmen (and women). If we continue to vote for the status quo, status quo is what we'll get. And it seems that status quo is not what many of us here on Slashdot want. So there it is, Slashdotters. A call to action. Either vote your heart - let them know how you feel - or SHUT UP.

There are more than two points of believe in this system (I mentioned them earlier), but that's not what the system has taught us to believe. We have more than two "choices," sure, but I see only one choice. And it's not one of the "big two" any more. The "big two" (republicans and democrats, which a friend calls republicrats) don't stand for us any more. They stand for corporate interests and their own interests.

Let them know who is boss. Vote to return our nation to its great beginnings.

Pshew. If you read this far, you have my thanks. If you vote with me, you have my sincerest gratitude.

There have been corporations in the last 20 years who make hundreds of millions of dollars, pay no taxes, or 1% tax, or 3% tax. Or if they owe taxes on export profits, they have been deferred to have their taxes forgiven by special-interest legislation.

In the 1950s, the corporate income tax was 25% of the federal outlay; it's now about 6% or 7%. This is in a period of record corporate profits, record stock market prices, record executive compensation. The corporations are not contributing their fair share to the tax pool. As a matter of fact, I suspect that if you took all the corporate welfare and then took all the corporate income taxes paid, the aggregate would be zero taxes paid. So that leaves the burden on, largely, middle-income and lower-income Americans. --Ralph Nader http://www.votenader.org

-Peter

Tired of corporate power? Vote Nader

Tired of corporate power? Vote Nader

Instead of starting another country, why don't we take this one back?

We can start by voting for Ralph Nader: http://www.votenader.org/

I always hated politics because television's presentation of it was so stupid. Web sites like issues2000.org changed my attitude. Consider this little rant by Ralph Nader that criticizes the boring political views of pundits who are pigeonholed into "liberal" and "conservative" categories by their superiors.

Nader.

US Voters: FYI: Ralph Nader's campaign has taken a much stronger stance against Microsoft than the other two main candidates. Visit his website for more details.

This is the beggining of our end..after coming home from the protests at the DNC I saw a picture of a row of stern faced riot police that I thought looked kinda like robots..of course I had seen the police at the convention and while many are very robotic, most still have common sense. Robots don't have such a luxury..robots have only code, a robot could easily have common sense programmed, but that's all in the eye of the beholder..my idea of common sense would include the inability to kill anything..but what that would boil down to is including limitations on what you can do with it..which those in command of the robots wouldn't want..they think they have enough sense to not have the robots be doing something which they shouldn't be doing..but nay..here's the scenario.. At the 2004 convention the protests have gotten larger, more people see that corporations are taking control of the system..bending it to their financial interests. They must maintain their control and that means making sure we have a democratic or republican president since they have so much influence over those two and have continually instilled the idea in the public that voting any other way is throwing away your vote..pretty much everyone is displeased but they'll always choose the lesser of the two evils..but the protesters are trying to tell people differently..that it may be unlikely that voting for anyone else will win, but only by voting for that third party can you start to build the support so that for each election that follows the percentage will grow. So that's bad for the big businesses who wouldn't want to loose any of the grip around the neck of us politics and thus the world..and now we have the technology to build robots to use as riot police..perfect..there can be as many of these bots as people..and the best thing, is that if they so desire, they can have an unlimited amount of force..instantly subdue crowds..make up an excuse later 'there looked to be a bomb' everyone knows that it's fake, an excuse..but nobody can contest it..so everyone is afraid..nobody will rebel..4 years later they're in visible distance of every public area on soil..infrared included can even see through walls into your home (that technology is already legal and used in california) I may sound orwellian, but trust me, I'm psychic..I have seen what the future can be..act now Vote Nader vote period..send letters to congress..don't just sit here and do nothing about it and think that you'll know if it's getting worse and you'll do something then. Don't think that I'm just a tree huggin hippie and you'd be glad to see all the protesters like me thrown in jail..because by the time they get to what you care about, it'll be too late to protest. They're charging people with conspiracy to commit a felony for riding bikes out there..I saw over 40 people lined up to be arrested for that. Robots getting hacked isn't the problem, the current controllers have worse things in mind than what anyone at 2600 would do. Thanks for reading! -GreenCow =)

Nader's really quite interesting because he's the only candidate to strongly oppose corporate funding of government, the only candidate to support universal health care, and the only candidate who really supports worker's rights.

If you're not familiar with his platform, you should at least give it a chance; it's much more reasonable than other third party alternatives.

Also, it's worth thinking about signing the petition to get Nader into the debates. Right now the Democrats and Republicans have created a system that prevents third parties from being heard in the national debates. They don't want a repeat of what happened when Perot was in the debates in '92. But third party candidates are critical in that they bring up issues that the other candidates don't want to consider. This is important regardless of whether you support Nader as a candidate.

Sorry to rant about politics, but I think Nader provides an alternative to the republicrats with which so many of the /. readers seem to be dissatisfied.

Libertarian Party no(ish) to MS breakup

Do you really think that they understand free(dom) software with this sort of statement (about Y2K)?

Heh - he needs to get acquainted with shrink-wrap EULAs. Then he'd find out about how much a statement like that one was worth.;)

Uhhh.. Nader is the canidate for the Green Party, not the Libertarians. There's a big difference there..

Dispite that, I agree that this was more of a lucky decision to pick a host with brains more than a political move.

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Do you really think that they understand free(dom) software with this sort of statement (about Y2K)? Do they understand what GPL/BSDL is about, or did the techs set up the server, picking what they thought would be best for the job? (i.e. a very secure OS that is very likely to be attacked)

If you'd like to see Nader in the debates, sign the on-line petition:

http://green.votenader.org/cgi -bin/petition-sigs.cgi

(a good example, IMHO, of how technology can influence politics)

Yes, there is a very big effort on many fronts. Whenever I'm watching a political show and the host asks a Republican or Democrat whether Nader should be allowed in....they say yes!

There hardly seems to be anyone who seriously believes Nader should be kept out of the debates, other than those bastards at the CPD.

Anyway, turn on CNN tonight at 7:30(EST), Nader will be on Crossfire, and I bet he'll talk about the debates.

Also, if you haven't already done so, sign this petition:
http://green.votenader.org/cgi -bin/petition-sigs.cgi

"We should tax activities that we don't like" - Nader

Michael Moore (of Roger & Me and The Awful Truth fame) has written a letter to the non-voting majority suggesting they join him in voting for Nader.

We could certainly do a lot worse than put a consumer watchdog in the White House. Ralph Nader has written in his weekly column that Congress and the President should disclose their records on the Internet. If he were elected, I'd love to see him follow through on that and run a wired administration.

I think Jesse Ventura showed that the non-voters can get off their couches and vote against the corporate-friendly centrists, if a third party candidate is famous and charismatic enough. Ralph Nader is famous, but he's not exactly mediagenic. The media that lavished so much attention on the Republican's sideshow didn't paid little notice when Nader appeared across town from the convention, which he denounced as a corporate-paid "political orgy".

Even if he is dry as dust, four years of Nader vs. Congress could be entertaining.

Michael Moore (of Roger & Me and The Awful Truth fame) has written a letter to the non-voting majority suggesting they join him in voting for Nader.

We could certainly do a lot worse than put a consumer watchdog in the White House. Ralph Nader has written in his weekly column that Congress and the President should disclose their records on the Internet. If he were elected, I'd love to see him follow through on that and run a wired administration.

I think Jesse Ventura showed that the non-voters can get off their couches and vote against the corporate-friendly centrists, if a third party candidate is famous and charismatic enough. Ralph Nader is famous, but he's not exactly mediagenic. The media that lavished so much attention on the Republican's sideshow didn't paid little notice when Nader appeared across town from the convention, which he denounced as a corporate-paid "political orgy".

Even if he is dry as dust, four years of Nader vs. Congress could be entertaining.

The Reform Party convention isn't till next week, so we don't know if their candidate will be notorious thug Pat Buchanan or Natural Law Party candidate John Hagelin, who's trying to get both nominations.

Voting for the "least worst choice" is still going downhill. Make your vote actually count. Vote Nader

Voting for the "least worst choice" is still going downhill. Make your vote actually count. Vote Nader

if Gore vs. Bush is a choice you don't want to make, sign this petition to get Nader and Buchanan(and maybe Browne, too) into the debates:

http://green.votenader.org/cgi-bin/petition-sigs.c gi

The CPD is evil.

For everyone's sake, Vote Nader. While I agree anything would be better than another Bush in office, it is inevitable. Casting your vote for a viable candidate rather than a talking monkey speaks for itself. Voting for the lesser of two evils (Gore) is throwing away your conscience instead of trying to make a change. Why blindly fall for second best? We must begin taking the steps to change our leadership to represent us again, and we can do it without bloodshed if you would just vote your conscience.

Napster will take the fall for MP3 redistribution and so we must take the next step in improving Gnutella and Freenet. By legitimizing our own distribution systems instead of corporate bound Napster, we strenghten our own voice. And we should speak out for what we want, even if it is "lawless" at this time. In the current culture of lawyers and copyrights I can't see any way for Napster to survive. But vote for Gore and the government dogs won't get the message will soon come for the rest of our freedoms rather than working to protect them.