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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reform-computer-fraud-and-abuse-act-reflect-realities-computing-and-networks-2013/qMvdwVNw And it's under the 25k rule for review by the White House. Yes.. they don't lead on legislation, but it's a great place to short support for her bill. Thanks,

Here is the equivalent petition for Steve Heymann:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/fire-assistant-us-attorney-steve-heymann/RJKSY2nb

Heymann's still needs more signatures to get over the minimum required for a mandatory response.

Here is the petition to fire Ortiz:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck

Let's not forget to sign the petition to Fire U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz

I trust you've all signed the petition to Fire Assistant U.S. Attorney Steve Heymann

I'd agree we should repeal the CFAA entirely, ditto PATRIOT Act, etc.

Ideally, one should halt plea bargains entirely as well though, civilized countries forbid that barbaric practice. It's plea bargains that create the need for these insane laws with which prosecutors beat defendants into guilty pleas.

I doubt we'll correct these systemic problems though because the prison-industrial-prosecutorial complex has far too effective a lobby.

I suspect me must demonstrate the capacity to derail the profesional lives of overzealous prosecutors and law enforcement before they'll back off enough for us to fix the underlying laws.

You should sign the petition to fire both Stephen Heymann and Carmen Ortiz of course, especially the one for Heymann who previously drove another accused hacker to suicide.

We must take this well beyond simply firing these two abusive prosecutors though. We should obviously prevent them from ever winning any primary elections or being appointed for other political posts, especially judgeships.

If they lose their jobs, we should then target any private sector law firms that hire them for corporate law. You should not harass said law firms directly of course, but attempting to raise a stink with their clients might work.

If these two powerful prosecutors wind up as lowly defense attorneys, even highly paid ones, then we'll basically have sent a clear message that abusing the CFAA isn't necessarily such an effective way to make a political career for yourself.

There are numerous other people deserving of the same treatment as well, but at present we've no method of organizing it.

I'd agree we should repeal the CFAA entirely, ditto PATRIOT Act, etc.

Ideally, one should halt plea bargains entirely as well though, civilized countries forbid that barbaric practice. It's plea bargains that create the need for these insane laws with which prosecutors beat defendants into guilty pleas.

I doubt we'll correct these systemic problems though because the prison-industrial-prosecutorial complex has far too effective a lobby.

I suspect me must demonstrate the capacity to derail the profesional lives of overzealous prosecutors and law enforcement before they'll back off enough for us to fix the underlying laws.

You should sign the petition to fire both Stephen Heymann and Carmen Ortiz of course, especially the one for Heymann who previously drove another accused hacker to suicide.

We must take this well beyond simply firing these two abusive prosecutors though. We should obviously prevent them from ever winning any primary elections or being appointed for other political posts, especially judgeships.

If they lose their jobs, we should then target any private sector law firms that hire them for corporate law. You should not harass said law firms directly of course, but attempting to raise a stink with their clients might work.

If these two powerful prosecutors wind up as lowly defense attorneys, even highly paid ones, then we'll basically have sent a clear message that abusing the CFAA isn't necessarily such an effective way to make a political career for yourself.

There are numerous other people deserving of the same treatment as well, but at present we've no method of organizing it.

Is this what you are looking for?
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/abolish-tsa-and-use-its-monstrous-budget-fund-more-sophisticated-less-intrusive-counter-terrorism/c7L94bFB

>Make an example out of the prosecutors who turn minor complaints or annoyances into massive criminal cases by firing them and ruining their careers. When they whine, "But this is ridiculous and completely out of proportion with what we did! We were just doing what the system is set up for us to do!" we might get some new allies in the fight to change the system.

US Attorneys are the closest things to dictators our country has. Chris Christie said that as governor he missed the power he had a US Attorney. They're designed to be independent, and firing them for what cases they choose to bring to trial has ended up backfiring before. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy) As the wikipedia entry says, "The U.S. Attorneys, in their pursuit of justice, wield enormous power. Their political impartiality in deciding which cases to prosecute and in arguing those cases before judges and juries with diverse views is essential."

I think *this* needs to change.

And they need to be liable for abuse of their power.

I'm watching it happen in my own life. US Attorney Wagner (http://www.justice.gov/usao/cae/us_attorney/index.html) here in California is currently actively trying to ruin the life of one of my friends. Wagner is the guy that recently made front page headlines on the NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/us/14pot.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) for arresting medical marijuana folks licensed in California. My friend is a landowner whose tenants grew pot on his land without his knowledge. For this, Wagner is attempting to seize all of their assets, both related to the case and unrelated. He's doing this all around the state (http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2011/10/07/california-u-s-attorneys-issue-statement-on-targeting-marijuana-industry/), and there's nothing that we the people can really do about it - he apparently feels very comfortable where he sits, ruining the lives of innocent people, because he feels it will intimidate landowners across the state into what he feels the law should be.

It's ridiculous, and it's unconstitutional in my opinion.

Here is a petition to remove Wagner from office:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/fire-us-attorney-wagner-abuse-federal-powers/K7mgGkHG

It's there: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/lower-petition-count-taking-us-seriously-back-25000-signatures/cNjdpc3R

Plus, of course, the take your ball and go home petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/get-rid-petitionswhitehousegov/DLBvj7Vh

It's there: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/lower-petition-count-taking-us-seriously-back-25000-signatures/cNjdpc3R

Plus, of course, the take your ball and go home petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/get-rid-petitionswhitehousegov/DLBvj7Vh

There were at least two serious petitions that were blown off - legalization of marijuana and elimination of TSA.

The marijuana one got a response. You can argue about how valid the response was, but it wasn't blown off. The TSA one didn't pass the threshold, as noted in your link. Maybe there were some shenanigans with "maintenance" to thwart it, but if it had overwhelming support it could have easily passed the threshold without waiting for the last minute.

Kudos to the White House for changing the URLs so that Google searches return bad links, and no search on the petition page.

It's easily fixable by comparing the new URL scheme with the old one. While I think it's a really shitty practice by web devs/admins to break links without redirects, it happens all the time and wasn't necessarily intentional.

Oddly, searching for "Neill Franklin" the author of a petition, returns no results.

Try doing the same for any author of any petition. You'll note that petition signatures and creators only include the first name and last initial.

I find it astonishing that anyone with an IQ over 120 supports this administration.

Did somebody with an IQ over 120 write your post?

I don't think this is about the joke petitions but about the speed of getting 25000 signatories for the removal of publicity hound Carmen Ortiz because of her part in Aaron Swartz's suicide. She's part of The Establishment, they want to keep her so it is far better to raise the bar than address a perceived problem.

Failed hypothesis:

"[..] although petitions already underway as of Wednesday, such as the one to remove the federal prosecutor in the Aaron Swarz case, will only require the original 25,000 for White House review."

And the petition has already passed the threshold:

"SIGNATURES NEEDED BY FEBRUARY 11, 2013 TO REACH GOAL OF 25,000: 0"

TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION: 39,825"

The petition to fire her assistant, Steve Heymann, who "wanted a high-profile computer crime conviction," [1] needs help as well.

The link is near the end of the article. This is great, because now other entities can solicit opinions similarly.

Yes, that is really, really great. Now "other entities" can solicit opinions similarly in order to make their constituents or customers think they give a damn. Thanks The White House!

Petition to remove United States District Attorney Carmen Ortiz from office.

Thanks to those who started petitions for Master Chief statues, roaming motorcycle gangs of justices, and Death Stars. Without you folks making jokes out of serious attempts to make political headway on important issues, we might not have had our collective voices diluted. Making a mockery of those interested in forcing the white house to defend, or oppose, or otherwise make a solid stand of issues sure is helpful.

Let's see what nonsense you can come up with to raise that threshold from 100,000 to 250,000.

Here is the Death Star petition, take a look before it expires.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking

The link is near the end of the article. This is great, because now other entities can solicit opinions similarly.

This petition, asking the White House to censure the prosecutor responsible for Aaron Swartz' felony case, will need a lot more signatures if they apply this standard to it. So now would be a good time to go sign it.

Tomorrow would be a good time too, since the limit only applies to _new_ petitions, not existing ones.

If you look at the link you provided, it clearly states that the goal was 25,000, not 100,000.

Crap, broken link. This one should work.

This petition, asking the White House to censure the prosecutor responsible for Aaron Swartz' felony case, will need a lot more signatures if they apply this standard to it. So now would be a good time to go sign it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/wh_now_is_the_time_full.pdf How about from the whitehouse itself, research on guns was never banned, just advocacy. BOOM. "... the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and other scientific agencies have been barred by Congress from using funds to “advocate or promote gun control,” and some members of Congress have claimed this prohibition also bans the CDC from conducting any research on the causes of gun violence. However, research on gun violence is not advocacy; it is critical public health research that gives all Americans information they need."

So you will support having all military and law enforcement in this country operating under the same restrictions for gun possession as US citizens do, as there is clearly no need for the more dangerous and evil military grade weapons? https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/require-law-enforcement-and-military-adhere-same-gun-laws-and-restrictions-placed-us-citizens/xhGg99rL?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions: [1] [2]

These dudes were going for Aarons head to make a name for themselves, most ass hats just don'

This is a non-event - prosecutors basically never admit error, until they are forced to.

On this subject, there is a White House petition to Remove United States District Attorney Carmen Ortiz from office for overreach in the case of Aaron Swartz.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck There's also this.

I just compared the highly voted vs. the not-so-highly-voted petitions at https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions . It made me question the wisdom of universal suffrage.

Yeah, well, last week's big petition was to build a Death Star, that got 34,435 signatures. So, yeah, they're toilet paper.

They answered that petition, though.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking

This country was founded as a Republic, it is wrongly promoted as a Democracy but in actuality it has become an Oligarchy. And when it gets right down to it, its about money. So where do you want your taxes spent or do you typically go into a store and hand the cashier your money and take whatever they give you? How about we the people take control of budgeting and accounting by each of us saying where to allocate the tax funding we individually supply our employee government with? That way the representatives can actually literally financially know how to represent us in this republic. Income tax shouldn't be anything more than a similar percentage of what sales tax is, giving everyone say in what teamwork benefit generating way their taxes are to be used. Vote to hire who is best qualified to optimize the team work benefit generation of taxpayers sum intents. And its side effect of self esteem in knowing you are actively participating in teamwork benefits you share in. Of course you can select to let the government decide where to use your taxes and here the voters can help to determine use.

Can it really be this simple? Occums razor... yes!

But who believe the government is really listening or that this crowd sourcing can work? Personally I'll be totally amazed if this petition https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/provide-each-taxpayer-independent-voice-where-taxes-they-pay-are-be-allocated-and-used-all-tax/cxBlXQht gets enough signers to even just be searchable on the site (150) much more so if it gets enough to just see how the Obama Administration responds to dismiss it.

"we the people" white house petitions are perceived as being nothing more than hollywood babel.
Do you really think there are 25,000 people who have any clue about this subject matter of the petition?
Imagine the "Death Star" petition and the white house response. if that ain't hollywood... what is.

Here is one for contrast: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/provide-each-taxpayer-independent-voice-where-taxes-they-pay-are-be-allocated-and-used-all-tax/cxBlXQht

lets prove the point.

Also: as meaningless as petitions are, they'd be slightly less meaningless if you at least courageously offered those an ability to sign a petition in the opposite direction too.

LMFTFY.
Besides that: making their voices heard to government meaningless? Wow, you're cynical.

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor
Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions:
[1]
[2]

That's right. A great guy dies, and a bunch of ignorant assholes that have never done anything useful in their lives keep on spreading evil.

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor
Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions:
[1]
[2]

That's right. A great guy dies, and a bunch of ignorant assholes that have never done anything useful in their lives keep on spreading evil.

From a purely hypothetical perspective, what if someone organized some kind of response / retaliation against this prosecutor or the supporting system / politicians for this? What form would likely best send the right message? I'm not thinking of any specific form of retaliation, just wondering what form would likely be effective. Obviously, killing the prosecutor produces the opposite effect (in addition to being illegal).

It's already happening:
see here.

A lot of people are outraged over the prosecutorial overreach in this case (and, by extension, the tradition of prosecutorial overreach in most cases prosecuted by the federal government), and a petition has popped up to remove the DA in charge of this case: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck

It's a start, though what I'd really like to see is some proper judicial reform, so we can bring some sanity to the judicial system.

Links to the Ars coverage of this story:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/internet-pioneer-and-information-activist-takes-his-own-life/
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/family-blames-us-attorneys-for-death-of-aaron-swartz/

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor
Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions:
[1]
[2]

Fuck off asshole. If you are facing decades in prison and being forever named a felon, wouldn't you consider it?

These prosecutors need to pay for their crimes. They need to be fired, disbarred, and then thrown in jail.

Culprit #1: Stephen P. Heymann, the head of the Cybercrime Unit and lead prosecutor
Culprit #2: Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney (and Bostonian of the Year as Twitter tells me)

Sign the petitions:
[1]
[2]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/assign-nasa-do-feasibility-study-and-conceptual-design-gen1-uss-enterprise-interplanetary-spaceship/DB07k8jF

how exactly did you want them to respond to a petition that by their own rules forces them to respond if given enough votes?

When their own 'rules' gives them an absolute out, forcing them to respond means little. See the Chris Dodd bribery petition.

Terms of Participation from https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/how-why/terms-participation
"To avoid the appearance of improper influence, the White House may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition."

Wow, look at all 96 of those memes....

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/responses

how exactly did you want them to respond to a petition that by their own rules forces them to respond if given enough votes?

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/secure-resources-and-funding-and-begin-construction-death-star-2016/wlfKzFkN

Secure resources and funding, and begin construction of a Death Star by 2016.

Thank you for taking the time to sign this petition. Due to recent leaks in the press, the Death Star project (previously classified project names included "Sphere of Phear", "Planet Death", "The Killing Ball", "Death Moon", "Giant Hurt Ball" and "Deathticle" has recently been partially declassified under the IEKINLAS provision.

Your administration has begun work on constructing a Death Star at the Formalhaut Space Dock facilities, and work is [CLASSIFIED]. We expect [CLASSIFIED] to mount an [CLASSIFIED] and when [CLASSIFIED] fully commited, it will be revealed that [CLASSIFIED].