Healthcare is expensive because of high salaries of some workers. My cousin runs a nursing home. If you want to see a woman turn a scary color, ask her what she has to pay her RNs.
You should turn around and ask the RN what they have to pay for nursing school and then tell your cousin to kindly keep her shit together. Why would you want minimum wage people taking care of your grandparents anyways? It isn't exactly like staying in a nursing home is cheap. There is still tons of room for profit. If money was the ultimate goal, go into banking, not healthcare.
Why would an atheist reject a god nobody claimed ever existed? What is your definition of atheist? The proper definition of atheist: disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of a god or gods. Without somebody inventing and claiming a god exists, there would be no people to reject the unpostulated, unclaimed, concept. Your logic is severely broken or you are completely ignorant as to what atheism actually is.
Atheists simply reject theism. They don't have a faith. The rejection of a faith is not a faith. To claim that is ignorance. Off is not a tv channel. Bald is not a hair color. Unemployment is not a job. Not collecting stamps is not a hobby. Not playing tennis is not a sport. Abstinence is not a sexual activity. An empty bowl is not a meal. Silence is not a noise. Clear is not a color. An absolute vacuum is not a smell. Not kicking cats is not animal abuse. Not doing drugs is not an addiction. Not practicing a faith is not a faith. Make sense?
I even removed the sarcasm from the above statements to ensure you wouldn't be confused.
One more little fancy bit of information, if there was one shred of proof for any god, there wouldn't be atheists with any credibility. In all reality, I was going to say there wouldn't be atheists at all if there was any proof of a god, but we still have idiots that believe the world is flat. Even atheists aren't immune to 'teh dumb' sometimes.
Free to air is satellite TV. You may still be able to get it if you've got a view of the southern sky if you are in the northern hemisphere, north if you are in the southern hemisphere. Free to air is not the same a terrestrial TV.
I've worked for federal government. Administrators don't worry about risk to their career for things like this. Elected officials may worry about things like this, but not your average higher up federal employee. Actually most of those higher up administrators believe they are bullet proof or even god itself. More FUD.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/wh_now_is_the_time_full.pdf
How about from the whitehouse itself, research on guns was never banned, just advocacy. BOOM.
"... the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and other scientific agencies have been barred by Congress from using funds to “advocate or promote gun control,” and some members of Congress have claimed this prohibition also bans the CDC from conducting any research on the causes of gun violence. However, research on gun violence is not advocacy; it is critical public health research that gives all Americans information they need."
The only thing 'blocked by the NRA' is a line item for budget from congress. This does not prevent or preclude any kind of research or overhead funding of such a research project by any agency. Please get your information straight. Federal agencies have huge budgets and are granted a certain level of autonomy. A project with less than a million worth of funding will never even cross the desk of someone in congress. It might even take a few million before it starts raising eyebrows. The other thing, if the project doesn't require much in the line of asset acquisition - just people, it can be done without ever being a line item in a budget anyways, the color of money is different. The NRA is not preventing any research from happening. Congress was urged to not line-item-fund the kind of research, and they agreed. You can't blame the lobbyists(not that I like the idea of lobbyists), they aren't the ones putting the the rules into action, that would be congress.
So you are saying, with the only line from the link you posted that is actually relevant (the rest being a retarded emotional appeal, and in some cases totally off topic??), that congress is the only institution that can fund research like this? I find this hard to believe.
If this kind of data manipulation can be done to account for cause and cure with no control groups or understanding of which individuals have taken the medication, please, run the numbers as the data is already available. We have this wonderful invention called the internet where you can self publish your results.
You can already pull crime statistics, nobody is stopping you from doing this - same as disease statistics. Violent crime rates have gone down, ALOT, over the past 30-40 years. With a height of 52 victims of violent crimes per 1000 people down to less than 17 victims of violent crime per 1000 people in 2009. We had less than 50 guns per 100 people in 1969, as of 2009, we are at a 1 for 1 ratio of guns to people. There went your epidemiology calculations.
You should be comparing guns and crime more to the effectiveness of a medication (the gun, in case you need a hint) on a disease (crime, you compared crime to a disease and say you can look at it as an epidemic, right?). The problem is the medication (the guns) being distributed randomly through out the population where some people have a lot of medication, some have zero medication. Now tell me the effect of this medication (guns) at curing a disease (crime) in the populace by looking ONLY at the people that are still infected (victimized). That sounds kind of dumb unless somebody was also keeping track of who used the medication (was armed) and who did not before they were infected (victimized). As far as I'm aware, we are not keeping any meaningful records on who had taken the medication (been armed) and still been infected (victimized) to even pull a small amount of data from the situation. Please, enlighten me how this all works out in your mind.
Legal gun ownership and crime[s committed by those owners] do not correlate on any meaningful level. I figured you were intelligent enough to read into the meaning, don't be ridiculous.
What is your defense now? Look somewhere else. Let me break this down easy for you. Guns don't commit crime, people commit crime. Guns can prevent crime or at least reduce the damage of a crime. This is why we call people with guns when we are in trouble.
Pull off the tin foil hat. Public data requests are public data requests. If you feel inclined to pull some data, pull some data, the NRA can't stop you. What kind of imaginary scenario do you live in where one organization (the NRA - who doesn't even control the data) can stop every public information request in every local government and municipality in the US? The problem is we are just not recording things that haven't actually happened (why would we???). We don't keep data on ALMOST raped or ALMOST mugged as no crime or event actually transgressed. There is no tinfoil hat chaffing organization stopping these studies from happening. The data simply doesn't exist and is not measurable by any government organization with current tactics (hint - we are reactionary). On a side note, I don't even carry a fire arm. I've only shot my own gun on one occasion at a range since buying it quite some time ago. It is a.22 semi-auto handgun and by most gun waving idiot's standards not even good for personal protection/stopping power. Please remove your pre-conceived and incorrectly assumed information asshattery from this argument.
Until you begin to look at actual crimes prevented (and figure out how to do so), you are still skirting the issue. Your argument is invalid. How would someone even prove they were almost raped or almost assaulted? We have a huge burden held by government of proving an actual crime was commited, let alone worrying about proof of a crime almost commited. Diseases (counted by CDC/state/local health departments) and drug arrests (counted by FBI/state/local police) are recorded and measurable data points, almost being mugged/raped/assaulted (counted by NULL/NOBODY/NOTHING) never gets recorded. You are still failing to look at the actual problem. Just because crime is more or less prevalent in an area has nothing to do with crimes prevented by carrying a weapon for personal protection. Crime and legal gun ownership do not correlate on any meaningful level. Stop hiding behind your fear of guns.
This is an ignorant request. Nobody records "I avoided a rape by flashing my gun," "I shot a warning shot over the guy's head on my property to prevent him from coming closer", or even to the extreme, "the potential mugger saw my gun exposed in my holster and decided not to attack me for my wallet". There is no actual Data for this and no way to prove it. Maybe create a law that requires the reporting of all 'almost crimes' that happened? What kind of comical recording agency would take this information? Who is to say every gun nut out there doesn't consider themselves protected EVERY day just walking around with their gun on their hip.
I would mod you up if I had any mod points. This is exactly what I had envisioned as well. Other than the potential of more debris from space junk if a crash occurs, what would prevent this from happening?
Yes. Exactly the definition of "like". This is exactly why I chose the word. I'm sure CISCO's intellectual property goons would take issue if it were EXACTLY IDENTICAL (why I did not use the words 'exactly' or 'identical' in the original comment). Good for you with your mastery of IOS. I've had no troubles with BGP or any tunneling/VPN I've had to set up with Vyatta, we use it extensively in a very large virtualization environment. The original posted question was asking if there was any enterprise grade hardware that ran linux, not your opinion of the hardware and it's configuration compared to IOS. If they ran IOS on it, it wouldn't be linux and it would defeat the original posed question.
Mod parent up! Vyatta CLI is very much like the other big network vendors as far as configuration goes. The hardware is the choice, however they do actually provide appliances. Vyatta is excellent for both routing and firewall purposes. Above link points local, here is actual link: http://www.vyatta.com/solutions/physical/appliances
Irritating. Take your correctness somewhere else. Ever seen a link on the 'web' to something like SSH, or a UNC path to a windows/samba share, how about an email link? These are not 'web' but still exist within the 'web'. Your concept of what the "web" or internet has evolved into is outdated. Yes, I understand what HTTP is as well as most other common protocols out there, and yes I know the tcp/ip stack up and down. Another thing about these streaming sites like Hulu - likely, they are not even using HTTP for the media. Some other application/media server normally handles the streaming to try to keep it as proprietary and controlled as possible. Even if "web browser only" was more correct, I wouldn't need flash/silverlight
You appear to be oversimplifying and over complicating the matter at the same time. Stop. Nobody cares. Next time, try to contribute something.
I wonder if this will allow Hulu "Web Only" content. I cant understand how getting Hulu over the internet is not automatically classified as 'Web Only' but there are shows that will not stream to the XBOX360 and **MUST** be watched in a browser.
A friend of mine in law enforcement explained to me that those "scared straight" programs are mostly worthless. The kids come in, take a look, and say "Oh that isn't going to be me, I am way smarter than those fools."
I'll definitely agree they are MOSTLY worthless. The kids that were still pretty hardcore on drugs and into larceny were still pretty hardcore on drugs and into larceny. Those of us who were not yet into that kind of thing, did not ever go into that kind of lifestyle. I still keep in touch with most of those guys too. I wont go as far as to say I would have picked up that lifestyle if I hadn't gone through the jail, but I can definitely say that it made up my mind at the time.
I had my fun in high school and college. I am just not super motivated or at all interested in politics enough to worry about the political power junkies. I stay off their radar, they stay off mine. I still hold the view that if more of these kids understood the consequences of jail, we'd have less of them in it. *over generalization* I guess you are a drug abusing hippy without a job spending all your time resisting "the man"? *over generalization off*
And we also seem to realize that taking kids on field trips to see humans in jail wouldn't be prudent either.
Not the case - I was on a traveling football team in my younger years (early teen). We had drug and theft issues running through the community and team. We were actually brought to see the humans in jail. I decided at that moment that it was never going to be the place for me. Maybe we should take MORE of our kids to see humans in jail.
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I feel we are moving towards Sea Quest.
Healthcare is expensive because of high salaries of some workers. My cousin runs a nursing home. If you want to see a woman turn a scary color, ask her what she has to pay her RNs.
You should turn around and ask the RN what they have to pay for nursing school and then tell your cousin to kindly keep her shit together. Why would you want minimum wage people taking care of your grandparents anyways? It isn't exactly like staying in a nursing home is cheap. There is still tons of room for profit. If money was the ultimate goal, go into banking, not healthcare.
Why would an atheist reject a god nobody claimed ever existed? What is your definition of atheist? The proper definition of atheist: disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of a god or gods. Without somebody inventing and claiming a god exists, there would be no people to reject the unpostulated, unclaimed, concept. Your logic is severely broken or you are completely ignorant as to what atheism actually is.
Atheists simply reject theism. They don't have a faith. The rejection of a faith is not a faith. To claim that is ignorance. Off is not a tv channel. Bald is not a hair color. Unemployment is not a job. Not collecting stamps is not a hobby. Not playing tennis is not a sport. Abstinence is not a sexual activity. An empty bowl is not a meal. Silence is not a noise. Clear is not a color. An absolute vacuum is not a smell. Not kicking cats is not animal abuse. Not doing drugs is not an addiction. Not practicing a faith is not a faith. Make sense?
I even removed the sarcasm from the above statements to ensure you wouldn't be confused.
One more little fancy bit of information, if there was one shred of proof for any god, there wouldn't be atheists with any credibility. In all reality, I was going to say there wouldn't be atheists at all if there was any proof of a god, but we still have idiots that believe the world is flat. Even atheists aren't immune to 'teh dumb' sometimes.
There would be no atheist zealots if the religious zealots didn't exist.
Free to air is satellite TV. You may still be able to get it if you've got a view of the southern sky if you are in the northern hemisphere, north if you are in the southern hemisphere. Free to air is not the same a terrestrial TV.
Just bought two of them off of amazon. Impatiently awaiting delivery on monday/tuesday to do exactly this.
I've worked for federal government. Administrators don't worry about risk to their career for things like this. Elected officials may worry about things like this, but not your average higher up federal employee. Actually most of those higher up administrators believe they are bullet proof or even god itself. More FUD.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/wh_now_is_the_time_full.pdf How about from the whitehouse itself, research on guns was never banned, just advocacy. BOOM. "... the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and other scientific agencies have been barred by Congress from using funds to “advocate or promote gun control,” and some members of Congress have claimed this prohibition also bans the CDC from conducting any research on the causes of gun violence. However, research on gun violence is not advocacy; it is critical public health research that gives all Americans information they need."
The only thing 'blocked by the NRA' is a line item for budget from congress. This does not prevent or preclude any kind of research or overhead funding of such a research project by any agency. Please get your information straight. Federal agencies have huge budgets and are granted a certain level of autonomy. A project with less than a million worth of funding will never even cross the desk of someone in congress. It might even take a few million before it starts raising eyebrows. The other thing, if the project doesn't require much in the line of asset acquisition - just people, it can be done without ever being a line item in a budget anyways, the color of money is different. The NRA is not preventing any research from happening. Congress was urged to not line-item-fund the kind of research, and they agreed. You can't blame the lobbyists(not that I like the idea of lobbyists), they aren't the ones putting the the rules into action, that would be congress.
So you are saying, with the only line from the link you posted that is actually relevant (the rest being a retarded emotional appeal, and in some cases totally off topic??), that congress is the only institution that can fund research like this? I find this hard to believe.
If this kind of data manipulation can be done to account for cause and cure with no control groups or understanding of which individuals have taken the medication, please, run the numbers as the data is already available. We have this wonderful invention called the internet where you can self publish your results.
You can already pull crime statistics, nobody is stopping you from doing this - same as disease statistics. Violent crime rates have gone down, ALOT, over the past 30-40 years. With a height of 52 victims of violent crimes per 1000 people down to less than 17 victims of violent crime per 1000 people in 2009. We had less than 50 guns per 100 people in 1969, as of 2009, we are at a 1 for 1 ratio of guns to people. There went your epidemiology calculations.
You should be comparing guns and crime more to the effectiveness of a medication (the gun, in case you need a hint) on a disease (crime, you compared crime to a disease and say you can look at it as an epidemic, right?). The problem is the medication (the guns) being distributed randomly through out the population where some people have a lot of medication, some have zero medication. Now tell me the effect of this medication (guns) at curing a disease (crime) in the populace by looking ONLY at the people that are still infected (victimized). That sounds kind of dumb unless somebody was also keeping track of who used the medication (was armed) and who did not before they were infected (victimized). As far as I'm aware, we are not keeping any meaningful records on who had taken the medication (been armed) and still been infected (victimized) to even pull a small amount of data from the situation. Please, enlighten me how this all works out in your mind.
Legal gun ownership and crime[s committed by those owners] do not correlate on any meaningful level. I figured you were intelligent enough to read into the meaning, don't be ridiculous.
What is your defense now? Look somewhere else. Let me break this down easy for you. Guns don't commit crime, people commit crime. Guns can prevent crime or at least reduce the damage of a crime. This is why we call people with guns when we are in trouble.
Pull off the tin foil hat. Public data requests are public data requests. If you feel inclined to pull some data, pull some data, the NRA can't stop you. What kind of imaginary scenario do you live in where one organization (the NRA - who doesn't even control the data) can stop every public information request in every local government and municipality in the US? The problem is we are just not recording things that haven't actually happened (why would we???). We don't keep data on ALMOST raped or ALMOST mugged as no crime or event actually transgressed. There is no tinfoil hat chaffing organization stopping these studies from happening. The data simply doesn't exist and is not measurable by any government organization with current tactics (hint - we are reactionary). On a side note, I don't even carry a fire arm. I've only shot my own gun on one occasion at a range since buying it quite some time ago. It is a .22 semi-auto handgun and by most gun waving idiot's standards not even good for personal protection/stopping power. Please remove your pre-conceived and incorrectly assumed information asshattery from this argument.
Until you begin to look at actual crimes prevented (and figure out how to do so), you are still skirting the issue. Your argument is invalid. How would someone even prove they were almost raped or almost assaulted? We have a huge burden held by government of proving an actual crime was commited, let alone worrying about proof of a crime almost commited. Diseases (counted by CDC/state/local health departments) and drug arrests (counted by FBI/state/local police) are recorded and measurable data points, almost being mugged/raped/assaulted (counted by NULL/NOBODY/NOTHING) never gets recorded. You are still failing to look at the actual problem. Just because crime is more or less prevalent in an area has nothing to do with crimes prevented by carrying a weapon for personal protection. Crime and legal gun ownership do not correlate on any meaningful level. Stop hiding behind your fear of guns.
This is an ignorant request. Nobody records "I avoided a rape by flashing my gun," "I shot a warning shot over the guy's head on my property to prevent him from coming closer", or even to the extreme, "the potential mugger saw my gun exposed in my holster and decided not to attack me for my wallet". There is no actual Data for this and no way to prove it. Maybe create a law that requires the reporting of all 'almost crimes' that happened? What kind of comical recording agency would take this information? Who is to say every gun nut out there doesn't consider themselves protected EVERY day just walking around with their gun on their hip.
I have no arms. I find this whole concept offensive!
I would mod you up if I had any mod points. This is exactly what I had envisioned as well. Other than the potential of more debris from space junk if a crash occurs, what would prevent this from happening?
Yes. Exactly the definition of "like". This is exactly why I chose the word. I'm sure CISCO's intellectual property goons would take issue if it were EXACTLY IDENTICAL (why I did not use the words 'exactly' or 'identical' in the original comment). Good for you with your mastery of IOS. I've had no troubles with BGP or any tunneling/VPN I've had to set up with Vyatta, we use it extensively in a very large virtualization environment. The original posted question was asking if there was any enterprise grade hardware that ran linux, not your opinion of the hardware and it's configuration compared to IOS.
If they ran IOS on it, it wouldn't be linux and it would defeat the original posed question.
Ruby only dates hipsters and yuppies. Analogy fail.
Mod parent up! Vyatta CLI is very much like the other big network vendors as far as configuration goes. The hardware is the choice, however they do actually provide appliances. Vyatta is excellent for both routing and firewall purposes. Above link points local, here is actual link: http://www.vyatta.com/solutions/physical/appliances
Irritating. Take your correctness somewhere else. Ever seen a link on the 'web' to something like SSH, or a UNC path to a windows/samba share, how about an email link? These are not 'web' but still exist within the 'web'. Your concept of what the "web" or internet has evolved into is outdated. Yes, I understand what HTTP is as well as most other common protocols out there, and yes I know the tcp/ip stack up and down. Another thing about these streaming sites like Hulu - likely, they are not even using HTTP for the media. Some other application/media server normally handles the streaming to try to keep it as proprietary and controlled as possible. Even if "web browser only" was more correct, I wouldn't need flash/silverlight
You appear to be oversimplifying and over complicating the matter at the same time. Stop. Nobody cares. Next time, try to contribute something.
I wonder if this will allow Hulu "Web Only" content. I cant understand how getting Hulu over the internet is not automatically classified as 'Web Only' but there are shows that will not stream to the XBOX360 and **MUST** be watched in a browser.
A friend of mine in law enforcement explained to me that those "scared straight" programs are mostly worthless. The kids come in, take a look, and say "Oh that isn't going to be me, I am way smarter than those fools."
I'll definitely agree they are MOSTLY worthless. The kids that were still pretty hardcore on drugs and into larceny were still pretty hardcore on drugs and into larceny. Those of us who were not yet into that kind of thing, did not ever go into that kind of lifestyle. I still keep in touch with most of those guys too. I wont go as far as to say I would have picked up that lifestyle if I hadn't gone through the jail, but I can definitely say that it made up my mind at the time.
I had my fun in high school and college. I am just not super motivated or at all interested in politics enough to worry about the political power junkies. I stay off their radar, they stay off mine. I still hold the view that if more of these kids understood the consequences of jail, we'd have less of them in it. *over generalization* I guess you are a drug abusing hippy without a job spending all your time resisting "the man"? *over generalization off*
Oh no, that's not a banana.
And we also seem to realize that taking kids on field trips to see humans in jail wouldn't be prudent either.
Not the case - I was on a traveling football team in my younger years (early teen). We had drug and theft issues running through the community and team. We were actually brought to see the humans in jail. I decided at that moment that it was never going to be the place for me. Maybe we should take MORE of our kids to see humans in jail.