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http://www.whydoesgodhateamputees.com/ Maybe this will throw a wrench into your faith.

"Show me a miracle!"

Damn straight! All sorts of miracles every day but no, people don't take the time to notice. People have to realize that the lord can move mountains, create the cosmos, and heal the sick and dying. Nothing is beyond His power. Just little tidbit though, why won't god heal amputees?

Like how would you know? You have been alive for less than 100 years.

Maybe if people rid themselve of vain traditions of man and actually do what scripture says, there may be more healing.

Israeli archaeologists actually go out and look for the remnants and signs of the events that occurred in the bible. Guess what? There's no evidence for any of them. Most archaeologists who've studied the middle east are in agreement that there was no Hebrew monarchy, and that the ancient Jews got started not as nomads but as a cult in an already settled region. That's what the real-world research has concluded. The bible is as reliable as greek mythology, norse mythology, egyptian mythology, or Grimm's Fairytales. Archaeological evidence is substantially better, being based, you know, on observable facts. Not unlike the observable fact that the amputated limbs of truly holy, faithful men are just as impossible to regrow as the limbs of sinners, despite any amount of prayer whatsoever.

Schizophrenia going away isn't particularly unusual. It's an unpredictable, transient disorder. Metastasized tumours the size of grapefruits (including the tumours of atheists) will occasionally go away spontaneously. Conversely, if your prayer group were to pray for a child's amputated arm to grow back, nothing would happen. Schizophrenia clears up coincidentally all the time. Limbs never do (which makes them the ideal test of the power of prayer). Most people with schizophrenia don't recover, even with prayer. I had three entire congregatons at three very different Christian churches praying for me, plus my entire extended family praying for me to this very day. It has never done a single bit of good. If anything, the false hope it provided made me wait for things to improve, rather than taking actionl The only thing that has ever helped was turning my back on God and putting my life into MY hands, putting faith in MYSELF, turning to my OWN skills and abilities for salvation. When you finally say "Fuck God" and start living for this life, you can actually accomplish things in the world; you can get out there and help yourself and those around you.

Read that website I linked: This page in particular will make it very clear to you. It explains about coincidences in clear, unambiguous language that even a theist can understand, should they be willing to engage in some basic reasoning.

As for God being my servant? Of course not. But there are Christians in the world who do follow the commandments, who do believe in Jesus with all their hearts, and who are veritable paragons of faith. Their prayers go just as unanswered as mine did. NO prayers get answered, except in so far as is consistent with random chance. Prayer doesn't pass the muster of even the weakest statistical tests. You're better off betting on horse races. I'd say that pretty much shuts the book on Christianity.

Only a fool respects all other points of view. Many points of view aren't deserving of respect. For example, believing in astrology (which is provably wrong), believing in crystal healing (also provably wrong), believing in the power of prayer (provably wrong, which simultaneously disproves the word of the bible completely), the mythology of the bible (there was provably no flood, no exodus, no wandering the desert, no series of wars to conquer Israel, and no king David).

You might think this is just random, undirected crankiness, but this really is something that people have looked into and researched extensively. Consider even this site: Why Wont God Heal Amputees. The bible doesn't say that prayer will make you go to heaven, it says that the prayers of the faithful will HEAL THE FUCKING SICK. Yet the sick are unhealed.

There isn't a single example in all of Human history of ANYONE -- no matter how faithfully they or their family or their church prayed -- regrowing an amputated limb. Ever. Therefore, the bible lied, Jesus lied, Christianity is a false religion. QED.

Of course, I personally don't give a damn. One imaginary invisible guy in the sky looks just like the other one.
Yeah, they all hate amputees.

The problem isn't that they were right. The problem is that they weren't right, but they still got what they wanted. It's like having a kid whine cry and yell at the top of his lungs in the supermarket, then watching the parent give in instead of smacking the shit out of them (even if mom was originally planning to get him what he bitched about at *some* point). The other problem is that while every other country was plunging ahead with applications of this science with government support, we were being backwards conservative religious twats about it. This is an issue we would have tried to solve sooner or later (can't be guaranteed to always have a fetus around with your genetic material for *treatment*, but it's fine for research) but the set backs suffered were stupid and unnecessary. Make no mistake: situations like this will put us behind other civilized nations that don't let their fate and decisions be decided by a 2000-3000 year old book.

What makes me sad is that out the other side of this whole issue is probably another set of "You're playing God!" arguments. Unfortunately my only retort is "Of course we have to when he doesn't actually exist". That's a whole 'nother can of worms though.

With all the prayers that everyone keeps asking for the troops, I wouldn't think it would be needed to find a way for medicine to restore a lost limb.

Oh wait maybe they should look for a way to fix that.

Burn Karma Burn.

I would like to remind the world that the reason prayer even works in the first place is because the Almighty God who is listening to the prayer decides to contiually look upon us with His grace and mercy.

but not if you are missing limbs, it seems ;(

for those poor souls, god doesn't give a flying shit.

Marshall Brain of How Stuff Works fame wrote a little book called Why Won't God Heal Amputees? (The Most Important Question We Can Ask about God).

Chapter Five deals with the title question and is especially pertinent to this discussion. There are some minor flaws with the conclusions drawn, but I have written the author about these and he intends to address them; they don't really detract from the conclusion.

A highly recommended read. A little wordy at times, but that is because it is trying to be conversational with a potentially hostile audience (I think).

I invite you to come on over to http://whydoesgodhateamputees.com/ you will have lots of fun. Read it all and then come share your genius with everybody in the forums.

There is no reason to spite them just because they're largely made up of Christians.

They should make this a required reading:

Why does God hate amputees?
http://whydoesgodhateamputees.com/

Why does a supposedly benevolent designer hate amputees and love slavery?!

Why does a supposedly benevolent designer hate amputees and love slavery?!