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Jon Katz Update: Very Serious Post Must Read
I'm drunk on a friday. PLease read!
http://www.workingdogweb.com/Katz.htm
A wonderful new dog book, one both humorous and heartwarming, has just been published. In it, author Jon Katz recounts his own very active education about dog behavior in general and working dogs in particular -- learning that occurred during this special year. Your editor, Barbara Petura, interviewed Jon recently to find out more about his experiences and thoughts about his Labradors and Border Collies, and about the world of working dogs from his perspective. He shared his views freely and directly.
Barbara: In preparing this interview, I read quite a bit about your book called Geeks: How Two Lost Boys Rode the Internet Out of Idaho which is the story of Jesse Dailey and his friend Eric Twilegar. In a sense, I saw some parallels between Jesse and your first Border Collie, Devon, as both were misfits or outcasts of a sort. Do you like writing about misfits and outcasts?
Jon: You are very perceptive. Devon is to dogs what Jesse is to teenagers..They are both Lost Boys, as I was as a kid, and I am drawn to the human and canine form. Although Devon - my wife calls him "Satan's Spawn" -- was vastly more rebellious, stubborn and difficult than Jesse. And that's saying something.
Here's a final little gem from Jonny Katz (sidenote: how can this obnoxious fuck live with himself?):
Jon: We are almost on a collision course in America. Millions of dogs, and no place for them to run freely, and a plethora of new and restrictive laws keeping them from going to places, working or getting to know people. It's disturbing how many aggressive, neurotic and unhealthy dogs I meet.
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Hey check out the crap Jonny Katz is pumping out!!
Hey this guy is very talented! He can spew out bullshit about any topic he's completely in the dark about to make a quick buck.
http://www.workingdogweb.com/Katz.htm
A wonderful new dog book, one both humorous and heartwarming, has just been published. In it, author Jon Katz recounts his own very active education about dog behavior in general and working dogs in particular -- learning that occurred during this special year. Your editor, Barbara Petura, interviewed Jon recently to find out more about his experiences and thoughts about his Labradors and Border Collies, and about the world of working dogs from his perspective. He shared his views freely and directly.
Barbara: In preparing this interview, I read quite a bit about your book called Geeks: How Two Lost Boys Rode the Internet Out of Idaho which is the story of Jesse Dailey and his friend Eric Twilegar. In a sense, I saw some parallels between Jesse and your first Border Collie, Devon, as both were misfits or outcasts of a sort. Do you like writing about misfits and outcasts?
Jon: You are very perceptive. Devon is to dogs what Jesse is to teenagers..They are both Lost Boys, as I was as a kid, and I am drawn to the human and canine form. Although Devon - my wife calls him "Satan's Spawn" -- was vastly more rebellious, stubborn and difficult than Jesse. And that's saying something.
Here's a final little gem from Jonny Katz (sidenote: how can this obnoxious fuck live with himself?):
Jon: We are almost on a collision course in America. Millions of dogs, and no place for them to run freely, and a plethora of new and restrictive laws keeping them from going to places, working or getting to know people. It's disturbing how many aggressive, neurotic and unhealthy dogs I meet.
That's all the Jon Krapz for today. This text is published under the Jonny Krapz license. You are free to distribute this text with the intent to make Jonny boy look like the rightful tool he happens to be. In other words, please repost this you lazy fucking trolls. -
Re:Where's Katz?Looks like he's writing about dogs now (wasn't he always? rimshot). He's obviously on a roll he's onto his second book:
- A Dog Year: Twelve Months, Four Dogs, and Me
- The Dogs of Bedlam Farm : An Adventure with Sixteen Sheep, Three Dogs, Two Donkeys, and Me
Perhaps dealing with real dogs is easier than dealing with the Dogs of Slashdot. -
Re:Whatever happened to Katz?
A real job, and one more suited to his skills. He's now a canine journalist (although, presumably, his bad experience with a C64 means he won't write about Afghans...)
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Re:Red Hat is great!
JonKatz has written a new book - it's about pimping biatchez or something.
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Repost of the Katz article...Since every time JohnKatz posts an article, people flame him - most without ever reading what he wrote in the first place. This is a reflect reaction to Katz that I suggest we fight with this new method. In a new trend, I suggest we repost any Katz article in the discussion forum of any such article. That way, we can reflect upon it in such a way that if Katz didn't post it, we can consider it before flaming.
from the can-open-marketing-online-save-writers? dept.
I'm not much of a salesman, in comfort or skill, but I'm willing to hype my books, especially given the realities of 21st Century publishing, when you do it yourself or nobody does it. Some people think if you get a book published, you're a big deal and a rich one. If you're Grisham or King, that's true. The reality: Few books sell well, and even fewer (mine, for example) make money. Can content like books be successfully "open-marketed" on the Net? I say yes.In early March my eleventh book A Dog Year; Twelve Months, Four Dogs and Me was published by Random House/Villard. For several months I've been working on a bottom-up, Net-based marketing program that permits me to push my own book in my own way, rather than rely on big publishing or big media. That led me to the banner ad on this site a lot of you have seen and e-mailed me about. So why am I buying a banner ad, on Slashdot of all places, to tout my new book about a year with four dogs? It's a chance for me to tick off the yowling hordes, which is always fun. Some will shriek that a dog saga has little to do with open source, technology or selling things on the Net. But it does, and I'm happy -- eager, even -- to explain why.
I do most of my hyping for A Dog Year in the expected places -- in media interviews and on various dog-related sites, mailing lists and forums.
My reason for advertising here, too, is that I believe the Net offers the best place for individual entrepreneurs of all kinds -- writers, game creators, artists, musicians, software designers -- to skirt conventional costs, limitations and marketing practices and find their own audiences. To me, that's a big part of the "open" in open source. Younger people raised on the Net don't pay nearly as much attention to mainstream media as their elders, so we have to reach them where they are. The good news is that we can.
In fact, Net communications themselves have become increasingly segmented and targeted. Much has become subterranean, centered on mailing lists, IM and other limited-entry venues. In the weeks before my book's publication, I concentrated on these grass-roots venues, contacting websites, subscribing to mailing lists, e-mailing excerpts of my book to people who were interested. People on special interests lists and chat rooms don't mind being pitched on subjects they're interested in. They don't consider it spam. What they hate is being bombarded with messages for things they don't care about, which is what traditional media does. Besides which, I can't afford to take an ad out in Time magazine or on the ABC Evening News.
Elsewhere, individual entrepreneurs and creators find it more and more difficult to survive. The megacorporations who've taken over much of culture and media are primarily interested in best-selling mega-products -- Britney Spears, John Grisham -- not idiosyncratic ones like mine. They have a point, too. My last book found its own audience, or rather its audience found it. It did all right, but didn't sell much beyond it's core audience. To successfully market a book like Running To The Mountain or A Dog Year (at least in the conventional way) could cost more money than my publisher expects to earn. And interesting, I believe the Running To The Mountain excerpt that ran on Slashdot sold more books than a subsequent appearance on the Oprah Winfrey show.
The Net, at least in theory, can bypass that stalemate and create radical new opportunities for artists of all kinds. So I don't mind paying for my own ad. I think it has worked.
Individuals are under attack all across our culture, from the likes of Microsoft and Wal-Mart and Sony to publishing conglomerates. The Net can be a way out for people like me (us), whether we're telling the story of our dogs or coming up with new software. What's why I bought a banner on Slashdot. If it works, it could sell some books, sure. I have no apologies to make for that. But it could also help demonstrate to writers and other people struggling to survive in a mass-market world that the Open Source idea is only fractionally about software. It's about individualism, free expression, and a culture open to us all.
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Repost of the Katz article...Since every time JohnKatz posts an article, people flame him - most without ever reading what he wrote in the first place. This is a reflect reaction to Katz that I suggest we fight with this new method. In a new trend, I suggest we repost any Katz article in the discussion forum of any such article. That way, we can reflect upon it in such a way that if Katz didn't post it, we can consider it before flaming.
from the can-open-marketing-online-save-writers? dept.
I'm not much of a salesman, in comfort or skill, but I'm willing to hype my books, especially given the realities of 21st Century publishing, when you do it yourself or nobody does it. Some people think if you get a book published, you're a big deal and a rich one. If you're Grisham or King, that's true. The reality: Few books sell well, and even fewer (mine, for example) make money. Can content like books be successfully "open-marketed" on the Net? I say yes.In early March my eleventh book A Dog Year; Twelve Months, Four Dogs and Me was published by Random House/Villard. For several months I've been working on a bottom-up, Net-based marketing program that permits me to push my own book in my own way, rather than rely on big publishing or big media. That led me to the banner ad on this site a lot of you have seen and e-mailed me about. So why am I buying a banner ad, on Slashdot of all places, to tout my new book about a year with four dogs? It's a chance for me to tick off the yowling hordes, which is always fun. Some will shriek that a dog saga has little to do with open source, technology or selling things on the Net. But it does, and I'm happy -- eager, even -- to explain why.
I do most of my hyping for A Dog Year in the expected places -- in media interviews and on various dog-related sites, mailing lists and forums.
My reason for advertising here, too, is that I believe the Net offers the best place for individual entrepreneurs of all kinds -- writers, game creators, artists, musicians, software designers -- to skirt conventional costs, limitations and marketing practices and find their own audiences. To me, that's a big part of the "open" in open source. Younger people raised on the Net don't pay nearly as much attention to mainstream media as their elders, so we have to reach them where they are. The good news is that we can.
In fact, Net communications themselves have become increasingly segmented and targeted. Much has become subterranean, centered on mailing lists, IM and other limited-entry venues. In the weeks before my book's publication, I concentrated on these grass-roots venues, contacting websites, subscribing to mailing lists, e-mailing excerpts of my book to people who were interested. People on special interests lists and chat rooms don't mind being pitched on subjects they're interested in. They don't consider it spam. What they hate is being bombarded with messages for things they don't care about, which is what traditional media does. Besides which, I can't afford to take an ad out in Time magazine or on the ABC Evening News.
Elsewhere, individual entrepreneurs and creators find it more and more difficult to survive. The megacorporations who've taken over much of culture and media are primarily interested in best-selling mega-products -- Britney Spears, John Grisham -- not idiosyncratic ones like mine. They have a point, too. My last book found its own audience, or rather its audience found it. It did all right, but didn't sell much beyond it's core audience. To successfully market a book like Running To The Mountain or A Dog Year (at least in the conventional way) could cost more money than my publisher expects to earn. And interesting, I believe the Running To The Mountain excerpt that ran on Slashdot sold more books than a subsequent appearance on the Oprah Winfrey show.
The Net, at least in theory, can bypass that stalemate and create radical new opportunities for artists of all kinds. So I don't mind paying for my own ad. I think it has worked.
Individuals are under attack all across our culture, from the likes of Microsoft and Wal-Mart and Sony to publishing conglomerates. The Net can be a way out for people like me (us), whether we're telling the story of our dogs or coming up with new software. What's why I bought a banner on Slashdot. If it works, it could sell some books, sure. I have no apologies to make for that. But it could also help demonstrate to writers and other people struggling to survive in a mass-market world that the Open Source idea is only fractionally about software. It's about individualism, free expression, and a culture open to us all.