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Are CBS journalists fascists now too? The problem with groups that condone violence against anyone, even people limited to some smaller group or part of the population, is that eventually the definition of that group will change and the lines will blur.

We all know porn is big business in this country, and oddly, those who whine the loudest about porn's influence on society are the largest consumers of porn.

As far back as 2009, studies showed people in the Midwest and deep South, heavy bible-belt country, had larger amounts of porn consumption than other parts of the country. A more recent survey showed the same thing but also, in those places where same-sex marriage was outlawed, gay porn consumption was higher than other places, including where same-sex marriage is legal.

This bill will make it very interesting for those folks to explain why they're getting ads for sexual enhancers, condoms, lube and toys.

Lawyers don't even believe in representing themselves, so when you say plenty just what is that percentage ?

Here's an example of what happens when you don't know what you are doing involving the law

http://wtvr.com/2016/06/06/man...

No phone records were produced to clear his name. It was an old FBI report, and (from the FBI's POV) his alibi had been established while investigating the case in 1957. At that time the FBI had either requested and examined the phone records and verified the collect call. While conducting a preliminary investigation an FBI agent may have simply called the phone company and requested the information, noting it in the report. They would not have requested a paper record of the call unless it established his guilt and they needed to introduce it as evidence. For some reason the FBI walked away and let the prosecutor nail him to the wall.

So no, this does not suggest phone records were retained. The call (without the name) would have shown up on his parents' paper phone bill if they had managed to keep it.

[cite] And he was not permitted to present police and FBI reports from the 1957 kidnapping investigation that indicated he was questioned and cleared from the list of suspects because he had an alibi.

The reports indicated that McCullough spoke with military recruiters in Rockford, about 40 miles away, about the time Maria was taken from the street corner in Sycamore. They also seemed to verify his story that he made a collect call home, asking for a ride. Phone records at the time, long since lost, indicated that a collect call was placed from a pay phone in Rockford to the Tessier family home in Sycamore at 6:57 p.m. by someone giving his name as âoeJohn Tassier.â The call lasted two minutes.

Illinois law does not allow police reports and other documents as a substitute for witness testimony at trials. But in this case, almost all of the FBI agents and police investigators had died, and McCullough's defense sought to introduce the reports as "ancient documents" or public records more than 20 years old. Hallock, the trial judge, rejected that argument.

âoeThe judge's decisions to prohibit Jack McCullough from introducing FBI records prepared at the time of the offense, despite their status as ancient documents and public records and their probative value in establishing Mr. McCullough's alibi, and to prohibit Mr. McCullough from presenting testimony showing another man committed the offense, amounted to gross abuses of discretion denying Mr. McCullough his fundamental right to present a defense,â the appeal stated.

By blocking the defense while allowing prosecutors to introduce âoeirrelevant, but highly prejudicial evidence,â the judge violated McCullough's right to a fair trial, the appeal stated, before delivering a final salvo: âoeNo rational trier of fact would have found the defendant guilty.â

With the exception of a few horrendous examples of gay people fearing for their lives, I'm not aware of danger of PHYSICAL attack as a result of this fiasco.

The AM hack exposed the personal information of 32 million subscribers, about 3.2 million of who are women. It is a statistical certainty that at least thousands of these people have been subject to abuse, and as much so that some of them will experience more abuse because of the hack. Take these statistics and multiply them by 3.2 million.

Furthermore, Wired reports that a PI firm has created a site which permits anyone to search the AM data easily, without having to know how leaked data dumps are usually shared.

And if you were in the slightest hearing me as suggesting that would be good thing, then I've got it badly wrong.

I appreciate your straightforwardness, and lack of hostility. Looking back in the thread I see something like "AM hack response == puritan lynch mob" >> "It's OK for us to challenge people [like this]." Though not written explicitly, the [like this] seemed like a clear implication, which is why I did hear it as a suggestion the hack/doxxing is acceptable.

But suppose this hack had been of the identities of people watching child pornography?

Having reviewed the AM user statistics linked above, it's pretty clear the vast majority of users were never able to realize an affair, or even to communicate with a potential partner. 90% of the users are men, suggesting 81% are heterosexual men and 9% are heterosexual women (~10% of people are gay). That gives a 9:1 ratio. In light of that, the analogy ought to be "people who registered potential intent to consider watching child pornography." Creating an Ashley Madison account is apparently tantamount only to admitting the potential intent to consider an affair, which (most likely) never occurred.

Nevertheless, assuming the direct analogy is valid, the result of such a leak would be to make criminal convictions for those people extremely difficult to obtain. The mob cannot deliver justice - no matter the crime - because mob justice is arbitrary and irrevocably severe. Thus, I say that the extralegal doxxing of child porn watchers is also likely to result in a worse overall outcome than allowing the legal system to proceed by its usual means.

And yet, it is arguable, that a WATCHER of child porn is less destructive to real children - especially if that porn is CGI generated - than an adulterer who destroys a family.

Maybe so (if and only if your 'especially' become 'only'), but then again you've intentionally chosen to compare the least and most extreme cases of child porn and adultery, respectively.

The fact is, a large plurality of men and women do commit adultery. A large plurality of marriages also end in divorce, which is almost always quite traumatic for children. Sexual frustrations are often cited as contributing to both adultery and divorce. A more sexually flexible society would probably exhibit greater family stability when compared to our rigid one.

Overt racism will probably get you booted out of most circles...to dismiss my treatment of an adulterer as the behaviour of a lynch mob but condone similar treatment for an overt racist shows a failure to think.

You now say you're treatment of an adulterer is considerably more mild than the remedy forced upon us by the AM hackers, in which case your point is somewhat valid. I say 'somewhat' because the scourge of racism, which is mathematically guaranteed to result in inferior group performance*, has been enorm

Last week there was an accident in Virginia where a minivan ran off the freeway. Several firetrucks attended the scene, and camped out in the lane next to where the car ran off the road. Some idiot managed to run himself into the back of one of the firetrucks at speed and kill himself. I still can't understand how you can't see the lights of a firetruck in the middle of the lane you are driving in, and not think to slow down or change lanes. And with this accident occurring on a freeway, its not as if the previous accident scene was hidden around a bend.

For bonus points, all 6 people in the minivan were wearing seat belts, and all survived with non-life threatening injuries. The driver of the car that ran into the firetruck was not wearing a seatbelt - and died. (of course a seatbelt won't help you if you run into a fixed object at high speed)

Police ID driver killed after crashing into Henrico fire truck

A good decade ago now, but one night I was driving home at like midnight, in the middle lane of 3 on the highway, slowly gaining on a guy in the slow (right) lane as we were going up a slight incline, when I saw him hit his brakes just at the top of the hill... (there were no other cars on the road for at least a mile or two ahead, I'd been gaining on him for at least 2mi). I took my foot off the gas instantly, wondering what he hit his brakes for - and then saw the deer prancing around in the middle of the road and hit my brakes as well...

... meanwhile a guy was coming up behind me (doing well over the speed limit). Now, one might think if you see the two people ahead of you, in two different lanes, hitting their brakes, you *might* consider slowing down, right? Nope, he pulled into the left (fast) lane while *accelerating* behind me to pass... nailed that deer doing at least 70mph (in a 55 zone), the poor thing flew a good 15' into the air and *over* the divider in the middle of the highway. Amazingly they were ok, seat belts on and air bags, but the car was obviously trashed. Some people just make really poor decisions.

simply were not aware of imminent danger like a big fuckoff lump of iron in front of them... BAM! 70+mph right up some poor bastard's arse.

Last week there was an accident in Virginia where a minivan ran off the freeway. Several firetrucks attended the scene, and camped out in the lane next to where the car ran off the road. Some idiot managed to run himself into the back of one of the firetrucks at speed and kill himself. I still can't understand how you can't see the lights of a firetruck in the middle of the lane you are driving in, and not think to slow down or change lanes. And with this accident occurring on a freeway, its not as if the previous accident scene was hidden around a bend.

For bonus points, all 6 people in the minivan were wearing seat belts, and all survived with non-life threatening injuries. The driver of the car that ran into the firetruck was not wearing a seatbelt - and died. (of course a seatbelt won't help you if you run into a fixed object at high speed)

Police ID driver killed after crashing into Henrico fire truck

Thank you for the perspective.

Here's what I'm seeing from the outside:

• His district is 75% white, and less than 4% Hispanic. So his constituents know Hispanics mostly in the abstract
• The only concrete issue I'm seeing him hit on in #tcot #va07 tags is "amnesty".
• Two weeks ago he's polled as up by 34 points in his primary
• A week later (June 6th), on local TV he announces he's willing to work with Obama on "the border security bill".
• A couple of days later, his opponent is campaigning on this statement like it is "support for amnesty". This appears to be his only issue.
• Last night he lost by 10 points - a 40 point swing. Even for an internal poll, that's a suspiciously large swing.

I'm no detective, but the footprints look pretty darn clear to me.

In the USA, pretty much anyone can buy or sell a gun with little or no safety or sanity check, particularly at gun shows; kids clearly have easy access to them, as schools find it necessary to check for them on entry.

But you can't buy your kid a Kinder Egg, and now you can't even play making your hand into a gun.

You people over there need to make some serious changes to your laws before you become the laughing-stock of the westernised world.

Hey, there are things they could have done besides bum-rushing the guy and throwing him in a mental ward. You know, like talk to the guy.

That's what they did. Apparently they didn't like his answers:
http://wtvr.com/2012/08/28/brandon-raub-youtubeinterview/

"Raub said he talked with two FBI agents from inside his door for about 10 to 15 minutes."

As for "bum-rushing", that was after he started resisted arrest:

"At this point, Raub, still in nothing but a pair of shorts, said he begged the agents to let him go back inside and get some flip-flops and a shirt.

When they refused, and at one point, he said he decided to make things more difficult for the officers since they wouldn't let him get clothes from the house.

"I realized that they weren't going to read me my rights and they weren't arresting me, so I basically just decided just to make it more difficult for them take me. I dropped my body weight -- and I don't think one of the Chesterfield policeman liked it very much, so he tackled me into the fence." "

OK, so judging purely on that story that was an overreaction, but it was hardly the knock-on-the-door bum-rush that you make it out to be.

do not consult a psychiatrist/psychologist

Now this is getting stupid. Don't you think a psychiatric evaluation would include talking to a psychiatrist?

That wasn't the primary goal. Suppression of publicly voiced anti-government opinion was the priority here based on the government's actions.

Except for all the countless looney-tunes sites parroting the same garbage, minus the ex-Marine talking about severed heads and revolutions. Be honest and stop with the one-sided nonsense.

I don't know if this guy was ever a real threat to anyone or not, but he certainly isn't some super-patriot or free speech hero. He's mentally ill, and really does need help (even if you can't force it). The guy seriously believes that George W. Bush is living in a secret castle in Colorado where he rapes and sacrifices children. He also believes that Bush not only planned 9-11, but serves a world shadow government who also seem to spend most of their time raping and sacrificing children (when they're not planning world domination, I guess).

Whatever you think of the free speech issues involved, please don't celebrate this dude. He's very sick and needs help.

Here is a link to what is supposed to be on his FaceBook page:

http://wtvr.com/2012/08/21/full-text-brandon-raubs-proclamation-take-our-republic-back/

I don't see any references to Bush or children and being a former Marine myself, I agree with what he says. If he was arrested for this, it is just wrong and they need to put me away too.

Peacefully? In your dreams. Tea baggers are terrorists because they use scare tactics to get their way. Take health care town hall meetings of 2008. Retired tea baggers with drugged, crazy eyes yelling "Government hands off of my Medicare" and lunging at congressmen and opponents with their fists. Using these imbecile but scary tactics they managed to force many seniors to oppose health care reform even though most of those seniors already use government-provided Medicare.

It wasn't the Tea Party people that bit off someone's finger at a town hall. How about the SEIU beating up a black conservative in St Louis at a town hall meeting?

Do you have any actual examples of these "retired tea baggers with drugged, crazy eyes" commiting violence or are you just regurgitating rhetoric the way you happen to remember it?

Remember Alan Grayson talking about how the GOP plan is for everyone to die quickly? Or shots being fired at Eric Cantor's office?

Speaking of Medicare, the Democrats cut it by a half trillion dollars to fund ObamaCare, but when the Republicans came out with a reform package this summer, what did the Democrats do? ran an ad about how Republicans want to literally push grandma over a cliff."

So yeah, it's those Republicans pushing their scare tactics on their constituents, commiting acts of terror. Actual violence committed by Democrats? eh, that's not terror under the same definition because, well, they're on your side.

Want another one? Debt ceiling ÃoecrisisÃ, entirely manufactured by tea bagger faction. This was non-issue for decades, extended automatically. This year, tea baggers yelled hysterically for months about Ãoecountry going bankruptÃ, Ãoedollar becoming worthlessà and similar utter nonsense to scare many people into opposing raising the limit, which was tea bagger goal for ideological reasons.

Wasn't it Obama that said having to raise the debt ceiling was a "leadership failure" when he voted against it in 2006? Do you hold him to the same standards as you do Republicans, or is this another one of those my team good, your team bad things?

And the crisis WAS manufactured... by Obama. The US has enough revenue that it won't default on it's debts if the limit wasn't raised. We have enough revenue to fund all of the most critical portions of the federal government too. It was a scare tactic to get people to panic so Obama wouldn't have to think about fulfilling his campaign promise to actually cut back the waste in the federal government.

Thus, tea baggers use scare tactics to reach their political goals. That, by definition, means they are terrorists.

Nice to know that everyone that you don't agree with politically is a terrorist while you ignore the actual violence and threats perpetrated by your team. You do realize that you just repeated GWB's "you're either with us or against us" rhetoric, right?

I am in Northern Virginia. There is no power outage or severe weather here.

I'm gonna believe the multiple news stories that say you're wrong.

Sorry, but my numbers are correct. They came direct from the Virginia Department of Health. It's not up anymore because ALL restaurants are now supposed to be smoke-free, but feel free to look for archives if you want to dispute my numbers with something other than opining that "a bunch of made up sounding BS".

As far as the closing restaurants, that's all stuff that I have observed, so there's no way to dispute it, it's just fact. You can go talk to the (former) owners of Mile Post 5 and Caddy's, if you don't believe me. You can also ask the owners of the other restaurants that are defying the ban.

If you're going to post a study to back up your own opinions, you might want to find one that actually ... backs up your opinions. The one you posted says that "We found no significant change in the overall number of patrons before and after the ban," contrary to your claim that occupancy increased.