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SSHv2 terminal available?
Just thought I'd ask here and see if anyone knew if there's an SSHv2 terminal availabe for the Palms/Treos? The only SSH terminal I'm aware of for the Palm is Top Gun SSH, which is SSHv1 only.
That being said, the Treo 600 looks like the best communicator coming in the near future. The only real disappointments are with the low-res screen, lack of built-in BT (although Handspring is committed to getting full BT (data and handset) support via the SDIO slot) and no AMPS fallback (inconvenient if you're stuck out in the booneys w/o digital coverage).
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Re:Here
Here's another link for the Top Gun SSH: http://www.freewarepalm.com/communication/topguns
s h.shtml But it seems that the down load link there is dead as well
The link for the binary packages in the link I originally posted works - I tested it first.
(Direct download link) TGssh-13.zip -
Here
Oh lemme see - three seconds of googling results in this:
http://www.ai/~iang/TGssh/
As you obviously haven't heard of Google, you should check it out. -
Re:portability
Check out Embedded Linux/Microcontoller project I've never tried it personally, but looks promissing. Don't know about support for the older platforms you're talking about though. Gives you somewhere to start though.
Some very usefull tools that I've used on newer Palm devices with net connectivity:
Top Gun SSH - Works pretty good for remote shell access.
PalmVNC - Decent VNC implementation for the Palm.
Not *nix on the Palm, but gives you good access to remote systems. -
Re:So what...
Well, my Tungsten C runs 802.11b with pop and smtp and http and vnc (therefore proper wireless access); I haven't tried SSH on it yet.
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Top Gun SSH
Ah, but does the book talk about my favorite SSH client, Top Gun ssh for PalmOS? It lets me configure a UNIX server from a palm-enabled cell phone while lying on the beach!
Admittedly using vi with Graffiti is a bit of a challenge... -
SpringPort & VisorI've got a Xircom SpringPort Wireless Ethernet module (SWE1100) and a Handspring Visor Platinum talking to a Cisco Aironet 340 access point with 128-bit WEP.
Network hotsync is slow, but adequate. PalmVNC and Top Gun ssh both work, but they're not usable enough to be more than curiosities on that tiny screen. The only browser I've found that works at all is the one that comes with AvantGo's mobile Internet service. I've never managed to get a static IP address to work, but that's a minor problem; the DHCP client works fine. More serious: the MultiMail email client built into the 802.11b module won't talk to a recent UW IMAP server; it doesn't grok the server's CAPABILITY response.
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He's being "nice", but...
..but the reality is that he's selectivly enforcing his invalid trademark (check the trademark db if you don't believe me). And he's doing this enforcement against the product that's **gasp** putting him out of business. If he really wanted to protect the (tm), he would need to go after:
O SSH
TTSSH
NiftySSH
MacSSH
Java-SSH
TGssh
sshCE
An OpenVSM project called just SSH
SSH-OS2
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and, well, you get the point. He's just going after OpenSSH because they're beating him in the market. And not only does he have no legal leg to stand on, but he's being a real slime by only going after the successfull one. Theo would be right to tell hime where to stick his lawyers. -
What's your priority: phone or mobile internet...?
I have a Sprint PCS Touchpoint 120 and it's pretty nifty. It handles the essential phone basics very well - a reasonable battery life and good coverage around town and the city (town = Boulder, CO, city = Denver). The signal easily gets lost if I go up into the mountains, but that's to be expected. I am a little wary of their billing / web ordering process though - when I signed up they accidentally created two accounts in my name and billed me an extra $50 that I didn't owe before they eventually got it sorted out. Finally, their web site is also often overloaded if you want to check or pay your account online.
The WAP features were quite a fun toy for the first week or so, but you can't really do any serious stuff with 6 lines of text. I find myself using it occasionally to check my email and get movie times when I'm outside (one of the dangers of being in Boulder, I suppose). Look on Yahoo! for a WAP directory. Note that sending mail is possible but requires much patience, and there is no direct POP3/SMTP support (web email like Yahoo! works just fine). It has a secure WAP implementation of some sort, so you can happily buy stuff online from anywhere. The phone also has some basic PIM features, but I largely ignore them as I also have a Palm. I think I could plug my Palm into this phone and get online that way, but I've not yet had the urge to try.
In short: I love this phone. As long as you don't want the world, you should be fine with whatever Sprint WAP-enabled phone takes your fancy. You mention the NP1000 - I had a look at one in the store and I didn't like it. Sure, it has a larger screen - but it looked suspiciously fragile, and it was only single band (ie: no analog roaming).
I did find some reviews on Epinions, so go have a read. There was a mobile phone section up on the Deja.com buying forums, but they're gone now that Deja has reverted to being a usenet feed (yay!).
If you primarily need a new mobile phone - get one and enjoy WAP as a toy. If you need full web access (or if the phrase: "mobile ssh or telnet client" starts you drooling), get a VisorPhone (or wireless Palm if you don't mind not being able to make voice calls) - but the monthly subscription fee might be astronomical compared to the 1500-minute per month holiday offers I've seen Sprint pushing recently.
- Chris.