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Yea and if you just search for Xfree you get Xfree.org. How sneaky of microsoft.

Do a test with ATI Radeon 9200 and XFree 4.4 (You can use a farily new distro with back patches for XFree 4.3). The XFree 4.4 drivers for ATI Radeon 9200 is not made by ATI. They are native OpenSource XFree drivers made with documentation provided by ATI. Most if not all Radeons up to 9200 has good native support with full 3d accelration. The tv-out is not as good as it should, but it's been worked on.

"Gatos - Enhanced XFree86 drivers for ATI videocards, with emphasis on TV-input and Output"

Radeon XFree4.3 manual page

atitvout 0.4 - This program is mostly a student hack, but it shows how the Radeon techicaly works regarding tv-out.

X is small and fast(at least XFree86 is). When you look at how much virtual memory it has mapped in. (using 'ps' for example). You also are seeing the amount of memory mapped in for the video frame buffer. Have a 32Mb video card? Well at *least* 32Mb of your virtual address space isn't mapping into system ram, it's mapped into video ram.

Also, with any application, the code space doesn't take system RAM in the same sense as data space does. Normally you map in pages of memory that point straight to the I/O device the executable exists on. (this is called mmap). You only have a few pages of system memory actually in-use, for the areas of the program that are currently executing or have executed recently. It's pretty easy to draw an analogy to this and swap memory, except this is a lot simpler to implement in a kernel.

I've build mini systems where XFree86 and Linux and a handful of fun apps ran in 4Mb of RAM. For a diskless system, you would want to use something like XIP (eXecute-In-Place). that way you don't have to go crazy loading in applications into system RAM or have funny mmap things that try to cache memory. (if it's all in RAM disk why are you caching RAM with more RAM? :)

Also check out the AgendaVR3 pda. I own one of these gizmos. The company is basically out of business, but their PDAs definently ran XFree86 and a ton of apps with only 8Mb of flash and 8Mb of RAM.

Of course. If XFree86 is still too big for you, there is always The MGR Window System. This fun program is designed to basically allow you to run multiple shells on the same screen in a graphical way, with each one having it's own font size if you want. It looks like monochrome X11, but it's a lot smaller. It also works over both telnet and ssh quite transparently. (all the GUI stuff is encoded in vt100-like escape codes). You can even do real graphics with it, look at this big screen shot if you don't believe me. Also it's open source, which is good because it probably hasn't used on linux after kernel version 1.2, have fun tinking with it. :)

secure on hardware X, and software Y

Isn't X software though?

(cue rim-shot)

The original

The fork

Thats just the two versions of XFree86, I havn't even bothered to include any commercial X servers (E.g. Metro, Sun etc.)

Personally, I'm going to wait before there's something fundamentally wrong with Gentoo before I switch.

I lean towards agreement with this statement. It's not as if Gentoo does not have a Social Contract and is closed in any way. Sure, a few private mail lists may exist, as they do in other projects, and there may be business motives behind key Gentoo developers. But at the end of the day the project is GPL, top to bottom, (hence it is forkable) and it will not go in a direction that disatisfies the non-core developers and user community, otherwise it will lose those two precious commodities and cease to exist.

And at the end of the day, people have to put bread on the table. If they find a way to do that through a GPL project, good luck to them. I say good luck to both Gentoo and Zynot, and given my excellent experiences in using Gentoo (never will I go back to something rpm based) I'll be using the best one of the two for the forseeable future.

Who knows, maybe the fork will be good and any co-operation - intentional or through GPL'd code swapping - will probably benefit both distros. (Yes, projects can co-operate in when the leads hate each other, that's the GPL for you.)

Does this answer that question?

dynamically updated ChangeLog for Xfree.

Bad Idea, man. Don't EVER ask a question like that on /., or you'll get fried. 'cuz everybody here knows that "Flash sux(TM)" because Flashsites [insert random website flaw here].
And, by the way, why in hell don't you use HTML 1.1 compliant design, it's all you need. Check out Kornshell and XFree for prime examples of the great webdesign feats achieved in HTML.

To answer your question: I'd predesign templates in Flash 5 and then use ming to modify them. Ming even offers the ability to dynamically insert ActionScript into generated Flash, so it actually is quite powerfull.

Given that xfree's website doesn't list that sis chipset as supported, I'd guess not. Unless somebody can enlighten me otherwise.

Odd... at Xfree.org the release notes say the Matrox G450 card is supported... but then in the man section there's no mention of the G450... am I missing something here?

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Odd... at Xfree.org the release notes say the Matrox G450 card is supported... but then in the man section there's no mention of the G450... am I missing something here?

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hmm i always wonder why there is need for distrospecific packages on this. just get the original install files from their website (www.xfree.org) and you're set. the installation is really easy, you just need to answer few questions, like do you want to backup some old files and so on.

Dual head support in X has been around for a while. Read about Xinerama.

-bp

What about the next pre-release xfree org would release? It should be released before the end of this year... that's in 4 days.
Anyone know if they're gonna make it?

see xfree